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I don't really know, but I caught the tail end of it on 19 News this morning.

Some man was telling them that odor wouldn't be a problem and that the land was coded correctly to build the plant and that the concerns brought before him wasn't anything to be concerned with.

Now, that is all I hear, the outcome I have no idea, I don't even know who the guy was since I walked into the room after the broadcast got started.

Google 19 NEWS and maybe you can read it??
Panic, I was at the meeting. I can tell you there were so many folks they had to turn them away for fire code regulation. Many were crammed into the lobby, the others stayed outside. I can also tell you there was not a single soul that stated they wanted the new sewage plant! Let's just say, the mayor and his cronies were put in their place! Our committee backed them against the wall a couple of times on certain issues, which they had no retort. We had a microbiologist there who ended all speculation that the plant would not be odorless and harmless to the environment. In fact, she stated the "treated" effluent would not be clean and could settle in certain low flow areas of Blue water/mill creek. We also had 1179 signatures which were presented to the mayor from our petition. We must continue to be dilligent in this matter. One thing that would help, you can send letters to the Alabama Department of Environmental Management, EPA and National Wildlife Conservancy stated your stand against the plant. Fight on!!
there are still several petitions left out at differents stores so I am sure there is lots more signatures to be counted & then there is a web site where you can sign also....

I work for a Civil Engineering firm in Huntsville, & we deal with sewers & septic tanks, sand filters, & all the ways to dispose of poop.....& my engineer tells me that there is no reason for it.....he is completely unbiased, he lives @ sand mountain......

He did say that the soil in our area is not the most ideal situation for septic tanks, but that sewer would not solve our problems. Also I heard about a $5000.00 impact fee that anyone wanting to hook up to the sewer would have to pay.....why would any one do that with a septic tank in thier back yard. you could replace your septic tank 3 1/2 times (they should last about 8-10 yrs) for what you could pay JUST TO HOOK UP TO THE SEWER!!! THAT IS NOT COUNTING THE MONTHLY BILL.
Before anyone gets on me here, I'm just asking a few questions. Would it not be better to have a sanitary sewer system rather than septic tanks? They fill-up, back-up, have to be dug up (this will ruin your yard), eventually have to be replaced, etc. A sewer system would definitely help attract business to the area. Also, instead of just fussing and opposing this endeavor, has anyone proposed a different plan (not a plan to hook up wiyh someone else's systems so they have to deal with your waste, a real alternative)?
The argument here is WHERE they want to put it. There is no way a town should force residents 6 miles outside their city limits to deal with the smell, eyesore, decreased property values for their benefit! If they want it so badly, they need to build it inside the city limits of Killen or hook up to Florence! Now, ask yourself. Would you want it in your backyard? I think not.
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Originally posted by tidechick:
The argument here is WHERE they want to put it. There is no way a town should force residents 6 miles outside their city limits to deal with the smell, eyesore, decreased property values for their benefit! If they want it so badly, they need to build it inside the city limits of Killen or hook up to Florence! Now, ask yourself. Would you want it in your backyard? I think not.
Why doesn't Killen officials dump their sewage into Shoal Creek, it's a lot closer? Maybe it's because of the Turtle Point crowd.
Here's my two cents. I am not for or against this system and it will not affect me one bit. What bothers me about this situation is that people think that they should have some say so about what happends on the property next door. If the property is for sale, and the town want to purchase it then why should the neighbors have any right to block it. It seems to me that if the neighbors dont want a sewer plant on the property they should buy it themselves. Then there would be no way a treatment plant could be built there.
It would be interesting to me if some of the people who are agianst this had someone telling them what they could or could not do on their property.
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Originally posted by enjnir:
Here's my two cents. I am not for or against this system and it will not affect me one bit. What bothers me about this situation is that people think that they should have some say so about what happends on the property next door. If the property is for sale, and the town want to purchase it then why should the neighbors have any right to block it. It seems to me that if the neighbors dont want a sewer plant on the property they should buy it themselves. Then there would be no way a treatment plant could be built there.
It would be interesting to me if some of the people who are agianst this had someone telling them what they could or could not do on their property.


Very good point
I think it is only right that I give you what insight I have concerning the sewer system being proposed. I don't know the exact location where this will be built, but you need to understand that the laws regulating this is very strict, and if the ADEM (Alabama department of Energy Management) allows it to be built, then it is not going to pollute the waters.
With that being said, I will tell you that I personally live on a tributary of Bluewater creek and have three septic tank systems in place working. Whatever happens in a septic tank I don't know, but I don't treat it by any standard, it then runs out through the field lines into the soil(whatever it is). There is solid rock down close by, this effluent then runs to the nearby creek, which in turn is a part of said Bluewater creek. If you have a septic tank, then you do the same thing.
I have a neighbor who I watched him build his own sess tank(back in the seventy's). A sess tank, is nothing but a tank without a bottom. Whatever dumps into the tank, just flows right out the bottom, no kind of treatment, not even allowed for bacteria to break down the stuff. This is pretty much the same as dumping it on the ground.
There is a local backhoe service that has the porta john's for construction sites and other uses. He has a permit to dump his treated waste onto to ground at a location very close to said Bluewater creek.
Now with this information, think about how many people has the same type of systems you and I do, that are in the watershed of said Bluewater creek, and don't forget Bluewater creek begins North of Loretto Tennessee.
You should be advised that the said Bluewater creek is already polluted. Putting in a waste water treatment facility is the price we have to pay as a society in order to do what needs to be done.
Now the only argument I can side with you on is if it is close to your home and you are worried about what you will be looking at. I suggest you keep an open mind about the proposal and see what they promise. It may not be as bad as you might be thinking.
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Another point. True there is no right or legality to controlling what someone else does to their property. But when it comes to environmental issues, I think it is everyone's right to stand up and stop it.


Environmental???? Hmmmmm, they take the water and clean it, before dumping it into the river so you can drink it. This has been going on for YEARS and YEARS.

It is in SOMEONE's backyard right now, so who is to say just they are better than anyone else to have to live near such a NECESSITY of life.

If I lived over there, I would be ashamed of raising cain about something that HAS to happen somewhere. You WANT it to happen, just not close to you.

So WHERE would YOU put it?
I live near Bluewater...my problem is that I cannot vote on who is the mayor or on the council in Killen. They also said they would not be able to control the prices that AUS would charge outside the city limits. I just do not understand if I don't have a say in who is the mayor why does he have the authority to put it outside the city limits. Florence said they could hook onto their system, but he did not want to do that because they would only get the profits from Shoals Creek and on back toward Killen. He just does not want to give up the profit of Shoals Creek and toward Florence. I am for the growth of Killen, but they should put it in the city limits! They also said it would cost $4 Million to connect to Florence, but they can receive a $2 or $2.5 Million grant to do that.


Who is this under my name, AGAIN???

This EVE stuff is just too weird for words.
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I live near Bluewater...my problem is that I cannot vote on who is the mayor or on the council in Killen. They also said they would not be able to control the prices that AUS would charge outside the city limits. I just do not understand if I don't have a say in who is the mayor why does he have the authority to put it outside the city limits. Florence said they could hook onto their system, but he did not want to do that because they would only get the profits from Shoals Creek and on back toward Killen. He just does not want to give up the profit of Shoals Creek and toward Florence. I am for the growth of Killen, but they should put it in the city limits! They also said it would cost $4 Million to connect to Florence, but they can receive a $2 or $2.5 Million grant to do that.


Who is this under my name, AGAIN???

This EVE stuff is just too weird for words.



Can someone please tell me who posted this??? They need to log out and back on so that they will be under their own name.

If I were to EVER get a forum, it would definitely NOT be EVE.
I live in a subdivision inside the City Limits where property is zoned. Therefore, if they wanted to put it by my house they would have to purchase residential lots and rezone them to make it work.
That is my point in a nutshell if you live in the county you should understand that you DO NOT have any control of the property around you. You should not try to force your idea of what you want next door onto the people that actually own the property. Private property ownership is a right that should not be allowed to be infringed upon. If I owned property in the county then I would not want my neighbors to have anything to say about what I do on my property as long as it is legal. As long as the treatment plant is permitted properly there is nothing illegal about it.
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Originally posted by enjnir:
I live in a subdivision inside the City Limits where property is zoned. Therefore, if they wanted to put it by my house they would have to purchase residential lots and rezone them to make it work.
That is my point in a nutshell if you live in the county you should understand that you DO NOT have any control of the property around you. You should not try to force your idea of what you want next door onto the people that actually own the property. Private property ownership is a right that should not be allowed to be infringed upon. If I owned property in the county then I would not want my neighbors to have anything to say about what I do on my property as long as it is legal. As long as the treatment plant is permitted properly there is nothing illegal about it.



EXACTLY!!! That was what I was trying to say. If and when the County can accrue land for things of this nature, they don't have to go around asking permission.

I would just be thankful that nowdays we DO have ways to treat water because if they couldn't you would be drinking things you wouldn't even imagine.
This plant is not for the county. It's for the city of Killen to put in a frikkin Burger King. No lie. When asked why they needed a plant, one of the counselwomen made this statement. I kid you not. Now would you be this giddy about it. When you don't even live in the city. Rest assured we will continue to do whatever it takes to keep Killen's waste out of Bluewater.
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Come on people! You can't tell me if someone was going to put a sewage treatment plant next to your home, you would be this positive about it. Until it's you, you'll just never know how we feel! I know of which I speak.


Yeah, we can tell you that.

Your (and all your neighbors) own waste and untreated sewage is polluting the creek now. A sewage treatment system may be the only thing that can save the creek from becoming a cesspool, if you are wise enough to tie into it before it is too late.
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Originally posted by tidechick:
Come on people! You can't tell me if someone was going to put a sewage treatment plant next to your home, you would be this positive about it. Until it's you, you'll just never know how we feel! I know of which I speak.


Yeah, we can tell you that.

Your (and all your neighbors) own waste and untreated sewage is polluting the creek now. A sewage treatment system may be the only thing that can save the creek from becoming a cesspool, if you are wise enough to tie into it before it is too late.



You are right on the money here, Sassy!!!

The benefits of living in the ''country'' has some side effects we don't necessarily like, but it IS necessary for health reasons.
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Originally posted by tidechick:
A friend of my Mom's lives in Lexington and she was going to opt not to hook up to the sewer system. Guess what, they told her if she didn't sign up, they would cut off her water! Now, she has a septic tank and gets her water from a well! Nuff said.


The Lexington situation came about due to citizens not being involved. It has been a fiasco from the get-go. I understand their municipal court is the same way.

Do not let this happen to Blue Water and Elgin. I have heard it will go the way Robbins wants it to...

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