Hi to my Forum Friends,

How would you feel if your young child came home and told you that the public school bus driver had lectured her about gay marriage and told one of her classmates, about her, "She is a stupid little bigot!" And, she told the classmate, "I will eat her alive!"

Then, the bus driver told the students that anyone who does not agree with her, in her words, "Belongs in a parochial church school" -- and, when she said "church" she spit it out like she had rotten food in her mouth.

Do you feel that this school bus driver was right to do this to young children riding on her bus?

This is what has happened on a public school bus in Indiana -- and, when the parents, educated professional people, complained to the school district -- they were told that the driver was well within the scope of her employment contract.

Do you think this is right?

Watch this video and judge for yourself. Then, ask yourself how you would feel if this were your daughter or granddaughter.

Then, try and tell me that the gay community does not have an agenda in our public schools. God has been evicted from our public schools -- but, the gay agenda is alive and well -- even on the school bus riding to and from school.

If our children are not safe from this kind of indoctrination, even on the school bus -- where are they safe? Who is next to teach the gay agenda to our children -- the school janitor? And, is this defined in the scope of his job also?

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God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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The bus driver was wrong to be preaching anything to the school kids, even Christianity.

She should be fired for her treatment of the students.
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Originally posted by StarryNight:
Enough with the gay hate Bill. Your insecurities are showing.

Hi Night,

Far from gay hate -- my feelings, and my reason for posting this is to PROTECT OUR CHILDREN.

If you can say that you believe this bus driver is right in what she did and what she said to these young children -- then, my Friend, you DO have a problem.

I don't know if you are gay or not -- but, protecting our children comes before your rights, my rights, or anyone's rights.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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The bus driver was wrong to be preaching anything to the school kids, even Christianity.

She should be fired for her treatment of the students.

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
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Originally posted by StarryNight:
Enough with the gay hate Bill. Your insecurities are showing.

Hi Night,

Far from gay hate -- my feelings, and my reason for posting this is to PROTECT OUR CHILDREN.

If you can say that you believe this bus driver is right in what she did and what she said to these young children -- then, my Friend, you DO have a problem.

I don't know if you are gay or not -- but, protecting our children comes before your rights, my rights, or anyone's rights.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill


Bill, I didn't click on the link. What I find interesting is that you go to great lengths to post videos and topics that make gay people look bad. Every post you have put up this week has an anti-gay slant. Sure you say that you are not a gay hater but if that is true, I would like to see you post a story or a video about a gay person who is doing good in our society. It should not be that difficult - there are far more gays who are admirable in our society than the types you depict.

As a past researcher for a psychologist, I have found that such behavior is indicative of someone who either has something to hide or is highly sensitive and uncomfortable with their sexuality.
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Originally posted by StarryNight:
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
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Originally posted by StarryNight:
Enough with the gay hate Bill. Your insecurities are showing.

Hi Night,

Far from gay hate -- my feelings, and my reason for posting this is to PROTECT OUR CHILDREN.

If you can say that you believe this bus driver is right in what she did and what she said to these young children -- then, my Friend, you DO have a problem.

I don't know if you are gay or not -- but, protecting our children comes before your rights, my rights, or anyone's rights.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Bill, I didn't click on the link. What I find interesting is that you go to great lengths to post videos and topics that make gay people look bad. Every post you have put up this week has an anti-gay slant. Sure you say that you are not a gay hater but if that is true, I would like to see you post a story or a video about a gay person who is doing good in our society. It should not be that difficult - there are far more gays who are admirable in our society than the types you depict.

As a past researcher for a psychologist, I have found that such behavior is indicative of someone who either has something to hide or is highly sensitive and uncomfortable with their sexuality.

Hi Night,

The point of this video and of my post is NOT about gays. The main point is the abusive action of this school bus driver. I could care less if she were a bob tail monkey -- she had no right to abuse those children like that.

And, she had NO RIGHT to attempt to indoctrinate those children in her gay lifestyle. Riding the bus to school should be a safe time for our children -- not an indoctrination school.

This woman, regardless of her lifestyle -- WAS WRONG AND SHOULD BE FIRED.

Children are a blessing from God -- and should be PROTECTED at all times -- physically and spiritually.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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And, she had NO RIGHT to attempt to indoctrinate those children in her gay lifestyle. Riding the bus to school should be a safe time for our children -- not an indoctrination school.


Bill would you have had a problem if this person was preaching Christianity?
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As a past researcher for a psychologist, I have found that such behavior is indicative of someone who either has something to hide or is highly sensitive and uncomfortable with their sexuality.




Not much of a researcher. You left out people that just plain dislike sexual perverts!
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And, she had NO RIGHT to attempt to indoctrinate those children in her gay lifestyle. Riding the bus to school should be a safe time for our children -- not an indoctrination school.

Bill would you have had a problem if this person was preaching Christianity?

Hi VP,

Yes! For it is not her place to teach the children anything. As the girl's dad said, "Her job was to put her foot on the peddle and drive the children to school and home again." She is not, or should not have been, hired to be a teacher.

And, her abusive approach is what most offends me. That, plus the fact that, after dropping off the other children -- she went back to the home of those two little girls, took them on board her bus -- and berated them.

If I were the father -- I would have had her arrested for kidnapping when she took them back on that bus when the purpose was not to drive them home or to school -- but, to punish, berate, and indoctrinate those young children.

Yes, this woman was totally wrong and should be fired -- and then charged with kidnapping and child abuse.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

The point of this video and of my post is NOT about gays. The main point is the abusive action of this school bus driver.


Bill,

I have to disagree with you there. You titled the post "School Bus Driver Preaches Gay Agenda To Young Children On School Bus - Video" How can you say the post is not about gays when you state that in the heading? Now if you stated School Bus Driver Preaches Personal Agenda..... then I would believe you.
I agree. Something tells me that if this busdriver was teaching them the Gospel, BG would commend the driver for being a good shepherd.
StarryNight and anyone, really, would you consider it possible to disapprove of behavior, lifestyle, or choices made by people without hating the individuals? I am new to this forum, but I have not seen anything indicative of hatred towards gays. As for bias everyone has it, so it might as well be upfront as hidden under the cloak of "objectivity." Of course balance is good; but should balance require you support causes with which you disagree?
Personally, I must say that anyone living in adultery, homosexuality, fornication, greed,hatred, is living in sin. I know some people like this. I don't hate them, I hate that they are so mislead or stubborn (in different cases), but I have compassion for them because they are suffering and may end in permanent ****ation if he does not repent (in a particular case). I do not approve sin when I recognize it, but neither can hate the people when the One who saved me and continues to work His perfection in me died to save them as well.
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
The point of this video and of my post is NOT about gays. The main point is the abusive action of this school bus driver.

Bill,

I have to disagree with you there. You titled the post "School Bus Driver Preaches Gay Agenda To Young Children On School Bus - Video" How can you say the post is not about gays when you state that in the heading? Now if you stated School Bus Driver Preaches Personal Agenda..... then I would believe you.

Hi Flo,

It would seem that since you WANT my post to be about GAYs, you jumped right over the word PREACH and proceeded to GAY. My point, again, is that this school bus driver should not be preaching or teaching these children anything. She has a license to drive -- not to TEACH.

And, the fact that she came back to the home of these two young girls and took them back into her bus to PREACH to them again -- is very abusive. And, for that, if I would the father I would have filed charges against her.

I cannot see why the school district will not discipline her.

So, Flo, you jump to whatever word you want to be YOUR focus -- I KNOW my motive for writing this post -- unnecessary and abusive action toward young children.

And, VP, you are like the play ground coward who stands behind the bully who is abusing another -- urging him on -- "Yeah! Hit him again! Kick him!" I am sorry if I cannot believe that your Mary is the Mother of God -- but, if you will notice, Mary is not mentioned in this discussion; until now.

Once again, Flo, children are a blessing from God. He has made us stewards over the children He has given us -- that we should care for them and protect them -- physically and spiritually.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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And, VP, you are like the play ground coward who stands behind the bully who is abusing another -- urging him on -- "Yeah! Hit him again! Kick him!" I am sorry if I cannot believe that your Mary is the Mother of God -- but, if you will notice, Mary is not mentioned in this discussion; until now.


This discussion has absolutely nothing to do with Mary. I seem to be missing your point.
And, no, I am not standing behind anyone, Bill. I stand alone, for myself, and call intolerance and lies out when I see them. And I see them an awful lot.
But, notably, I really only see it from you. Hmmm...do you think perhaps you should broaden your scope a bit?
Now, this busdriver is clearly in the wrong. But the fact that you are so jaded in your homophobia/intolerance does not let the reader see the big picture. To the observer, it is just yet another rant on homosexuality....
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And, VP, you are like the play ground coward who stands behind the bully who is abusing another -- urging him on -- "Yeah! Hit him again! Kick him!" I am sorry if I cannot believe that your Mary is the Mother of God -- but, if you will notice, Mary is not mentioned in this discussion; until now.

This discussion has absolutely nothing to do with Mary. I seem to be missing your point.
And, no, I am not standing behind anyone, Bill. I stand alone, for myself, and call intolerance and lies out when I see them. And I see them an awful lot. But, notably, I really only see it from you. Hmmm...do you think perhaps you should broaden your scope a bit? Now, this busdriver is clearly in the wrong. But the fact that you are so jaded in your homophobia/intolerance does not let the reader see the big picture. To the observer, it is just yet another rant on homosexuality....

Hi VP,

True, Mary was not mentioned in this discussion; but, can you deny that the reason you continue to troll me is because I have denied that Mary is the Mother of God, that Mary was sinless, and that we should be worshiping Mary like you do?

Yes, you will throw every rock you can find at me -- but, usually from behind another -- because I deny your Mary and your pope.

I am not telling you to not worship Mary and the pope -- just do not expect us to follow suit.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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No, my problem with you is not that you don't believe that Mary is the Mother of God.
It is that you continue to perpetuate lies and misconceptions about the church.
I have told you repeatedly, that no, we do not worship Mary, statues, etc.
You continue to stab away, using these same words. You continue to state that you are experienced (20 years) in the Church, but never heard the Gospel. Yet another lie. It's a well known, and stated several times fact that the Gospel is proclaimed at EVERY Mass.
You take the bible literally, yet refute and blaspheme the literal words of the Last Supper.
You refuse to acknowledge that there are Sacred Traditions, oral teachings. You call people that take part in the Eucharist "cannibals".
You have no reverence for the Saints, as you said you think we all will become Saints.
You have no tolerance to gays, liberals, or anyone who does not buy in to your extreme right fundamentalist views. Your "once saved, always saved" opinion is contradictory to what Jesus tells us. Yet, it gives you warm fuzzies, so you harp on it.
You continue to say that Catholics "removed" a commandment. You continue to state that Catholics worship statues. And my favorite, was the post in which you stated that all Catholics will eventually leave their Church when they become Christians.
You are so full of intolerance and disdain that you are actually the anti-thesis of what a Christian should be.
And that, Sir, is why I will continue to refute your nonsense.
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
My point, again, is that this school bus driver should not be preaching or teaching these children anything. She has a license to drive -- not to TEACH.




All this feelgood Politically Correct BS aside-Much as I dislike mid-life god-zombies, I have to agree 100% with this particular statement Bill made.

Having been a school bus driver for the past 25 years, that driver's conduct in my opinion is completely unprofessional.
Where I come from that driver would likely be charged with "impairing the morals of a minor."
There was a driver where I used to work who was of that particular orientation who it was found had been purposely discussing and promoting his lifestyle to the students on his bus. Lucky for him the Board of Ed got wind of it first and he was terminated.
Most of us drivers-male and female alike would've probably had a discussion of the very up-close and personal kind with that driver somewhere off company property and convinced him that it would be a very bad idea to continue working there and behaving that way.

While I'm not necessarily homophobic-I don't care what you do as long as it doesn't directly affect me in a bad way-I have to draw the line when it comes to children.

I don't really give a rat's patootie what's currently acceptable-

YOU......DON'T......MESS.....WITH KIDS.
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Hi Night,

The point of this video and of my post is NOT about gays.


Bill, again, you're an idiot. That being said, anyone who even rarely reads these forums would agree you are a gay basher. Why? Here's some evidence....of course, we all know you will completely ignore evidence and go on believing your fairytales, which is fine. It's also why you're a typical southern idiot.

In closing, let me ask you this. Have you seen the movie "American Beauty"? If not, I suggest you give it a look. You're Ricky's father next door -- a gay bashing closet homosexual. Ironic isn't it?

School Bus Driver Preaches Gay Agenda To Young Children On School Bus - Video
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...771054867/m/27510809

Obama Denies DAY Of Prayer -- Blesses MONTH Of Gay Recognition!
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...771054867/m/69910598

Gays In The Military - Right Or Wrong - Good Or Bad Idea?
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...771054867/m/27610309

Are Folks Born Gay? - And Do Morals Save Us?
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...771054867/m/73310897

Could I Have Chosen To Be Homosexual?
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...771054867/m/10810108
The "American Beauty" character is a good example.

I always think of Fred Phelps when thinking of Bill Gray - I can see them as being big buddies.

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Hi Night, The point of this video and of my post is NOT about gays.

Bill, again, you're an idiot. That being said, anyone who even rarely reads these forums would agree you are a gay basher. Why? Here's some evidence....of course, we all know you will completely ignore evidence and go on believing your fairytales, which is fine. It's also why you're a typical southern idiot.

School Bus Driver Preaches Gay Agenda To Young Children On School Bus - Video
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...771054867/m/27510809

Obama Denies DAY Of Prayer -- Blesses MONTH Of Gay Recognition!
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...771054867/m/69910598

Gays In The Military - Right Or Wrong - Good Or Bad Idea?
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...771054867/m/27610309

Are Folks Born Gay? - And Do Morals Save Us?
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...771054867/m/73310897

Could I Have Chosen To Be Homosexual?
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...771054867/m/10810108

Hi Dustin,

You say I am a Southern Idiot -- for the Southern part, I thank you -- for it is an honor and a blessing to be a Southerner.

For the Idiot part -- we will just consider the source.

Regarding those posts of mine which discuss the Gay issue -- you will not find a single incident of Gay Bashing in any of them.

But, of course, since we have to assume from your posts that you are Gay -- to you, anyone sharing the Biblical view of the homosexual lifestyle -- is bashing.

Based upon that -- in your view: GOD IS A GAY BASHER!

Not a problem, think as you will. And, I promise not to sink to your level and call you names.

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But, of course, since we have to assume from your posts that you are Gay -- to you, anyone sharing the Biblical view of the homosexual lifestyle -- is bashing.


Bill,

No, I am not gay. But if I was, I would have no problem with it. You need to come to the same understanding with your own sexuality -- there is nothing wrong with you being gay, Bill. It's how you were born and it's who you are. It's ok. Preaching anti-gay nonsense does not make you any less gay in the eyes of the magical man whom you believe is watching you at all times. You are AFRAID of that make-believe man, you are scared he is going to burn you in hell forever because you are gay. "HE" DOESN'T EXIST, BILL. IT'S OK. Stop trying to prove to "him" that you're not gay. Because first of all, "he" does not exist. And second of all, you're gay, Bill, and that's that. NOW GO LIVE YOUR LIFE AND STOP BEING SO SCARED ALL THE TIME.

Dustin
Of course both Bill and WH are gay closet cases. I've long suspected that. Every time the word is mentioned, they obsess over it for weeks. It is their favorite subject!
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CHECK IT OUT! - "All Have Sinned! - Are All Sins Equal?"


So you are admitting to yourself that you're gay?

Or, to put it another way, are you admitting to yourself that you have homosexual thoughts? That makes you a homosexual Bill. Straight people do not have gay thoughts. It's not a battle they have to fight with themselves, unlike you and your whole life experience.

YOU ARE GAY. Now move on with your life.

Dustin
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CHECK IT OUT! - "All Have Sinned! - Are All Sins Equal?"


So you are admitting to yourself that you're gay?

Or, to put it another way, are you admitting to yourself that you have homosexual thoughts? That makes you a homosexual Bill. Straight people do not have gay thoughts. It's not a battle they have to fight with themselves, unlike you and your whole life experience.

YOU ARE GAY. Now move on with your life.

Dustin



Sounds like you are fighting yourself. I believe you know what you do is wrong. You try to justify by using childish arguments. No dusty, everyone is not homosexual. You should quit before you get aids or anal warts... or something even worse.
WH,

Dustin did not say everyone is homosexual. He said Bill is.

Let's face it, some people are obsessed with the issue of homosexuality, others are not. I, for example, am not, but this topic has demanded a response.

Who is obsessed with homosexuality? Straight people? Not.

Do the math.
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CHECK IT OUT! - "All Have Sinned! - Are All Sins Equal?"

So you are admitting to yourself that you're gay? Dustin

Hi Dustin,

Not that I would question your intelligence, or lack thereof -- but, please explain to me and the good folks on the Forum how that statement tells us anything except exactly what it says: All sins are equal in the eyes of God.

My Friend, you are really making yourself look silly, illiterate, or uneducated -- or all of the above.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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My Friend, you are really making yourself look silly, illiterate, or uneducated -- or all of the above.



Uh. Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle.
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My Friend, you are really making yourself look silly, illiterate, or uneducated -- or all of the above.

Uh. Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle.

Puppy, my Friend,

Are you trying to make people believe that you are Dustin by being just as silly?

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Puppy, my Friend,

Are you trying to make people believe that you are Dustin by being just as silly?


Ole gay Bill Gray they used to call him...
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StarryNight and anyone, really, would you consider it possible to disapprove of behavior, lifestyle, or choices made by people without hating the individuals? I am new to this forum, but I have not seen anything indicative of hatred towards gays. As for bias everyone has it, so it might as well be upfront as hidden under the cloak of "objectivity." Of course balance is good; but should balance require you support causes with which you disagree?
Personally, I must say that anyone living in adultery, homosexuality, fornication, greed,hatred, is living in sin. I know some people like this. I don't hate them, I hate that they are so mislead or stubborn (in different cases), but I have compassion for them because they are suffering and may end in permanent ****ation if he does not repent (in a particular case). I do not approve sin when I recognize it, but neither can hate the people when the One who saved me and continues to work His perfection in me died to save them as well.


Well, forget the part about hatred. There seems to at least be some kind of issue. Too bad. It is a dangerous thing when people try to use the scriptures to defend their personal set of beliefs instead of allowing the scriptures to mold their beliefs.
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Hi VP,

True, Mary was not mentioned in this discussion; but, can you deny that the reason you continue to troll me is because I have denied that Mary is the Mother of God, that Mary was sinless, and that we should be worshiping Mary like you do?

Yes, you will throw every rock you can find at me -- but, usually from behind another -- because I deny your Mary and your pope.

I am not telling you to not worship Mary and the pope -- just do not expect us to follow suit.


bill,

Catholics nor anyone else worship Mary.

Not all protestants hate as much as you. One noted Presbyterian Dr. of theology
said this about Mary,he declared her to be "Theotokos,Mother of God". He said
it was necessary for our salvation for Jesus to be fully human as well as
fully divine.

Two natures in the person of God the son. Therefore, since Mary
was the source of his human nature , she was mother of Jesus; and since Jesus
is God, she is the mother of God. There is no need to be offended by this truth,
the doctor pointed out, because it safeguarded our salvation.

Your problem with the catholic church is your problem, don't drag everyone else
into your hate fit.

This should be in the miscellaneous forum anyway.

K.
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And, she had NO RIGHT to attempt to indoctrinate those children in her gay lifestyle. Riding the bus to school should be a safe time for our children -- not an indoctrination school.


Bill would you have had a problem if this person was preaching Christianity?


i would certainly have a problem with this. i would also have a problem with a bus driver "preaching" atheism. id also have a problem with a bus driver espousing liberalism or other controversial ideas with my child.

while i agree with what the bus driver is saying (for the most part) there is a time and place for such discussions and to a captive audience of children on a school bus ain't one of them.

i sure hope the idiot is fired. there are alot of people out of work now that would love to have that job. im sure they can fond soeone who will simply do their dang job,.
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Bill said:

Then, try and tell me that the gay community does not have an agenda in our public schools. God has been evicted from our public schools -- but, the gay agenda is alive and well -- even on the school bus riding to and from school.

If our children are not safe from this kind of indoctrination, even on the school bus -- where are they safe? Who is next to teach the gay agenda to our children -- the school janitor? And, is this defined in the scope of his job also?


And then Bill says:
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The point of this video and of my post is NOT about gays. The main point is the abusive action of this school bus driver.


Bill,

I have to disagree with you there. You titled the post "School Bus Driver Preaches Gay Agenda To Young Children On School Bus - Video" How can you say the post is not about gays when you state that in the heading? Now if you stated School Bus Driver Preaches Personal Agenda..... then I would believe you.


Hi Flo,

It would seem that since you WANT my post to be about GAYs, you jumped right over the word PREACH and proceeded to GAY. My point, again, is that this school bus driver should not be preaching or teaching these children anything. She has a license to drive -- not to TEACH.

And, the fact that she came back to the home of these two young girls and took them back into her bus to PREACH to them again -- is very abusive. And, for that, if I would the father I would have filed charges against her.

I cannot see why the school district will not discipline her.

So, Flo, you jump to whatever word you want to be YOUR focus -- I KNOW my motive for writing this post -- unnecessary and abusive action toward young children.


I don't think anyone took what you were trying to say here out of context. Once again you are on a rant about gays.

There is a reason that this made the news Bill...its because it is not normal! It stands out as something news worthy because it doesn't happen very often.

To say that homosexuals have an agenda to indoctrinate children in the public school system based on this one incident is complete exaggeration. Its right up there with the statement made by many christians that children aren't allowed to pray in school. Just another lie on your part.

I don't think there is anyone on this forum that would agree with what this bus driver did. It was wrong and I would be filing a lawsuit against the school board if they didn't take action against this woman. However to say it is part of the gay agenda is outrageous and disingenuous.
I think the school bus driver could have handle the situation better. Going back to the house a pulling the the girl and her sister on board the empty bus was wrong. That would make alot of parents mad. Also, parochial schools are not jam packed with intolerant bigots - I know because I went to parochial schools for 12 years.
The school bus driver is going to have to realize that being tolerant means dealing with other people's opinions that are different from hers, it also means she's gonna need to learn how to have appropriate dialogs with minors. It's a controversial topic, student is a minor, school bus driver is an adult, you got to be careful how you interact when feelings and emotions are raw. This is a law suit waiting to happen.
The bus driver should have kept her mouth shut to "Rachael", but told the kid's to tell their parents that "Rachael" was telling them they were going to hell.
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Then, try and tell me that the gay community does not have an agenda in our public schools. God has been evicted from our public schools -- but, the gay agenda is alive and well -- even on the school bus riding to and from school.



i don't know what else to call this affront to reason except "stupid." this was one stupid bus driver and children are completely free to pray to their hearts content in public schools. as an atheist i would certainly take up arms (if it came to that) against anyone, ANYONE, who tried to take prayer out of public schools. this is a myth that is perpetrated by the mindless for the mindless. paraphrasing somebody, as long as there are tests, there will be prayer in school.

and i hope my friends won't vilify me for giving them this mental image but i must ask: bill, why are you so obsessed with butt sex? do you ever do anything other than the missionary position? do you ever lick it? does she ever lick it? when your knees are having a good day, do you ever do it doggy style?

are you getting the picture now? yes, the manner in which we have sex is a personal thing. it is none of your business and condemning people for how they love one another is none of your business.

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