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Also, you are acting like everything Jesus ever said as all wine and roses... Jesus spoke a lot of angry rhetoric towards sinners and lukewarm Christians


How could Our Lod discuss Christians at all, since there were no such animals until after His death and resurrection? Is the "lukewarm" saying not from Paul? Were people not called "Christian" until they were so named in Antioch when a church was established there after a mission to there? I seem to remember that from Acts, the history of the earliest church.

If humans cannot condemn, then they are doing a mighty fine job of pretending to so do. Perhaps one means a "true condemnation" as in the condemnation of hypocrits who claim to be one thing yet are actually another, which is the work of the Lord while the 700 Club and TBN money keeps on rolling in.

Weren't the apostles given the power to bind and to loose?
"How could Our Lord discuss Christians at all, since there were no such animals until after His death and resurrection?"

But who really did come first the Christian or the Christ?

The founders of Christianity created a larger-than-life being they believed would bring them followers--and it did. However, they unwittingly imparted to Christ their own human frailties. Nevertheless, the number of followers increased dramatically once government and ecclesiastical authorities joined forces and made acceptance of Christianity mandatory.

They could not credit their “Lord and Savior” with bringing peace and goodwill, curing leprosy, preventing famine or eliminating poverty. It was obvious and indisputable that all of humankind’s maladies were as prevalent after Christ as before Christ. Christ’s proponents circumvented this problem by declaring that life on earth did not matter, as believers would spend eternity in paradise. As a subterfuge for Christ’s failure to cure diseases, etc. the proponents of the new religion disseminated stories about Christ performing miracles. It did not matter how farfetched the Gospels were. Beginning in the fourth century torture insured that they were “true.”

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