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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Nagel,
Use whatever excuses -- or whoever you want to justify your lack of faith -- that is no skin off my back. I will still be in heaven one of these days enjoying fellowship with billions of other Christian believers and my Lord, Jesus Christ. Where will you be?
once again.
for the last time, i think, because i am tired of saying it.
i have no lack of faith. i believe strongly in god and his son.
i have a desire to not be confused with the same brand of heresy and hate and hipocracy that you spew.
you lie. you ask for proof that you've lied, and there is it, in the first line that you wrote in this reply. with your words you imply that i do not believe in god, and have no faith. that is a lie by implication.
you lie every time you feel threatened of meet a challenge you cannot defeat.
i notice you made a personal attack on me, and didnt' even TRY to dismiss the topic at hand, the one where HoD jus tspanked you in public and you tried to weasel your way out of it by pretending the answer meant nothing.
guess what bill.. every one else in this forum see's your words.. we all KNOW you just slapped down.
and God it watching you, and He sees the lack of character to display when faced with being proven wrong.
where will i be? rolling on the floor, laughing my butt off when i see the look on your face as you find out from christ 1st hand you've been wrong about everything.
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I can just see it now, Nagel standing before Jesus Christ at Judgement and telling Him, "I refused to believe because I did not like Bill Gray!" And, I can imagine Jesus Christ telling Nagel, "Bill Gray was not responsible for your believing; only you were. Why did you refuse Me? Why did you continually attack My Chrisitan brethren?"
but why would i be saying that at all, bill? i do believe in christ.
i don't believe in YOU.
If he asks me why i refused to answer to the name 'christian' i will happily tell him " Lord, it was so that i wouldn't be confused with false prophest and liars and hatemongers like bill gray." and He will tell me, 'Oh.. yeah. .that makes sence. ok, here;s your halo, first door on the left, tell pete i'l lsee him about 7:30"
what i'd like to see is your answer when Jesus says " Bill - why did you continally Lie about people's faith? Thou Shalt Not Bare False Witness Against Thy Neighbor. that meant don't make stuff up, Bill, and don't tell lies about other people. yet i see here where you told lies about thenagel.. veep, who's a charming girl, even tho she's catholic, and when confronted by biblical verse by House of David, you lied and told everyone that those words.. MY words, some of them, wern't what they meant, and needed to be explained. so, bill, why did you spend so much time telling lies about other people in my name?"
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So, Nagel, just keep making all the excuses you want. They will not change the temperature in hell one degree.
nope, excuses wouldn't help at all.
however, i make no excuses, because i have nothing to excuse.
Christ knows my heart, and He knows my mind. He doesn't need an excuse.
and you aren't significant enough to be given an explanation.
and because of the lies and commandments you break, because of the false imterpretation of the scripture you teach, because of all the little things you do,
YOU should be more worried about the ambient temp and heat index in hell than i bill.
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Nagel, you tell me, "you're enough to make a man lose his religion."
How can one lose what one has never possessed?
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
Ah. i see.
so now you are declaring yourself God.
how else could you presume to know the state of my soul and the existance or lack their of of my faith?
i'll just write it off to ignorance, foolishness, alzheimers, and arrogance.
to lose ones religion, bill, is an old old old slang term that meant ' to lose ones temper'.
what it meant was, 'Bill, you great lying arrogant hate spreading hypocritical buffoon, you are making me angry with this whole thread."
and i admit it.. you were.. when someoen pulls the childish crap you are it makes me angry.
but then i went and had dinner and let it go and realized you aren't important enough to make me irritate, much less angry.
so.. now i'm back.. it's all good, and all i have to do is follow you aroudn this forum, doing my best to make people see how you spread false teachings, are a false prophet, and anyone who follows you will end up on the wrong path.
the good part is... you're really old and will be dead soon, and won't be able to lead people trying to find God astray anymore.
so really.. all any of us have to do is wait, and check the obits from time to time.
and hope.