Should we be celebrating Helen Keller?

Was fighting in Korea and Vietnam a fight to keep us free? I think not my friend. It was to combat communism and socialism .

Of course I do background checks on all of my patients. I have to know why I'm doing what it is I do for them. You can't very well diagnose a patient if you don't know what's wrong with them. You also can't properly treat them if you don't know their history. They could be allergic to the meds one might prescribe.
Man, I was raised in Tuscumbia and never knew such a deceptive, mean, DANGEROUS, person was from here. It is a wonder they even let her live! I can't believe she made it through life as long as see did. She was such a threat to our way of life she should have been beheaded on the courthouse lawn. What nerve! Having her own opinion!! That's outrageous!!

Now, seriously, if you don't care for her it's OK. Not everyone did I'm quite sure. But, at least find something she was actively doing or not doing to dislike her for. Not just a belief she had. She never ran for office on a Socialist ticket, did she?

I read an earlier post of someone admitting to be atheist and nobody tore in to them. I guess someone who has been dead since 1968 is just an easier target.
This is all too funny. Since mid-20th century Asian, and Russian Communism was totalitarian it was NOT neccessarily the ideology we were fighting - it was the fact that those regimes/dictatorships gave no voice to the opposition. WE supported the opposition and fought to free people from regimes that denied them proper representation and political freedom. Of course we fought Communist totalitarianism and agression. But some of our allies, England, France, Italy, etc. all indulged in experiments with Socialism yet fought with us against Communism (although all three of the nations still have Communists in their governments -(minute numbers).
There seems to be a disconnect here between political freedom and deeds of great bravery and a great contribution to society. Helen Keller was a great woman and an American. Her interest in a failed political ideology is of no interest to me and clearly of no interest to the Federal Government.
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
This is all too funny. Since mid-20th century Asian, and Russian Communism was totalitarian it was NOT neccessarily the ideology we were fighting - it was the fact that those regimes/dictatorships gave no voice to the opposition. WE supported the opposition and fought to free people from regimes that denied them proper representation and political freedom. Of course we fought Communist totalitarianism and agression. But some of our allies, England, France, Italy, etc. all indulged in experiments with Socialism yet fought with us against Communism (although all three of the nations still have Communists in their governments -(minute numbers).
There seems to be a disconnect here between political freedom and deeds of great bravery and a great contribution to society. Helen Keller was a great woman and an American. Her interest in a failed political ideology is of no interest to me and clearly of no interest to the Federal Government.
Big Grin meanasasnake Big Grin

AMEN, AMEN, AMEN
DHS-86, Who said she was dangerous? Aren't you over reacting just a bit?

"Helen Keller was a great woman and an American. Her interest in a failed political ideology is of no interest to me and clearly of no interest to the Federal Government." quote from meansnake.

Accoording to Meansake,PBA and Edkit, the Federal Gov. with Bush in control is turning into a dictatorship anyway so they would want HK on our currency. The new democrats are no longer democrats they are socialist, so they would want HK on currency also. Go figure...? Big Grin
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Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
DHS-86, Who said she was dangerous? Aren't you over reacting just a bit?

"Helen Keller was a great woman and an American. Her interest in a failed political ideology is of no interest to me and clearly of no interest to the Federal Government." quote from meansnake.

Accoording to Meansake,PBA and Edkit, the Federal Gov. with Bush in control is turning into a dictatorship anyway so they would want HK on our currency. The new democrats are no longer democrats they are socialist, so they would want HK on currency also. Go figure...? Big Grin


Hysterical, nonsensical babble - totally lost it.
I have never said - not once - that Bush is turning anything into a "dictatorship". Also, I find it hard to beleave that our esteemed Gov.Bob Riley, being a good card carrying Republican would share your opinion of Helen Keller. Why dont you ask him why he went along with it? Maybe it was those commie/pinko senators of ours, Shelby and Sessions. This was interesting, now that we have entered lala land - I am done. Talk about yer radical right.
Governor Siegelman unveiled the design, for the Alabama state quarter, at Epic School before an auditorium filled with elementary school students. "‘Spirit of Courage’ represents the strength, perseverance and positive attitude of Alabamians who, from their earliest habitation, have shown remarkable courage,” Siegelman said. “Embodying such courage in the face of overwhelming challenges was Helen Keller, whose life and spirit continue to inspire generations the world over.”
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Governor Siegelman unveiled the design, for the Alabama state quarter, at Epic School before an auditorium filled with elementary school students. "‘Spirit of Courage’ represents the strength, perseverance and positive attitude of Alabamians who, from their earliest habitation, have shown remarkable courage,” Siegelman said. “Embodying such courage in the face of overwhelming challenges was Helen Keller, whose life and spirit continue to inspire generations the world over.”
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Governor Riley and former Miss Alabama Heather Whitestone were in attendence at the official unvieling in Tuscumbia. Siegelman had left office.
In January 2001, Governor Don Siegelman announced a statewide competition for Alabama schools to submit concepts for the Alabama quarter. Of the thousands of concepts submitted, Governor Siegelman forwarded three to the United States Mint: Helen Keller, Alabama's role in social movements, and Alabama's social and economic history. The United States Mint returned five candidate designs to the Governor's office where the final selection of Helen Keller, "Spirit of Courage," was made.
Source: US Mint
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In January 2001, Governor Don Siegelman announced a statewide competition for Alabama schools to submit concepts for the Alabama quarter. Of the thousands of concepts submitted, Governor Siegelman forwarded three to the United States Mint: Helen Keller, Alabama's role in social movements, and Alabama's social and economic history. The United States Mint returned five candidate designs to the Governor's office where the final selection of Helen Keller, "Spirit of Courage," was made.
Source: US Mint
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STATE OF ALABAMA

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BOB RILEY
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March 13, 2003

Riley To Send Alabama’s Quarter Into Circulation

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Tuscumbia - Gov. Bob Riley will hold a ceremony later this month in Tuscumbia to officially launch Alabama’s quarter featuring Helen Keller into circulation.


The event will mark Alabama as the twenty-second state to be celebrated as a part of the 50 State Quarters Program. Our coin, however, has the distinction of being the first U.S. circulating coin to feature a reduced version of Braille writing.


"Parents should bring their children out to the ceremony to learn why we’re honoring such a special Alabamian," Riley said, adding that children attending will receive new Alabama quarters. "Helen Keller’s life and accomplishments cast a wonderful reflection upon the State of Alabama, and having her image on a national coin will undoubtedly remind us all of her courage and strength."


The ceremony is open to the public and will begin at 10 a.m., Monday, March 24, at the Ivy Green Estate, birthplace of Keller, located at 300 West North Commons, Tuscumbia. For directions and location information, please call the Helen Keller Birthplace Foundation at 256-383-4066.


Officials from the U.S. Mint and several noteworthy Alabamians will join Riley.


The Alabama quarter design features an image of Keller with her name printed in English and in a reduced-size version of Braille. Alabama long leaf pine branches and magnolias grace the sides of the design, and a "Spirit of Courage" banner underlines the central image.


Riley proclaimed next Wednesday, March 19, as "State Quarter Day in the Classroom" and encouraged teachers and parents across the state to discuss the coin and Keller with children.


Teachers and parents can find several activities and links about Alabama’s coin by visiting www.usmint.gov/kids and clicking the "State Quarter Day" icon.


While a congressman, Riley secured funding to establish the nation’s first junior college for the deaf and blind at the Alabama Institute for the Deaf and Blind in Talladega. He also began an effort to place a statue of Keller in the U.S. Capitol, which is still underway.


(Image of quarter attached. Courtesy of the U.S. Mint)







For more contact information, visit Governor Bob Riley's Web Site: http://www.governor.alabama.gov/

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Yeah. Bob Riley was there for the launch. Don Siegleman was in office when final selection of Helen Keller, "Spirit of Courage," was made. The selection was made before Riley was in office. Either-Or?? Apparently you and I both have agreeing opinions if you look at my reply on page one of this post. So, what's the facts you want me to check? Is there some disagreement I'm over looking from you?
Marxism is the most dangerous philosophy to arise since religion. Maybe that's why Marx didn't like religion...hmmm.

It seems obvious to us that Marxism is imcompatible with human nature. Few people are willing to work hard and produce just to have the fruits of their labor confiscated on behalf of "the people". To each according to his need, from each according to his ability is the road to enslavement and misery.

I also have observed that Marxism is an excuse for totalitarianism. It's the sugar coating that makes people believe their suffering is for their own good, and it's effective. Just look at Venezuela. Nonetheless, the best cure for Marxism is a **** stiff dose of it.

Helen Keller was caught up in the Marxist movement of the early 20th Century. Lots of people were, and their intentions were usually benevolent. Their experiences with Marxism certainly were not ours. Still, she should bear the responsibility for her affiliations, and her Marxism should be remembered, for better or worse.

DF
I have to admit: I got sucked into this forum after reading a few posts...lol I guess my opinions differ than many on here because for many, many years it took radicalism on some level and some subject to make little progress. Anyway, I found this article on the net which I thought was interesting...

[URL=http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAkeller.htm]
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Originally posted by bamagurl:
I have to admit: I got sucked into this forum after reading a few posts...lol I guess my opinions differ than many on here because for many, many years it took radicalism on some level and some subject to make little progress. Anyway, I found this article on the net which I thought was interesting...

Loved the link - particularly loved the photo of Keller with Eisenhower. Wonder how she escaped the McCarthy witch hunts of the 1950s?

[URL=http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAkeller.htm]
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You are one seriously skrewed up individual.

You are a poster boy case for why I agree so much with free speech... the louder they nutcases are, the easier it is to spot them!


Prove me wrong at anything I post on here. I enjoy the proving people that they don't know as much as they think they do. I also like to know when I maybe wrong, but it won't be this time. Big Grin
Am I the only one that finds this thread hilarious? Come on, Yo Bro, are you serious or just trying to yank someone's chain?

Helen Keller may have had political views I don't share, but her accomplishments are not disputable. I've lived in this area all my life & have never heard her political views spoken of. Since you too have lived here all your life, you know why she is remembered & that is has nothing to do with politics. She is remembered for overcoming her disability & more importantly, providing a way for others to do the same. This was her life goal & she accomplished it. I would love to be able to say that about myself.
Of course we should be honoring HK; not in spite of her socialism, but because of it! I'm telling you, Jesus was the ultimate communist/socialist! And, if you're a good Democrat, you should be shouting HK's cries for the common good as well. It looks like some of the Republicans are catching on!
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
YO, you bring up a VERY good point, one that I just bet ya that not many people either know, or have thought about!!!

I guess I need to Google Helen Keller now!!

Thanks Smiler




Helen Keller—an inspiring, courageous woman who fervently believed that blind people, with just a little help, can lead independent lives and give much more to society than they will ever take.
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Whoa!!! After reading those links, I have to say that to "HONOR" her would be a slap in every American's face!!!!

How did I get this OLD and only know about the Annie Sullivan who opened the world up to a young child.

This stuff I did not know... and I am glad you pointed it out to me. There will be NO Helen Keller Festival for ME this year!!! Mad




Yes, Helen Keller was a socialist. Ha,
Socialists are very proud of Helen Keller and she is a good example of what socialism means. But socialist then were more accepted and a little different then they are now. It was not so mainstream then but had more members. Today it is more of a fringe group. A shadow of it's former self.

Socialists are for peace and justice, workers rights, a fair sharing of profits for workers for their labor, a safety net and a government of the people, by the people that serves the people.

What's wrong with that?

Social Security and Public Schools are socialism and health care should be one too.

The Capitalist system is build on exploitation and they discredit socialism. They distort what it means.
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
Whoa!!! After reading those links, I have to say that to "HONOR" her would be a slap in every American's face!!!!

How did I get this OLD and only know about the Annie Sullivan who opened the world up to a young child.

This stuff I did not know... and I am glad you pointed it out to me. There will be NO Helen Keller Festival for ME this year!!! Mad




Yes, Helen Keller was a socialist. Ha,
Socialists are very proud of Helen Keller and she is a good example of what socialism means. But socialist then were more accepted and a little different then they are now. It was not so mainstream then but had more members. Today it is more of a fringe group. A shadow of it's former self.

Socialists are for peace and justice, workers rights, a fair sharing of profits for workers for their labor, a safety net and a government of the people, by the people that serves the people.

What's wrong with that?

Social Security and Public Schools are socialism and health care should be one too.

The Capitalist system is build on exploitation and they discredit socialism. They distort what it means.


Amen! I'm going where you're preachin'!

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