Sheryl Crow touched Karl Rove at a Washington dinner on Saturday night to which he responded "hey! dont touch me". First of all WHY on earth would the beautiful Ms. Crow move the rock, and touch that repulsive looking slimey little toad? Secondly, why on earth would any real MAN recoil from the touch of Sheryl Crow? Hmmmmmmmmm.........
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From Sheryl Crow's blog:

One of my favorites is in the area of conserving trees which we heavily rely on for oxygen. I propose a limitation be put on how many sqares of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required.
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Originally posted by loggedin:
Ms Crow has something in common with the lefty cult hero, Theodore Kaczynski. Personal hygiene was not his strong suit either.

If you meet this woman, do not shake her hand.


Maybe Karl had already read her blog and knew she'd only used one square and that's why he didn't want her touching him!
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Oh my goodness. This is right up there with Algore's announcement that he thinks incandescent light bulbs should be BANNED.

Does the lovely, talented, homewrecking Ms. Crow not realize that paper companies love trees? They are replanting a tree for every tree they cut....maybe more than one. The people who make our toilet paper like to have jobs and buy groceries.

I get so tired of the tree huggers trying to portray industry as evil hand wringing monsters who are out to destroy the environment. Why would a paper company be interested in using up all the trees? I would be willing to bet that paper companies are the leaders in efforts to plant trees. Does Crow discount their replanting efforts because they are doing it for profit rather than to insure that we have oxygen?

Hypocrite. (Also, she should keep her grimy mitts.....a meaningful phrase since we know she uses one square.....off other people's husbands.)
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Originally posted by HomesickGirl:

Does the lovely, talented, homewrecking Ms. Crow not realize that paper companies love trees? They are replanting a tree for every tree they cut....maybe more than one.



Are you sure about that? I know that some paper companies plant pine trees when they clear-cut an area. Pine trees are not the same as the beautiful hardwood trees that they cut down. Pines are a fast-growing alternative with minimal benefits. Frowner
The term "homewrecker" should always be used for the married party. If the married man had said:"No, I am a married man.", then there would not be a problem.

Karl Rove should be so lucky as to say "no" to anyone - especially the lovely Ms. Crow. Next time someone moves his rock, maybe he will be nicer.
I was taught not to wipe my nose, mouth or anything else on my sleeve. I am not even going to touch on 1 square of TP lol I'll just buy TP credits from ALGORE.
Have these "ladies" forgotten about hankies or even cloth napkins? Sure would use less water and soap washing these.
I should checkout her site to see why she "touched him" but when some people talk to a person they reach out and touch them. It is a personal effect to show sincerity or effectives.
I know people like this.

There are other types of people who have a phobia about being touched. Seems like Rove would fit into that catagory. He's a meanspirited sliming charcter known for lies, and dirty tricks.
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Originally posted by Pogo142:
I should checkout her site to see why she "touched him" but when some people talk to a person they reach out and touch them. It is a personal effect to show sincerity or effectives.
I know people like this.

There are other types of people who have a phobia about being touched. Seems like Rove would fit into that catagory. He's a meanspirited sliming charcter known for lies, and dirty tricks.


It took great bravery for Ms.Crow to touch that slimey liar Karl Rove. As she correctly told him "you work for me, you can at least listen". He is on the national payroll. Again - he should be so lucky as to have any attractive woman "touch" his nasty ass.
Tree farms, especially here in the South, grow a pine bred for rapid growth. Some are used for pulp for paper. Some are used for constructing homes. Most of the lumber that goes into a home is pine. Small trees, left over scrap lumber, saw dust, etc. are processed into pulp for paper.

Its funny, that San Francisco city fathers are pushing paper bags instead of plastic. And, Crow is pushing nothing instead of paper. Yeah, she's still hot. But, like French babes, I'd suggest a good scrub down and a shot of high spectrum antibiotics, first.
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Originally posted by interventor:
Tree farms, especially here in the South, grow a pine bred for rapid growth. Some are used for pulp for paper. Some are used for constructing homes. Most of the lumber that goes into a home is pine. Small trees, left over scrap lumber, saw dust, etc. are processed into pulp for paper.


Its funny, that San Francisco city fathers are pushing paper bags instead of plastic. And, Crow is pushing nothing instead of paper. Yeah, she's still hot. But, like French babes, I'd suggest a good scrub down and a shot of high spectrum antibiotics, first.


I would not be gettin the scrub brush and soap out if I were you. You are no Karl Rove.

Its not so "funny" that San Fran. is going for paper. Its recycled paper products. I actually use a over-sized recycled plastic mesh bag over and over when I go to the grocery. Keeps the junk out of my house and trash. I love the folks who support the more trash the better movement.
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Originally posted by interventor:
I don't support the more trash the better. I carry a canvas bag into Sam's club -- no bags provided. But, I don't carry several bags into the supermarket - paper or plastic, I don't care.

And, my late wife was a french babe, so I may make the joke, no!


Of course you can.
I am not sure how this thread swerved from a hot chick and a slimy lieing weasel, to being about tree farms, but I'll wade on in!
If a paper or lumber company owns the land, they should be able to harvest the lumber from that land. They should replace the timber and re-grow their "crop". Although I personally don't think that pine trees growing in rows can match the beauty of a diversified forrest, they can grow trees as crops. I got no problem with that. My problem comes when they cut down all their trees and want to take mine! Mine (and yours) are in the National Forrest, and should be left alone period!!!! They shouldn't be "managed" or whatever the current Bush term is for allowing the National Forrest to be logged, for any reason. Lumber companies-- Keep your hands off my trees".
Lumber companies aren't the only problem here, but that's enough for this time.
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Originally posted by excelman:
I am not sure how this thread swerved from a hot chick and a slimy lieing weasel, to being about tree farms, but I'll wade on in!
If a paper or lumber company owns the land, they should be able to harvest the lumber from that land. They should replace the timber and re-grow their "crop". Although I personally don't think that pine trees growing in rows can match the beauty of a diversified forrest, they can grow trees as crops. I got no problem with that. My problem comes when they cut down all their trees and want to take mine! Mine (and yours) are in the National Forrest, and should be left alone period!!!! They shouldn't be "managed" or whatever the current Bush term is for allowing the National Forrest to be logged, for any reason. Lumber companies-- Keep your hands off my trees".
Lumber companies aren't the only problem here, but that's enough for this time.


Excel - As usual, a well worded and reasonable post. I agree.
Sheryl Crow's suggestion about toilet paper sounds like a joke.

As as far cutting down trees I have read a number of times in differnt publications how certain huge corproations are devestating forests and then moving on. I remember one about a company cutting down something like a million trees a year and have seen pictures of devestated landscapes.

Corporations pay PR firms millions of dollars to twist the truth, like the title of a book I saw about it, "Toxic Sludge is Good for You."
Fact: young trees produce more oxygen than mature trees.
Fact: it takes about 25 years for a Pine tree to mature.
Fact: clear cutting and replanting produces more oxygenation than leaving the forest alone.
Fact: Timber replenishment on PRIVATE land is not sufficient to meet demand for lumber and pulp for paper.
Fact: Tree Cutting for lumber must be done selectively. Taking the mature tree for timber, and leaving the immature trees is actually beneficial to the forest.
Fact: Hardwood, harvested for the lumber industry in a selective manner is totally sustainable only if the natural regeneration of the forest is respected.

Fact: KARL ROVE reacted like a mouse in a room full of cats. He knows he is hated. He knows why he is hated. He has no idea who his friends may be. He is not stupid, he is EVIL.

He made his own hell, and he has to take the consequence of being afraid, terrorized, all the time. I would not trade places with him for any of the "rewards" he has garnered.

Put me next to a "Hot Chick" and the chances are that she will be the one saying "Don't Touch Me." But I know myself pretty well.
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Originally posted by loggedin:
Ms Crow has something in common with the lefty cult hero, Theodore Kaczynski. Personal hygiene was not his strong suit either.

If you meet this woman, do not shake her hand.


Ms Crow knows a crook when she see one,like Rove!Rove a Rightie from the far right!
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Originally posted by Pogo142:
Sheryl Crow's suggestion about toilet paper sounds like a joke.

As as far cutting down trees I have read a number of times in differnt publications how certain huge corproations are devestating forests and then moving on. I remember one about a company cutting down something like a million trees a year and have seen pictures of devestated landscapes.

Corporations pay PR firms millions of dollars to twist the truth, like the title of a book I saw about it, "Toxic Sludge is Good for You."


Well Said!!
"Ms Crow knows a crook when she see one"

Oh yes, I am sure she does know a crook when she sees one. She hangs out with Globully Warmed Laurie David. That is her on the, uh, right.

Did you see her movie about the drowning polar bears? Or was that a movie about a swimming Teddy Kennedy? You know, the commander of the submarine, SS Oldsmobile.

A poor attempt at humor. Actually it was a poor attempt at anything. Its cute when you have no argument you revert to Teddy Kennedy. Not even a good try - I give it a thumbs down. Lost that one kiddo.

They both look pretty good - should never have moved that rock where rove was hiding.
if sheryl crow fell off the face of the earth, I'd not lose one minutes sleep. for whatever reason, I find her work repulsive. and since when she become the litmus test for whats good/evil in the world? the entertainment industry needs to stick to entertaining, not preaching! Roll Eyes
The purpose of National Forests is to provide sustainable forest products for present and future generations. That's why they're under Agriculture.

The purpose of National Parks is to protect unique natural areas in pepertuity. That's why they are under Interior.

It is in the interest of lumber companies to replant. It ensures a product for the future. In between, the land regrow as pasture and glades -- important to wildlife such as deer. Both pine forests and terminal hard wood forests are not good areas for large wildlife to feed.


Rosie O'Donnell had the perfecr answer to Crow. "Have you seen my ass?" Not for a small fortune, thank you!
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by monster:
I just have a problem with these rich, pampered, hollywood elitists telling us how we should live. sweep your own doorstep before you start criticizing mine!


I would say the same thing about pandering politicos.
...from both sides of the aisle.
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Originally posted by monster:
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by monster:
I just have a problem with these rich, pampered, hollywood elitists telling us how we should live. sweep your own doorstep before you start criticizing mine!


I would say the same thing about pandering politicos.
...from both sides of the aisle.


But all she wants to do is have some fun. I can't believe she's the only one.
I see the word "elitis" has entered the argument here regarding those on the left.I heard the term used a lot in the past presidental election referring to Kerry and the "Eastern elitists"
When I researched the word 'elitists', I discovered that it was usually applied to professors, and phylosophers. In other words, smart people.
This beggs the question- if elitists , the smart people, are mostly Democrats, then what party do dumb people associate with?
Just food for thought.
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Originally posted by excelman:
I see the word "elitis" has entered the argument here regarding those on the left.I heard the term used a lot in the past presidental election referring to Kerry and the "Eastern elitists"
When I researched the word 'elitists', I discovered that it was usually applied to professors, and phylosophers. In other words, smart people.
This beggs the question- if elitists , the smart people, are mostly Democrats, then what party do dumb people associate with?
Just food for thought.
I was the one who used that term, and I in no way pinned it on either party. it was used to describe the wealthy entertainers who think they are next to God, who try to tell us "little people" how we should or shouldn't live. you read too much into my post.
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
A poor attempt at humor. Actually it was a poor attempt at anything.


True, but it is a perfect match of your post "Sheryl Crow Touched Satan and he recoiled."

"They both look pretty good"

Yes, a couple of t*rds can be polished but guess what, they will still smell like a couple of t*rds. Especially at dinner time.

On the positive side, maybe Ms Crow's next scratch and sniff album could be titled, "I may smell like I didn't wipe my azz ... but I look good."
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Originally posted by loggedin:
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
A poor attempt at humor. Actually it was a poor attempt at anything.


True, but it is a perfect match of your post "Sheryl Crow Touched Satan and he recoiled."

"They both look pretty good"

Yes, a couple of t*rds can be polished but guess what, they will still smell like a couple of t*rds. Especially at dinner time.

On the positive side, maybe Ms Crow's next scratch and sniff album could be titled, "I may smell like I didn't wipe my azz ... but I look good."


Given that even bush refers to rove as "turd blossom" - perhaps he would know another one when he saw one.
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Originally posted by monster:
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Originally posted by excelman:
I see the word "elitis" has entered the argument here regarding those on the left.I heard the term used a lot in the past presidental election referring to Kerry and the "Eastern elitists"
When I researched the word 'elitists', I discovered that it was usually applied to professors, and phylosophers. In other words, smart people.
This beggs the question- if elitists , the smart people, are mostly Democrats, then what party do dumb people associate with?
Just food for thought.
I was the one who used that term, and I in no way pinned it on either party. it was used to describe the wealthy entertainers who think they are next to God, who try to tell us "little people" how we should or shouldn't live. you read too much into my post.
excelman, I think that you are right on the full etymology of Elite. It derives from Latin eligere, meaning the choice part. It is always applicable to the leadership of the nation. They are elite. But, Elitism is the belief there are people, who by right of birth or accomplishment deserve positions of leadership. People who subscribe to this belief are elitists.

Examples of the "American Elite" in positions of power do come from both sides of the aisle. John F Kennedy is an example of a Liberal who was born to wealth and power. George W. Bush is an example of a Neo Conservative who was born to wealth and power.

JFK and his brother, Ted, both openly admit, even proclaim their elite roots.

GW Bush not only hides his elite roots, but he professes "common man" status with his affected accent, his cowboy poses and even the arrival on the Aircraft Carrier aboard a Jet plane. He departed in a less spectacular manner. Even using the Air Craft Carrier was a pose, that speech could have been made on the steps of a Mosque. With very different effect.
And, I am off topic again. Calling Cheryl Crow "elite" is just and proper use of the term. She is an elite member of the entertainment industry.

The problem with the corruption of meaning as committed by monster, is that She is not in the elite of American Politics. She was being used, in the context of the dinner, as part of the "pose" of reaching out to the "little guy."

She was there to add glamor to the party. Eye candy if you will. Rove's reaction to having his coat sleeve touched was the reaction of an elitist being touched by a commoner. Or, a paranoid being touched by anyone.

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