R.I.P. Amerika...

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I thought it was crazy when pelosi compared this to social security.


I thought it was a perfect comparison. The govenment decided we couldn't handle saving for retirement on our own, so they stole our money in the name of doing it for us. Now, they've decided we can't handle buying insurance on our own, so they will steal more money in the name of doing that for us. Actually, a pretty good accurate analogy.
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Originally posted by Fighting Illini:
And just like social security, medicare, and medicaid, etc. there will be massive budget shortfalls in this health care even with a headstart of collecting taxes for 4 years.


STOP IT!!!!
You are confussing the "Libs" with your "numbers crunching"...
If THEY are distracted...THEY might fall off of the "Western" side ...of the "Square" Earth...
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Originally posted by CageTheElephant:
time to dismantle the "Statue of Liberty...it no longer applies.
The "Demoncratic" Party has hijacked your future.
Remember that "come election time".


I'm not real happy about this, but I don't feel so gloom and doom.

In a way I was morbidly hoping it would pass...Now we'll see who is really dedicated to the fight for liberty and self government.

Tenth Amendment Center

Campaign For Liberty
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Now we'll see who is really dedicated to the fight for liberty and self government.


Very true. The simple solution is to elect a majority that can overturn this without a presidential signature. That can happen in 2010 if people are serious about electing real small-government candidates.
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The simple solution is to elect a majority that can overturn this without a presidential signature. That can happen in 2010 if people are serious about electing real small-government candidates.

DREAM ON! You are cushy on this right wing forum and in Alabama. Fortunately, the rest of the country has different ideas. Last count, the majority if lost will only lose by a few seats. That is if plan B of Rush Limbaugh doesn't go into effect and he starts a civil war. I want to see Rush and Beck go up against a couple of Crips
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DREAM ON! You are cushy on this right wing forum and in Alabama. Fortunately, the rest of the country has different ideas. Last count, the majority if lost will only lose by a few seats. That is if plan B of Rush Limbaugh doesn't go into effect and he starts a civil war. I want to see Rush and Beck go up against a couple of Crips


It might not happen, probably won't. It would if all the people who claim to have discovered small government actually vote that way. With nearly 40 states considering nullification, it's a good start.
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Originally posted by dolemitejb:
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Now we'll see who is really dedicated to the fight for liberty and self government.


Very true. The simple solution is to elect a majority that can overturn this without a presidential signature. That can happen in 2010 if people are serious about electing real small-government candidates.


Well, yeah...that too...But I really had in mind THIS
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Originally posted by rocky:
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First, the dems will get re-elected.
Second, if the dems do get voted out, the republicans do little to change the bill, or don't get rid of it at all.

SANE, but treason talk for teabaggers. Did you not snort enough Rush today?


Rocky, You seem to have a problem with identification friend or foe.
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Originally posted by Jugflier:
I'm willing to lay down two bets right now.
First, the dems will get re-elected.
Second, if the dems do get voted out, the republicans do little to change the bill, or don't get rid of it at all.

Who's takin?


You may very well be right...that's why we need to get more involved with our state governments. The state needs to reclaim their power unconstitutionally usurped from the federal government.

This so-called health care reform is no where near the first over reach of the federal government...but hopefully it'll be what wakes the sheeple up.
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Originally posted by Jugflier:
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Originally posted by rocky:
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First, the dems will get re-elected.
Second, if the dems do get voted out, the republicans do little to change the bill, or don't get rid of it at all.

SANE, but treason talk for teabaggers. Did you not snort enough Rush today?


Rocky, You seem to have a problem with identification friend or foe.


Now HERE'S a brave boy! Anyone who admits to being in bed with lil wang has to be brave.....or maybe stupid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKb78kJhaMw
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Anyone who admits to being in bed

Perk,
I enjoy good stimulating conversation and have great respect with those who can articulate ideas with good common sense, even if those ideas I do not agree with.
I regret to say that is impossible with you. People like you on the right are just as much responsible for what is wrong with this country as those you hate on the left.
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Originally posted by rocky:
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The simple solution is to elect a majority that can overturn this without a presidential signature. That can happen in 2010 if people are serious about electing real small-government candidates.

DREAM ON! You are cushy on this right wing forum and in Alabama. Fortunately, the rest of the country has different ideas. Last count, the majority if lost will only lose by a few seats. That is if plan B of Rush Limbaugh doesn't go into effect and he starts a civil war. I want to see Rush and Beck go up against a couple of Crips


Crips, like most criminals, are lazy and poor shots. I've reviewed their firefights and they expend an extreme amount of ammo for every target they hit. Lazy, dumb and violent is a poor combination against disciplined fire.
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Originally posted by rocky:
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With nearly 40 states considering nullification, it's a good start.

Is this the headline of Fox News? Where are you teathugs getting this?


That's the number of states considering lawsuits. Its been on several news sites -- pay attention.

It only takes 33 states to call a constitutional convention.
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Originally posted by Jugflier:
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Originally posted by rocky:
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First, the dems will get re-elected.
Second, if the dems do get voted out, the republicans do little to change the bill, or don't get rid of it at all.

SANE, but treason talk for teabaggers. Did you not snort enough Rush today?


Rocky, You seem to have a problem with identification friend or foe.


Drugs will do that to you.
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Originally posted by Jugflier:
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Anyone who admits to being in bed

Perk,
I enjoy good stimulating conversation and have great respect with those who can articulate ideas with good common sense, even if those ideas I do not agree with.
I regret to say that is impossible with you. People like you on the right are just as much responsible for what is wrong with this country as those you hate on the left.


I learned from you leftists between 2000 and now. Like the old Toyota commercial: You asked for it you got it, trashtalk.
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Originally posted by Punkin:
Take down the Statue of Liberty? I knew that sorry so-and-so Obama would ruin this country! There's some tea baggers over at my church and I think that I'm going to their next get together.


Make sure your bring your linens and your burning cross!
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Originally posted by True-Blue:
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Originally posted by Punkin:
Take down the Statue of Liberty? I knew that sorry so-and-so Obama would ruin this country! There's some tea baggers over at my church and I think that I'm going to their next get together.


Make sure your bring your linens and your burning cross!


So you are going to host a klan rally? What a racist you are!
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Originally posted by True-Blue:
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Originally posted by Punkin:
Take down the Statue of Liberty? I knew that sorry so-and-so Obama would ruin this country! There's some tea baggers over at my church and I think that I'm going to their next get together.


Make sure your bring your linens and your burning cross!


I believe the kluxers wear cotton. There's only about 10,000 of those bottom of the genetic barrel scum left. Blast if I'd wear my good irish Brooks Brothers linen in the woods.
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Originally posted by Jugflier:
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Originally posted by rocky:
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First, the dems will get re-elected.
Second, if the dems do get voted out, the republicans do little to change the bill, or don't get rid of it at all.

SANE, but treason talk for teabaggers. Did you not snort enough Rush today?


He doesn't have any friends, that's his problem.

Rocky, You seem to have a problem with identification friend or foe.
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Originally posted by dolemitejb:
Very true. The simple solution is to elect a majority that can overturn this without a presidential signature. That can happen in 2010 if people are serious about electing real small-government candidates.


It's worth pointing out that even if Republicans won every single Democratic Senate seat that's up this year and held on to every Republican seat, they'd still only have 59 Senators, which is far short of the 67 they'd need to override a presidential veto. So you can forget about Congress repealing this any time soon even in the event of a Republican landslide unless a significant number of Senate Democrats for some reason decide to reverse their position and vote to repeal the law they just passed.
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Originally posted by TheMeInTeam:
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Originally posted by dolemitejb:
Very true. The simple solution is to elect a majority that can overturn this without a presidential signature. That can happen in 2010 if people are serious about electing real small-government candidates.


It's worth pointing out that even if Republicans won every single Democratic Senate seat that's up this year and held on to every Republican seat, they'd still only have 59 Senators, which is far short of the 67 they'd need to override a presidential veto. So you can forget about Congress repealing this any time soon even in the event of a Republican landslide unless a significant number of Senate Democrats for some reason decide to reverse their position and vote to repeal the law they just passed.


Maybe there's a backdoor way such as the one the commies used to defacate on America with.
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Originally posted by Jugflier:
I'm willing to lay down two bets right now.
First, the dems will get re-elected.
Second, if the dems do get voted out, the republicans do little to change the bill, or don't get rid of it at all.

Who's takin?


This reminds me of a conversation I was having with a friend the other day. He was ranting and raving about the health care bill (Obamacare), but had to cut the conversation short. His 18 year old, pregnant daughter had an appointment at DHR to apply for Medicaid and he had to give here a ride.

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