Saban loses another coach...

From what I've heard, Saban is tough to work for and not easy to be around. It doesn't really matter though, he was hired to win games not make friends.

I'm not one of those fans who compares Saban with Bryant, there is no comparison. Saban is a hired gun, the best money can buy. His loyalty lies with the school that pays the most. I don't predict Saban to be around for long, a few more years at the most until another school can come up with more money.

Despite Saban's flaws, he proved himself as a successful head coach before Bama hired him. That's something Auburn can't say about Chizik. He was strictly a political hire and I think the team will suffer for it for the next few years.

What bothers me is this is happening during recruiting season. Worst time it could happen. This could very well effect some recruits. From what i have read, so far it hasnt. But they havent signed on the dotted line yet either. So we'll have to wait and see. Lance Thompson was, according to a UT source, was given a substantial raise to go to the Vols. The source said a six figure raise. Bama probably should have at least countered with the same raise. He is a good recruiter.
If you know anything about Saban, he is the defensive coordinator. Saban calls the shots. Kevin Steele was the DC in name only. So by going to Clemson he will be the DC, which isnt a lateral move at all. He will control the D, something he couldnt do at Bama. And if he has aspirations of being a head coach, its a good move for him.

This is just wishful thinking on the part of barners. Applewhite went back to his home for an equil job, Steele went to a job that many see as a promotion since he will have total control of the defense and is looking to be a head coach some day soon.

Cheesestick, on the other hand, well I don't even know where to start.......

I'd like to know how Auburn Fans feel about the lack of solidarity among their coaches as well.

I mean yes, we have lost a few, and not necessarily to lesser jobs,
but are you forgetting all the controversy with Auburn's HEAD coach?

You had Tommy's own mother go public & say he was fired, yet he turns around & consistantly says he quit.
Either way, he exited out because of one reason, he had a terrible season.
And of course, because he lost to Alabama.

Saban was offered a very good chunk of money to come to Alabama,
turn our program around (which he did) and to win ball games (which he did).

Nash said it best, he is not there to make friends, he is there to win ball games,
Which He Will!

One thing you have to remember is when any program is successful other colleges come looking for assistant coaches. I think going from 6-5 to 12-2 in one year is pretty successful. When Bear was coaching he couldn't keep assistant coaches. There was an old saying that when other colleges needed an assistant coach they went shopping at Alabama in his day.

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Originally posted by Rowdymale:
One thing you have to remember is when any program is successful other colleges come looking for assistant coaches. I think going from 6-5 to 12-2 in one year is pretty successful. When Bear was coaching he couldn't keep assistant coaches. There was an old saying that when other colleges needed an assistant coach they went shopping at Alabama in his day.

You are ABSOLUTELY Right Rowdy!
Everybody always wants whats hot!!!

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Originally posted by NashBama:
From what I've heard, Saban is tough to work for and not easy to be around. It doesn't really matter though, he was hired to win games not make friends.

I'm not one of those fans who compares Saban with Bryant, there is no comparison. Saban is a hired gun, the best money can buy. His loyalty lies with the school that pays the most. I don't predict Saban to be around for long, a few more years at the most until another school can come up with more money.

Despite Saban's flaws, he proved himself as a successful head coach before Bama hired him. That's something Auburn can't say about Chizik. He was strictly a political hire and I think the team will suffer for it for the next few years.

I like that you live in reality to the point about Saban being a "hired gun" as you called it... That is absolutely correct. To show allegance to him would be silly...be happy for any win that Bama gets under his control, cause like you said, he'll jump ship in a second if it suits him. I disliked Saban well before he came to Bama, he was the coach of my favorite NFL team and I disliked him then... And I'm glad I didn't drink any Sabanade because then it may have bothered me when he left there.
But you seem the sensable type so I'll ask you this also... With the loss of most of that O-line and a senior QB and best running back, what are your expectations for bama next year, and what do you think the bamanation can stomach if a step backwards is taken?

As for bring up Chizik.... Why??? There is absolutely zero about the Tubbervile situation that resembles anything at bama. Bottom line is this, Tubbs did a great job of getting Auburn back in the national spotlight and was a perenial top 15 team, and hat Auburn in close competition for SEC title every year but his first and his last. he had been there 10 years and was obvious he made an error with the Franklin fiasco. Sometimes, you just have to cut your losses and start fresh. Whether he was fired or resigned is imaterial.
Chizik was blasted by many for taking the Iowa St. job because they thought he rushed into the first job that came open despite the obvious lack of a winning tradition to say the least... No coach has ever been over .500 at that school in football. However, Auburn is quite the opposite. He has already hired a fantastic staff of young upstart hardworking recruiters, he is well known for his ability to bring in recruits, and is also well known for coachin'em up....(he had back to back Thrope award winniers, and has seen many guys he coached go to the NFL). He love Auburn and believes in what he is selling to these kids when recruiting them. After everything that has happened, for him to be able to hang on to the recruiting class, and sign some new names, and get interest from big names that Tubbs and his staff had not even looked at are all very big deals, and to say otherwise is to be a bammer homer who lacks any objectivity.
Don't be suprised if Auburn is sittin atop the SEC west next year... LSU, Bama, and Ole Miss are all lookin pretty ordinary for next season and if Auburn see's even average improvement from the offense and the defense just stays the same(which I think it will be better) then no one will run over the Tigers.

Is replying to your own post like having a split personality?

You better hope Auburn's defense gets better next year. It got 36 hung on it by Bama.

Yes, I would be surprised it Auburn is sitting atop the SEC West. I'm not saying they won't. Just saying I'd be surprised.

All of Chizik's accolades have been as a defensive coordinator. Not as a head coach. Big difference between a coordinator and a head coach. Many other coordinators have found that out. Yes his only head coaching experience has been at a university that has never been better than .500. Problem is, Chizik brought that average down in his two years at Iowa State. Only time will tell if Chizz is going to be Auburn's savior.

LOL

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Originally posted by Rowdymale:
Is replying to your own post like having a split personality?

You better hope Auburn's defense gets better next year. It got 36 hung on it by Bama.

Yes, I would be surprised it Auburn is sitting atop the SEC West. I'm not saying they won't. Just saying I'd be surprised.

All of Chizik's accolades have been as a defensive coordinator. Not as a head coach. Big difference between a coordinator and a head coach. Many other coordinators have found that out. Yes his only head coaching experience has been at a university that has never been better than .500. Problem is, Chizik brought that average down in his two years at Iowa State. Only time will tell if Chizz is going to be Auburn's savior.

I didn't reply to my own post... I replied to what others said...... genious
like i said....bammer homers with not a lick of objectivity or sense in this case.... actually Auburn played pretty daggone good against bammie till they decided to start turning the ball over without any help from bama....(2 fumbles in back to back possessions by Auburn in there own territory without a bama player touching them)... so as usual this year, Auburn's offense didn't give the D a chance to be successful. It's the snowball effect... Auburn was a missed FG and pick 6 that shouldve been to being tied at 10.... but after the dropped pick6 and 2 fumbles it was 24-0 and over... Auburn sucked this year on offense if you didnt notice.... bama did nothing special

by the way... at alabama saban was only 6-7 after a coaching turnover.... that's the great alabama....football powerhouse of tradition.... Chizik took over a bad iowa state team and struggled durning a coaching turnover.... that's not suprising. That wouldve been at least a 5 to 7 year task just to get that team to .500 or a little better. And by the way, Iowa St. gave him an extension before he left to come to Auburn so they mustve liked something he was doing. Once again.... a little objectivety would be nice.... daggone flammers ruin it for senseable bama fans.

sorry... 7-6, dislexia
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If I were a LB coach and had the opportunity to work with Monte Kiffin, I'd lave Alabama to go to a peewee league. That's taking a hit in the short-term, but if you can grow and learn under one of the best defensive minds in all of football, why wouldn't you?

The other two, who can say?

I think perhaps it has more to do with the recent annoucement of a "divorce", rather than Saban. Sorry to throw water on the Barners, but the Tuscaloosa ship is not near to foundering yet. I would worry more about the debacle down on the plains than what is going on in Saban's realm.

"you better hope Auburn's defense gets better next year. It got 36 hung on it by Bama. "

Defense really wasn't the issue this year, as Auburn still had a top one at the end of the year. Most of the points scored on Auburn were due to the lack offense production, meaning the the defense had to be on the field way to long and was way to winded (look at the Iron Bowl, close until the second half when Auburn's offense really started tanking). With an ounce of offensive production in 09, Auburn will be much improved. Defense is the least of the worries on the plains.