Suicide and the Christians Among Us

Hmmm...so the difference between atheists and Christians is that atheists embrace death, and Christians embrace life! Thanks for pointing that out!

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Way to miss the point, O.

Atheists embrace life as much as any believer-maybe even more so because, not believing in an 'afterlife', atheists believe that death is final.

We're usually out celebrating this life while you're in church celebrating death. (all that kingdom come and stuff...)

I heard on the scanner- the police responding to a call about a guy out on the boat ramp on Second Creek Thanksgiving night.  Apparently he was attempting to drown himself.

Hmm... One of the 'christian majority', no doubt....  Go figure. Tryna git ta heaven?

One never knows.....DO one?

The article is about christians supporting assisted suicide. You know, one more example of "do as we say not as we do."

I heard on the scanner- the police responding to a call about a guy out on the boat ramp on Second Creek Thanksgiving night.  Apparently he was attempting to drown himself.

Hmm... One of the 'christian majority', no doubt....  Go figure. Tryna git ta heaven?

Do we dare hope???

Nope. Razzyface didn't show up on this end.

Sorry if I was outta line.

Heheh. Posting logjam...

@Best: No, I don't hope. At least I didn't. Drowning's not a good way to go (well, NO way's a good way, I guess) at least up until ya get to the actual dying part....Then I understand it's quite pleasant-so says a friend of mine who did drown and was resuscitated. Up until that point-he said it hurt like hell.

I wouldn't wish that kinda pain and desperation on anybody (as if I could anyway...)

Oh shut up ono and go get some treatment for your cryabeetus. NO one is as mean as you.

I guess I forgot "ono's rule", say whatever you want to say but then say you're kidding.

Jennifer, you really ARE lower than low. So many people on this forum have told you you come across as bitter and hateful, but wishing attempted suicide on someone, then trying to fluff over it as if you had said nothing wrong just PROVES that you are the bitterest, most black hearted person to ever post on this or any other forum. How can you live with yourself?

HEEHEEHEEHAHAHAHOHOHO!!!!!

WHOOOOOooooooooo....!

(Sorry O. I'm NOT laughing at you.)

I've never heard o' that particular term before, Best. That's good! Can I swipe that?

*wiping screen*

A secretary of a friend of mine killed herself a few years ago by taking a bunch of narcotics. He's a strong baptist believer, so I asked him where did she go when she died, (she claimed to be a Christian). He said, Hell, that there's no way anyone goes to heaven that commits suicide.

Sure, feel free. Some of them just suffer from it and when they get a bad case of it they get to feeling real mean and then they start posting.

Yeah, semi... My ol' man ate a load o' buckshot. He was a Catlick. No joy for him, either according to their doctrine.

Personally, I figure life is quick, time is short, and dead is dead.

Keeps things simple and it's a helluva inspiration to keep livin'.

Bout as many that have told YOU how bitter and mean you are?  Now why don't you just run off and sit in a bucket of ice and cool off. Why do you even read my posts anyway? Seems to me they just get your blood pressure up. I don't mess with you or your threads so why do you have to always come running to mine to stir up crap? 

Where did I "wish death"?  Read RP's post again, he said ATTEMPTED suicide. Now hit the bricks.

I'm laughing at you hon. Not with you.

Um...you must be so mad that you missed it. You said I am stirring up CRAP. I said YOU were already stirred up. Didn't get it, did you? But I agree, that was a much too light-hearted remark for the situation. You're so low you don't even deserve to be made the butt of jokes.

Maybe if you were more clever ono, but alas. Old energizer bunny, she just keeps crying and crying. Somebody call her an waaaaambulance.

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Both of you are good people with opposite beliefs & I truly like both of you, very much. 

I don't see an Atheist & I don't see a Christian. I see two people with good hearts.

OK, OK....It's hrd as f#$& to type nd lauhg at the smae time...

The ROFLcopter is about eight minutes out. Have the waaaaaaaambulance personnel clear a decent LZ.

Hooboyyy

So, Semi, YOU don't think there's anything wrong with her "wish" that the attmpted suicide was that poster who spends a lot of time at the dock? You consider someone who would wish that kind of pain on a person someone with a good heart??!!

O, I dunno how it is in yer neighborhood, but lotsa good people sometimes just hafta say 'doubleyou tee eff'

Most people-even hardened people wouldn't wish pain and despair and suffering on anybody-because they've usually experienced plenty of it themselves. I'm no exception.

Not saying some wouldn't deserve it, but in those cases-it's usually because the situation warrants it-as in the case of "Am I gonna eat it-Or is it gonna eat me?"  Then most folks would find themselves in a place where they'd suddenly hafta temporarily turn off the moral, emotional part of their brains and concentrate on survival. 

Then again, mebbe it was just a potshot.

/shrug

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First off, to Pup. I like you & consider you my friend, so no offense intended.

O No, Pup mentioned a man that was attempting to drown himself, saying he was no doubt “One of the christian majority".

 I think Pup was attempting to make a funny & Jenn was going along with the joke. Why would you get mad at her for saying what she did but not Pup for what he said? How is what she said any worse? Both were laughing at something he said.

One time, a very, very long time ago someone I know shot himself. He was aiming at his heart (he told me this after the fact) but missed & hit himself in the shoulder. This person had given me a lot of grief for several years. When he called me from the hospital wanting my sympathy, do you know what I told him?

I told him to put the gun in his mouth the next time & hung up on him. I wasn’t joking as Jenn was when she responded to Pup. I was serious & would not have shed one tear over this person.

Would you consider me, who would wish that kind of pain on that person, someone with a good heart?

To answer your question, yes, I do think Jenn has a good heart. She’s been good to me, just as you have. Anyone seeing your response to her, could possibly say you weren’t a Christian. Would they be correct?

I wouldn’t think it but then I know you on a personal level where some people that might think that don’t know you. All they see is your dislike of her & your response.

I sincerely hope you see the point I’m trying to make.

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"I told him to put the gun in his mouth the next time & hung up on him."

Now THAT is cold-ass reality.  Gnomesayin'?  YOU  'get it'.

I dunno 'bout any forum poster hangin out on the dock. I never said anything to that effect.

My point, like Best's was to reiterate the "do as I say-Not as I do" mentality exhibited by many christians.

They preach about all kindsa stuff that's a 'see-yun', but then who do we find gambling? Drinking? Smoking? Screwing around on each other? Killing? Stealing? Lying? Trying to become (and sometimes succeeding at becoming) "an hero" by committing suicide?

Here's a hint-it ain't atheists. Not around here, by cracky.

You KNOW that guy on the boat ramp was a christian. Wottahell else around here woulda he been?

He hadda been pretty distraught to wanna throw alla that heaven and salvation down the dumpster like that.

Sin? I don't think he really gave a s#!t.

Like I was saying, "Am I gonna eat it-Or is it gonna eat me?"

Life is quick-Time is short-and Dead is dead.

I gotta lotta livin' to do 'fore I die and I ain't got time to waste.

told him to put the gun in his mouth the next time & hung up on him."

Now THAT is cold-ass reality.  Gnomesayin'?  YOU  'get it'.

I dunno 'bout any forum poster hangin out on the dock. I never said anything to that effect.

They preach about all kindsa stuff that's a 'see-yun', but then who do we find gambling? Drinking? Smoking? Screwing around on each other? Killing? Stealing? Lying? Trying to become (and sometimes succeeding at becoming) "an hero" by committing suicide?

Here's a hint-it ain't atheists. Not around here, by cracky.

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Originally Posted by Road Puppy:

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Originally Posted by SemiAnnualChick:

O No, Pup mentioned a man that was attempting to drown himself, saying he was no doubt “One of the christian majority".

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I quoted your post so you could see what I was referring to. And mine, so you could see that I never said anything about a forum poster hangin out on the dock.

Cold-ass reality? You betcha.....I don't beat around the bush for anyone.

I have said before that Atheist have treated me better than most of the Christians I know personally & see  everyday.

Aaaah. Peoples is peoples. They is what they is.regardless of what they believe or preach.  The way I look at it-Ya can't polish a turd.

Doesn't matter if they preach christian righteousness or atheist goodliness, observant people will see right through it if they're an asshat to begin with.

Those of us who are paying attention know who's who.

  'Sides...I even think buf's all right.

He ain't right, but he's all right.

After all....

How bad can a HAM be?

I'm waiting on lexxie to explain why it's ok for christians to support suicide. 

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88 pewww. spit

Hey buff, guess how I knew it wasn't you in the water.

LOL @buffer.

Thanks Qno for calling best out for wishing me dead. I owe you friend.

Calling me out? LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! Buff, it couldn't have been you and you know why. LOL!!!

Assisted suiside is against the law. Why can/t you non-believers get over it? Sound familiar? Kind of like prayer in schools huh?

Gee gingee, you calling those christians in the article non-believers? How about the ones that have already pulled the plug on granny? OOPS??