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Please take note I have never tried it, but I have no problems with those who do.


In my lifetime I have smoked probably less than a ton... Big Grin


I had much rather deal with someone with a pot buzz than a drunk.

Yes, marijuana should be legal.

BTW...I guess I should add...I don't do any mind altering substances anymore. Been clean about 10 yrs now. Once was WAY over the edge.
There is absolutely no reason why marijuana should be illegal. It was made illegal because politicians were afraid Mexicans & Jamaicans were going to corrupt the white women with it. The only thing the ban on marijuana has accomplished is increasing the problem with harsh drugs, increase crime, and punish innocent people who just want to enjoy the benefits of a plant God made.

I gave it up about 7 years ago, but I'm still hoping one day it will be legalized again in my lifetime.
No doubt that marijuana should be legal. As others have said, the only reason it is illegal is because of propaganda that made (very gullible) people think that their teens would jump out the window or put a baby in the oven if they dared try the evil marijuana.

I don't think anyone realistically believes that anymore. It is a drug that you can't overdose on, so there is no danger there. There is some question as to whether or not it is addictive (I tend to think mildly)so that is a concern. However, it is far less addictive than alcohol or nicotine (or any so called hard drug) and the withdrawal symptoms from marijuana are not very intense at all.

Bottom line, it should be legal
it should be but to much money is being made by the drug lords and politicans who want things to stay just like they are. IF it ever did it should be used in the industry world,clothing ,paper etc,that wouldnt be worth smoking any way. grow the really good stuff for medical use and if i choose to have some growing in my back yard for personal use it aint nobodys business. but thats to easy....
I've stated my position on this in past posts but to hit the high points. (pun intended)
1- A new cash crop for farmers
2- A new source of tax dollars
3- Different grades for the end use, this could be based on climate growing season ect.
4- Better control on underage use
5- Money saved on the hopeless inforcement, could be put to better use.
I could go on and on but you get the picture.
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Originally posted by Mott The Hoople:
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But there should be some control/limits as to its possession and usage.


Such as?


for recreational use it would need to be treated like alcohol. can't have young children burning blunts. once you reach legal age, have at it. in the real world, we know that some kids will get access to it. punish them and instill respect for the law. of course we can talk more about adult consumption and personal cultivation....
Absolutely! It was never my drug of choice (I'm a recovering alcoholic) but have been involved with or married to regular users as well as drunks. Of the two, I prefered the potheads; at least they didn't get violent like the drunks did.

I've been reading various studies about pot for over 20 years and thus far no one has been able to convince me that there is any REAL reason for marijuana to remain illegal.

As for the usual 'gateway drug' arguement; if one didn't have to deal with criminals to buy it one would be less likely to be offered 'deals' on the harder stuff like cocaine, crack or meth.
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Originally posted by miamizsun:
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Originally posted by Mott The Hoople:
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But there should be some control/limits as to its possession and usage.


Such as?


for recreational use it would need to be treated like alcohol. can't have young children burning blunts. once you reach legal age, have at it. in the real world, we know that some kids will get access to it. punish them and instill respect for the law. of course we can talk more about adult consumption and personal cultivation....


miamizsun... young children are already burning blunts, whose idea do you think blunts were!!! It has to be made legal to keep the youth of today away from it as much as possible.... Should be treated as a DUI, if driving, PI if using in public places and aren't in control, using ID's to purchase and signatures, and only a certain amount per person in a certain length of time... And if an "underage" smoker is caught, send them to juvvie... guess that is one way, maybe not... but otherwise, it would be hard to really legislate it all...

I am agreeing mostly here with themax... legalizing marijuana would sure help with the Nation's deficit, lol... but like someone else said, even some of our politicians "like things the way they are"...

People doesn't have to be a user to be for legalizing it... I don't use alcohol not do I use marijuana, but I have friends who "tie one on" sometimes, and call me because they know I will get them home, safe and sound. I don't know many people who actualy use marijuana, probably because of my age, occupation and such, but I think it is their God=Given right to use it, it was grown for a purpose, as was everything.

Know why it won't ever be legal? Because the PEOPLE want it legal, and those who control laws dont give a hoot about what the people want..... odd huh?? Since the people are the ones ''supposed'' to be voting them in....
I think it should be legal. The government probably sees a problem with controlling it for tax purposes and that is why it hasn't been legalized. How many plants would someone be allowed to grow for personal useage? How would the government get their tax money on it if you grew more than could be described as "for personal use". What's to keep someone from selling some to their friend(s)? The government hasn't figured out how they are going to collect the tax dollars on these personal sells. Moonshine was a little easier to control (revenuers) than legalized pot would be.

I tried it as a teenager and a few times in my early twenties but it just wasn't something I cared for personally. I've been around many who did use it. My personal belief is that it can be addictive to some like acohol is addictive to some. Neither one is nearly as addictive as tobacco is and it's legal.

Put it on the next Presidental Election ballot and let the people decide. My vote goes for legalizing it.
If you get the chance, go to the Florence/Lauderdale Public Library and rent THE PARTY'S OVER. It was actually a documentary by Phillip Seymour Hoffman (the guy who played Truman Capote, what a stretch) about the 2000 presidential election and showed clips from the Green party, but there was one interesting observation about how the prisons are filled with convicts who only crime was simple possession of marijuana and how The partnership for a drug free America is a lobbying arm of the big pharmacutical companies and the liqour industry. There is also a great breakdown on how half of all we spend on law enforcement and half of all we spend on prisons today is on marijuana. I donated it, hope you enjoy or at least learn something new. THE DOG
Yes it should be made legal. Those who smoke it are going to smoke it anyway - legal or not. Legalizing it would allow for regulation and taxation. Instead of drug lords in Mexico getting rich our farmers and road funds could get much needed support.

I don't see any difference in the typical American who drinks a six pack a weekend and a person who smokes marijuana. Some people prefer the effects of marijuana over alcohol. I've gone overboard on both in the past and pot has never resulted in my laying in my own vomit.
The main reason for it being illegal is it would be incredibly hard to tax. It requires little "curing" like tobacco, so people can grow it in thier homes. Uncle Sam has to have his share of the money. Plus, look at the economy of prohabition. How many jobs are created by pot being illegal? From the Federal level down, DEA, Prison, local task forces...
Another observation - the battle to legalize pot reminds me very much of the wet/dry elections Lauderdale and Florence when I was a teenager (and before, I'm sure!). Bootleggers, state line beer joints and ALL the area preachers were on the same side in those battles, just like the drug dealers and drug companies are now.

Frankly, if you'd told me 35 years ago that Florence would 'go wet' I would've laughed in your face, so maybe there is hope on the horizon!
I think a big part of marijuana not already being decriminalized, or better yet, legalized, has to do with the remnants of the Greatest Generation and some of the Baby Boomers who are still involved in our legislature and law making bodies. I did a research paper a little over a year ago in which I studied the history of marijuana being criminalized back in the late 30's. I also read the entire report of the commission that was set forth by Richard Nixon to study the effects of marijuana and determine whether or not it should be legal. Another big component of marijuana still being illegal is most likely the difficulty the government would have taxing it. This is, of course, my speculative opinion.
Marijuana should definitely be legalized. I'm only in my mid-20's now but when I was in my later teens, I smoked pot everyday. Not only did it not impair my ability to drive; it caused me to pay closer attention to what I was doing. Not that i'm a little older, i've had to quit totally because you can't find a job if you test positive for THC, which most people know is the active ingredient in marijuana. Another few reasons that it should be legalized is because it is not chemically addictive, whereas alcohol and cigarettes are. New research suggests that smoking marijuana slows the progression of Alzheimer's disease. If anyone has witnessed the effects of this terrible disease, anything that slows the progression of it is Heaven sent. In Holland where drugs have been decriminalized, the studies done following the decriminalization, show that all drug use, including pot, actually decreased. There has to be something to all this and the fact that people in charge of this country aren't taking some kind of action is really sad. If we live in a free country the we should have the "FREEDOM" to smoke pot if we want. Furthermore, there needs to be a drug test that can show the last time that you smoked pot. If I want to smoke pot when I get home from work then I should be able to without worrying about a drug test from work. What people do on there on time is there own business. Since there is no such test, that I know of, I have to abstain from smoking it all together. Please keeep in mind that I would never smoke pot and go to work because I see no difference in doing that and drinking before work. In conclusion, I want to say that, hopefully, one day soon marijuana will be legalized in other states and that will prompt our lawmakers to take a second look at the laws against marijuana. THANK YOU!
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Originally posted by Alabama Atheist:
I think a big part of marijuana not already being decriminalized, or better yet, legalized, has to do with the remnants of the Greatest Generation and some of the Baby Boomers who are still involved in our legislature and law making bodies. I did a research paper a little over a year ago in which I studied the history of marijuana being criminalized back in the late 30's. I also read the entire report of the commission that was set forth by Richard Nixon to study the effects of marijuana and determine whether or not it should be legal. Another big component of marijuana still being illegal is most likely the difficulty the government would have taxing it. This is, of course, my speculative opinion.


Reckon that is what is wrong with our Political Leaders? lol...makes sense!
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Originally posted by Shiroshi:
The main reason for it being illegal is it would be incredibly hard to tax. It requires little "curing" like tobacco, so people can grow it in thier homes. Uncle Sam has to have his share of the money. Plus, look at the economy of prohabition. How many jobs are created by pot being illegal? From the Federal level down, DEA, Prison, local task forces...


That, opposed to the ZERO tax they get right now should still persuade lawmakers to make it legal. Heck, I hate the stuff, but I would MUCH rather share the highway with someone smoking pot than somone drunk... that is a no-brainer!
Nope, it should remain illegal. It is a gateway drug (I ain't never met or dealt with a meth head, a crack addict or any other druggie that did not start with pot). You'll never convince me, or anybody else who's delt with drug addicts that it's not a gateway drug. Potheads don't act like drunks because it's a different high than alcohol. But a pothead is just as, if not more, dangerous when driving than an alchy. Where an alcoholic drunk's reaction time is delayed and off, a pothead may well just forget what it takes to safely drive all together. Potheads are also some of the most paranoid druggies there are. And the dang stuff just stinks to high heaven when it's burnt.
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Nope, it should remain illegal. It is a gateway drug (I ain't never met or dealt with a meth head, a crack addict or any other druggie that did not start with pot). You'll never convince me, or anybody else who's delt with drug addicts that it's not a gateway drug. Potheads don't act like drunks because it's a different high than alcohol. But a pothead is just as, if not more, dangerous when driving than an alchy. Where an alcoholic drunk's reaction time is delayed and off, a pothead may well just forget what it takes to safely drive all together. Potheads are also some of the most paranoid druggies there are. And the dang stuff just stinks to high heaven when it's burnt.


You're right, pot is a gateway drug that can lead to harsher drugs. The reason it's a gateway drug is because it's illegal. Take away the drug dealer's best tool for selling hard drugs and it will no longer be a gateway drug.

As for driving, it does impair your ability to drive. You don't forget how to drive, but reaction time and depth perception is impaired. I don't think it should be legal to drive under the influence of pot, it should be regulated just as alcohol is now.
Well I personally think it should be legal unless you are caught driving under the influence to the point of obvious impairment. Besides the govt. is in the drug business, look at the cia, every country they get involved with ends up with a drug problem. they fund wars with much harsher drugs then pot so whats the crime in smoking a little. Beside you can get a tax license to sell it in lauderdle county, but you just cant sell it.....Hmmmm... somthing don't seem right with that ya' know. Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by bluesmann:
Facts, not myths. Fact prescription drugs cause about 100,000 deaths per year in the U.S. Fact, every 15 minutes someone is killed from an alcohol accident on the road. Fact, tobacco products causes around 625,000 deaths per year in the U.S. and there is not health benefits from tobacco. Fact, the gateway drugs are more likly caused from prescription drugs, such as lortabs or percocet, etc. Fact, alcohol, tobacco and precriptions drugs are all legal, and kill far more people in the U.S. than marjuana.




FACT: Just because playing tag with a grizzly bear is likely to cause you extreme injury doesn't make it all right to slap at a hornet's nest.

Just because alcohol, tobacco and prescription drugs cause death and injury doesn't make marijuana a safe alternative.

And the dang stuff just stinks awful when it's burnt.
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Originally posted by NashBama:
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Just because alcohol, tobacco and prescription drugs cause death and injury doesn't make marijuana a safe alternative.


No one said it's an alternative.


OK....Just because alcohol, tobacco and prescription drugs cause death and injury doesn't make marijuana safe.....period.
after all the lies an outright propaganda the u.s. government has put out on marijuana how can you believe anything our government says about anything.I have never seen a picture of a dead body with a joint next to it as the cause of death.legallizing marijuana would mean lossing controll of it for the ones that controll it now and all that money so dont look for change anytime soon.
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There have been several posts in this thread that infer, if not downright state, that marijuana is not harmful, or is substantially less harmful than alcohol or prescription drugs. See the posts by bluesmann, for example.

And nobody has challenged my statement that the dang stuff just stinks when it's burnt


People have died from overdosing on alcohol, prescription drugs, and both. No one in history has ever died from marijuana alone.

Pot doesn't stink that bad, cigars smell much worse.

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