Suicide and The Humanists among us

Are you pulling a Bill?

Best I’m saying: a careful study in this instance being mine and to include a careful study by anyone can see the similarities to a Jim Jones mentality. Read the Humanist Manifesto for yourself. The followers are  pre-occupied with self destruction fueled by desperation and paranoia.

Religion and religious people appear as a boogie man behind every shadow.

       The terminology of the three manifestos are obviously designed to just skirt  around the norms of society luring the unsuspecting candidate into a prison of mind control.

       Once an idea that society on the outside of this cult is seen as an uninformed hoard, society becomes the enemy that cannot be conquered and in protest, the mentality creeps in that the logical thing to do is remove themselves from the dilemma by suicide.

          Humanism has been around for a long time waiting for the accident to happen. The reward for them , crazy as it may seem is: society must bear the guilt by being left around to tell how it happened.

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i thought about that semi but it was interferring with dog's thread.

So, How many times DO you have to turn that beer can around before ya finally figure out which way the pull tab works, buf?

(June 3, 2010, Washington D.C.)  Today, leadership at the American Humanist Association mourned the death of Dr. Jack Kevorkian, a physician, humanitarian, and brazen advocate for end-of-life choice. Dr. Kevorkian was given the Humanist Hero Award by the American Humanist Association in 1994. The American Humanist Association became one of the first national organizations to support end of life choices in a 1974 statement.

“Dr. Kevorkian led the charge for the right of those who wanted the freedom to end their suffering,” said Roy Speckhardt, executive director of the American Humanist Association. “His unwavering determination in the face of protest, and even legal repercussions, was a testament to his strong conviction and compassion.”

Dr. Kevorkian spent much his career advocating for the legalization of euthanasia. With a strong sense of ethics, Kevorkian refused 97 percent of assisted suicide requests received, reserving his services for the terminally ill and suffering.http://www.americanhumanist.or...vorkian-advocate-for

 

I fail to see how any rational person cannot see Kovorkian as fringe.

 

          "suffering" certainly is a description of the delimma the atheist/humanist claim as a result of Christianity and religion as a whole. The humanist/atheist have long-suffered since the 40's. It remains to be seen when and what will trigger a headlong rush into the sea.

 

       i would suggest that if you are being caught up in this Humanist movement to distance yourself from it and it's members.

How do we "distance" ourselves from all the other people, including christians, that support assisted suicide?

BTW, still waiting on the link for that "study".

Hey buff, what do you consider "pulling the plug" on a loved one to be?? Is that murder or assisted suicide? 

Best I know of no Christian group that condones suicide .

The Humanist teach suicide as a rational alternative to “suffering” which can include physical, mental or imagined.

   I,‘m not saying you are a humanist and I hope you have sense enough not to teach children that suicide is an alternative to include an escape from bullying, breakups etc……what you may see as an adult as non-rational is not always seen that way by children.

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What is it then? It means the family is causing a death, so what do you call it?

I'm of a more "liberal" denomination of churches. You don't have to be a humanist to support euthanasia.  I watched the wife of a friend die recently. I was a long, agonizing, undignified death for someone who was so full of life up until a few months ago.  She stood absolutely no chance of survival. Her husband and children had to endure her pain while she wasted away. Why in the world would anyone pretend to judge this family if they were able to make a choice to end her suffering? 

Best , the family is not causing a death. You ask me was pulling the plug murder or assisted suicide.

I say neither one. Teaching children that suicide is an alternative to “suffering” is insane.

It is a part of this cult teaching. Best if you are being sucked into this humanist madness you need to talk atheists that are not sucked in by humanism. There are normal atheist out there but not on this forum.

I have an atheist friend and I can tell you he ain’t going to join a humanist group any sooner than he will join some church.

 

 

Stop being evasive and answer the question. What is the family doing when they "pull the plug" and cause the death of their loved one? I'm not being "sucked into" anything. You have no idea how I personally feel about the subject. You made a claim so I'm asking you how "assisted suicide" and "pulling the plug" are different and apparently you're stuck. Also you won't address the many christians that think assisted suicide is OK.  You can't provide a link to a study equating humanists to jim jones. I'm a "normal" atheist. There are very few normal christians on this forum and you aren't among them. You come across as deranged. You sound like bill when you claim you have an atheist friend. Neither of you would have an atheist for a friend and I can't imagine an atheist that would want to be a friend to either of you and put up with the abuse you'd heap on them on a daily basis.

Frank, there is no line that is safe when drawn by passion of the maverick. They are always a faction and thank God the framers of our constitution neutered them with the three branches of our Federal Government.

Another idiotic topic from the irrelevant mind of lexum, the King of the Inconsequential.

Don’t be so mean and hateful best I’m just trying to have a sensible conversation. What in hell is your problem anyhow? You always have your butt up over your shoulder .

    Lighten up