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President Bush was harrased for years about gasoline prices being so high. The media made comments about him being from an oil family and liberals insisted he was the cause for the higher prices and Obama was bringing change to the U.S.A. When Obama took over, gasoline was $1.77 per gallon. Today it is $3.25 per gallon. Yes, gas at times was that high during Bush's terms but for short period of times and not constantly. For three full years gasoline prices have averaged $3.01 per gallon during Obama's reign. My Question is, is it racist to question Obama about this particular change? If not why hasn't the media crawled his A-- like they did Bush's? Just asking!!

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I cannot believe you're trying to pull racism into the gasoline issue.  

BoAma's simply downright stupid, and he's also surrounded himself with stupid people.  Needless to say, he's been too busy trying to get around the powers of Congress, pushing a healthcare initiative that nobody wants, and hiring massive numbers of overpaid government employees that have one unofficial job title--"VOTER."  Foreign policy is a big part of global politics, and gasoline prices are directly related to global politics--which this administration has failed miserably.  

 

If BoAma cared about the well being of us, the voters, and the U.S. businesses, he would get off his duff and open upper Alaska to drilling, and approve the Canadian pipeline that goes to the Gulf Coast.  If the Canadians cannot get the oil to us, the pipeline will be diverted to Vancouver so the oil can go to China.  Up goes fuel prices again.  Sorry about that.

Originally Posted by Bamaman1:

I cannot believe you're trying to pull racism into the gasoline issue.  

BoAma's simply downright stupid, and he's also surrounded himself with stupid people.  Needless to say, he's been too busy trying to get around the powers of Congress, pushing a healthcare initiative that nobody wants, and hiring massive numbers of overpaid government employees that have one unofficial job title--"VOTER."  Foreign policy is a big part of global politics, and gasoline prices are directly related to global politics--which this administration has failed miserably.  

 

If BoAma cared about the well being of us, the voters, and the U.S. businesses, he would get off his duff and open upper Alaska to drilling, and approve the Canadian pipeline that goes to the Gulf Coast.  If the Canadians cannot get the oil to us, the pipeline will be diverted to Vancouver so the oil can go to China.  Up goes fuel prices again.  Sorry about that.

Speaking of stupid, Bamaman may be the stupidest person in Alabama, and that is quite an accomplishment. You have heard of people who don't know anything. Bamaman doesn't even suspect anything. Obviously, reality has no place in his life.

Originally Posted by Dr. Pepper:

President Bush was harrased for years about gasoline prices being so high. The media made comments about him being from an oil family and liberals insisted he was the cause for the higher prices and Obama was bringing change to the U.S.A. When Obama took over, gasoline was $1.77 per gallon. Today it is $3.25 per gallon. Yes, gas at times was that high during Bush's terms but for short period of times and not constantly. For three full years gasoline prices have averaged $3.01 per gallon during Obama's reign. My Question is, is it racist to question Obama about this particular change? If not why hasn't the media crawled his A-- like they did Bush's? Just asking!!

$1.77? I've looked back at historical gas prices and it's definately not anywhere around $1.77. Where did you find this?

Originally Posted by Bamaman1:

I cannot believe you're trying to pull racism into the gasoline issue.  

BoAma's simply downright stupid, and he's also surrounded himself with stupid people.  Needless to say, he's been too busy trying to get around the powers of Congress, pushing a healthcare initiative that nobody wants, and hiring massive numbers of overpaid government employees that have one unofficial job title--"VOTER."  Foreign policy is a big part of global politics, and gasoline prices are directly related to global politics--which this administration has failed miserably.  

 

If BoAma cared about the well being of us, the voters, and the U.S. businesses, he would get off his duff and open upper Alaska to drilling, and approve the Canadian pipeline that goes to the Gulf Coast.  If the Canadians cannot get the oil to us, the pipeline will be diverted to Vancouver so the oil can go to China.  Up goes fuel prices again.  Sorry about that.

You listen to entirely too much Fox false news. Obama has cut the federal workforce by (I believe 'cause I ain't gonna look it up) by 44000.   He is far more respected in foreign countries than Bush ever was, especially when he invaded Iraq  At least now we have some respect on foreign soil.

When Obama was elected , polls showed 65% of the citizens of this country wanted a national health insurance plan.

As for your pipe(line) dreams, you do realize that the largest export currently  for the US is refined petroleum, ie: gasoline, and diesel. The refined product of your pipeline is projected to be mostly diesel and it is already sold to overseas markets.

You had to work pretty long to be wrong on every count.

I guess it's true what USA Today said about  Fox news - it makes you dumber.

Originally Posted by Bamaman1:

Jimi:

 

Huh?  What are you talking about?  And to think I was feeling sorry for you yesterday when others on this forum were jumping on you about your comments.

First, I don't care if you feel sorry for me or not. Second, based on you comments, the President, who you call stupid, obviously has an IQ several time that of yours. In fact, deliberately mis-spelling his name is stupid and indicative of your hatred and ignorance. You bring shame to yourself and Alabama. 

Seeweed when you find yourself aligned with the likes of Jim Jam, you may want to reconsider your phliosophies.

 

While it may be true that 2 out of 3 wanted some form of government intervention over health insurance companies, this does not mean they supported Obamacare.  Currently 54% of voters favor the repel of Obamacare. 

http://www.rasmussenreports.co...care/health_care_law

 

Non military federal employees under Bush at the end of his terms - 2,756,000

Non military federal employees under Obama in 2010- 2,840,000

Any reduction by Obama is due to the recession, not because he wanted to.

 

The US imports about 50% of the oil we use.  Only seven years ago when the economy was much better, it was 60% imported.  We get diesel fuel from oil.  I guess it does take a conservative mind to grasp the fact that we use more than we can produce. 

http://www.reuters.com/article...dUSTRE74O78R20110525

 

Slowly ween yourself from the Communist News Network and there may be hope for your recovery from "Pollyanna Obamaitis" condition.  Jim Jam has already reached the terminal stage of this disease.  Would hate to see you progress that far.

 

 

 

 

Of course, it's easy to point out one time frame and say Bush had it to 1.71.  Thats far easier than looking at the whole picture and see just how much it went up during his presidency and how much it stayed well above 3.50 a gallon in his Presidency.   Also it is easy to point out the 1.71 and ignore that two weeks before that it was approximately 3.70+

It's easy to make gas prices go back down.

Ride a motorcycle or a scooter that gets anywhere from 50-150 MPG when the weather permits.

Ride a bicycle if you live close enough to work or wherever ya gotta go.

Sell that 4-ton luxury pig boat you're driving and buy an economical car with a four cylinder engine.

Scrap that 25-year old pickup with the cruddy, wheezy carb and dragging brakes and three different sizes of tires on it and get a smaller truck with electronic fuel injection and maintain it.

Uninstall all those stupid 200-pound bull bars off your Cadillac Escalade that you'll never need.  You don't live in The Outback, fa chrissakes.

Keep your tire pressures up and even. I see lots of cars and trucks around here running on almost flat tires. Low tires cause rolling resistance-and lousy gas mileage. Change your dang air filters, people. You can't run well if you can't breathe-neither can your car. A dirty air filter makes your engine run too rich-dumping raw fuel out the pipe and causes engine damage by cylinder washdown when cold starting.

Get new plug wires, Alice.  All that crossfiring between cylinders  is teh suck for fuel efficiency.

 

Hypermile when you drive.  Start slowly and evenly from a stop and coast to the next stoplight. Nobody cares if you get there 2 seconds sooner than the next guy.  I laugh when I see a huge Ford Expedition blow a soot tornado out the tailpipe just to pass somebody on the way to the next light.

 

Most vehicles get the best fuel mileage at light throttle and low RPMs in the highest gear possible. (This is why 'constant velocity transmissions were invented, but you negate the effect and advantage of having a CV transmission every time you stomp on the gas.).

 

Adopt a 'Is this trip really necessary?' mentality.  Your car doesn't use ANY gas if it's parked.

Seeing as I'm a po' boy nowadays, I've been practicing this since I moved here.  $25 worth of cheap pump swill lasts me all week in my lil' 11 year old Hyundai.  My bike gets 62 MPG.  I ride every time the sun's out.

 

OK? Now:

 

EVERYBODY DO THIS AT ONCE.

 

Within a week, gas prices will go down.

 

The market determines the price.

 

*picks up 3' breaker bar*

Now, feel free to line up and tell me how simple and uneducated I am.  

 

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I've seen others that said they were paying $1.77 in May of 08, and it had dropped lower in Dec. 08'.. All sorts of reports on the price of gas at any given time if you'll just look for it. Well everyone except jimma, he's search challenged for some reason. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:

It's easy to make gas prices go back down.

Ride a motorcycle or a scooter that gets anywhere from 50-150 MPG when the weather permits.

Ride a bicycle if you live close enough to work or wherever ya gotta go.

Sell that 4-ton luxury pig boat you're driving and buy an economical car with a four cylinder engine.

Scrap that 25-year old pickup with the cruddy, wheezy carb and dragging brakes and three different sizes of tires on it and get a smaller truck with electronic fuel injection and maintain it.

Uninstall all those stupid 200-pound bull bars off your Cadillac Escalade that you'll never need.  You don't live in The Outback, fa chrissakes.

Keep your tire pressures up and even. I see lots of cars and trucks around here running on almost flat tires. Low tires cause rolling resistance-and lousy gas mileage. Change your dang air filters, people. You can't run well if you can't breathe-neither can your car. A dirty air filter makes your engine run too rich-dumping raw fuel out the pipe and causes engine damage by cylinder washdown when cold starting.

Get new plug wires, Alice.  All that crossfiring between cylinders  is teh suck for fuel efficiency.

 

Hypermile when you drive.  Start slowly and evenly from a stop and coast to the next stoplight. Nobody cares if you get there 2 seconds sooner than the next guy.  I laugh when I see a huge Ford Expedition blow a soot tornado out the tailpipe just to pass somebody on the way to the next light.

 

Most vehicles get the best fuel mileage at light throttle and low RPMs in the highest gear possible. (This is why 'constant velocity transmissions were invented, but you negate the effect and advantage of having a CV transmission every time you stomp on the gas.).

 

Adopt a 'Is this trip really necessary?' mentality.  Your car doesn't use ANY gas if it's parked.

Seeing as I'm a po' boy nowadays, I've been practicing this since I moved here.  $25 worth of cheap pump swill lasts me all week in my lil' 11 year old Hyundai.  My bike gets 62 MPG.  I ride every time the sun's out.

 

OK? Now:

 

EVERYBODY DO THIS AT ONCE.

 

Within a week, gas prices will go down.

 

The market determines the price.

 

*picks up 3' breaker bar*

Now, feel free to line up and tell me how simple and uneducated I am.  

 

Yea, what puppy said !

However, with the emerging markets in China and India, the effect will not be as great as it once would have been.

 

Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by Bamaman1:

I cannot believe you're trying to pull racism into the gasoline issue.  

BoAma's simply downright stupid, and he's also surrounded himself with stupid people.  Needless to say, he's been too busy trying to get around the powers of Congress, pushing a healthcare initiative that nobody wants, and hiring massive numbers of overpaid government employees that have one unofficial job title--"VOTER."  Foreign policy is a big part of global politics, and gasoline prices are directly related to global politics--which this administration has failed miserably.  

 

If BoAma cared about the well being of us, the voters, and the U.S. businesses, he would get off his duff and open upper Alaska to drilling, and approve the Canadian pipeline that goes to the Gulf Coast.  If the Canadians cannot get the oil to us, the pipeline will be diverted to Vancouver so the oil can go to China.  Up goes fuel prices again.  Sorry about that.

You listen to entirely too much Fox false news. Obama has cut the federal workforce by (I believe 'cause I ain't gonna look it up) by 44000.   He is far more respected in foreign countries than Bush ever was, especially when he invaded Iraq  At least now we have some respect on foreign soil.

When Obama was elected , polls showed 65% of the citizens of this country wanted a national health insurance plan.

As for your pipe(line) dreams, you do realize that the largest export currently  for the US is refined petroleum, ie: gasoline, and diesel. The refined product of your pipeline is projected to be mostly diesel and it is already sold to overseas markets.

You had to work pretty long to be wrong on every count.

I guess it's true what USA Today said about  Fox news - it makes you dumber.

Seeweed,

 

Mixing weed and 'shrooms again?

 

From the 2 Feb 10 Washington Tmes"

 

"he era of big government has returned with a vengeance, in the form of the largest federal work force in modern history.

The Obama administration says the government will grow to 2.15 million employees this year, topping 2 million for the first time since President Clinton declared that “the era of big government is over” and joined forces with a Republican-led Congress in the 1990s to pare back the federal work force.

Most of the increases are on the civilian side, which will grow by 153,000 workers, to 1.43 million people, in fiscal 2010."

http://www.washingtontimes.com...n-of-big-g/?page=all

Provide provinence for your claim of 65% please.  After Obamascare passed, anothe poll showed 67% against it. 

What is wrong with exporting diesel!  That represents a reduction in the balance of payments and more jobs in the USA.

 

Yea, and opening the gasoline market up to speculation in the Wall Street market may actually be the single most thing responsible for the high gas prices. . The Commodity Futures Modernization act put forth by **** Armey and Phil Graham (Both R-Tx) and the last act signed by Clinton as he was leaving office, may be actual culprit in the cost of gasoline  . Commodity speculation was regulated as part of the New Deal , primarily to stabilize the cost of wheat, but later it helped to stabilize the cost of petroleum products.

The Dod-Frank bill would stop a lot of that, but the Congressional Republicans have refused to fund the office to regulate those commodities.

So , fault is  Graham, Armey, and Clinton for getting us into this mess.

Fault for NOT getting us out is Congressional Republicans now.

The solution, get rid of Congressional Republicans as soon as they can be voted out of office.

"There are actually half a million fewer government employees now than there were when (President Barack) Obama took office."

Paul Krugman on Monday, July 11th, 2011 in a "New York Times" column

 

The fact that federal employment outside the Postal Service has risen by 6.7 percent in the past two and a half years is an important point to recognize for anyone studying employment trends. But Krugman was careful enough to avoid suggesting that federal employment declined by a half-million jobs. In fact, since a large chunk of the stimulus came in the form of aid to states -- specifically to help save jobs in education and other government sectors -- using total government employment figures as a yardstick seems reasonable to us. So we rate his statement True.

 

State employment accounts for 23 percent of the government workforce. State government payrolls declined by 113,000 over the same period, or 2.2 percent. Within this category, state education workers -- who account for a little under half of state workers -- actually rose slightly over the period. The hits were taken in the remainder of the state workforce -- a decline of 115,500, or 4.1 percent.

But the biggest declines in the government sector came in local government. Local government -- which accounts for 64 percent of all government employment -- fell by 443,000 workers, or 3 percent. That accounts for a huge portion of the half-million decrease in jobs that Krugman cited.

Education workers at the local level fared worse than those at the state level. Local education workers declined by 204,800, or 2.5 percent.

According to the U.S. Office of Personnel Management, which tracks the number of employees per year, the data shows that the “conservatives” for small government are really just big government conservatives. I know that is an oxymoron, but numbers don’t lie.

 On December 31st 1976 (Not Carter’s term yet), total nonmilitary personnel was 2,883,000. By December 31st 1980 the end of his term (minus a month), the total in nonmilitary personnel was 2,875,000. Federal government nonmilitary employees shrunk by 8,000 employees under Carter.

On January 21st, 1981, President Reagan started with 2,875,000 nonmilitary federal employees.

By the end of Reagan’s terms the total number of nonmilitary federal employees was 3,113,000. That is an INCREASE of 238,000


Let’s move on to President George H.W. Bush.

On January 20th, 1989, total federal nonmilitary employment was 3,113,000
by the end of his only term, President George H.W. Bush had 3,083,000 federal nonmilitary employees on the books. That is a REDUCTION of 30,000 employees.

 

President Bill Clinton came into office with 3,083,000 and by the END of his TWO TERMS he reduced the number of Federal employees to 2,703,000. That is a reduction of 380,000 federal employees.

 

Now finally, President George W. Bush came into office with 2,703,000 nonmilitary employees and by the time his terms were through, the total nonmilitary federal employees on the books were 2,756,000, which is an INCREASE of 53,000 employees.

 

Democratic president Bill Clinton reduced the size of the federal government employee size to PRE- REAGAN levels.

 

http://www.opm.gov/feddata/His...ernmentSince1962.asp

http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/1...es+%28Top+Stories%29

Gas prices may get close to $5 in some spots

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The new year has greeted Americans with the highest January gas prices ever, and some analysts say prices could get close to $5 a gallon in some areas during the warm-weather driving season.

The average price for a gallon of regular unleaded gasoline in the United States on Monday was $3.39, according to motorist group AAA. That's nearly 30 cents higher than a year ago.

The national average reached a peak of $4.114 in July 2008.

Experts say there are a variety of factors placing upward pressure on prices at the pump. For one thing, the U.S. economy appears to be in a modest recovery, heralding a likely uptick in gasoline demand.

For another, the possibility of conflict with Iran over its threat to close the Strait of Hormuz has driven a rally in crude oil prices over the past few weeks, increasing input costs for refineries.

The Strait of Hormuz is a critical shipping lane, with 17 million barrels of oil per day passing through in 2011, according to the U.S. Energy Information Agency. That's about one-sixth of global oil production and nearly 20% of all the oil traded worldwide.

"The potential surrounding the Iranian situation is much worse than Libya," said Patrick DeHaan, senior petroleum analyst at gas price reporting website GasBuddy.com, recalling the oil spikes that accompanied Libya's civil war last year. "The stakes are much higher."
Gas prices on the rise again

Looking ahead, continued geopolitical risk as well as speculative interest in oil and emerging market demand could push prices higher.

Although U.S. demand is still lukewarm, American refineries are increasingly exporting gasoline abroad, where strong demand is keeping prices high, said Kyle Cooper, director of research at IAF Advisors.

"The U.S. consumer is competing with the emerging market consumer, namely Brazil, China, and India," Cooper said. "You throw on top of that the fear of anything happening with Iran, and most likely prices are not going to come down significantly in the next few months."


But Cooper only sees a modest boost in gasoline prices coming, to an average of around $3.50 per gallon by the beginning of the summer.

GasBuddy.com expects bigger increases coming, predicting that the median U.S. gas price will stand at $3.95 a gallon in May.

Some cities could experience record prices by Memorial Day, GasBuddy says, with Chicago residents paying up to $4.95 a gallon and New Yorkers shelling out up to $4.55.

But other analysts say consumers may get some relief in the months to come.
Gas spending and prices by state

Richard Soultanian, co-president of NUS Consulting, said that barring a confrontation with Iran or some other disruption in the Middle East, some of the current risk premium in the market "is going to be leaking out." That should bring gas prices back to the low $3 range, he said.

Peter Beutel, an oil analyst at Cameron Hanover, said prices would likely drop by the end of February, since Iran is unlikely "to go through with any of its threats." He expects prices to bounce back beyond that, but was hesitant to make a precise prediction, saying consumers are likely in for another roller-coaster year.

"I don't see any way to get rid of volatility," he said.
Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

According to the U.S. Office of Personnel Management, which tracks the number of employees per year, the data shows that the “conservatives” for small government are really just big government conservatives. I know that is an oxymoron, but numbers don’t lie.

 On December 31st 1976 (Not Carter’s term yet), total nonmilitary personnel was 2,883,000. By December 31st 1980 the end of his term (minus a month), the total in nonmilitary personnel was 2,875,000. Federal government nonmilitary employees shrunk by 8,000 employees under Carter.

On January 21st, 1981, President Reagan started with 2,875,000 nonmilitary federal employees.

By the end of Reagan’s terms the total number of nonmilitary federal employees was 3,113,000. That is an INCREASE of 238,000


Let’s move on to President George H.W. Bush.

On January 20th, 1989, total federal nonmilitary employment was 3,113,000
by the end of his only term, President George H.W. Bush had 3,083,000 federal nonmilitary employees on the books. That is a REDUCTION of 30,000 employees.

 

President Bill Clinton came into office with 3,083,000 and by the END of his TWO TERMS he reduced the number of Federal employees to 2,703,000. That is a reduction of 380,000 federal employees.

 

Now finally, President George W. Bush came into office with 2,703,000 nonmilitary employees and by the time his terms were through, the total nonmilitary federal employees on the books were 2,756,000, which is an INCREASE of 53,000 employees.

 

Democratic president Bill Clinton reduced the size of the federal government employee size to PRE- REAGAN levels.

 

http://www.opm.gov/feddata/His...ernmentSince1962.asp

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Here is a chart that's a lot clearer. This is the total including Military employees.

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http://articles.businessinside...report-obama-federal

 

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