Originally posted by monster:
Originally posted by excelman:
I see the word "elitis" has entered the argument here regarding those on the left.I heard the term used a lot in the past presidental election referring to Kerry and the "Eastern elitists"
When I researched the word 'elitists', I discovered that it was usually applied to professors, and phylosophers. In other words, smart people.
This beggs the question- if elitists , the smart people, are mostly Democrats, then what party do dumb people associate with?
Just food for thought.
I was the one who used that term, and I in no way pinned it on either party. it was used to describe the wealthy entertainers who think they are next to God, who try to tell us "little people" how we should or shouldn't live. you read too much into my post.
excelman, I think that you are right on the full etymology of Elite. It derives from Latin eligere, meaning the choice part. It is always applicable to the leadership of the nation. They are elite. But, Elitism is the belief there are people, who by right of birth or accomplishment deserve positions of leadership. People who subscribe to this belief are elitists.
Examples of the "American Elite" in positions of power do come from both sides of the aisle. John F Kennedy is an example of a Liberal who was born to wealth and power. George W. Bush is an example of a Neo Conservative who was born to wealth and power.
JFK and his brother, Ted, both openly admit, even proclaim their elite roots.
GW Bush not only hides his elite roots, but he professes "common man" status with his affected accent, his cowboy poses and even the arrival on the Aircraft Carrier aboard a Jet plane. He departed in a less spectacular manner. Even using the Air Craft Carrier was a pose, that speech could have been made on the steps of a Mosque. With very different effect.
And, I am off topic again. Calling Cheryl Crow "elite" is just and proper use of the term. She is an elite member of the entertainment industry.
The problem with the corruption of meaning as committed by monster, is that She is not in the elite of American Politics. She was being used, in the context of the dinner, as part of the "pose" of reaching out to the "little guy."
She was there to add glamor to the party. Eye candy if you will. Rove's reaction to having his coat sleeve touched was the reaction of an elitist being touched by a commoner. Or, a paranoid being touched by anyone.