This "Peanut" guy sounds like bad news all the way around.
quote:Originally posted by Opie Cunningham:
This "Peanut" guy sounds like bad news all the way around.
U sound like a pri*k all the way around in and out. Peanuts good people.
quote:Originally posted by L.I.I.T.A.:quote:Originally posted by Opie Cunningham:
This "Peanut" guy sounds like bad news all the way around.
U sound like a pri*k all the way around in and out. Peanuts good people.
One would hope Opie was mocking someone for labeling him a sexual predator.
quote:Originally posted by wright35633:quote:Originally posted by L.I.I.T.A.:quote:Originally posted by Opie Cunningham:
This "Peanut" guy sounds like bad news all the way around.
U sound like a pri*k all the way around in and out. Peanuts good people.
One would hope Opie was mocking someone for labeling him a sexual predator.
One would HOPE that those who have made snap judgements regarding the guilt or innocence of Joe Vinson and the resulting damage that has been done to someone who very well may have been defending themselves would not continue to MOCK justice. As a LEO, I am SURE you would agree!
As for the labeling of "Peanut" as a "sexual predator" although this may be a broad definition it does include GROPING of EITHER sex, which in several incidences have been reported from both observers and VICTIMS of "Peanuts" advances on this forum and FACEBOOK!
I don't think anybody said anything about sexual predator... inappropriate behavior is more like it
quote:Originally posted by martyr:
I don't think anybody said anything about sexual predator... inappropriate behavior is more like it
Go back and read the posts from Rocky. Here are some quotes.
"your "FRIEND" "PEANUT" can be a pretty SCARY predator!"
"PEANUT" character is a predator"
"He comes off as a sexual predator who makes advances towards BOTH sexes"
And in another related thread ...
"Peanut" has a history of groping both women and MEN sexually in public and this may be a case of defense against rape."
I thought I would post these before you labeled me as a sensationalist.
quote:Originally posted by rocky:quote:Originally posted by wright35633:quote:Originally posted by L.I.I.T.A.:quote:Originally posted by Opie Cunningham:
This "Peanut" guy sounds like bad news all the way around.
U sound like a pri*k all the way around in and out. Peanuts good people.
One would hope Opie was mocking someone for labeling him a sexual predator.
One would HOPE that those who have made snap judgements regarding the guilt or innocence of Joe Vinson and the resulting damage that has been done to someone who very well may have been defending themselves would not continue to MOCK justice. As a LEO, I am SURE you would agree!
As for the labeling of "Peanut" as a "sexual predator" although this may be a broad definition it does include GROPING of EITHER sex, which in several incidences have been reported from both observers and VICTIMS of "Peanuts" advances on this forum and FACEBOOK!
Just as you accused others of rushing to snap judgments, you have defamed a victim of an "alleged" assault and robbery and chosen to align yourself on the side of Vinson. And that is totally appropriate. Just because I simply said that i have never seen Peanut drunk or groping people and that your tale doesn't hold water doesn't in any way that I have mocked justice.
From wright 35633:
Rocky you are such a hypocrite. Just as you accused others of rushing to snap judgments, you have defamed a victim of an "alleged" assault and robbery and chosen to align yourself on the side of Vinson. And that is totally appropriate. Just because I simply said that i have never seen Peanut drunk or groping people and that your tale doesn't hold water doesn't in any way that I have mocked justice.[/QUOTE]
From Rocky:
wright35633, I in no way stated and I hope no implication was made that YOU mocked justice. On the contrary, I pointed out that as a LEO I am sure you were interested in justice being SERVED rather than snap judgements and calls for vigilante actions.(Well that is paraphrasing, but that WAS the meaning)
As for "defaming" a victim of an "alleged" assault, I have related PERSONAL observation of not only unwanted advances by "Peanut" but as have others, inappropriate "hugging" and displays of anger by this "victim" towards those he could not be accommodated by.
There may not be any SAINTS in this story in either direction, but there may not be the EVIL that was attributed to Joe Vinson either if this case is fully investigated unbiasedly and weighed on past behaviour.
Rocky you are such a hypocrite. Just as you accused others of rushing to snap judgments, you have defamed a victim of an "alleged" assault and robbery and chosen to align yourself on the side of Vinson. And that is totally appropriate. Just because I simply said that i have never seen Peanut drunk or groping people and that your tale doesn't hold water doesn't in any way that I have mocked justice.[/QUOTE]
From Rocky:
wright35633, I in no way stated and I hope no implication was made that YOU mocked justice. On the contrary, I pointed out that as a LEO I am sure you were interested in justice being SERVED rather than snap judgements and calls for vigilante actions.(Well that is paraphrasing, but that WAS the meaning)
As for "defaming" a victim of an "alleged" assault, I have related PERSONAL observation of not only unwanted advances by "Peanut" but as have others, inappropriate "hugging" and displays of anger by this "victim" towards those he could not be accommodated by.
There may not be any SAINTS in this story in either direction, but there may not be the EVIL that was attributed to Joe Vinson either if this case is fully investigated unbiasedly and weighed on past behaviour.
quote:Originally posted by rocky:
From wright 35633:
Rocky you are such a hypocrite. Just as you accused others of rushing to snap judgments, you have defamed a victim of an "alleged" assault and robbery and chosen to align yourself on the side of Vinson. And that is totally appropriate. Just because I simply said that i have never seen Peanut drunk or groping people and that your tale doesn't hold water doesn't in any way that I have mocked justice.
From Rocky:
wright35633, I in no way stated and I hope no implication was made that YOU mocked justice. On the contrary, I pointed out that as a LEO I am sure you were interested in justice being SERVED rather than snap judgements and calls for vigilante actions.(Well that is paraphrasing, but that WAS the meaning)
As for "defaming" a victim of an "alleged" assault, I have related PERSONAL observation of not only unwanted advances by "Peanut" but as have others, inappropriate "hugging" and displays of anger by this "victim" towards those he could not be accommodated by.
There may not be any SAINTS in this story in either direction, but there may not be the EVIL that was attributed to Joe Vinson either if this case is fully investigated unbiasedly and weighed on past behaviour.[/QUOTE]
Please accept my apology for calling you a hypocrite? I edited it because it was in bad taste. The last passage sounds fair and unbiased. Some of your other posts have not. The thing that I found ridiculous was the "defense of rape" comment. I have never said that it was impossible that Peanut did something you mentioned. I said it is unlikely that a victim of any form of harassment would, in defense of one's self, would pistol whip his harasser, take his 5 dollars, and dump him on a roadside without alerting authorities. And also, I am not okay with him being beaten in jail. I prefer to see him stand trial and be judged by a jury of his peers if he does not enter a guilty plea.
Prior to his arrest, Did Vinson report the incident or file a complaint against "Peanut"? If he was the victim of a crime, why not contact authorities and advise them of Peanuts location so the man could at least get medical treatment? If Vinson was involved and was a legitimate victim, it seems that his own actions make that possible scenario less believable.
While Peanut may be annoying to some, I've never seen him acting inappropriately. That's not to say it's never happened. Regardless of the victim, hopefully justice will prevail.
While Peanut may be annoying to some, I've never seen him acting inappropriately. That's not to say it's never happened. Regardless of the victim, hopefully justice will prevail.
Maybe Vinson needs to keep his blacking out ill tempered ass out of bars, and all the people who are suddenly Peanuts long lost best friends need to keep his annoying ass off the streets at 1 AM.
quote:Originally posted by Southern_Guy:
While Peanut may be annoying to some, I've never seen him acting inappropriately. That's not to say it's never happened. Regardless of the victim, hopefully justice will prevail.
And the rectification of INJUSTICES towards the "alleged" perpertrator Joseph Vinson, which hopefully will be accomplished is my only point in posting these messages, Southern-Guy.
This guy was not some "hardened" criminal. Do as many have done before it was taken down, go and check out his Facebook page.
He made a horrible mistake. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong individual and thanks to the over zealous reporting of the Times Daily perhaps on a "slow" news day for a Sunday edition, is now to endure a living HELL for the rest of his life!
I can RELATE to his position, having had an incidence of confronting "Peanut" personally with what COULD have been VERY similar circumstances. Fortunately, I was NOT alone in his presence and was ABLE to FIGHT him off with as one poster stated: "strong words".
I don't know Joe Vinson personally (as has been alleged) but can empathize with panic and his NOT alerting authorities since I have first hand accounts of those like myself and others HAVE alerted authorites of "Peanut" and his erratic behavior only to be told he was "harmless".
"Peanut" should have been institutionalized YEARS ago and this is the result of neglect by all involved and the sad tragedy for one young man who made a terrible mistake.
quote:Originally posted by Jankinonya:
So its wrong to be upset and angry at a "man" that admitted to pistol whipping and then dumping a mentally handicapped person.
Yet it is ok to speculate and conjure up all kinds of scenarios that may or may not have happened which would place the blame on the victim.
Yeah, that makes a lot more sense.
What you said is exactly how lawyers defend these people.They conjure up all kinds of scenarios to present a jury and sadly to say, most of the time,the jury buys them.
quote:Originally posted by wright35633:quote:Originally posted by martyr:
I don't think anybody said anything about sexual predator... inappropriate behavior is more like it
Go back and read the posts from Rocky. Here are some quotes.
"your "FRIEND" "PEANUT" can be a pretty SCARY predator!"
"PEANUT" character is a predator"
"He comes off as a sexual predator who makes advances towards BOTH sexes"
And in another related thread ...
"Peanut" has a history of groping both women and MEN sexually in public and this may be a case of defense against rape."
I thought I would post these before you labeled me as a sensationalist.
Hey, if it walks like a Duck....
if a 6 year old was found sleeping in doorways, hitchhiking at 1 am, or begging for money outside bars you can bet dhr would take the child away from the parents. peanut needs supervision and if you don't agree you should question how much you really care about peanut.
I have seen more than one person here talk about peanut kicking someones vehicle. A couple of the posters I have never had a reason not to trust. He is said to have the mentality of a 6 or 7 year old, well I've seen some 6 or 7 year olds, sweet as can be most of the time, throw some downright nasty fits when they dont get their way.
And I agree with all who said that there needs to be someone monitoring peanuts where abouts more often. Most people with his condition would not be allowed to run around town on their own, much less all hours of the night. This is for their safety as much as anyone elses.
As for the situation at hand, I'll reserve my judgement against either party for the time being. With the exception of defense of himself, there was no excuse for Vinson to beat peanut and leave him for dead. But I do think there may be more to the situation that we are hearing. We all know there are three sides to the story.....
And I agree with all who said that there needs to be someone monitoring peanuts where abouts more often. Most people with his condition would not be allowed to run around town on their own, much less all hours of the night. This is for their safety as much as anyone elses.
As for the situation at hand, I'll reserve my judgement against either party for the time being. With the exception of defense of himself, there was no excuse for Vinson to beat peanut and leave him for dead. But I do think there may be more to the situation that we are hearing. We all know there are three sides to the story.....
Capt. James T. you seem like a reasonable man and I hope when the time comes for trial for this "alleged" offense, there is a jury pool which can be chosen from those with a mindset such as yours, irregardless of publicity.
What would you do Rocky? Let the suspect go and hang the victim?
NO, make SURE the "alleged" perpertrator was GUILTY of more than PUBLIC OPINION which was enraged by a sympathetic article published in the Times Daily before an arrest and once apprehended was not barbarically beaten PRIOR to a trial. If the forementioned was eliminated and a jury of peers found the subject guilty, then punishment by LAW would be appropriate. The case of Joseph Vinson VS The State of Alabama or public opinion is FLAWED!
FACT..victim is mentally challenged.
FACT..suspect confessed to assaulting victim with a pistol.
FACT..jail is a violent place, especially for inmates who take advantage of children or the weak.
FACT..if the courts suspect that pre-trial publicity will have a bearing on the case it will be tried somewhere else.
FACT..suspect confessed to assaulting victim with a pistol.
FACT..jail is a violent place, especially for inmates who take advantage of children or the weak.
FACT..if the courts suspect that pre-trial publicity will have a bearing on the case it will be tried somewhere else.
Fact: produce docomentation of being "mentally challagened" (yes, we all know he is but PROVE IT)
Fact: No, you are WRONG, Joseph Vinson was "qouted" from Sheriff Ronnie May as "stateing" that he beat the "victim" and also that it was in "self-defense"
I don't feel like answering the rest. You know as well as I that if the TD had not jumped to conclusions and stirred up the public (read the posts on THIS forum) that this would have appeared in LAW AND ORDER as a simple assault and now that their "golden child" is being exposed as less than "golden", they and all the bleedling hearts involved are doing everything possible to convict a man who was as I said WAS in the wrong place, in the wrong time with a VERY wrong individual!
Fact: No, you are WRONG, Joseph Vinson was "qouted" from Sheriff Ronnie May as "stateing" that he beat the "victim" and also that it was in "self-defense"
I don't feel like answering the rest. You know as well as I that if the TD had not jumped to conclusions and stirred up the public (read the posts on THIS forum) that this would have appeared in LAW AND ORDER as a simple assault and now that their "golden child" is being exposed as less than "golden", they and all the bleedling hearts involved are doing everything possible to convict a man who was as I said WAS in the wrong place, in the wrong time with a VERY wrong individual!
I don't want to argue with you. I'll agree. Lets let Vinson go give him citizen of the year award and a large cash prize. Maybe a trip to Disney World. MAybe...maybe we can start a benifit fund for him too. Will you contribute?
I know I shouldn't: you all know me here goes: I wonder how much "peanuts" MAMA made off of the TD article and the gullibility of those influenced???????????????
She probably made a lot. Now, happy? I don't understand the fund either, but people are still free to spend their money anyway they want, and gee rocky, isn't that what you PREACH about 24-7, how people should help the poor and all that? Now that you see an example of caring you suddenly have a problem with it.quote:Originally posted by rocky:
I know I shouldn't: you all know me here goes: I wonder how much "peanuts" MAMA made off of the TD article and the gullibility of those influenced???????????????