Originally Posted by Magpie:
Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Amazingly ignorant and ridiculous reply by Mr. Bill.
DF why do you think Bill’s reply was ignorant and ridiculous?
He has every right to call you out. Just because you and a group of old timey scientists want to keep hanging on to a theory long since proven to be wrong on most fronts doesn’t mean science has to stop and wait on you to catch up. Face modern facts Darwin evolution is a worn out argument based on fiction. There are no fossils that prove the theory. Get over it.
Did you read Bill's comment? Here it is, again, for your edification.
You declare, "Evolution is a fact!" By this, of course, you mean Darwinian Evolution, i.e., macro evolution -- not adaptation, i.e., micro evolution.
And, when questioned about the validity of this statement -- what do we get? "Because it is what I believe!! And, it is what Charley Darwin wrote over 150 years ago. So, it must be true!"
Duh! Even Darwin stated that if scientist cannot find the "Missing Link" fossil -- Darwinian Evolution was breathing its last, rasping breath. RIP Darwinian Evoltuion!
So, Deep, my Friend -- no matter how much you huff and puff, no matter how many signs your leader, Dawkins, puts on the side of buses -- Darwinian Evolution is dead, Or as we uneducated Southerners, whom you love to demean, would say, "Old Charley's theory is ded -- D E D -- ded! So, we'uns might as well bury it with that old ded dawg out yonder!"
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill is deliberately ignorant, or dishonest, choose one, on the issue of evolution. All evolution is "micro" evolution. Dogs don't give birth to cats.
Then he says I'm dogmatic about evolution. I am not. If a better theory comes along to explain biodiversity, I'm all ears. So far, none has, and evolution has been demonstrated and proven countless times. Bill can only understand dogma. It's not a competition of dogmas, it's reason and science against superstition.
Creationists use the "missing link" red herring to a toxic level. Every time an intermediate form is demonstrated, it creates two more "missing links". This level of thinking and exposure to science was outdated over 100 years ago. It's silly, and puerile.
Now, Bill is almost close to a significant point when he says that Darwin is dead. He really is. Gone for years. And Darwin knew nothing about genetics, DNA, random mutations thereof, but his theory of Natural Selection was spot-on. He surmised, correctly, that for whatever reason, species experienced random changes, and that some of them were beneficial, most of them were not. It was the beginning of an extraordinary scientific leap in knowledge, one that benefits the world immeasurably every day in the fields of medicine, agriculture, and ranching, to name but a few. Someone had to notice the way things are, and that person was Darwin. Darwin was right.
Now, my dear Maggie, we both know Bill is beyond help. He is terminally afflicted with religious poisoning. Are you so afflicted? Are you so bound up in your dogmatic, religious, superstitious explanation of life that you cannot see the natural truth? I say this as a person who has an understanding of that point of view, and has rejected it in the light of knowledge and reason.
Bill is lost. Are you? The truth of evolution will persevere because of its merits, and it does not need Bill's nor your permission. The dogma of Creationism will eventually fail, as surely as Zeus and Mithra no longer hold sway, and for the same reason.
Now, let's discuss your post. You accuse evolutionary biologists of being "old timey" scientists? First, there is nothing more "old timey" than a religious explanation for nature. Second, evolution is a demonstrable fact, in the fossil records and in the genetic record. Please, please expose yourself to the current state of the art of science before you embarrass yourself further. If you honestly want some exposure to science, PM me. I can direct you to information that you will find interesting, if challenging.
My dear Maggie, the Bible does not explain the world. It is a story book written by ancient Jews and Greeks who know nothing about Nature. It was influenced by even more ancient cultures such as the Babylonians and Egyptians, and they knew squat about nature. The Bible is demonstrably wrong in great consistency.
Bill has gone over the edge in his religious lunacy. Shall you, as well? Do you have the courage to accept my challenge and review some basic reason and science?
Christianity is essentially flawed. It's basic premise is flawed. PM me and ask me what I mean.
Hoping to hear from you in earnest academic fashion,