Was Hitler a member, and who all are members past and present. Go fetch.
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No, Alois' little pervert wasn't a member. Wasn't a Yalie, don't you know. And, don't go claiming he was a member thru the German dueling fraternities. I knew a few old members and they wouldn't have admitted him.
ThyssenKrupp does have some connection with Friz Thyssen and the Krupp corporation that supplied much of German weaponry. Allies broke Krupp into six corporations during the occupation.
ThyssenKrupp does have some connection with Friz Thyssen and the Krupp corporation that supplied much of German weaponry. Allies broke Krupp into six corporations during the occupation.
quote:Originally posted by bluesmann:
Was Hitler a member, and who all are members past and present. Go fetch.
http://ecosyn.us/Bush-Hitler/
I've commented on the Thule Society in previous posting. It owes its roots more to Madame Blavatsky. Skull and Bones predates Thule by a century.
As to the link to Bush-Hitler, its the same old crapola warmed over for leftists. Start with belief in age spanning secret societies and you end up with the tin foil hat brigade sipping grape koolaid.
As to the link to Bush-Hitler, its the same old crapola warmed over for leftists. Start with belief in age spanning secret societies and you end up with the tin foil hat brigade sipping grape koolaid.
quote:Originally posted by interventor:
I've commented on the Thule Society in previous posting. It owes its roots more to Madame Blavatsky. Skull and Bones predates Thule by a century.
As to the link to Bush-Hitler, its the same old crapola warmed over for leftists. Start with belief in age spanning secret societies and you end up with the tin foil hat brigade sipping grape koolaid.
Amen!
Interestingly, the whole tone and pictorals of the link reflect work by Goebbels, just drop jewish names in for Bush.
As for Thyssen, remember he broke with the NSDAP before the war and spent WWII in Sachsenhausen and Dachau -- nice places.
As for Thyssen, remember he broke with the NSDAP before the war and spent WWII in Sachsenhausen and Dachau -- nice places.
bluesmann,
You do realize the Lauda Bush story is self deprecating humor, not a real story. Reporters would have been all over this if real, imagine the photos.
You do realize the Lauda Bush story is self deprecating humor, not a real story. Reporters would have been all over this if real, imagine the photos.
Secret societies like Skull and Bones are magnets for any kinds of odd rumors that might be going around. It's like the alleged doings at the Bohemian Grove or the bimbo Party that goes with the annual meeting of the scientists or, to really stretch peoples' legs, all the crap about the Knights Templar that was the rage a few years ago.
For that matter, all those doings by the Masons or the Knights of Columbus . . . . just middle-aged men who like to wear outlandish costumes.
For that matter, all those doings by the Masons or the Knights of Columbus . . . . just middle-aged men who like to wear outlandish costumes.
A skull and cross bones, is nothing but a messege, saying that death is close to here, and an arangement has been made!
It is up to the reader to decipher the meaning.
It is up to the reader to decipher the meaning.
Yes, Laura told the story at the White House Correspondents Dinner as a joke, I saw the show. It was a joke, not actual events. You do understand Washington never chopped down the cherry tree and no cow is capable of jumping over the moon.
Another example of BDS -- Bush Derangement Syndrome, which doth drive his enemies mad as loons.
Another example of BDS -- Bush Derangement Syndrome, which doth drive his enemies mad as loons.
How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html
Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html
Inside Bohemian Grove
The Story People Magazine Won't Let You Read
When Dirk Mathison, San Francisco bureau chief for People magazine, infiltrated the exclusive Bohemian Grove retreat this summer, he got a view into the U.S. elite that very few reporters have glimpsed. Unfortunately, that elite includes the management of Time Warner, the owner of People, which prevented Mathison from telling his story.
Bohemian Grove, a secluded campground in California's Sonoma County, is the site of an annual two-week gathering of a highly select, all-male club, whose members have included every Republican president since Calvin Coolidge. Current participants include George Bush, Henry Kissinger, James Baker and David Rockefeller -- a virtual who's who of the most powerful men in business and government.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1489
The Story People Magazine Won't Let You Read
When Dirk Mathison, San Francisco bureau chief for People magazine, infiltrated the exclusive Bohemian Grove retreat this summer, he got a view into the U.S. elite that very few reporters have glimpsed. Unfortunately, that elite includes the management of Time Warner, the owner of People, which prevented Mathison from telling his story.
Bohemian Grove, a secluded campground in California's Sonoma County, is the site of an annual two-week gathering of a highly select, all-male club, whose members have included every Republican president since Calvin Coolidge. Current participants include George Bush, Henry Kissinger, James Baker and David Rockefeller -- a virtual who's who of the most powerful men in business and government.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1489
The Truth - Bohemian Grove Exposed! ON YOUTUBE! WATCH IF YOU DARE!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=80dgc63LMOY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=80dgc63LMOY
pba,
Quoting a three year old article from the tatty old Guardian is not reprehensible, just pathetic. Even, the writer admits it has nothing to do with the present Bush family. Drunk slovenly old Teddy Kennedy is a closer link to a real Nazi sympathizer -- his father.
Quoting a three year old article from the tatty old Guardian is not reprehensible, just pathetic. Even, the writer admits it has nothing to do with the present Bush family. Drunk slovenly old Teddy Kennedy is a closer link to a real Nazi sympathizer -- his father.
well the nazi ss did use a skull and bones symbol on their uniforms as you can see here on heinrich himmler's hat
http://www.appstate.edu/~brantzrw/bios/h_himm.htm
it was a symbol that meant they had power over life and death if i'm not mistaken
http://www.appstate.edu/~brantzrw/bios/h_himm.htm
it was a symbol that meant they had power over life and death if i'm not mistaken
Using poor old manic depressive, James Buchanan's meandering, is even worse. At the outbreak of the war, many companies had assets in enemy territory. Assets subject to seizure and use against its owners on both sides.
GM property in Germany was used by Germany, big surprise. At the end of the war, GM got their plants back (many in ruins) and $5,000 in cash back. Hardly a profit.
Using Fritz Thyssen is really pitiful. His plants in French occupied Germany were seized after WWI. Having no love for the French or Brits, he supported the NSDAP during the 30s. He protested the militarization of Germany and the subsequent war. Spent WWII in Sachsenhausen and Dachau. You do understand these were not Rhineland resorts, don't you?
GM property in Germany was used by Germany, big surprise. At the end of the war, GM got their plants back (many in ruins) and $5,000 in cash back. Hardly a profit.
Using Fritz Thyssen is really pitiful. His plants in French occupied Germany were seized after WWI. Having no love for the French or Brits, he supported the NSDAP during the 30s. He protested the militarization of Germany and the subsequent war. Spent WWII in Sachsenhausen and Dachau. You do understand these were not Rhineland resorts, don't you?
The skull and bones was used as a symbol by many European militaries for centuries. Its a symbol of bravado against a warrior's fate.
Did you think it meant they were pirates?
Skull and Crossbones at Yale is basically a fraternity based on the old English eating clubs. That important men and their sons are members are simple legacies.
Now, don your double thickness tin foil hats and sip the kool aid. I'm going for a perfect Sapphire martini with a twist.
Did you think it meant they were pirates?
Skull and Crossbones at Yale is basically a fraternity based on the old English eating clubs. That important men and their sons are members are simple legacies.
Now, don your double thickness tin foil hats and sip the kool aid. I'm going for a perfect Sapphire martini with a twist.
OHHHHHHH MY GOD!!!!!!!!! Watch this one too!!!!!!!!!! And all SEVEN of them!!!!
WE THE PEOPLE can believe what we CHOSE to believe, but there is just TOO much history behind this that is now coming true, ... to turn a deaf ear, or a blind eye to all seven of these videos is doing yourself an injustice, whether you buy into it or not...
We have all (well all of us over 50) have heard about the Skull and Bones and the Bohemian Society...
But to actually SEE pictures of prominent people in colusion with Hitlet and all that it entails is mind-boggling...
The Skull and Bones is a society that proclaims to dominate the entire world, and even had so many meetings with Hitler BEFORE WWII that one almost has to BELIEVE that we knew what was going on over there... maybe not, but it looks that way.
One of the "key" people that was put in charge at the very beginning had a change of heart and came back and "TOLD"... there were many repercussions of him doing THAT!!!
Prescott, GB Senior, and GWB as well as John Kerry are all members, and now here we find ourselves in Iraq with NO GOOD REASON and GWB fighting to HIS political death over this war just backs up what this man is saying after his intense visit to the archives of congress..
It is well worth spending a while watching all SEVEN of these video's... it tells a GREAT deal of history in less than an hour!!!!
I am amazed, for sure... but I will watch again, as well as GO TO THE LIBRARY to see what it is all about...
This is something we cannot turn our backs on, this is something that involves each and every one of us to some degree... you have to chose what degree it involves you.
WE THE PEOPLE can believe what we CHOSE to believe, but there is just TOO much history behind this that is now coming true, ... to turn a deaf ear, or a blind eye to all seven of these videos is doing yourself an injustice, whether you buy into it or not...
We have all (well all of us over 50) have heard about the Skull and Bones and the Bohemian Society...
But to actually SEE pictures of prominent people in colusion with Hitlet and all that it entails is mind-boggling...
The Skull and Bones is a society that proclaims to dominate the entire world, and even had so many meetings with Hitler BEFORE WWII that one almost has to BELIEVE that we knew what was going on over there... maybe not, but it looks that way.
One of the "key" people that was put in charge at the very beginning had a change of heart and came back and "TOLD"... there were many repercussions of him doing THAT!!!
Prescott, GB Senior, and GWB as well as John Kerry are all members, and now here we find ourselves in Iraq with NO GOOD REASON and GWB fighting to HIS political death over this war just backs up what this man is saying after his intense visit to the archives of congress..
It is well worth spending a while watching all SEVEN of these video's... it tells a GREAT deal of history in less than an hour!!!!
I am amazed, for sure... but I will watch again, as well as GO TO THE LIBRARY to see what it is all about...
This is something we cannot turn our backs on, this is something that involves each and every one of us to some degree... you have to chose what degree it involves you.
Okay, so I mean no disrespect to anyone...just my opinion here.
These videos may (MAY because I haven't looked up the history they gave to verify it as fact) be a recount of history, but they venture into bizarre when do things like call Bush a Nazi (please!) & IBM helped Hitler?! Just because Hitler used IBM's product for evil does not make IBM responsible for the Holocaust.
These videos may (MAY because I haven't looked up the history they gave to verify it as fact) be a recount of history, but they venture into bizarre when do things like call Bush a Nazi (please!) & IBM helped Hitler?! Just because Hitler used IBM's product for evil does not make IBM responsible for the Holocaust.
quote:Originally posted by interventor:
pba,
Quoting a three year old article from the tatty old Guardian is not reprehensible, just pathetic. Even, the writer admits it has nothing to do with the present Bush family. Drunk slovenly old Teddy Kennedy is a closer link to a real Nazi sympathizer -- his father.
As you well know, if you know your history, J. Edgar Hoover brought down the Nazi bank that Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, and Prescott Bush's partner was arrested and somehow Prescott got off scott free. Wonder why?! Why was George W. Bush in Dallas the day Kennedy was assassinated? Bush 41 claims he can't remember where he was the day Kennedy was killed. Bush 41 claims he was not a member of the CIA in 1963 but J. Edgar Hoover had memo's proving that fact. Nixon, also, was in Dallas the day JFK was assassinated. I wonder why? I wonder why later Bush 41 was picked by Nixon to head the CIA? Was it so he could keep covering up JFK? Why did Nixon bring in a democrat Gov.John Conelly who was riding in the limo with JFK?
quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:
Okay, so I mean no disrespect to anyone...just my opinion here.
These videos may (MAY because I haven't looked up the history they gave to verify it as fact) be a recount of history, but they venture into bizarre when do things like call Bush a Nazi (please!) & IBM helped Hitler?! Just because Hitler used IBM's product for evil does not make IBM responsible for the Holocaust.
Yes, We just find it hard to think that Bush can do no wrong. Think again! Ford motor company and other big corporations were with Hitler! Do some research! Most people refuse to belive the truth even when the truth is before them. I don't understand why no one can think a president or preacher or any leader can do no wrong? Yes, they are powerful people, but when you get down to the basics, they are human, and I bet they put their britches on just like you do. Everybody says "respect the president". Respect him if he respects America, respect him as long as he deserves respect. If your president doesn't respect the American people, how can the American people respect the president?
quote:Originally posted by pba:quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:
Okay, so I mean no disrespect to anyone...just my opinion here.
These videos may (MAY because I haven't looked up the history they gave to verify it as fact) be a recount of history, but they venture into bizarre when do things like call Bush a Nazi (please!) & IBM helped Hitler?! Just because Hitler used IBM's product for evil does not make IBM responsible for the Holocaust.
Yes, We just find it hard to think that Bush can do no wrong.Think again! Ford motor company and other big corps was with Hitler! Do some reading! most people refused to belive the truth even when the truth is before them.
I think(?) you meant 'find it easy to believe Bush can do no wrong' or maybe 'hard to believe Bush can no right'...either way, you pegged me wrong. I think Bush is REALLY stubborn, can't admit when he's wrong & is is just nutty enough to believe God is okay with his lies, deceit and total lack of concern for who goes down to fulfill his world vision because it's politics as usual.
quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:quote:Originally posted by pba:quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:
Okay, so I mean no disrespect to anyone...just my opinion here.
These videos may (MAY because I haven't looked up the history they gave to verify it as fact) be a recount of history, but they venture into bizarre when do things like call Bush a Nazi (please!) & IBM helped Hitler?! Just because Hitler used IBM's product for evil does not make IBM responsible for the Holocaust.
Yes, We just find it hard to think that Bush can do no wrong.Think again! Ford motor company and other big corps was with Hitler! Do some reading! most people refused to belive the truth even when the truth is before them.
I think(?) you meant 'find it easy to believe Bush can do no wrong' or maybe 'hard to believe Bush can no right'...either way, you pegged me wrong. I think Bush is REALLY stubborn, can't admit when he's wrong & is is just nutty enough to believe God is okay with his lies, deceit and total lack of concern for who goes down to fulfill his world vision because it's politics as usual.
Bush is REALLY stubborn? I think Bush is being told what to do! Bush a PUPPET ON A STRING doing what the Powerful want him to do!
I don't know about the puppet thing. This is purely opinion. I think he does whatever serves him best. That often serves his buddies best as well. Sometimes when his game face slips, there is a firmness of mind...struggling for the right words here...an intelligent tenacity. He seems to be driven by what he feels is right & will not yield. He makes decisions not based on the council of those in the position to advise him, but based on his own personal agenda. Thus, the popular King George depiction.
I have been digging around on these "rich little boys clubs" (a quite fitting name i read somewhere in refernce to the above mentioned societies) for awhile now and all i have to say to anyone is if you proclaim to believe in God and Angels,,you better open your eyes and believe there is evil entities as well .
AND to deny the existence is exactly how more power is gained,because people refuse to accept the evil actually lurking in mens hearts.
These groups scare me,for the future of the entire world!
AND to deny the existence is exactly how more power is gained,because people refuse to accept the evil actually lurking in mens hearts.
These groups scare me,for the future of the entire world!
Kindred,
Yes, you can find photos of important people with Adolf. He was the leader of Germany and met with other leaders, businessmen and important men of the time. They had photo ops back then, too. During the Berlin games, the little perv posed for a couple of hundred.
Yes, you can find photos of important people with Adolf. He was the leader of Germany and met with other leaders, businessmen and important men of the time. They had photo ops back then, too. During the Berlin games, the little perv posed for a couple of hundred.
this sh*t is getting ridiculous!
well you know how we got fanta? well it was created in 1940 when coca cola stoped doing business with germany. the VW bettle was the car hitler wanted for the people. many of the japanese car makers built equipment for their army, some with american pow's. so many evils in the business world.
quote:this sh*t is getting ridiculous!
maybe,maybe not,this sure is not The Yellow Brick Road and there is no Wizzard of Oz!
So if you are not interested in the subject thats fine , but please be careful of your blanked out cursing words to the rest of us discussing a subject.
quote:Originally posted by interventor:
Yes, you can find photos of important people with Adolf. He was the leader of Germany and met with other leaders, businessmen and important men of the time. They had photo ops back then, too. During the Berlin games, the little perv posed for a couple of hundred.
I agree, interventor. As the video was showing them, I'm thinking "yeah & how many world leaders and rich men had their picture made with Saddam, so what".
As to what Prescott Bush was involved in...if GWB truly takes after his grandfather, I'd say they are both ruthless businessmen. Does this mean they sold their soul to the devil somewhere along the line? Maybe so, I don't know.
quote:Originally posted by interventor:
Kindred,
Yes, you can find photos of important people with Adolf. He was the leader of Germany and met with other leaders, businessmen and important men of the time. They had photo ops back then, too. During the Berlin games, the little perv posed for a couple of hundred.
Thanks for the reply... but you really DID miss the whole point of what I posted...
quote:Originally posted by smurph:quote:this sh*t is getting ridiculous!
maybe,maybe not,this sure is not The Yellow Brick Road and there is no Wizzard of Oz!
So if you are not interested in the subject thats fine , but please be careful of your blanked out cursing words to the rest of us discussing a subject.
Anytime there is a SUPER SECRET club going on, with membership by INVITATION only, and only the rich and elite can be involved, and there are rituals going on daily... then there is something wrong!!!! BAD WRONG, and if our President takes 2 weeks off each year to attend this fiasco, then he is hypocritical to even THINK he is Religious!!!!
This Secret Society BETTER scare people... that is what is going to end up bringing us down... sad to say, but we BETTER see the big picture before there are only scraps left.
If you obtain the past and present membership lists of fraternities, clubs, brotherhoods, etc. you will find many alignments by family and class. Its not some great conspiracy, its an affinity of like groups -- birds of a feather flock together.
Careful, or you begin to see things that aren't there.
Careful, or you begin to see things that aren't there.
That is one of the problems with our Country... everyone is so placated to their life, whatever it is, ... work, kids, family, friends that we just do NOT have the ability to THINK bad about things of this nature...
Don't you think it is time to even CONSIDER that we are and have been Pawns for quite a few years now? ... As long as we don't make waves, we are okay... make the waves, and everyone pounces...
We do that to each other here... Can you just IMAGINE what it is like on S & B's clubs??? Or the Bohemian Group??? Can you not even THINK that they have agenda's and always have????
Or is everything that happens that is bad just one of those "things"???
It is already known that Busn and Company already KNEW that Al Queda was going to strike... now they deny they knew WHEN... but did they???? Who knows but God and those involved???
Don't you think it is time to even CONSIDER that we are and have been Pawns for quite a few years now? ... As long as we don't make waves, we are okay... make the waves, and everyone pounces...
We do that to each other here... Can you just IMAGINE what it is like on S & B's clubs??? Or the Bohemian Group??? Can you not even THINK that they have agenda's and always have????
Or is everything that happens that is bad just one of those "things"???
It is already known that Busn and Company already KNEW that Al Queda was going to strike... now they deny they knew WHEN... but did they???? Who knows but God and those involved???
It is already known that Busn and Company already KNEW that Al Queda was going to strike... now they deny they knew WHEN... but did they???? Who knows but God and those involved???
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Kindred,
Please provide link or source for this.
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Kindred,
Please provide link or source for this.
quote:Originally posted by interventor:
It is already known that Busn and Company already KNEW that Al Queda was going to strike... now they deny they knew WHEN... but did they???? Who knows but God and those involved???
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Kindred,
Please provide link or source for this.
I will look for the link, but I have to wait until I get home... Maybe someone else knows (for now)...
Where were you during October of 2001??? It was all over the news, on every single news channel and in every paper... but of course, even "I" have to admit that there wasn't anything Bush could have done to stop it since he didnt know when.
The questions that arose from the threats couldn't be nailed down to a date so we were basically sitting ducks...
I KNOW someone out there can find the link to this before I get home, if so, please help ... if not, then I will research it then.
I am not blaming Bush for 9/11, please don't get me wrong, but I will say that this "SECRET" organization has done more bad than good on ANY website you want to read it on, ... or any YOUTUBE video you watch, or in any History/Non-Fiction book you want to read about it...
There has been "JUST ENOUGH" things leaked about this secret org. over the years of existance for us all to know that it is NOT for the GOOD of ANY people... except the rich members.
quote:Originally posted by monster:
this sh*t is getting ridiculous!
Why is it getting ridiculous? Why are all right wingers like yourself cannot except the truth?
A Nation in Silent Anger
By Manuel Valenzuela
Can you feel the betrayal of millions who for decades have been made to believe in the American myth of a nation benign and altruistic, only to become aware that only wickedness, greed and criminality define the Empire, that beyond the smoke and mirrors America's government is ruthless, corporatist and concerned only for the interests of the elite?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17669.htm
its not just this, its everything thats ever happened since the beginning of time with the folks on this forum. I'm really starting to think that GWB will be blamed for the crucifixion of jesus before long. I will be glad when the election comes and goes so you all can turn your fixation towards someone else, but it will most likely be the next republican president who will become the root of all evil. this why I can't stand liberals!quote:Originally posted by pba:quote:Originally posted by monster:
this sh*t is getting ridiculous!
Why is it getting ridiculous? Why are all right wingers like yourself cannot except the truth?
whatever!quote:Originally posted by smurph:quote:this sh*t is getting ridiculous!
maybe,maybe not,this sure is not The Yellow Brick Road and there is no Wizzard of Oz!
So if you are not interested in the subject thats fine , but please be careful of your blanked out cursing words to the rest of us discussing a subject.
Kindred,
If you're speaking of the general warning that the US would have its interests attacked by bin Laden, yes I know of that.
With 300 million citizens, 3.5 million square miles of territory, a target rich nation and over 130 embassies and consulates overseas, just what would the US do but be alert? You can't guard everything all the time!
If you're speaking of the general warning that the US would have its interests attacked by bin Laden, yes I know of that.
With 300 million citizens, 3.5 million square miles of territory, a target rich nation and over 130 embassies and consulates overseas, just what would the US do but be alert? You can't guard everything all the time!