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Originally posted by Kraven:
What is going to happen to the pre-plymouth rock Indians?
They weren't Christians. They weren't baptized.
Where are their souls now???


Isn't obvious? Because they were Godless Savages, Good Christians like the Pilgrims and other early settlers took their lands and moved them to the reservation. Even earlier than that, the Spanish and Portuguese managed to wipe out the Godless Mayan,Aztec, and other civilizations in South America.

God sent disease and famine and his followers to do His bidding. Any that converted to Christianity were spared the Wrath of God and allowed to prosper, sort of, as long as they married into God's Spanish or Portuguese family. The rest were left in the jungle or made to work in Nike sweat shops.

God rewards his followers, and strikes down his enemies. So obviously, these Godless Savages now reside in hell.
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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
quote:
Originally posted by Kraven:
What is going to happen to the pre-plymouth rock Indians?
They weren't Christians. They weren't baptized.
Where are their souls now???


Isn't obvious? Because they were Godless Savages, Good Christians like the Pilgrims and other early settlers took their lands and moved them to the reservation. Even earlier than that, the Spanish and Portuguese managed to wipe out the Godless Mayan,Aztec, and other civilizations in South America.

God sent disease and famine and his followers to do His bidding. Any that converted to Christianity were spared the Wrath of God and allowed to prosper, sort of, as long as they married into God's Spanish or Portuguese family. The rest were left in the jungle or made to work in Nike sweat shops.

God rewards his followers, and strikes down his enemies. So obviously, these Godless Savages now reside in hell.



crusty,

So God created people just to send them to hell?

Not my God, Why would he do it? There's no logic in it.
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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
quote:
Originally posted by Kraven:
What is going to happen to the pre-plymouth rock Indians?
They weren't Christians. They weren't baptized.
Where are their souls now???


Isn't obvious? Because they were Godless Savages, Good Christians like the Pilgrims and other early settlers took their lands and moved them to the reservation. Even earlier than that, the Spanish and Portuguese managed to wipe out the Godless Mayan,Aztec, and other civilizations in South America.

God sent disease and famine and his followers to do His bidding. Any that converted to Christianity were spared the Wrath of God and allowed to prosper, sort of, as long as they married into God's Spanish or Portuguese family. The rest were left in the jungle or made to work in Nike sweat shops.

God rewards his followers, and strikes down his enemies. So obviously, these Godless Savages now reside in hell.


Crusty,
The Indians were not savages.
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Originally posted by Kraven:
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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
quote:
Originally posted by Kraven:
What is going to happen to the pre-plymouth rock Indians?
They weren't Christians. They weren't baptized.
Where are their souls now???


Isn't obvious? Because they were Godless Savages, Good Christians like the Pilgrims and other early settlers took their lands and moved them to the reservation. Even earlier than that, the Spanish and Portuguese managed to wipe out the Godless Mayan,Aztec, and other civilizations in South America.

God sent disease and famine and his followers to do His bidding. Any that converted to Christianity were spared the Wrath of God and allowed to prosper, sort of, as long as they married into God's Spanish or Portuguese family. The rest were left in the jungle or made to work in Nike sweat shops.

God rewards his followers, and strikes down his enemies. So obviously, these Godless Savages now reside in hell.



crusty,

So God created people just to send them to hell?

Not my God, Why would he do it? There's no logic in it.


Apparently that is just what he did. He also interferes in our everyday lives - killing one person in a car accident while saving the person in the next seat. He gives people diseases only to cure them, or not, later.

Many times he is late on the scene, and it isn't until one has suffered unmentionable agony that he decides to show up and give relief, or not. Of course this is for a higher purpose which we aren't meant to understand, unless of course the Bible says we are.

If you pray to him, he may answer your prayers, or he may not, which is an answer in itself.

At some point he decided to break with the Jewish people and switched his covenant from them (sometime before WWII, I would guess), and now his chosen people are those of the U S of A.

His only son was sent to us, and just us, not to anyone who hasn't been saved, to show his love for us, and his hate of everyone else.
Crusty.. you are a misguided soul my friend... Only thing I'm gonna say, though I'm sure you don't care and will never change your hardened opinion... God does not interfere in our lives... God does not intervene on our lives. God doesn't kill anyone. God doesn't protect anyone. We just move along in our lives and deal with only the consequences of our decisions most of the time, and unfortunately must deal with the consequences of other folks decisions the rest. Then random sickness fills in the holes. Remember.. Sickness did not exist until sin... and sickness will never go away until also does sin.
When you come to that realization your bitterness will subside.
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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
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Originally posted by Kraven:
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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
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Originally posted by Kraven:
What is going to happen to the pre-plymouth rock Indians?
They weren't Christians. They weren't baptized.
Where are their souls now???


Isn't obvious? Because they were Godless Savages, Good Christians like the Pilgrims and other early settlers took their lands and moved them to the reservation. Even earlier than that, the Spanish and Portuguese managed to wipe out the Godless Mayan,Aztec, and other civilizations in South America.

God sent disease and famine and his followers to do His bidding. Any that converted to Christianity were spared the Wrath of God and allowed to prosper, sort of, as long as they married into God's Spanish or Portuguese family. The rest were left in the jungle or made to work in Nike sweat shops.

God rewards his followers, and strikes down his enemies. So obviously, these Godless Savages now reside in hell.



crusty,

So God created people just to send them to hell?

Not my God, Why would he do it? There's no logic in it.


Apparently that is just what he did. He also interferes in our everyday lives - killing one person in a car accident while saving the person in the next seat. He gives people diseases only to cure them, or not, later.

Many times he is late on the scene, and it isn't until one has suffered unmentionable agony that he decides to show up and give relief, or not. Of course this is for a higher purpose which we aren't meant to understand, unless of course the Bible says we are.

If you pray to him, he may answer your prayers, or he may not, which is an answer in itself.

At some point he decided to break with the Jewish people and switched his covenant from them (sometime before WWII, I would guess), and now his chosen people are those of the U S of A.

His only son was sent to us, and just us, not to anyone who hasn't been saved, to show his love for us, and his hate of everyone else.



MrustyCac,

You didn't hear one word b50m said, did you.
It's OK, Flash backs come and go.
Now I'm just guessing here, but, I believe that the Lord had a plan for the ancient people of the Americas.
I have no idea what it was or how it took place. There is just so much history that has no written words.
I could go on and on but I think everyone can understand what I'm trying to say.

We will find out out in the great by and by.
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
Crusty.. you are a misguided soul my friend... Only thing I'm gonna say, though I'm sure you don't care and will never change your hardened opinion... God does not interfere in our lives... God does not intervene on our lives. God doesn't kill anyone. God doesn't protect anyone. We just move along in our lives and deal with only the consequences of our decisions most of the time, and unfortunately must deal with the consequences of other folks decisions the rest. Then random sickness fills in the holes. Remember.. Sickness did not exist until sin... and sickness will never go away until also does sin.
When you come to that realization your bitterness will subside.


Ah, Peter, another misguided soul bound for hell. God doesn't interfere in our lives? Blasphemy, sheer unadulterated blasphemy. Look around, man. God sent the 9/11 terrorists to punish the sinners of Sodam and Gomorahh New York and Washington, because of their sinful ways.

He cures disease daily to all who pray. And you are right, until that harlot Eve set Adam on the wrong path, there was no disease. Now it is all over the place, and it is punishment for one's wrongdoing.

Get with the program, man.
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Originally posted by themax:
Now I'm just guessing here, but, I believe that the Lord had a plan for the ancient people of the Americas.
I have no idea what it was or how it took place. There is just so much history that has no written words.
I could go on and on but I think everyone can understand what I'm trying to say.

We will find out out in the great by and by.


I'm sure he did, but after they set off for the New World from Babylon they took up basketball, human sacrifice, and worshiping false gods.

They had to be punished and set back on the road to righteousness and textile working.
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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
Ah, Peter, another misguided soul bound for hell. God doesn't interfere in our lives? Blasphemy, sheer unadulterated blasphemy. Look around, man. God sent the 9/11 terrorists to punish the sinners of Sodam and Gomorahh New York and Washington, because of their sinful ways.

He cures disease daily to all who pray. And you are right, until that harlot Eve set Adam on the wrong path, there was no disease. Now it is all over the place, and it is punishment for one's wrongdoing.

Get with the program, man.


God did not send terrorist to blow up the World Trade Towers, just as he does not send terrorists anywhere to blow up anything. Those are wicked decisions of man.

God does not pick and choose "healings", thus, he heals no one. Just as he doesn't pick and choose "sickness", thus, he sickens no one.

God is not a magician for us to call on in rough times, God is not Mr. Fixit who swoops in to help us when we screw something up.

That is misguided non-sense pure and simple. It's a scapegoat for Christians who don't understand why bad things happen, and it's a scapegoat for non-believers to not love God because He "causes" bad things to happen. It's all foolishness that is man-made.

God's final tangible connection was made with the birth, life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. He then left it to us to walk by faith that we could join Him again someday. Beyond that, life is part what you do and what happens to you, and the rest is how you handle those things that happen to you that you cannot control.
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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
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Originally posted by Kraven:
What is going to happen to the pre-plymouth rock Indians?
They weren't Christians. They weren't baptized.
Where are their souls now???


Isn't obvious? Because they were Godless Savages, Good Christians like the Pilgrims and other early settlers took their lands and moved them to the reservation. Even earlier than that, the Spanish and Portuguese managed to wipe out the Godless Mayan,Aztec, and other civilizations in South America.

God sent disease and famine and his followers to do His bidding. Any that converted to Christianity were spared the Wrath of God and allowed to prosper, sort of, as long as they married into God's Spanish or Portuguese family. The rest were left in the jungle or made to work in Nike sweat shops.

God rewards his followers, and strikes down his enemies. So obviously, these Godless Savages now reside in hell.
I am apalled at your blindness, "God" supposedly created everything and everyone, so wouldn't that mean the pre-shoved down your throat religion, Natives are His also? Therefor they would be in heaven if there is one. And probably in higher status than two-faced lying fanatics who shove their beliefs in peoples faces without a care to their free will. I would think "God" would love everything he created not just the Godbot followers.
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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
Crusty.. you are a misguided soul my friend... Only thing I'm gonna say, though I'm sure you don't care and will never change your hardened opinion... God does not interfere in our lives... God does not intervene on our lives. God doesn't kill anyone. God doesn't protect anyone. We just move along in our lives and deal with only the consequences of our decisions most of the time, and unfortunately must deal with the consequences of other folks decisions the rest. Then random sickness fills in the holes. Remember.. Sickness did not exist until sin... and sickness will never go away until also does sin.
When you come to that realization your bitterness will subside.


Ah, Peter, another misguided soul bound for hell. God doesn't interfere in our lives? Blasphemy, sheer unadulterated blasphemy. Look around, man. God sent the 9/11 terrorists to punish the sinners of Sodam and Gomorahh New York and Washington, because of their sinful ways.

He cures disease daily to all who pray. And you are right, until that harlot Eve set Adam on the wrong path, there was no disease. Now it is all over the place, and it is punishment for one's wrongdoing.

Get with the program, man.




If you think "God" sent the terrorists, and the terrorists say "Allah" sent them, then you must believe in "Allah", nice to know you're on the same page with the terrorists religion.
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Originally posted by Xena68:
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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
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Originally posted by Kraven:
What is going to happen to the pre-plymouth rock Indians?
They weren't Christians. They weren't baptized.
Where are their souls now???


Isn't obvious? Because they were Godless Savages, Good Christians like the Pilgrims and other early settlers took their lands and moved them to the reservation. Even earlier than that, the Spanish and Portuguese managed to wipe out the Godless Mayan,Aztec, and other civilizations in South America.

God sent disease and famine and his followers to do His bidding. Any that converted to Christianity were spared the Wrath of God and allowed to prosper, sort of, as long as they married into God's Spanish or Portuguese family. The rest were left in the jungle or made to work in Nike sweat shops.

God rewards his followers, and strikes down his enemies. So obviously, these Godless Savages now reside in hell.
I am apalled at your blindness, "God" supposedly created everything and everyone, so wouldn't that mean the pre-shoved down your throat religion, Natives are His also? Therefor they would be in heaven if there is one. And probably in higher status than two-faced lying fanatics who shove their beliefs in peoples faces without a care to their free will. I would think "God" would love everything he created not just the Godbot followers.


No Xena, you almost have it right. The "pre-shoved down your throat religion Natives" are definitely his. He created everything right? But as we see repeatedly through history, his creations go astray.

Heck he had to wipe out all of humanity except for one family and all the animals - except dinosaurs, unicorns, and the like. He smote Sodom and Gomorrah, and wipes out all kinds of wrong doers. Look at what happened in Haiti recently, and the tsunami a couple of years ago.

He sends all kinds of disasters to wreak his vengeance. Look at hurricanes - okay, bad example; Bush was responsible for Katrina, but Camille - definitely god's doing. Got to keep us sinners on our toes.

Those that don't know god or have forsaken him have to be dispatched - straight to hell. Ticket punched on that long black train.

And I take exception to calling those that are spreading the word of god "fanatics". Not fanatics: "saints".
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Originally posted by Xena68:



If you think "God" sent the terrorists, and the terrorists say "Allah" sent them, then you must believe in "Allah", nice to know you're on the same page with the terrorists religion.


Hmmmmmm...... interesting logic. If I believe one thing, and someone else believes another, then I must believe the other?

If you don't believe that god has a hand in everything, then you aren't much of a believer, are you? Oh, and you do know that Allah is just another name for God, right? Just like Yahweh, Jehovah, Elohim, and Immanuel?

I have it on the highest authority - Pat Robertson among others - that god did indeed send the terrorists. He also is responsible for aids: it's a punishment for those living the homosexual lifestyle.
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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Xena68:



If you think "God" sent the terrorists, and the terrorists say "Allah" sent them, then you must believe in "Allah", nice to know you're on the same page with the terrorists religion.


Hmmmmmm...... interesting logic. If I believe one thing, and someone else believes another, then I must believe the other?

If you don't believe that god has a hand in everything, then you aren't much of a believer, are you? Oh, and you do know that Allah is just another name for God, right? Just like Yahweh, Jehovah, Elohim, and Immanuel?

I have it on the highest authority - Pat Robertson among others - that god did indeed send the terrorists. He also is responsible for aids: it's a punishment for those living the homosexual lifestyle.[/QUOTE

so if god/allah sent the terrorists and you worship this god/allah/ whoever then you are approving of terrorists which makes you un-american. And I thought god was the supposed to be the highest authority yet you think Pat Robertson is the highest? that is blasphemy, he is a mortal human doing what he calls gods work, but then again so was Jim Baker, and Oral Roberts, Priests abusing lil boys, so called pastors and men of god going to strip clubs and having porn in their desks.Like everyone else in any kind power its about lies, conspiracy, secrets, money, and do as i say not as i do.
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Originally posted by Xena68:
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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
Crusty.. you are a misguided soul my friend... Only thing I'm gonna say, though I'm sure you don't care and will never change your hardened opinion... God does not interfere in our lives... God does not intervene on our lives. God doesn't kill anyone. God doesn't protect anyone. We just move along in our lives and deal with only the consequences of our decisions most of the time, and unfortunately must deal with the consequences of other folks decisions the rest. Then random sickness fills in the holes. Remember.. Sickness did not exist until sin... and sickness will never go away until also does sin.
When you come to that realization your bitterness will subside.


Ah, Peter, another misguided soul bound for hell. God doesn't interfere in our lives? Blasphemy, sheer unadulterated blasphemy. Look around, man. God sent the 9/11 terrorists to punish the sinners of Sodam and Gomorahh New York and Washington, because of their sinful ways.

He cures disease daily to all who pray. And you are right, until that harlot Eve set Adam on the wrong path, there was no disease. Now it is all over the place, and it is punishment for one's wrongdoing.

Get with the program, man.




If you think "God" sent the terrorists, and the terrorists say "Allah" sent them, then you must believe in "Allah", nice to know you're on the same page with the terrorists religion.


jesus spoke aramaic, the aramaic word for god is alah, so if jesus considers allah god why cant you?
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Originally posted by Xena68:

so if god/allah sent the terrorists and you worship this god/allah/ whoever then you are approving of terrorists which makes you un-american. And I thought god was the supposed to be the highest authority yet you think Pat Robertson is the highest? that is blasphemy, he is a mortal human doing what he calls gods work, but then again so was Jim Baker, and Oral Roberts, Priests abusing lil boys, so called pastors and men of god going to strip clubs and having porn in their desks.Like everyone else in any kind power its about lies, conspiracy, secrets, money, and do as i say not as i do.


correct
If you like it or not, if you want to fight truth, I have truth about the American Indians, they are of the house of Israel and their WRITTEN HISTORY is today called THE BOOK OF MORMON ANOTHER TESTIMENT OF JESUS CHRIST I will not debate this fact because 95% of you in here have never read it, and think you know all about it. I have read it from cover to cover and followed the Bibles teachings in JAMES 1:5 and by the power of the Holy Ghost,have found out that it is a true account of a prophets journey from Jerusalem, being led by the Lord, away from Jerusalem,with his family, just before it was destroyed.
Don't knock what you haven't read from cover to cover and then sincerely asked God in prayer to show you the truthfulness of it. For a FREE copy of the book go to my blog at http://cherokeesrealcobra.blogspot.com and contact me. Get a copy and read it for entertainment if for no other reason. My email address and phone number are in some of the posts.
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YOU ARE SPOT ON IN A LOT OF YOUR THINKING! !!!Go read my blog now, it will put your heart at rest about the Indians, God's children. http://cherokeesrealcobra.blogspot.com

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Originally posted by Xena68:
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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
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Originally posted by Kraven:
What is going to happen to the pre-plymouth rock Indians?
They weren't Christians. They weren't baptized.
Where are their souls now???


Isn't obvious? Because they were Godless Savages, Good Christians like the Pilgrims and other early settlers took their lands and moved them to the reservation. Even earlier than that, the Spanish and Portuguese managed to wipe out the Godless Mayan,Aztec, and other civilizations in South America.

God sent disease and famine and his followers to do His bidding. Any that converted to Christianity were spared the Wrath of God and allowed to prosper, sort of, as long as they married into God's Spanish or Portuguese family. The rest were left in the jungle or made to work in Nike sweat shops.

God rewards his followers, and strikes down his enemies. So obviously, these Godless Savages now reside in hell.
I am apalled at your blindness, "God" supposedly created everything and everyone, so wouldn't that mean the pre-shoved down your throat religion, Natives are His also? Therefor they would be in heaven if there is one. And probably in higher status than two-faced lying fanatics who shove their beliefs in peoples faces without a care to their free will. I would think "God" would love everything he created not just the Godbot followers.
Wrong answer Buffalo, this has nothing to do with Mormons, no one said anything about Mormons, you OBVIOUSLY have not read the book nor have you followed JAMES 1:5
get a free copy of it, read it ,Pray about it's truthfulness, ,then we can talk, otherwise, there is no basis for a conversation on something you have never read.
nuff said And that simple.
Nope, I mentioned the Book of Mormon Another Testiment of JESUS CHRIST. I mentioned the BOOK. Said nothing about the Mormons as a people. Talkin bout a book here!


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Originally posted by Jankinonya:
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Originally posted by C.O.B.R.A.:
Wrong answer Buffalo, this has nothing to do with Mormons, no one said anything about Mormons,


Uh...you did? Roll Eyes

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