Hi to my Forum Friends,
In the earlier discussion I began, titled "America Is A Nation 'WITH' Immigrants - Not A Nation 'OF' Immigrants!' -- my new Forum Friend, Reynaldo, who has admitted to being an illegal immigrant who grew up in California, tells us, "And if you think illegals are going to go through a process that takes a long time for them to be a citizen, then you are crazy. They rather just come in and work and make a better community instead of dealing with all that PAPERWORK!"
Yes, Reynaldo, many people from other countries would just RATHER come into America and work. But, since they cannot climb a fence or swim the Rio Grande -- they have to go through legal channels. Should people from South America and Mexico -- not to mention the many thousands from other countries, and including terrorists, who come into America through Mexico -- be allowed a privileged status? No.
I have many Friends from other nations who go through legal channels to bring their families, their spouses, children, parents, siblings, to America to live with them. And, guess what -- many of them wait five, ten years for legal permission. Don't you think they would, as you have said about Hispanics -- love to have their family in America tomorrow? Yet, they do it through legal channels, they are legal immigrants -- and they are welcomed with open arms. Why should people from south of our borders be treated differently, given special status -- just because they can climb a fence?
Then, Reynaldo tells us, "They are not bothering you, so you shouldn't worry about them. Unless they are coming into your house and destroying property, then yes."
So, Reynaldo, if you saw people breaking into and burglarizing your neighbor's home -- you would just look the other way; because they are not breaking into your home -- right? Wrong!
And, illegal immigrants ARE robbing every single taxpaying American citizen. The tax money spent on welfare, medical, law enforcement, education, and many other areas of American society -- to support the illegal immigrant communities -- IS robbing Americans. It is robbing every single American citizen.
Next, Reynaldo, you declare, "Oh and i Know a truck load of Illegals that have helped out people in Alabama's tornado destruction by bringing them hot food, water, boots, and everything else. You think any of those people rejected their food or unwelcomed them? NO, they took the food and said God Bless You."
Was that a good deed, a welcomed and blessed good deed? Yes. And, as you said, I am sure it was appreciated. However, if someone robs your home, i.e, your nation -- and then comes to offer you help; does this make his/her illegal activity any less illegal? No. Robin Hood was just a fictional story.
Reynaldo tells us, "Assimilating. And its not that they don't respect the laws, its just that it takes a long time to become a citizen. I know these people personally, and what their intentions are."
You say the illegals from south of the border are assimilating. Then, why do I quite frequently meet Hispanics, of all ages, who cannot speak at least a smidgen of English? And, many of these people have been in America for years. Why does our government have to pay the financial burden to print every document and form in multiple languages -- if they are assimilated?
A few years ago, a new family moved in next door to me. All during the day, the mother had her music blasting and when I would knock on her door and ask her to lower it, all I got was, "No habla Ingles!" Finally, I got fed up and went to the complex management about it. Later that day, as I was walking toward the office, my neighbor lady was walking toward me. When we met, she angrily asked, "Why did you complain to management about me?" And, my response, "Oh, wonderful, you have miraculously learned to speak English! See what a great help I was to you?"
And, I have met many, many people who have had the same experience -- when they do not want to answer, "No habla Ingles!" You call this assimilation? I call it arrogance and deceit.
You tell us, "Nobody leaves their home country to go to another to kill people, to disrespect anyone, and to form gangs. Your kids are probably in a gang. They come here to work and have a better life. Every nationality has their own people that break laws. For example, people do marijuana. Is it legal? No it's not, but people still do it. What kind of people do it? Whites, Blacks, Browns, everybody does it. That is just an example. Do you think there is time to deport and care for all the illegals? No."
So, because there are American citizens who break our laws -- we should just look the other way when 12,000,000 from south of the border break our laws by entering America illegally? Somehow, that logic just does not sit well with me. We have lawbreakers in America -- so, we should welcome 12, 000,000 more to add to our already overburdened economy? That logic just seems to elude me.
You say, "They come here to work and have a better life."
So, that justifies breaking the laws of America -- "I want a better life!" ? Well, guess what, Reynaldo, many, many Americans want a better life also. But, we do not resort to doing things that are illegal to obtain that better life. And, how many thieves, burglars, muggers, etc., do you suppose would say the same thing, "I just want a better life!" Fine, get your better life -- but, get it legally.
And, Reynaldo, you tell us, "Don't U.S. citizens misuse social resources, emergency medical services, your already burdened judicial system. Sure not all of them, and also not all the Illegals. They are a drain on your public education system? How?"
Once again, you are using the logic that because some American citizens misuse and illegally use our social resources -- we should welcome 12, 000,000 more to do the same. No, those Americans who are doing this should be prosecuted. And, those illegals who are guilty -- and they all are guilty of breaking our laws when they entered America illegally -- should be deported. Short and sweet.
If you then want to reenter America legally -- we welcome you with open arms.
What? You say that is too much trouble? Fine, then stay in Mexico or whatever country is your home country.
You ask, "They are a drain on your public education system? How?"
Our schools are already having to stretch their dwindling budgets, have much larger class sizes, close many schools, and make the teachers carry heavier loads. Add the burden to have multi-lingual teachers to that already overtaxed school system. And, this is just the tip of the iceberg in evaluating the burden of illegals flowing into our school systems.
And, finally, Reynaldo tells us, "Do you know how many Illegal students in the state of California have the knowledge to become a doctor but simply can't because they don't have a green card? To me that's just stupid not letting a person care for someone else's health because of not having a green card."
Would you to to a doctor who is not licensed? Would you go to a doctor who does not have a medical degree? Would you take your children to a clinic which is not certified by the Medical Board? If they want to be in the medical field -- let them get their education, Green Card, and pass the certification exam.
If they are intelligent enough to earn a medical degree -- one would assume they are intelligent enough to get their Green Card. And, since it takes about eight years or more to earn a medical degree -- that gives them plenty of time to do the legal paperwork. Sounds like a win-win situation to me.
Now let's talk about a people who have a much higher percentage of working doctors, nurses, and medical personal -- the Filipino people. Go to almost any hospital and you will find a large number of Filipino people working in the medical field. Years ago, at the time of the wedding of Charles and Diane, I was in the hospital for a stomach problem. My doctor was a Filipina and virtually all the nurses in that hospital were Filipino. I got a kick out of many of the nurses. Since they knew my wife was a Filipina, many of them would sneak into my room periodically to watch the wedding on television with us.
But, guess what, Reynaldo? All of these people went through the normal channels to be working in the medical field in America. None of them were given the special privilege you say we should give to people who climb the fence.
I know many Filipinos who were working doctors, dentists, etc., before immigrating to America. Now, many of them are working, not as doctors, but as lab techs, nurses, etc. -- as they also work to pass the American Medical Board to get their license to practice in America. Yet, you say that we just let these people work through the normal channels, take years to accomplish their goals -- but, we should make the way easier for those from south of the border to immediately get their Green Card and credentials?
Once again, your logic reeks of bias -- negative bias against everyone who would tell you to work for the privilege of being an American citizen.
Maybe, just possibly, if those "Illegal students in the state of California" you mentioned and whom you claim deserve special treatment -- would take the time to go through normal, legal channels -- and would stop spending their time in protest marches, picketing, and demanding their "rights" (which they do not have because they are illegal) -- they would have time to get their Green Cards and solve their problems.
By the way, who is paying for the education of these "Illegal students in the state of California"? Another burden on an already bankrupt state of California?
Reynaldo, work with us and we welcome you with open arms. Keep arrogantly demanding your illegal rights and demanding that California, Arizona, and New Mexico be returned to Mexico -- and we say, "Welcome to the bus for the border. Please have your 'south of the border' government send reimbursement checks for your deportation expenses, soon!"
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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