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I have known Peanut for a long time. For over 2 years I saw him on a weekly basis. He came to the business I ran and would hang out.

I never saw the kind of behavior that Red described. I am not saying it didn't happen. I am just saying I myself have never witnessed Peanut behave like that. I am a woman. I spent a lot of that time alone with Peanut. I never feared him or felt he was being inappropriate. He did get hugs from me every time he entered the business and right before he left. Sometimes just because he wanted a hug. Would I pick him up and give him a ride late at night? Yes. I have done so on one occasion.

There might be a side to him that I don't know. I can only judge what I know personally. If he does something to harm someone or threaten someone then I think they should most definitely call the police. If he has groped people they should have reported it. He is mentally disabled and over time some folks like him develop something similar to dementia. He may need medical help if he is showing signs of aggression or acting out in ways that are not normal.
this is what I was talking about in another thread, Peanut should not drink, he shouldn't even be served alcohol, but he does drink, and he can be a very creepy dude.. trying to touch and hug and kiss people, he also has a temper and it will and can flash when he doesn't get his way.

let's say that this kid gave Peanut a ride and Peanut started coming on to him, groping him and stuff, refusing to get out of the car, pitching a fit etc. and the kid got scared and bashed him a time or 2, are you going to feel the same way? Peanut says money was taken from him, Peanut also has an over-active imagination and lies, maybe not on purpose, I can't say, but he does lie...

when the truth comes out on all this I have a feeling there may be more to this story than we have been told so far
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Originally posted by martyr:
this is what I was talking about in another thread, Peanut should not drink, he shouldn't even be served alcohol, but he does drink, and he can be a very creepy dude.. trying to touch and hug and kiss people, he also has a temper and it will and can flash when he doesn't get his way.
let's say that this kid gave Peanut a ride and Peanut started coming on to him, groping him and stuff, refusing to get out of the car, pitching a fit etc. and the kid got scared and bashed him a time or 2, are you going to feel the same way? Peanut says money was taken from him, Peanut also has an over-active imagination and lies, maybe not on purpose, I can't say, but he does lie...

when the truth comes out on all this I have a feeling there is much more to this story than we have been told so far


Thank you martyr. That was the only point I was trying to make. Peanut HAS tried to grope me and some of my friends at a club in Sheffield and has had his ass beat before, just not this bad.
What kills me is Joseph Vinson either didn't tell his side of the story or did and was IGNORED by law enforcement AFTER the crusade was started to crucify him by the report that was published in the Times Daily with the accounts of "Peanut" and his mother ONLY!!!
After all the publicity, this seems like a railroad to injustice especially to those who have actually had to DEAL with this pervert.
He may be "mentally challanged" but he is DANGEROUS!
And this whole campaign to convict Vinson before the facts are exposed will come back to bite the sheriffs office in the a**! I wonder if the TIMES DAILY will do a story on that?????
when you look at Vinson's facebook page all that is there are pictures of his family and Christian based stuff like that, nothing that would indicate or suggest that he's violent or a criminal either one.. no white supremest or anything of that sort.. this was my observation anyhow.. the kid may have had a freak out and reacted in a way I would bet many people would.. This story just doesn't sit right with me, we are to believe that this kid gave Peanut a ride to rob him for 5 bucks, bash him in the head and leave him in the wilderness to die.. no.. it doesn't smell right
I don't know any of these people but as an observer I will say this.

The folks that are throwing out accusation about a retarded man being a pervert and speculating about what happened in the car between this Vinson joker and Peanut, are the only ones I see making a judgment call without any real proof.

As I understand it from the news reports and from what I have read online JV ADMITTED he beat this man. Case closed.
For my 2 cents worth.....I have known peanut for many years.....Gave him countless rides....spotted him a few bucks from time to time....and even when I didn't have a 5 to give him..he never threw a fit or acted out of line..I have seen him at the fair about every year...I have seen him at Spring park numerous occasions..and I have never seen him acting out...actually this is the first time I have ever heard of peanut doing and groping or anything out of line..I gave him a ride from cave st. a couple weeks ago to Wal-mart..and I flipped him a 5 so he could eat...if peanut has a wild side...I can honestly say...I have never seen it..and I have known him many years....
I'm with you Roofin. I remember him from years ago. All he wanted to do was go fishing. I've given him rides, money, and no telling how many worms for bait. He was and is a good kid who means no harm to anyone. As for being a pervert, no. What kid doesn't want a hug. I feel sorry for you folks on the other side of this arguement. Don't forget, Bank Independant is accepting donations for our buddy. Lets contribute and maybe change the guys life for the better.
I haven't seen him in years but the only thing I ever knew about Peanut was that he roamed way to much for a kid, he would cry at the least thing and people would feel bad and give him money. I always thought he knew what he was doing when he did that, but as far as anything else- he never did anything bad that I heard of. He was just a nuisance.
what do you think he does when he's hanging out around bars? I've seen the guy many times, he doesn't drink much, 1 or 2 beers is his limit, if there's medication in the picture I can't say, but I've seen him acting strange, what would be beyond normal for somebody with his condition, he's asked me for rides and money, I have always refused... I don't want the guy to think he knows me because I've seen him act creepy, maybe that's too strong of a word, odd may be better.. and if you think he doesn't drink a beer or 2 and act this way Ronnie you don't know him as well as you claim to. if he takes meds and it's possible I guess, one or 2 beers could be all it takes to make him act odd.
you people that are calling for this kid to get years in prison and to be beat down and the rest are a bunch of oddballs too.. because anything could have happened in that car, you or me wasn't there. but the story we have gotten from the TD doesn't add up.. especially from what I've seen out of Peanut the last 12 or so years that I've seen him around here
I'm wondering how many of you that have given Peanut occasional rides and money have been with him late at night when he's been drinking. Perhaps liquor affected his behavior just as it may have Vinson's. Hypothetically, how is one supposed to respond to an aggressive person when you don't know their history, even if they do appear mentally challenged?
This is the story a few want you to believe. A good christian Samaritan gave a menacing pervert a ride home. There may be ruffians about you know. The deranged pervert began groping the poor piece of meat so in defense of rape he beat him unconscious, took his money, and then left him for dead without notifying law enforcement of the harrowing experience. Sounds so much more believable than a guy getting robbed for five bucks.
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Originally posted by Carol None:
I'm wondering how many of you that have given Peanut occasional rides and money have been with him late at night when he's been drinking. Perhaps liquor affected his behavior just as it may have Vinson's. Hypothetically, how is one supposed to respond to an aggressive person when you don't know their history, even if they do appear mentally challenged?
You don't give them a ride, you walk away from them, you call the police, you don't pistol whip them, you don't rob them, you don't leave them bleeding by the side of the road.
As I see it what happened to "Peanut" was wrong in every way and it seems that the one guilty suffered a bit in kind punishment. I'm sure there is likely more to come. Is that type of vigilante actions justified? Some would think so and I could see that given that he took advantage of an person that had some form of impairment and inability to defend himself. Most likely though vigilante actions are also wrong.

What else is wrong is what's been going on by people who apparently don't know "peanut" and make unjustified accusations about him here on the forum to somehow justify or rationalize the initial beating that he endured at the hands of this other person who was, admittingly, drunk at the time he beat "peanut".

My guess is whatever judicial punishment that is handed down to this guy will pale compared to what he ends up suffering at the hands of others who will personally demonstrate to him their feelings about picking on someone like "Peanut".
you people are a mess.. this guy isn't freaking Rainman.. we don't know what happened.. if one of you was in the back seat of the car feel free to come forward. we have one who claims Peanut doesn't drink, I know better I've seen him drink often.. we got people who claim Peanut isn't capable of being weird, again, I have seen him acting very strange on numerous occasions, I know better... afraid I have to hold my judgment call on this one until I know more.. but I know ****ed good and well that Peanut is capable of making his own problems, most people overlook them because of his issues.. we just don't know what happened in that car... the kid had a gun, he could have killed him or **** him in the leg or something yet he chose to smack him in the head.. to rob Peanut for 5 bucks? EVERYBODY knows Peanut doesn't have money and walks around mooching money from everybody.. so unless This Vinson guy is a complete and total idiot he had to know.. hell, for all we know Peanut offered the guy 5 bucks for a ride and didn't want to pay him... yeah.. Judge not lest you be judged people because we don't know what went down in that car
I just find it sad that no one can bring up a defense for Vinson without being slammed.

If he is guilty then I really hope he gets pay back everyday in jail.

But, if it happened the way some describe it, then Mr. Vinson has been done very wrong by not only people here but also by the system.

He should have never been put a cell with other inmates....its not like he isnt going to get his when and if he is found guilty.

This is the entire problem with social networks, blogs, forums. We think we deserve to know everything and the exact second it happens
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Originally posted by Jankinonya:
So its wrong to be upset and angry at a "man" that admitted to pistol whipping and then dumping a mentally handicapped person.

Yet it is ok to speculate and conjure up all kinds of scenarios that may or may not have happened which would place the blame on the victim.

Yeah, that makes a lot more sense. Roll Eyes
Sup girl
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Originally posted by Jankinonya:
So its wrong to be upset and angry at a "man" that admitted to pistol whipping and then dumping a mentally handicapped person.

Yet it is ok to speculate and conjure up all kinds of scenarios that may or may not have happened which would place the blame on the victim.

Yeah, that makes a lot more sense. Roll Eyes

What DOESN'T make a lot of sense is the one sided reporting of the Times Daily and the jumps to conclusions by the public due to being inflamed with rhetoric.
It has been stated over and over again on this forum from those who AREN'T drinking the poor "Peanut" Koolaid different stories and examples that show "peanut" not to be the helpless victim he was portrayed in the original piece from the TD in Sunday's edition.
Yet, anyone who post these examples are either dismissed or called a liar.
And what is even more disturbing is the treatment of Joe Vinson by not only the public but by law enforcement.
If you will go back and DECIPHER the slanted article in the TD it even STATES that Mr. Vinson claimed that although he was drinking and has black outs which prevent him from remembering ALL of the details, he DID claim SELF-DEFENSE!
There are 2 VICTIMS in this story!
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So its wrong to be upset and angry at a "man" that admitted to pistol whipping and then dumping a mentally handicapped person.

Yet it is ok to speculate and conjure up all kinds of scenarios that may or may not have happened which would place the blame on the victim.

Yeah, that makes a lot more sense.


This is the mob mentality that I am talking about. Never did I say don't be angry....never did I say that Vinson was innocent....I just said it cannot be discussed....everyone saying hang the guy, cut off his balls or kill him is not a discussion. Its a lynch mob


Life is short, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, and never regret anything that made you SMILE!

Why dont you just take that off your profile since you do not mean any of it.....I know...it just sounds catchy
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Originally posted by rocky:
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Originally posted by Jankinonya:
So its wrong to be upset and angry at a "man" that admitted to pistol whipping and then dumping a mentally handicapped person.

Yet it is ok to speculate and conjure up all kinds of scenarios that may or may not have happened which would place the blame on the victim.

Yeah, that makes a lot more sense. Roll Eyes

What DOESN'T make a lot of sense is the one sided reporting of the Times Daily and the jumps to conclusions by the public due to being inflamed with rhetoric.
It has been stated over and over again on this forum from those who AREN'T drinking the poor "Peanut" Koolaid different stories and examples that show "peanut" not to be the helpless victim he was portrayed in the original piece from the TD in Sunday's edition.
Yet, anyone who post these examples are either dismissed or called a liar.
And what is even more disturbing is the treatment of Joe Vinson by not only the public but by law enforcement.
If you will go back and DECIPHER the slanted article in the TD it even STATES that Mr. Vinson claimed that although he was drinking and has black outs which prevent him from remembering ALL of the details, he DID claim SELF-DEFENSE!
There are 2 VICTIMS in this story!


Why dont you shut yo mouth you punk ass mafaka....I make you think you peanut little punk ass ***** ass mafaka
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Originally posted by Ronnie P.:
I've known Peanut for 30 years and I'm one of the ones saying maybe it isn't a good idea for him to live like he does and I can tell you Peanut does not "grope" women. These folks don't know what they are talking about. He isn't dangerous and I've never ever hear of him at a bar or drunk. Rocky is a lair.



maybe you're just not his type or you have a very loose definition of the term hug. i have witnessed him "hug" several girls.
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Originally posted by rocky:
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Originally posted by Jankinonya:
So its wrong to be upset and angry at a "man" that admitted to pistol whipping and then dumping a mentally handicapped person.

Yet it is ok to speculate and conjure up all kinds of scenarios that may or may not have happened which would place the blame on the victim.

Yeah, that makes a lot more sense. Roll Eyes

What DOESN'T make a lot of sense is the one sided reporting of the Times Daily and the jumps to conclusions by the public due to being inflamed with rhetoric.
It has been stated over and over again on this forum from those who AREN'T drinking the poor "Peanut" Koolaid different stories and examples that show "peanut" not to be the helpless victim he was portrayed in the original piece from the TD in Sunday's edition.
Yet, anyone who post these examples are either dismissed or called a liar.
And what is even more disturbing is the treatment of Joe Vinson by not only the public but by law enforcement.
If you will go back and DECIPHER the slanted article in the TD it even STATES that Mr. Vinson claimed that although he was drinking and has black outs which prevent him from remembering ALL of the details, he DID claim SELF-DEFENSE!
There are 2 VICTIMS in this story!


Explain this "disturbing treatment" by law enforcement.
From wright35633:
Explain this "disturbing treatment" by law enforcement.[/QUOTE]


From Rocky:
The sheriff Ronnie May placing a person the size of Joe Vinson in the cell with general population and ALLOWING him to be beat to hell and back instead of placed in protective custody. Maybe this is the type of "justice" YOU administered as a LEO, but your location says Texas, you should have taken at least one of your "comrades" from Colbert County with you if this is how you perceive fair treatment for the accused.
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Originally posted by rocky:
From wright35633:
Explain this "disturbing treatment" by law enforcement.



From Rocky:
The sheriff Ronnie May placing a person the size of Joe Vinson in the cell with general population and ALLOWING him to be beat to hell and back instead of placed in protective custody. Maybe this is the type of "justice" YOU administered as a LEO, but your location says Texas, you should have taken at least one of your "comrades" from Colbert County with you if this is how you perceive fair treatment for the accused.[/QUOTE]

Don't get personal Rocky. I haven't attacked you or your character so don't attack mine. I simply was curious what you found disturbing. I don't condone the violence that was visited upon Vinson in jail nor have I stated any support for those who hurt him. I just don't buy your story of defense of rape. It is my opinion to have. As far as my comrades, you should speak to what you know. I have none at the Colbert County Sheriff's Department. And Shady Rest is a place of mind. I'm closer than you think.
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Originally posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
rocky,

As a disinterested observer, one does not defend one's self and then take the offender's money.

Let's say Peanut did grope him. Peanut has the mentality of a child, mixed with the sexual maturity of a man his age. It does not deserve a pistol whipping. I'm sure a slap and a harsh word would have been sufficient.


nsns


NSNS:
On this point I agree totally and if the TRUTH ever comes out this is the one point in the entire story that requires explanation.
As stated by martyr, Joe Vinson could have shot him if he really wanted to and even at this he at least did show a measure of restraint.
If anyone stops for ONE second to put themselves in his shoes, he may have been scared and intoxicated and panicked and after the fact acted irrationally.
But to be tried in the press and public opinion before the facts of the case, to be placed in jeopardy by the Colbert County Sheriffs Dept and receive a brutal beating BEFORE the facts of the case, make his actions on an EVEN par with the punishment he has endured SO FAR!
Bad news reporting and a rush to judgement enflamed this entire situation and produced THESE results.
This is an indictment on the behaviour of the Times Daily, the Colbert County Sheriffs Office and a LOT of citizens of the Shoals who rushed to judgement and condemned a man in public opinion BEFORE learning ALL the facts!
Some of you keep saying this Vinson fellow has admitted he beat 'Peanut'. YOU ARE ALL WRONG! The TD article quotes SHERIFF RONNIE MAY as saying this guy admitted to beating 'Peanut', but that he didn't remember robbing him, etc. Not one of you...nor do I...have any iota whatsoever what Mr. Vinson has admitted to, or what he hasn't.

I know what I know about Peanut (as I have posted earlier)....doesn't matter if he is running around 'groping' people or not...if you don't know him...ANY OF YOU that don't know him...would not have anything to do with him if he walked up to you asking for money and a ride. This is a fact people...ugly written here...but a fact of reality. More and more of you are jumping on this 'lynch him first' bandwagon and are nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites. You are taking what a half-shaky (at best) source is quoting from another, even more shaky source and believing it as the absolute truth. That makes you an absolute moron. If the shoe fits...
i've stayed out of those whole topic... the several threads on the topic, because i don't know and don't believe i've ever met peanut.

i've heard a couple of stories.. one outrageous, but unverified and i won't repeat it here.. it's at best 3rd or 4th hand, so it's possibly nothing more than an intresting variation on an innocent situation..

but, while i was a manager someplace in tuscumbia, one of my employees( a 17 year old kid) came in, a little shaken and very annoyed.. i asked him what was up.

he told me peanut came up to him i na parking lot where he was gettign gas before work and asked him for a ride.. oh, someplace.. i don't rememebr where.. and the kid, who'd known peanut most of his life, told peanut " can't right now peanut, i'm on my way to work and i don't have time."

peanut responded by kicking his car and cussing him non stop until the kid finally quit pumping gas just to get in the car and drove away from him.

what i wonder is, did peanut treat this vinson kid the same way he treated my employee?

i don't know. and it dosen't excuse what vinson is alleged to have done, but some people don't have a lot of paitience when it comes to things like that.

and to atticfeline..
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Originally posted by AtticFeline:
Hee deserves everything he gets. Evil in my heart? The Bible says an eye for an eye.


ok.. so peanut got beat up. vinson got beat up.
eye for an eye met, even steven.
isn't that right?

of course the bible also says 'love thy neighbor as thyself' and 'turn the other cheek'

but we'll ignore those for now i suppose..
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Originally posted by thenagel:
i've stayed out of those whole topic... the several threads on the topic, because i don't know and don't believe i've ever met peanut.

i've heard a couple of stories.. one outrageous, but unverified and i won't repeat it here.. it's at best 3rd or 4th hand, so it's possibly nothing more than an intresting variation on an innocent situation..

but, while i was a manager someplace in tuscumbia, one of my employees( a 17 year old kid) came in, a little shaken and very annoyed.. i asked him what was up.

he told me peanut came up to him i na parking lot where he was gettign gas before work and asked him for a ride.. oh, someplace.. i don't rememebr where.. and the kid, who'd known peanut most of his life, told peanut " can't right now peanut, i'm on my way to work and i don't have time."

peanut responded by kicking his car and cussing him non stop until the kid finally quit pumping gas just to get in the car and drove away from him.

what i wonder is, did peanut treat this vinson kid the same way he treated my employee?

i don't know. and it dosen't excuse what vinson is alleged to have done, but some people don't have a lot of paitience when it comes to things like that.

and to atticfeline..
quote:
Originally posted by AtticFeline:
Hee deserves everything he gets. Evil in my heart? The Bible says an eye for an eye.


ok.. so peanut got beat up. vinson got beat up.
eye for an eye met, even steven.
isn't that right?

of course the bible also says 'love thy neighbor as thyself' and 'turn the other cheek'

but we'll ignore those for now i suppose..


As I've already stated, I will not make any more assumptions or judgements until I have facts and I feel terrible for jumping to conclusions earlier. I am sorry a mentally disabled man got beat up, sorry he is not properly supervised, and sorry that the person who beat him up got beaten in jail.

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