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It seems that Roy Moore, in some of the polls, has once again pulled ahead of Doug Jones in the Alabama Senate race.  It also seems that the typical non-Alabama media outlets, on both sides, are not giving it a rest either.  I, personally, think that the way that the liberal national press has prosecuted, convicted, and sentenced Roy Moore in the National Press has helped bring his numbers back in Alabama.  

I'm sure if you were to hear from al Franken he would be on the bandwagon for Moore to be drummed out of the Senate and removed from the campaign except now he would most likely be a lot quieter now that he's fighting to stay in the Senate after the allegations against him.  He's a pig of a person and one of the greatest hypocrites the Democrats have. 

Back to Roy Moore, regarding the  most damaging allegation against him which is the 14 year old's remarks I do believe they were politically timed to attempt to sink Roy Moore's campaign but I also believe there is a good chance that there is truth in both sides of the story.  This was apparently a very wild and troubled (at the time) teen that admittingly sought to fit in and sought to be with older boys/men at the time.  I fully believe that Roy Moore would not have pursued this girl had he known she was 14 at the time.  I also fully believe that the girl misled Roy Moore into believing that she was legal and consenting at the time.  The thing about the story that I find most unbelievable is that they were together two separate times, and that they were both undressed or partially there yet they did not have sexual contact.  I would think if Moore was a pervert or the person that the media is playing him out to be then he would have taken full advantage of the situation and forced himself on the girl and it would not have just been being touched and then leaving.

I believe in that story, of the girls, Roy Moore was interested in her but Roy Moore was led to believe she was old enough to make those decisions legally and of the age of consent.  I do believe Roy Moore was a man that was attracted to younger (legal) women.  One only has to look at many people of that generation and see that this was no uncommon thing and even Representative Conyers , one of the Democrats in Congress who is under suspicion, married a woman very much younger than he is/was.  It is not even uncommon among older, wealthy, women to go after much younger men yet with Moore this is to be disqualifying, Why?    

The question comes down to did he know she was under age as in Moore being a pedophile and to that question I fully trust and believe he was and is not.  I believe his judgement, at that time in his life, may not have been the best about choosing the youngest of girls to go after but I fully believe he was careful and went after only those that were legally capable of making dating decisions.  I do not believe that Moore would have, in the position he was in, sought after girls below the age of consent and thus illegal and many men of his generation and even today, essentially do the same thing and are successful at it because of the extreme wealth they have and benefits that they can bestow upon girls who make the decision to  date them.   I also have no doubt that there are girls out there who lie about their age and who look older and are able to convince people of their lie.  Tracy Lords is one of the most famous that was revealed to have lied in order to work in the adult **** industry and was able to fool everyone else.  

Again IF Moore though knew this girl was 14 ,at the time, and still pursued her or deliberately had any contact with her, then that would be a reason to eliminate him from the race and to keep him from holding that office.  I fear though if truth was known that far worse are occupying seats in Congress than the crime that Roy Moore is accused of.  It is still an accusation and while I do believe there is a measure of truth in it I do believe it's politically motivated, in it's timing, I do believe some of the accusations are not exactly what's alleged, and I do not believe Roy Moore would have done anything he knew to be illegal but I do believe he was a fan and  had his eye on young girls seeking to date them, but date them legally and for that I do not believe that is or should be disqualifying.  Pedophilia is disqualifying and illegal and those guilty of such should be removed from our society and put in prison and prosecuted protecting the young.   IF Moore is/was guilty of that then it shouldn't be the news media that the complaint is made to but rather the police but somehow I don't think that is what happened here.  I believe the girl was troubled, I believe she lied about her age and quite likely appeared older so as to be able to sell it.  I also believe that she went along willingly with (then) younger Roy Moore seeking to have an older boyfriend to brag about.  I do also feel that this is being blown out of proportion for political motivation in hopes to elect Doug Jones even though I don't know if Doug Jones has anything directly to do with it happening the way it is.

And that is why come December 12th, I will have no problem voting for Roy Moore and continue to believe he is innocent of what he's being charged of doing.  If though information or evidence comes forth between now and then that proves otherwise then I reserve the right to change my mind. 

Be as the Bereans ( Acts 17:11 )

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I think you are safe in your hopes as long as journalist, like those on MSNBC, who openly say they have never been to Alabama then follow it up with a generalization of every white Alabama male as being some inbred pedophile as they reported on the Moore story.  Anyone, not from Alabama, who didn't know better, would think similarly of the State, I'm sure.

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uandurine posted:

I just hope, no matter how the election comes out, that Alabama can still retain the position as the uneducated redneck capital of the world.

I don't think we have that title. Too, I'd like to hear the name of ONE state or country that has the right to talk about Alabama or the USA. I'll vote for Moore for a few reasons. He's not a pedophile, and I don't believe the accusations. The left has outright lied, such as their lie about him being banned from a mall, the timing of the accusations, the fake year book signature, wapo latest attempt at making us believe a woman came to them with a false story about Moore and they "outted her". Maybe so, but it was wapo's fake story. Other reasons, jones is a weasel that upholds baby murder, he's a demoslop, enough reason not to vote for him, he's a liar, and makes me want to puke every time I see his troll face and his messed up nose, and voting for Moore will peeve off the demoslops. And the hypocrisy of the left that always figures into every issue.

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Republicans have been the gift that keeps on giving, to the Democrats. They can't agree among themselves enough to pass any meaningful legislation. Now, they're wondering what the midterm elections will bring them.

 

Alabama Republican's battle cry 'better a pedophile than a Democrat'.  So much for those 'family values'.

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Republican Roy Moore appears to have pulled back into a lead in Alabama’s special Senate election. Moore had lost ground in the polls after allegations of child molestation and sexual misconduct were leveled against him starting on Nov. 9. But three new polls out this week — from Change ResearchEmerson College and JMC Analytics — have Moore leading Democrat Doug Jones by 5 to 6 percentage points.

Latest Alabama Senate polls show Moore ahead

There has always been party politics and people that would only vote for candidates of one party but I don't remember there being a time that the two parties were so far apart and opposed to each other.  We have a congress where the Democrats as a block have decided to totally oppose ANYTHING that Trump and/or the Republicans do.  Years past when the Democrats held the majority they screamed and bellyhooed like crazy when Republicans voted to oppose them clambering how they were just obstructionist and how that was such a bad thing.   Now they are doing the exact same thing and yet you don't hear it mentioned in negative terms anymore.  

Maybe its time that both parties started thinking about he people that elected them and not as much bout themselves. 

GBRK
Maybe its time that both parties started thinking about he people that
elected them and not as much bout themselves. 
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T he Dems really don't care who voted Democrat as shown by
mobuma when he invited the entire population of S. America to
illegally invade our country for their slave votes.
It isn't the conservatives changing, it's the liberals sliding off the
map to the side dark. They showed their hand when it was no way
they would lose the election, they thought, the destruction promised
by Barack Hussein and HeldaThug was to finish it.   
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direstraits posted:

Once more, last time I reviewed the Forbes list of the richest Americans, Democrats were 8 of the top ten.  The other two were the Koch brothers -- libertarian Republicans and Never Trumpers.  We have met the enemy -- Demmies in polecat disguises. 

I can't imagine how Trump got elected or how Conservatives are going to make it.  As you alluded to the BIG MONEY and the media is on the Democrats side and in their corner.  People like Soros and especially Bezos with their billions almost make it seem an impossibility to overcome their advantages yet Trump did, and of that I'm extremely glad.  As for the future and 2020 is where I'm concerned because I fear if the Democrats are successful in winning majorities in 2018 that the Impeach Trump move could just get enough votes to take over.

SirWasabi posted:

We're sure showing the rest of the country what Alabama has to offer. Jeff Sessions and Roy Moore. Let that sink in for a minute.

Regardless of the illegal votes, the more realistic Democrats
joined the responsible conservatives and together made
D J Trump POTUS. Let that sink in for a minute while you
witness more people than not like Roy Moore and Jeff Sessions
better than the liberal trash you ran. The country rejected the
move by mobumer/hilda to sell out our country, not the country
you want it to be, but our American country, sink into that for about
four years.      

so how many years ago what all this stuff?  what has he done since?   how many stupid things have any of us done years ago?   how many over came alcoholism, drugs, or what ever?  how long has he been married?  

The country is labeling Moore for over 30 years ago?   I guess I can't run for office, I am sure I did plenty of stupid stuff over 30 years ago.   Especially that someone can exaggerate on and I wouldn't be able to prove them wrong.

1130 posted:

so how many years ago what all this stuff?  what has he done since?   how many stupid things have any of us done years ago?   how many over came alcoholism, drugs, or what ever?  how long has he been married?  

The country is labeling Moore for over 30 years ago?   I guess I can't run for office, I am sure I did plenty of stupid stuff over 30 years ago.   Especially that someone can exaggerate on and I wouldn't be able to prove them wrong.

Bill Clinton did cocaine, raped and molested women, with accusations going back as far as when he was in England dodging the draft. He's been at it a lot longer than 30 years. He has never stopped his pervy ways. His good pal is a pedophile with an island where he takes his little girls. An island Bill Clinton visited and flew to on the "Lolita Express". Not to mention Monica and the other affairs, the shady money deals. Yet the left thumbed their noses at Clinton's victims and detractors and elected him twice, and tried to elect his enabler, supporter, partner in crime, Hillary.  Now, after all these years they come after Moore with accusations/lies? Why now? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ that's why. Money and the desperate attempt to put a Democrat in office.

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SirWasabi posted:

So, as long as a sexual assault happened long enough ago, it's no big deal?

I'm sure 10 women got together and said 'you know what would be fun? Lets attack Roy Moore.' There's no defense for a pedophile to be elected to the US Senate.

Not to say Republicans don't have their share but you do realize that IF the accusations against Roy Moore are legit and real that these happened during and while Roy Moore was a Democrat?   Al Franken has admitted to his conduct (had to account of pictures) yet refuses to leave the senate yet insist that Moore should leave the race and that there is no room in the senate for him.  How do you feel about that?  What should happen to Franken?  Should you not feel the exact same way about Franken as you do Moore? 

Well, lets see... Franken supported his own ethics investigation, apologized, and perhaps will resign.

Moore denies the allegations, threatens the women, has stories still coming out that he continues to deny. Moore's allegations include children/minors. People who know Moore back these women and corroborate their stories. 

Democrats openly criticize Franken as well as every other Democrat who's been accused or admitted the attacks.

Republicans openly back Moore and call his accusers liars. 10 women and the people of Moore's home town back the women.

Backing a pedophile for senate sure does fall in line with those great christian/family values.

Another woman says Franken tried to forcibly kiss her

The Minnesota senator is accused of making an unwanted sexual advance after a taping of his radio show in 2006. He denies the allegation.

https://www.politico.com/story...rassment-2006-281049

No Senate Democrats have called on Franken to resign, though a smattering of House Democrats have done so.

A "smattering".

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SirWasabi posted:

Well, lets see... Franken supported his own ethics investigation, apologized, and perhaps will resign.

Moore denies the allegations, threatens the women, has stories still coming out that he continues to deny. Moore's allegations include children/minors. People who know Moore back these women and corroborate their stories. 

Democrats openly criticize Franken as well as every other Democrat who's been accused or admitted the attacks.

Republicans openly back Moore and call his accusers liars. 10 women and the people of Moore's home town back the women.

Backing a pedophile for senate sure does fall in line with those great christian/family values.

Franken guilty by way of physical evidence, Moore not guilty
of claims or hear say evidence, let that sink in for more than minute.. 

Republicans will go to any lengths to back Roy Moore, including lie, as witnessed in the two posts above. Republicans can stop using 'family values' in their statements. They couldn't care less about family values. Also, "pro-life' is a joke. Republicans are 'pro-birth', after that, you're a freeloader until you have a job.

 

GOP = Groping Old Perverts

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gbrk posted:
SirWasabi posted:

So, as long as a sexual assault happened long enough ago, it's no big deal?

I'm sure 10 women got together and said 'you know what would be fun? Lets attack Roy Moore.' There's no defense for a pedophile to be elected to the US Senate.

Not to say Republicans don't have their share but you do realize that IF the accusations against Roy Moore are legit and real that these happened during and while Roy Moore was a Democrat?   Al Franken has admitted to his conduct (had to account of pictures) yet refuses to leave the senate yet insist that Moore should leave the race and that there is no room in the senate for him.  How do you feel about that?  What should happen to Franken?  Should you not feel the exact same way about Franken as you do Moore? 

Well, what's the latest excuse for voting for a pedophile?

SirWasabi posted:

And God said "just don't remove a fertilized egg and pedophilia is perfectly fine."

I still find it amazing how easily you are willing to ignore the rights offered to any American citizen such as being innocent until proven guilty.  There has been no proof or evidence that Roy Moore is guilty of pedophilia .  The only ones that know for sure is Roy Moore and the girl but there is plenty of reason to give the benefit of the doubt.  For one IF Roy Moore was guilty, as you have no problem considering him as, then what is your belief as to why Roy Moore didn't commit the act itself?  As I have heard it was a situation where there was some possible touching or petting but no act which would be bad enough itself  (    IF   )  Roy Moore knew she was under age.  No one can say if he knew that.  

What we do know is the Girl enjoyed running around with older boys, making older boys believe she was older and wanted to fit in with the older crowd.  There is plenty or reason to suspect that she may have lied about her age or if Roy Moore did attempt to date her though she was over the age of accountability.  We just don't know, or most of us don't know, as you seem to be able to discern.  

IF Roy Moore was guilty then that IS reason not to vote for him but at this point there is enough reason to suspect what is happening is a hit job in an attempt to cause Moore to lose.  I just don't believe there is enough evidence or reason to convict him of what you have no problem convicting him of.   I just hope that if you are ever in a position of needing the benefit of the doubt that someone will give it to you rather than rushing to judgment without concern for your own rights.  

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I thought that was evident.  I am going to vote for Moore and the only way I wouldn't is if there was some proof of his guilt and I don't believe that evidence is there.  Did he like dating younger girls, yeah, and many people today do exactly the same thing.  What I doubt is that he knowingly dated or would date an underage girl.   I am confident that Roy Moore is not a pedophile otherwise I would not be able to vote for him.  

The main disqualifying reason I can't vote for Doug Jones is his Abortion stand and frankly I don't believe him when he says he wouldn't be there to vote as someone else said vote.  I fully believe that Jones, if elected, would be a locked up vote for the Democrats to oppose and obstruct anything that Donald Trump and/or the Republicans wanted to do.  I just don't believe Doug Jones would vote for anything that Trump wanted or proposed.

SirWasabi posted:

So, as long as a sexual assault happened long enough ago, it's no big deal?

I'm sure 10 women got together and said 'you know what would be fun? Lets attack Roy Moore.' There's no defense for a pedophile to be elected to the US Senate.

Come, come. Pedophile? No. There's a word for Moore and it's ephebophilia. Ephebophiles like 15 to 19 year old girls and that's definitely Moore. How old was his wife when he first saw her and became smitten? 15. No matter that he was 29 at the time. 

No matter that he lied in his autobiography about dating Kayla after her divorce.

No matter that he tells people they're going to Hell.

No matter that his income returns don't match.

No matter that he says what the press has done to him is unforgivable.

No matter that he lied about Planned Parenthood contributing to Doug Jones' campaign. 

No matter that he refuses to debate Doug Jones.

No matter that he's already planning on trying to unseat Mitch McConnell.

No, no matter as long as he's an "R."

gbrk posted:

I thought that was evident.  I am going to vote for Moore and the only way I wouldn't is if there was some proof of his guilt and I don't believe that evidence is there.  Did he like dating younger girls, yeah, and many people today do exactly the same thing.  What I doubt is that he knowingly dated or would date an underage girl.   I am confident that Roy Moore is not a pedophile otherwise I would not be able to vote for him.  

The main disqualifying reason I can't vote for Doug Jones is his Abortion stand and frankly I don't believe him when he says he wouldn't be there to vote as someone else said vote.  I fully believe that Jones, if elected, would be a locked up vote for the Democrats to oppose and obstruct anything that Donald Trump and/or the Republicans wanted to do.  I just don't believe Doug Jones would vote for anything that Trump wanted or proposed.

Murder of babies is big business and money makers for the demoslops. PP protects child molesters and that is OK with the slops because PP shovels part of that evil money into their coffers. Stop abortions and you take away the joy the demoslops have in being able to murder babies AND get paid to do it.

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direstraits posted:

Twelve to fifteen years difference in ages was not uncommon in my grandparents time.  A man was supposed to be financially sound before marriage.  

Marriage to Laura Ingalls. When Wilder was 25 years old and Ingalls was age 15, the two began courting. Wilder would drive Ingalls back and forth between De Smet and a new settlement 12 miles (19 km) outside town where she was teaching school and boarding.

Oh, and Hugh Hefner 86, his bride 26! Ha!

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I have a friend who's 60 and dates a 40 year old. He also drives a Merc and wears a Rolex. Think there's a connection?

Undoubtedly, Kayla Kisor saw both financial stability and upward mobility when she looked into Roy Moore's beady eyes for the first time. Has anyone heard of a cause Kayla espouses that's unique to her? No, didn't think so. Instead of referring to him as "my husband," she says "the judge." Everyone remember the George Wallace and the schoolteacher convention joke?

direstraits posted:

Trump, rather crudely, in his talk with Billy Bush told an old truth.  Men use wealth and power to attract women.  Women use money to make themselves attractive to men.  Such has been the case since a hunter returned to the cave with a tasty animal.  

He didn't say anything that wasn't true. Need another example? Hugh Hefner.

direstraits posted:

Trump, rather crudely, in his talk with Billy Bush told an old truth.  Men use wealth and power to attract women.  Women use money to make themselves attractive to men.  Such has been the case since a hunter returned to the cave with a tasty animal.  

Silly me, I've always looked for a sense of humor and a brain, plus a little moral integrity. I don't think Moore has any of those.

 

FVPOA posted:
direstraits posted:

Trump, rather crudely, in his talk with Billy Bush told an old truth.  Men use wealth and power to attract women.  Women use money to make themselves attractive to men.  Such has been the case since a hunter returned to the cave with a tasty animal.  

Silly me, I've always looked for a sense of humor and a brain, plus a little moral integrity. I don't think Moore has any of those.

 

Did you see Moore mentioned in this comment?  Don't think so!  Humor, sense and integrity are nice, but not what a lot of women were looking for.  

No, you didn't mention Moore, I did. I said he didn't have anything I was looking for in a man. And there has always been a misunderstanding about how much lawyers make, especially in north Alabama. Perhaps Moore was rich to Kayla, no matter what, but I've dated several attorneys and they didn't make the mint that some people think. Some years I made more money than they did.

Perhaps Roy thinks he has to make money from the foundation to keep Kayla? In the end, be it a man or woman, if you marry for money, you deserve what you get.

The question of whether Roy Moore liked dating younger girls/women was never in question rather whether or not he knew this 14 year old girl was actually 14 and illegal at the time and frankly only Roy Moore knows the truth to that.  None of us know if he knew or found out or if the girl led him on to think she was older than she was.  What we do know is now she is crying foul but then she saw him multiple times and had to sneak out to do it.  If someone was abusing you and doing something illegal I don't think you would be sneaking away in order to meet them so that you could be abused nor do I think you would do it more than once.  

Also the idea that someone voting for Roy Moore condones abuse of young children is crazy also.  The whole thing is more political than anything else and those who have already convicted Roy Moore and are ready to Lynch him would have no problem if he was a Democrat and someone of their own party.  The age difference between Bill Clinton and Monica was equally as bad only there you had had a man in the most powerful office of the Nation taking advantage of a young intern and no one cared the least bit about it because he was a Democrat, not the media nor the majority of Senators or other Democrats because their party was in power.  It's all politics and to try and say it's anything else is just being as deceptive as CNN usually is in their reporting.  

The next step in this current parade that is going on before us is to go after Donald Trump and attempt to force him to resign stating that he has harassed or abused women.  Any thing that they can try and use as leverage and everyone knows that since the Russian Collusion story is falling apart at it's seams now the media and liberals will be using the "me too" card and calling for Donald Trump to step down, Roy Moore is just a side show in that effort.  

Bestworking posted:

There is no reason in the world for Trump to step down. What he said is true, and the left are the worse about it as we have seen lately. If they want to worry about pedophiles, which I doubt they do, they can go back to their ex-president and his pal, and his wife who defended them all and laughed about it.

I'm not disagreeing ... The whole liberal left turned their heads away from Clinton as he, a much older (than Roy Moore) man in the highest position office in the nation took advantage of a very young intern, in the Oval Office and all with no remorse.  The only remorse was getting caught.  Hillary did enable this and always has as she destroyed other women's reputations as they attempted to tell the truth about her Husband so she is just as guilty.  

As for my statement about Trump, that was made because I fully believe that the Liberal left, and the Democrats along with the help of the media, are going to go full out to attempt to get Trump through those women who accused him of harassment.  Trump never bragged about anything and all Trump has done is having to deal with lies about what he did say.    I fully, though, expect that this is the avenue that the Democrats and media will use in an attempt to get him to resign or to impeach him, both of which I believe will fail miserably as more of their own are taken down in the process.   

The whole Russian dossier and Collusion talk was totally an attempt to overthrow the legitimate election of Donald Trump.  The dossier was proven to be false, bought and paid for by Democrats although started by Republicans, but all false and an attempt to stop Trump.  You have FBI agents that both worked actively to stop prosecution of Clinton (who deserves to be in jail) and remove/stop Trump on totally fraudulent and false charges that very likely stems from illegally obtained wire taps and other illegal moves by current FBI agents who are highly partisan and biased toward Hillary Clinton and against Donald Trump.   People should go to jail but I doubt they ever will.  They will, like Lois Learner, who used her position to politically punish political opponents, and benefit in retirement due to their governmental golden parachutes (retirement and bonuses).

giftedamateur posted:
direstraits posted:

Twelve to fifteen years difference in ages was not uncommon in my grandparents time.  A man was supposed to be financially sound before marriage.  

Marriage to Laura Ingalls. When Wilder was 25 years old and Ingalls was age 15, the two began courting. Wilder would drive Ingalls back and forth between De Smet and a new settlement 12 miles (19 km) outside town where she was teaching school and boarding.

Oh, and Hugh Hefner 86, his bride 26! Ha!

Lewinsky scandal. The Lewinsky scandal was an American political sex scandal that involved 49-year-old President Bill Clinton and a 22-year-old White House intern, Monica Lewinsky. The sexual relationship took place between 1995 and 1996 and came to light in 1998.

Bestworking posted:
giftedamateur posted:
direstraits posted:

Twelve to fifteen years difference in ages was not uncommon in my grandparents time.  A man was supposed to be financially sound before marriage.  

Marriage to Laura Ingalls. When Wilder was 25 years old and Ingalls was age 15, the two began courting. Wilder would drive Ingalls back and forth between De Smet and a new settlement 12 miles (19 km) outside town where she was teaching school and boarding.

Oh, and Hugh Hefner 86, his bride 26! Ha!

Lewinsky scandal. The Lewinsky scandal was an American political sex scandal that involved 49-year-old President Bill Clinton and a 22-year-old White House intern, Monica Lewinsky. The sexual relationship took place between 1995 and 1996 and came to light in 1998.

Lewinsky was nothing, a non-event, don't you know that?  Why now the media outlets are crying that they messed up allowing Bill Clinton to get a pass for his actions when they should have required him to resign as any good President would if accused or caught doing such.  NOW though they have seen the error of their ways with this 1992-2000 President and now, since Donald Trump is in office they can remedy that by acting on information and accusations that he harassed women before.  NOW they can require Trump to resign and get rid of him.  That's what all this Hubbub is about.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...r-BBGv8lh?li=BBnb7Kz

The Russia Collusion deal is falling apart and even showing tendencies to involve Hillary and the Democrats so it has to go away while the REAL bad things can be investigated and require a President to resign.  These people are sick, deranged and won't go away and they surely will not quit and you can guarantee yourself that.  I only hope that Trump remains productive and popular and wins in 2020 which I think he should have no problem doing as long as the Republicans can pass his tax plan and America's economic growth continues as it has from when he was elected.  Much to the chagrin of the media which refuses to cover any good news if it has anything remotely to do with Trump.

Clinton is no longer of any use. He and Conyers are just expendables. Old horses that will be put out to pasture and no one really cares. So for all intents and purposes they, like the Kennedys and others, got away with it.  Franken won't go anywhere if Moore is elected, nor will the left ask him to leave. He too will get away with it. The left never does anything for the good of the country. Their actions are always self serving.

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Bestworking posted:

 "People should go to jail but I doubt they ever will".

Don't forget loretta lynch and her tarmac meeting with bill where they discussed grandkids, which neither of them have.

I don't they talked about anything, he deplaned smoking a cigar
and stuff, I'm thinking Christmas ideas for the beast,,, yup..
Kraven posted:
Bestworking posted:

 "People should go to jail but I doubt they ever will".

Don't forget loretta lynch and her tarmac meeting with bill where they discussed grandkids, which neither of them have.

I don't they talked about anything, he deplaned smoking a cigar
and stuff, I'm thinking Christmas ideas for the beast,,, yup..

Yes, he got her a heck of a Christmas gift, a get out of jail free card.

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