Rogersville Prayer Vigil

why would it be a waste of time? your not join in any prayer.for you it is a waste of time,so while we are praying,go find something worth your time.

If you want to chant to Zeus go ahead. Why do you care about how people "waste" their time?

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Then why do you care if someone is an Atheist or a non-believer?

So says the critter with no job.

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Why would any part of Tenn. be included in the Shoals area?

The Shoals is a metropolitan area in northwestern Alabama, officially known as the Florence-Muscle Shoals Metropolitan Area, including the cities of Florence, Muscle Shoals, Tuscumbia, and Sheffield, and the counties of Lauderdale and Colbert. The population is around 143,000.

He has no idea. Bill hasn't lived in the area since his teens. I don't consider Rogersville the shoals area. 

Just because there was an article in the paper saying Rogersville was having a Prayer Vigil doesn't mean other little towns doesn't have them. I've known of two in the last year that didn't make the paper.

Rogersville is approx. 30 miles from Sheffield, I wouldn't call that nearby.

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I believe you will find that Rogersville is in Lauderdale County.

I'm very well aware where it is.  I said I don't consider Rogersville a part of the "shoals area." To me the shoals means MS, Sheffield, Tuscumbia and Florence. In other words what I and most think of as the "shoals". Same as saying Tri-Cities instead of Quad-cities. Some don't include Florence.

Hi Jennifer,

Just as a refresher in Shoals area history -- the term TriCities originally was Tuscumbia, Sheffield, AND Florence.  Florence was never excluded.  At that time, Muscle Shoals was merely an area which showed the remnants of a town which was started, but, never finished.  When I was a wee lad, walking through Muscle Shoals, we would find curbs, sidewalks, street signs -- but, no buildings, no other signs that a town or city had ever existed.   It was much like a sci-fi mystery -- where aliens had beamed up all the buildings and inhabitants -- and left just the bare lots where these once stood.  When I left home in 1955, Muscle Shoals was an area -- not a town or city.

And regarding my definition of what I call the Shoals Area -- it is the area covered by the TimesDaily.  This area does include all of North Alabama as well as Southern Tennessee.   As I said, this is my concept of the current Shoals Area.  And, my hometown of Sheffield is in the middle of this, part of the original TriCities.

Now that we have cleared that up -- How y'all doing?  I pray you are having a nice day.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Let me clear this up. Sounds like it's you that needs a history lesson. When I was growing up they called Sheffield, Tuscumbia, and Muscle Shoals the Tri-Cities, and the "Shoals". (Florence Times - Tri Cities Daily) Later, to include Florence, people began to use the term Quad-Cities, but some still don't use that term today. I don't.  Even I know why all the curbs, sidewalks etc from 6th Street to 2nd Street in Muscle Shoals, and for you to claim to be so knowledgeable about the area I'm shocked you don't know who was developing it and why. Tennessee is not the shoals area. Maybe if you'd actually had any interest in the area besides using it to call yourself "a southern gentleman" you'd know more about it. 

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You are as bad as my youngest daughter.  You post a definition, then argue with yourself about the meaning.

Since the incorporation of Muscle Shoals in 1923, this city has become known as the fastest growing city in northwest Alabama with a population of over 11924. ...

You are as bad as my youngest daughter.  You post a definition, then argue with yourself about the meaning.

I didn't post a definition. I said plainly that I don't consider Rogersville a part of the shoals area. It's due to it's never being called that. I don't see any argument "with myself".  I didn't say it wasn't in Lauderdale County, I didn't say I didn't consider it a part of Lauderdale county, I said I don't CONSIDER it a part of the shoals. Meaning that because that is my opinion I don't include it. Opinion. Not definition, opinion.

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That's right, Rogersville, Tenn. my dog Boo, Oklahoma or Bill Gray is not

part of the Shoals.

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According to Best's definition, Rogersville is part of the Shoals. 

Bill's right about the Tri-Cities being Florence, Sheffield & Tuscumbia. Why do you think Tri-Cities Memorial Gardens is in Florence?

Hi all,

Several of my Forum Friends have questioned my vision of the Shoals Area as my home town area, although I was born in Tuscumbia and grew up in Sheffield.   And, for several years, I did live on Central Avenue in Muscle Shoals.  At that time WLAY had  their studio on 2nd Street near Central Avenue.  For some of my more mature Friends from that area, you may recall a baseball field near that area.  Evidently, some years before there had been a semi-pro baseball team who called the field home.  When I was a  wee lad, our PeeWee football team, the Red Rockets, used the baseball field as our practice field.

It was on that field that I was knocked unconscious tackling my friend, Wayne Roland -- and even though I woke and walked home --  I have no memory of the rest of that day after tackling Wayne.  The doctor who came to our home that evening (yes, doctors actually made house calls in those days) said that I had a concussion.  Now you know my problem -- wacked on the head at an early age!

Anyway, in those days the Tri-Cities was Tuscumbia, Sheffield, and Florence.  Muscle Shoals, when I lived there was just an area which was adjacent to Sheffield and Tuscumbia -- and, I always considered it a part of Sheffield.

But, for my doubting Friends, Jennifer and Crusty, these excerpts will validate my reasoning for calling the whole area served by the TimesDaily as the Shoals Area:

TimesDaily From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TimesDaily

The TimesDaily is the daily newspaper for Florence, Alabama.  The TimesDaily covers a four-county region in Alabama  including Lauderdale, Colbert, Franklin, and Lawrence counties, as well as portions of southern Tennessee and  northeast Mississippi.  

MP History

http://mtpleasantrecord.com/press/?page_id=189

Mt. Pleasant is located in the south central portion of middle Tennessee and the southwestern portion of Maury County.  The city is 50 miles southwest of Nashville, Tennessee, 60 miles northwest of Huntsville, Alabama, and 55 miles north of the Alabama Tri-cities of Florence, Tuscumbia and Sheffield.

The History of the City of Muscle Shoals

http://www.cityofmuscleshoals.com/Default.asp?ID=11

The actual construction for nitrates began in the Muscle Shoals plant in February of 1918, and the first nitrates were  produced in November of 1918.  Since the war ended two weeks earlier on November 11, 1918, there was controversy  over what to do with the uncompleted Wilson Dam which was named after President Woodrow Wilson.  The key  question was whether to retain government ownership of the complex or to sell the dam to a private industry.

In 1921, automotive tycoon Henry Ford, accompanied by Thomas Edison, came to Muscle Shoals with a vision of  transforming this area into a metropolis.  “I will employ one million workers at Muscle Shoals and I will build a city 75  miles long at Muscle Shoals,” stated Mr. Ford.  The instant rumors of Ford’s plan hit the streets, real estate speculators began buying up land and parceling it out in 25 foot lots and putting in sidewalks and street lights.   People from all over the United States bought lots, sight unseen, during this time.  

Mr. Ford’s offer to buy Wilson Dam  for $5 million was turned down by Congress.  (The initial cost of the construction of the dam was $46.5 million.)   Instead, Congress, under the influence of Senator George Norris of Nebraska, later formed the Tennessee Valley  Authority to develop the dam as well as the entire river valley.  Senator Norris felt strongly that the public, rather than  private companies, should receive the benefits from the government’s investments in Muscle Shoals.  Although Ford’s  plans did not turn Muscle Shoals into a huge city, it did lay the foundation for the city of Muscle Shoals.

After the incorporation of Muscle Shoals, the town began to grow.  It was in 1933, with the formation of the Tennessee Valley Authority, that a comprehensive program of river and dam development began.  This contributed to the conservation and utilization of natural resources.  With this, the town began plans for an elementary school, water works, electric power system, and the installation of a telephone system.

During the first 20 years of incorporation, the town development was very slow having only 1,113 people in 1940.  By this time some of the residential property had been sold for taxes and some at the local market value.  This change to  local ownership opened the way for growth and development of the new city.

The 1950's decade, under a commission form of government and a recognized area Chamber of Commerce, became an industrial growth time for Muscle Shoals.  Reynolds Metals Company and Union Carbide Metals were quick to  convert to peace time production.  Diversification came with Diamond Shamrock Company, Ford Motor Company and  many others locating in Colbert County.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Let me clear this up. Sounds like it's you that needs a history lesson. When I was growing up they called Sheffield, Tuscumbia, and Muscle Shoals the Tri-Cities, and the "Shoals". (Florence Times - Tri Cities Daily) Later, to include Florence, people began to use the term Quad-Cities, but some still don't use that term today. I don't.  Even I know why all the curbs, sidewalks etc from 6th Street to 2nd Street in Muscle Shoals, and for you to claim to be so knowledgeable about the area I'm shocked you don't know who was developing it and why. Tennessee is not the shoals area. Maybe if you'd actually had any interest in the area besides using it to call yourself "a southern gentleman" you'd know more about it. 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

I said I don't consider Rogersville a part of the "shoals area." To me the shoals means MS, Sheffield, Tuscumbia and Florence. In other words what I and most think of as the "shoals". Same as saying Tri-Cities instead of Quad-cities. Some don't include Florence.

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Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Hi Jennifer,

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Jenn didn't say Florence was excluded. She said "some" didn't include Florence. If you would bother to read her post, she said to her the Shoals meant Muscle Shoals, Sheffield, Tuscumbia & Florence.

When most people in this area refer to the Tri-Cites or the Shoals, that's Muscle Shoals, Sheffield, Tuscumbia & Florence. No more, no less.

You said in 1955, Muscle Shoals was an area, not a town or city. Maybe you should read up on the the history of it. Your concept of the current Shoals Area is wrong.

"Located in the eastern portion of Colbert County, Muscle Shoals, incorporated in 1923,  is also known as “The Shoals,” along with the cities of Sheffield, Tuscumbia, and Florence."

What would you know about it anyway when you haven't lived here in over 50 years?

Just exactly what have "we" cleared up?

Bill doesn't bother to read and understand what people post. I don't know how it was when bill and the dinosaurs roamed the area, but I do know what people called it when I was growing up, and like I said many, still today, call it the Tri-Cities meaning MS, Sheffield, and Tuscumbia, and when they include Florence they say Quad-Cities. That includes me. The same reason that imo Rogersville is not a part of the shoals, and most certainly TN isn't either. So bill, what cities in Colbert County do you consider "the shoals"?

Bill, you idiot.  Where did I "doubt" anything you said?

Several of my Forum Friends have questioned my vision of the Shoals Area as my home town area, although I was born in Tuscumbia and grew up in Sheffield.   And, for several years, I did live on Central Avenue in Muscle Shoals.

Lot of moving around in, what was it, 17 years??

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Those people, including yourself, happen to be wrong.  The Tri-Cities refers to Tuscumbia, Sheffield, and Florence.  Muscle Shoals, as an incorporated city, is a late-comer to the game.  That some people in the area have confused themselves is par for the course in the area.  Bill's "history" for the most part is correct.  That he considers the Shoals to include the total distribution area of the Times Daily is incorrect.

Well crusty, as I said, people have their opinions. Bill's history about what? I know the history of MS. I also said there was a Muscle Shoals when I was growing up. My husband lived there and went to school at MSHS. Sorry if you have a problem with what people think. To ME the Tri-Cities will always be what I heard it described as and that was MS, Sheffield, and Tuscumbia.  Odd isn't it that a newspaper was called the Florence Times-Tri-Cities Daily? 

When I say The Shoals or the Tri-cites, I'm speaking of Muscle Shoals, Sheffield, Tuscumbia, & Florence.

Mayors of Tuscumbia, Muscle Shoals and Sheffield, Alabama At Tri-City Point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yreEtHsVF7A

Crusty, this explains why I always considered Tuscumbia, Muscle Shoals and Sheffield the Tri-Cities while growing up, and still do. So if I'm wrong so are a lot of people.

"Located in the eastern portion of Colbert County, Muscle Shoals, incorporated in 1923,  is also known as “The Shoals,” along with the cities of Sheffield, Tuscumbia, and Florence."

Florence has a theatre called Shoals Theatre. This was found on their web site.

"The roots of the Shoals Community Theatre can be traced back over a half century ago".

some news people call us tenn valley.what does it matter what we are,we all sop,eat,or whatever we do,in all aera's of the state.

Do it include Gravely Springs??!!

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That's okay. To me the  "Tri-Cities" as you see them will always be Hooterville, Pixley, and Petite Coat Junction.

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  Counting problems. 

  Seems like there were a lot of good people in Hooterville, and Petticoat Junction. I don't remember much about Pixley. There was even a rich lawyer and his wife in Hooterville. From New York if I remember correctly.

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Florence - 1826

Tuscumbia - 1820

Sheffield -1885

So yes, MS is the newcomer in the area.  It is a crying shame that you natives don't know your own history any better.

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I can see how you would think that.

So yes, MS is the newcomer in the area.  It is a crying shame that you natives don't know your own history any better

Get as snarky as you want to get. I never denied history. Last time because it's looking like you just want to argue. I told you why I considered the cities of MS, Sheffield and Tuscumbia the Tri-Cities. You have the video showing that is exactly what they were and still are called. THEY are the ones I heard called that all my life, that is how they are still referred to, so if you still have a problem you can contact the mayors and have it out  with them.