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From his dissent in today's same-sex marriage case:

 

"The five Justices who compose today’s majority are entirely comfortable concluding that every State violated the Constitution for all of the 135 years between the Fourteenth Amendment’s ratification and Massachusetts’ permitting of same-sex marriages in 2003. They have discovered in the Fourteenth Amendment a 'fundamental right' overlooked by every person alive at the time of ratification, and almost everyone else in the time since. They see what lesser legal minds— minds like Thomas Cooley, John Marshall Harlan, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., Learned Hand, Louis Brandeis, William Howard Taft, Benjamin Cardozo, Hugo Black, Felix Frankfurter, Robert Jackson, and Henry Friendly— could not. They are certain that the People ratified the Fourteenth Amendment to bestow on them the power to remove questions from the democratic process when that is called for by their “reasoned judgment.

 

"These Justices know that limiting marriage to one man and one woman is contrary to reason; they know that an institution as old as government itself, and accepted by every nation in history until 15 years ago, cannot possibly be supported by anything other than ignorance or bigotry. And they are willing to say that any citizen who does not agree with that, who adheres to what was, until 15 years ago, the unanimous judgment of all generations and all societies, stands against the Constitution. "

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The Supreme Court or anyone else can pass whatever laws they want. I am a Christian and God's word says that marriage is between a man and a woman. So, pass a law that says same sex marriage is alright, but to God and those who serve Him it is still a sin, always has been, always will be. I would sure hate to stand before God and tell Him I had anything to do with passing that law. I know some says there is no God and that's your privilege to do so. That does not change Gods word either. He plainly says everyone will confess His name and every knee will bow. Sounds like we all need to do some soul searching and make sure we are right in the site of God. I am not concerned if the passing of this law will affect me, because I am not going to participate in it in any way. I am concerned how disappointed God must be. We need to be passing laws that will bring us closer to God not push us away. This is the way I feel about it, and I am not alone. If you disagree, that's your privilege. Everyone will be responsible for their own actions.

From what I've seen the Supreme Court has taken a government granted privilege and elevated it to a natural or God given right depending on ones belief in a creator. A parent's job is going to be made more difficult in 'splaining things to the young'uns when other former perversions become mainstream. Better invest in blinders for the chil'ens!

How is this more scandalous than the things the little 'chil'ens' are exposed to right now? My gosh, there was enough to be worried about when my kids were little, but if they were small now days I'd be way more worried about 'twerking', the women walking around almost naked, commercials with people practically having sex, commercials with women simulating sex with the food they're advertising, with orgasmic looks on their faces, and their eyes rolling back in their heads. Men like that stuff. How many men like the idea of woman with woman, and how many will pay to see that? When a female teacher molests a young male student, we have all heard some man say that she is smoking hot and oh my goodness where was she when they were in school, and have seen men around him grin and agree. Men that have a hatred for gay men will claim that if they hadn't had their guns they'd have been raped in the park or men's room because apparently there are homosexuals behind every bush and they all want the straight men who are disgusted by gays. I guess it's like they say cats go up to people that don't like cats.  With all the debauchery going on right now, and looking as if it's only going to get worse until radical islam takes us over, gay people entering into contracts with each other is the least of my worries.

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Originally Posted by Bestworking:

How is this more scandalous than the things the little 'chil'ens' are exposed to right now? My gosh, there was enough to be worried about when my kids were little, but if they were small now days I'd be way more worried about 'twerking', the women walking around almost naked, commercials with people practically having sex, commercials with women simulating sex with the food they're advertising, with orgasmic looks on their faces, and their eyes rolling back in their heads. Men like that stuff. How many men like the idea of woman with woman, and how many will pay to see that? When a female teacher molests a young male student, we have all heard some man say that she is smoking hot and oh my goodness where was she when they were in school, and have seen men around him grin and agree. Men that have a hatred for gay men will claim that if they hadn't had their guns they'd have been raped in the park or men's room because apparently there are homosexuals behind every bush and they all want the straight men who are disgusted by gays. I guess it's like they say cats go up to people that don't like cats.  With all the debauchery going on right now, and looking as if it's only going to get worse until radical islam takes us over, gay people entering into contracts with each other is the least of my worries.

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Ah, but we live in the Obama era. Just wait for the inflatable wives and interspecies marraiges. If I lived in the city, I could just sit outside in a lounge chair with a cooler of beer and be entertained.

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Originally Posted by Bestworking:

How is this more scandalous than the things the little 'chil'ens' are exposed to right now? My gosh, there was enough to be worried about when my kids were little, but if they were small now days I'd be way more worried about 'twerking', the women walking around almost naked, commercials with people practically having sex, commercials with women simulating sex with the food they're advertising, with orgasmic looks on their faces, and their eyes rolling back in their heads. Men like that stuff. How many men like the idea of woman with woman, and how many will pay to see that? When a female teacher molests a young male student, we have all heard some man say that she is smoking hot and oh my goodness where was she when they were in school, and have seen men around him grin and agree. Men that have a hatred for gay men will claim that if they hadn't had their guns they'd have been raped in the park or men's room because apparently there are homosexuals behind every bush and they all want the straight men who are disgusted by gays. I guess it's like they say cats go up to people that don't like cats.  With all the debauchery going on right now, and looking as if it's only going to get worse until radical islam takes us over, gay people entering into contracts with each other is the least of my worries.

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Go watch a big city "gay pride" parade and see some really major league debauchery, Best.

You really need to get out more.

 

And as you mull the values and virtues of same sex "marriage," consider these statistics on homosexual promiscuity and  fidelity among same-sex male "couples"::

 

Statistics on sexual promiscuity among homosexuals

by Matt Slick

  1. Promiscuity
    1. 28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners:  "Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners. Bell and Weinberg p 308." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
    2. 79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers: "The survey showed 79% of the respondents saying that over half of their sexual partners were strangers. Seventy percent said that over half of their sexual partners were people with whom they had sex only once. Bell and Weinberg pp.308-309."  (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
    3. Modal range for homosexual sex partners 101-500: "In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al. found that "the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101–500." In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than 1000 lifetime sexual partners. Paul Van de Ven et al., "A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men," Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354."  (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
    4. 1978 study, 78% of gay men ad more than 100 partners, 28% more than 1000: "A far-ranging study of homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250-499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners. By 1984, after the AIDS epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having about 4 partners per month in 1984." (catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html)
    5. There is an extremely low rate of sexual fidelity among homosexual men as compared to married heterosexuals.  Among married females 85% reported sexual fidelity. Among married men, 75.5% reported sexual fidelity. Among homosexual males in their current relationship, 4.5% reported sexual fidelity. (Sources:Laumann, The Social Organization of Sexuality, 216; McWhirter and Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (1984): 252-253; Wiederman, "Extramarital Sex," 170.  This is extracted from http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02)

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Check it out:

Sources:Laumann, The Social Organization of Sexuality, 216; McWhirter and Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (1984): 252-253; Wiederman, "Extramarital Sex," 170.

Beternnun, it does not matter. IF there were no gay people in the world there would still be more than enough debauchery to last us a lifetime. I get out plenty beternnun, but I don't go to gay pride parades. Why do you if it upsets you so? Why do you care how many partners they have, or their diseases? Do you rant at prostitutes and their customers, and 'loose women' and men who snake around on their mates, about their sexual behavior?

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

See, someone sitting outside drinking beer might offend some people. They might not want their kids to see that.

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Considering the way my body handles carbonation, there might be some auditory offensive behavior as well. At least I can serve as a great example of a bad example. I don't do the usual city pastimes like smoking weed or snorting coke, so I guess I would be the freak.

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I looked and looked but it's hard to find a mardi gras picture of straight people that is 'fit' to show. Below are two little girls, smiling and in the middle of this debauchery. Below that is a pic of a woman getting ready to bare her chest for some plastic beads. There are other pictures of women baring their ******* with men gathered around and sticking their heads in their boobs. There are pictures of women baring their ******* in front of children. ALL smiling. But to you, it's the gay pride parades that are the scandal. Too we can discuss spring break again, if you wish.

 

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Originally Posted by Bestworking:

 

rls, smiling and in the middle of this debauchery. Below that is a pic of a woman getting ready to bare her chest for some plastic beads. There are other pictures of women baring their ******* with men gathered around and sticking their heads in their boobs. There are pictures of women baring their ******* in front of children. ALL smiling. But to you, it's the gay pride parades that are the scandal. Too we can discuss spring break again, if you wish.

 

 

Try a little "Southern Decadence," where the New Orleans perverts really strutt their stuff:  

http://www.southerndecadence.net/pictures.htm

 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Contendahh:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

 

rls, smiling and in the middle of this debauchery. Below that is a pic of a woman getting ready to bare her chest for some plastic beads. There are other pictures of women baring their ******* with men gathered around and sticking their heads in their boobs. There are pictures of women baring their ******* in front of children. ALL smiling. But to you, it's the gay pride parades that are the scandal. Too we can discuss spring break again, if you wish.

 

 

Try a little "Southern Decadence," where the New Orleans perverts really strut their stuff:  

http://www.southerndecadence.net/pictures.htm

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Contendahh:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

 

rls, smiling and in the middle of this debauchery. Below that is a pic of a woman getting ready to bare her chest for some plastic beads. There are other pictures of women baring their ******* with men gathered around and sticking their heads in their boobs. There are pictures of women baring their ******* in front of children. ALL smiling. But to you, it's the gay pride parades that are the scandal. Too we can discuss spring break again, if you wish.

 

 

Try a little "Southern Decadence," where the New Orleans perverts really strutt their stuff:  

http://www.southerndecadence.net/pictures.htm

 

 

 

 

 

 

 At least you can post these pics. Try full frontal nudity in front of everybody, children included boobs hanging out with a man's head 'motorboating' them. Your pics are mild, especially compared to those. The only problem you have with them is the men are gay. PLEASE tell me why they are perverts and the women showing their bodies for freaking beer and plastic beads aren't perverts.

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Originally Posted by direstraits:

As I once mentioned, the Gay Pride parade flounced by our offices annually in Atlanta. Dammed if I saw much to be proud of. However, they were entertaining.  But, I made certain our kids were far away.

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Same anywhere dire. Mardi gras or anywhere. One old gal way past her prime half naked with sagging old boobs hanging out. Imagine some kid seeing that old grandma with the men all over her. But, she's not a pervert.

Bestworking blithers:

 

"At least you can post these pics. Try full frontal nudity in front of everybody, children included boobs hanging out with a man's head 'motorboating' them. Your pics are mild, especially compared to those. The only problem you have with them is the men are gay. PLEASE tell me why they are perverts and the women showing their bodies for freaking beer and plastic beads aren't perverts."

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I posted those particular photos because disgusting as they were,  they were sufficiently mild as not to violate forum rules.  I could have posted much more graphic and disgusting stuff. I don't know where you found the pictures you described, but I most certainly object to that kind of stuff as well and it does not in any way justify or rationalize the gross and indecent behavior seen in many "gay pride" parades and demonstrations. Wake up and clean up your obscurantist, dishonest attitude!

Originally Posted by Contendahh:

Bestworking blithers:

 

"At least you can post these pics. Try full frontal nudity in front of everybody, children included boobs hanging out with a man's head 'motorboating' them. Your pics are mild, especially compared to those. The only problem you have with them is the men are gay. PLEASE tell me why they are perverts and the women showing their bodies for freaking beer and plastic beads aren't perverts."

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I posted those particular photos because disgusting as they were,  they were sufficiently mild as not to violate forum rules.  I could have posted much more graphic and disgusting stuff. I don't know where you found the pictures you described, but I most certainly object to that kind of stuff as well and it does not in any way justify or rationalize the gross and indecent behavior seen in many "gay pride" parades and demonstrations. Wake up and clean up your obscurantist, dishonest attitude!

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Condie, those pictures are the result of you progressives, 

Welcome to the brave, new world of the extreme left under the Democrats. The future will be that and more, as long as it lasts.

Originally Posted by Contendahh:

 

From his dissent in today's same-sex marriage case:

 

"The five Justices who compose today’s majority are entirely comfortable concluding that every State violated the Constitution for all of the 135 years between the Fourteenth Amendment’s ratification and Massachusetts’ permitting of same-sex marriages in 2003. They have discovered in the Fourteenth Amendment a 'fundamental right' overlooked by every person alive at the time of ratification, and almost everyone else in the time since. They see what lesser legal minds— minds like Thomas Cooley, John Marshall Harlan, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., Learned Hand, Louis Brandeis, William Howard Taft, Benjamin Cardozo, Hugo Black, Felix Frankfurter, Robert Jackson, and Henry Friendly— could not. They are certain that the People ratified the Fourteenth Amendment to bestow on them the power to remove questions from the democratic process when that is called for by their “reasoned judgment.

 

"These Justices know that limiting marriage to one man and one woman is contrary to reason; they know that an institution as old as government itself, and accepted by every nation in history until 15 years ago, cannot possibly be supported by anything other than ignorance or bigotry. And they are willing to say that any citizen who does not agree with that, who adheres to what was, until 15 years ago, the unanimous judgment of all generations and all societies, stands against the Constitution. "

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Wut?  He contradicts himself.

Originally Posted by Old American:

The Supreme Court or anyone else can pass whatever laws they want. I am a Christian and God's word says that marriage is between a man and a woman. So, pass a law that says same sex marriage is alright, but to God and those who serve Him it is still a sin, always has been, always will be. I would sure hate to stand before God and tell Him I had anything to do with passing that law. I know some says there is no God and that's your privilege to do so. That does not change Gods word either. He plainly says everyone will confess His name and every knee will bow. Sounds like we all need to do some soul searching and make sure we are right in the site of God. I am not concerned if the passing of this law will affect me, because I am not going to participate in it in any way. I am concerned how disappointed God must be. We need to be passing laws that will bring us closer to God not push us away. This is the way I feel about it, and I am not alone. If you disagree, that's your privilege. Everyone will be responsible for their own actions.

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According to the Bible, this is God's will.

 

Romans 13:1-2 is one of several passages in Scripture that refers to the importance of believers honoring governmental authority in general: "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves." (NIV)

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by direstraits:

As I once mentioned, the Gay Pride parade flounced by our offices annually in Atlanta. Dammed if I saw much to be proud of. However, they were entertaining.  But, I made certain our kids were far away.

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Same anywhere dire. Mardi gras or anywhere. One old gal way past her prime half naked with sagging old boobs hanging out. Imagine some kid seeing that old grandma with the men all over her. But, she's not a pervert.

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The old guys in my neighborhood mowing their lawns every summer without their shirts on are just as bad.  Just sayin'.

Originally Posted by Contendahh:

Bestworking blithers:

 

"At least you can post these pics. Try full frontal nudity in front of everybody, children included boobs hanging out with a man's head 'motorboating' them. Your pics are mild, especially compared to those. The only problem you have with them is the men are gay. PLEASE tell me why they are perverts and the women showing their bodies for freaking beer and plastic beads aren't perverts."

_________________

I posted those particular photos because disgusting as they were,  they were sufficiently mild as not to violate forum rules.  I could have posted much more graphic and disgusting stuff. I don't know where you found the pictures you described, but I most certainly object to that kind of stuff as well and it does not in any way justify or rationalize the gross and indecent behavior seen in many "gay pride" parades and demonstrations. Wake up and clean up your obscurantist, dishonest attitude!

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Dishonest obscurantist attitude? Oh brother! You don't think anyone should have a different opinion? The pictures I got were pictures people took and posted online after mardi gras. Did you see how proud those women were to be flashing their boobs for a string of plastic beads? I'm sure their parents must be proud. As posted over and over, so what that they act nasty at gay pride parades? Straight people get just as nasty or nastier at so called 'straight parades'. Yes, people like you are always quick to say that bad behavior by straights upsets you too, but for some reason it's never that bad behavior you complain about or make threads about. Too, all the stuff that goes on at spring break and the only mention of anything about it is the rape. Who's surprised that in an atmosphere of anything goes, drunken naked teens, open displays of sexual activity and such 'debauchery', a woman is raped and people just ignore it? They don't know if it's rape or another public sexual act. The same goes for mardi gras and anywhere people gather and act like animals. Would you do away with mardi gras, spring break, sturgis, etc?

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