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Buying drugs at a drug house all nite and each time rideing around smoking the crack , as many as 7 to 8 times during the early morning hours, maybe a small crime, but that person blowing thru a Red Light and killing an Innocent person or maybe a family is not a small crime, it is Murder , and then the same person 3 months later back at this drug house , buying and doing drugs is just another small crime, but when the Florence Police stoped and arrested the man for Murder DUI in Colbert Co., but to find out much later that Felony charge was droped by Colbert Co. Poor Guy, I guess he deserved a break, he was only doing a small crime or had a friend in high places !
I don't think there is ANY comparison to a crackhead and somebody who smokes a little weed, And I wasn't talking about a drunk blowing through a stop sign and killing someone. I challange you to sit for an hour and watch a stop sign on a seldom used street then tell me how many come to a complete stop. Come to Sheffield intersection of 6th street and Little Rock and watch. MOST people barely slow at the stop sign to turn onto 6th street. What do you recommend for all these violators? The death penalty?
They had a Warrant for his arrest, and that is where they found the guy. The Crash happened in Florence. The knew where to find him. Colbert Co. Deputy was there and took the Drugs Crack Pipe and the guys car with them. Sad to find out musch later them charges was droped and nothingon record what so ever, other than the copy of the srrest report of Colbert County, haveing the drugs.
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Originally posted by ffemt:
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Originally posted by leo:
My point is they are small crimes. Her original question was "what crime do you consider small"


I don't consider a felony a small crime. At what point does it become a "large" crime? 3 plants? 4,5? 10? 25? Is it OK to have an entire field of the crop?


I see it is futile to attempt to make a point. I give up. Those two who were arrested for the two plants, well, they should be be imprisoned for at least 20 years(lesser sentences are reserved for murders) then taken out and shot or hanged or maybe drawn and quartered. We have to show these drug crazed monsters that we will not tolerate them or their kind. Better yet, lets get together, go to the jail,and drag them out into the street and stomp them to death right now,then we'll start on those stop sign runners.
This is simple:
There are laws for operating a motor vehicle and there are laws for what someone can or cannot have on his/her person or property. According to both sets of laws, there are varying degrees of violations and punishments. Running a stop sign is typically considered a minor violation. Driving 80 in a 45 is going to cost you. Possession of a controlled substance such as marijuana is an entirely different matter and should be handled accordingly. Try to find a better argument. This one isn't working for you.
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Originally posted by leo:
I see it is futile to attempt to make a point. I give up. Those two who were arrested for the two plants, well, they should be be imprisoned for at least 20 years(lesser sentences are reserved for murders) then taken out and shot or hanged or maybe drawn and quartered. We have to show these drug crazed monsters that we will not tolerate them or their kind. Better yet, lets get together, go to the jail,and drag them out into the street and stomp them to death right now,then we'll start on those stop sign runners.


Yes, your statement to give up is a good one. Your ironic utterance will get you no where.
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
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Originally posted by leo:
I see it is futile to attempt to make a point. I give up. Those two who were arrested for the two plants, well, they should be be imprisoned for at least 20 years(lesser sentences are reserved for murders) then taken out and shot or hanged or maybe drawn and quartered. We have to show these drug crazed monsters that we will not tolerate them or their kind. Better yet, lets get together, go to the jail,and drag them out into the street and stomp them to death right now,then we'll start on those stop sign runners.


Yes, your statement to give up is a good one. Your ironic utterance will get you no where.


I bow to your idiocy and look forward to beginning a persecution of jaywalkers, parking violators, sidewalk spitters and other criminals who don't deserve to share the same air as people with the high moral standards WE share.
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Originally posted by leo:

I see it is futile to attempt to make a point. I give up. Those two who were arrested for the two plants, well, they should be be imprisoned for at least 20 years(lesser sentences are reserved for murders) then taken out and shot or hanged or maybe drawn and quartered. We have to show these drug crazed monsters that we will not tolerate them or their kind. Better yet, lets get together, go to the jail,and drag them out into the street and stomp them to death right now,then we'll start on those stop sign runners.

Is the only way you feel right in this is to make a strawman of me? I never said anything about killing somebody for drug offenses.

You go on to say at least 20 years for the drugs and murderers get off with less, c'mon man can we debate in reality? Yes it's possible to get 20 years for drug offenses, but if we're talking about being caught with 2 marijuana plants they most likely won't see any prison time at all. Then you want to compare it to a murderer getting less than 20 years, once again yes possible. All you are doing is taking the higher penalty for a crime (drugs) and comparing it to the lower penalty of another (murder) to make your position look stronger.

I can do the same thing. Did you know that if I'm caught speeding that I can get one nasty fine, jail time, revoke my license and possibly not let me drive ever again!? There are people out there growing drugs that get off with a slap on the wrist of unsupervised probation.

Can we talk about this in the real world now?
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Originally posted by ffemt:
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Originally posted by leo:

I see it is futile to attempt to make a point. I give up. Those two who were arrested for the two plants, well, they should be be imprisoned for at least 20 years(lesser sentences are reserved for murders) then taken out and shot or hanged or maybe drawn and quartered. We have to show these drug crazed monsters that we will not tolerate them or their kind. Better yet, lets get together, go to the jail,and drag them out into the street and stomp them to death right now,then we'll start on those stop sign runners.

Is the only way you feel right in this is to make a strawman of me? I never said anything about killing somebody for drug offenses.

You go on to say at least 20 years for the drugs and murderers get off with less, c'mon man can we debate in reality? Yes it's possible to get 20 years for drug offenses, but if we're talking about being caught with 2 marijuana plants they most likely won't see any prison time at all. Then you want to compare it to a murderer getting less than 20 years, once again yes possible. All you are doing is taking the higher penalty for a crime (drugs) and comparing it to the lower penalty of another (murder) to make your position look stronger.

I can do the same thing. Did you know that if I'm caught speeding that I can get one nasty fine, jail time, revoke my license and possibly not let me drive ever again!? There are people out there growing drugs that get off with a slap on the wrist of unsupervised probation.

Can we talk about this in the real world now?


I was being sarcastic to semiannual and did not mean for it to reflect on you or your opinion. I did not intend for my statements to be taken literally. I thought the outrageous penalties would be recognized as ridiculous which they are.

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