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GOP lawmaker cautions Panetta against harsh punishment for urinating Marines

By Jeremy Herb01/19/12 01:25 PM ET

A Republican House member and Marine veteran sent a letter to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta Wednesday urging caution against an over-the-top punishment of the Marines who were videotaped allegedly urinating on Taliban fighters in Afghanistan.

 

Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) said the actions of the Marines were wrong and that they should be disciplined, but he said they should not face a punishment “for the purpose of making a statement to our partners in the region.”

 

“What is particularly concerning to me, as a Marine who served in both Iraq and Afghanistan, is the reported potential legal focus of the investigation and your promise that the Marines in question will be ‘held accountable to the fullest extent,’ which would include prison time under military law,” Hunter wrote.

 

Hunter’s comments echoed remarks last week from Texas Gov. Rick Perry — who on Thursday dropped his bid for the GOP presidential nomination — that the Marines in the video were “kids,” and criminal punishment would be too harsh.

 

Panetta and other U.S. officials, as well as Afghan President Hamid Karzai, denounced the video after it surfaced and went viral last week. The Pentagon has launched an investigation and identified the four Marines who were shown in the video.

 

Hunter, a retired Marine who served two tours in Iraq and one in Afghanistan, said the realities of military combat can be difficult — if not impossible — to explain. He wrote that “most people will never know what our Marines endure unless they see it or experience it for themselves.”


“In the case of the video, we do not know the full extent of the situation or the shared experiences of these Marines,” Hunter wrote. “We owe it to these individuals and others, who put their lives on the line every day, to take into account the extraordinary conditions and danger they face when judging their actions, and put things into proper context.”


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Opinions seem to vary..........

 


  
  
YOU PEE FOR ME, MARINE 
  

 


You pee for us all, Marine. 

This has to do with the video that popped up yesterday. It’s 40 seconds, and it shows four Marines standing above the bodies of some dead Taliban.  Peeing on them.
 
“Have a great day, buddy,” one of the Marines says to the corpse at his feet. 
Let’s review. 
America is at war with militant Islam. In Afghanistan, the Taliban is militant Islam. In Afghanistan, the Taliban gave refuge and support to Al Qaeda as it prepared the attacks of September 11. In Afghanistan, the Taliban works around the clock to put American servicemen in their graves. 
The Taliban are the bad guys. 
And the United States Marines are the good guys. 
And this is much ado about nothing. 
Because the brass are crapping in their pants. 
“This is egregious, disgusting behavior,” said Pentagon spokesman Capt. John Kirby. “It turned my stomach.” 
Kirby’s branch of the Service is not listed, but I’m guessing it’s Girl Scouts. 
It turned his stomach? 
We are a Nation at war. We’ve had thousands of Americans die. We’ve brought hundreds of thousands home with losses of limb and mind, and THIS turns his stomach? 
That is not exactly a warrior spirit. 
And it makes you wish that men like those urinating Marines were running this operation. 
But they are not. 
And they will be crucified.  Because our military establishment specializes in throwing young GIs under the bus. Any number of desk jockeys and political Generals are glad to backstab as many warriors as they can. In the White House and at the Pentagon, the god of political correctness is fed with the frequent sacrifice of young soldiers’ careers.
You send people to war, but heaven help them if they act like it. Hamstrung by Marquis of Queensbury rules in a bar fight with savages, our GIs are attacked by enemy fighters on one side and government lawyers on the other.  It’s a funny game where no one has their back.
 
Except the American people. 
Which gets me back to my point. 
You pee for us all, Marine. 
That group of Camp Lejeune snipers is condemned by the political Generals, but embraced by the American people. Because that’s what you get when you screw with the United States of America. You get a bullet through the brainpan, and we’re going to line up to spit on the pieces.  Unless we have a full bladder. And show the YouTube far and wide, as a warning to your pals. This is what it means to mess with America. The pantywaists in the Pentagon might want to win your hearts and minds, but the men pulling the triggers want to snap your freaking necks.  And some 310 million real Americans feel the same way. Mess with the best, die like the rest. The sooner the better, the more the merrier, and don’t be surprised if it’s not Holy Water you get sprinkled with. 
Real people aren’t bothered by this. 
Real people believe this is how war should be fought. 
Real people think that we’ve *****footed around long enough, it’s time to make the rubble bounce. Pull the B-52's out of the barn and let’s light those mo-fos up. 
And real people are sick and tired of the feigned indignation coming out of the Pentagon and White House. Life is not group therapy and war is not run by “Robert Rules of Order.” War is where you kill people and break the will of a Society.
War is where you make the other guy cry “Uncle.”
 
Ask the people of Hiroshima and Dresden. 
Or Atlanta, for that matter. 
You attack the United States and you die. You die ugly. There are only two sure winners – us and the maggots. And any people, Nation or Religion that can’t stand that heat should stay the hell out of the kitchen. 
So if you don’t want to be blown to bits and pieces, and ****ed on by fine examples of American manhood, then you better stay home with Mama. You better lay off the jihad. You better learn some manners and mind your P's and Q's.
Because Lady Liberty is shaking her fist.
 
And that’s not just some words in a song. 

That’s our pledge.
 
We’re going to kill you, and we’re going to cheer the men who do it. 
And the rest of you goat-bearded savages better shake in your sandals, because those Marines pee for us. 
And they’re coming for you next.

- by Bob Lonsberry © 2012

Originally Posted by FatRat:

Opinions seem to vary..........

 


  
  
YOU PEE FOR ME, MARINE 
  

 


You pee for us all, Marine. 

This has to do with the video that popped up yesterday. It’s 40 seconds, and it shows four Marines standing above the bodies of some dead Taliban.  Peeing on them.
 
“Have a great day, buddy,” one of the Marines says to the corpse at his feet. 
Let’s review. 
America is at war with militant Islam. In Afghanistan, the Taliban is militant Islam. In Afghanistan, the Taliban gave refuge and support to Al Qaeda as it prepared the attacks of September 11. In Afghanistan, the Taliban works around the clock to put American servicemen in their graves. 
The Taliban are the bad guys. 
And the United States Marines are the good guys. 
And this is much ado about nothing. 
Because the brass are crapping in their pants. 
“This is egregious, disgusting behavior,” said Pentagon spokesman Capt. John Kirby. “It turned my stomach.” 
Kirby’s branch of the Service is not listed, but I’m guessing it’s Girl Scouts. 
It turned his stomach? 
We are a Nation at war. We’ve had thousands of Americans die. We’ve brought hundreds of thousands home with losses of limb and mind, and THIS turns his stomach? 
That is not exactly a warrior spirit. 
And it makes you wish that men like those urinating Marines were running this operation. 
But they are not. 
And they will be crucified.  Because our military establishment specializes in throwing young GIs under the bus. Any number of desk jockeys and political Generals are glad to backstab as many warriors as they can. In the White House and at the Pentagon, the god of political correctness is fed with the frequent sacrifice of young soldiers’ careers.
You send people to war, but heaven help them if they act like it. Hamstrung by Marquis of Queensbury rules in a bar fight with savages, our GIs are attacked by enemy fighters on one side and government lawyers on the other.  It’s a funny game where no one has their back.
 
Except the American people. 
Which gets me back to my point. 
You pee for us all, Marine. 
That group of Camp Lejeune snipers is condemned by the political Generals, but embraced by the American people. Because that’s what you get when you screw with the United States of America. You get a bullet through the brainpan, and we’re going to line up to spit on the pieces.  Unless we have a full bladder. And show the YouTube far and wide, as a warning to your pals. This is what it means to mess with America. The pantywaists in the Pentagon might want to win your hearts and minds, but the men pulling the triggers want to snap your freaking necks.  And some 310 million real Americans feel the same way. Mess with the best, die like the rest. The sooner the better, the more the merrier, and don’t be surprised if it’s not Holy Water you get sprinkled with. 
Real people aren’t bothered by this. 
Real people believe this is how war should be fought. 
Real people think that we’ve *****footed around long enough, it’s time to make the rubble bounce. Pull the B-52's out of the barn and let’s light those mo-fos up. 
And real people are sick and tired of the feigned indignation coming out of the Pentagon and White House. Life is not group therapy and war is not run by “Robert Rules of Order.” War is where you kill people and break the will of a Society.
War is where you make the other guy cry “Uncle.”
 
Ask the people of Hiroshima and Dresden. 
Or Atlanta, for that matter. 
You attack the United States and you die. You die ugly. There are only two sure winners – us and the maggots. And any people, Nation or Religion that can’t stand that heat should stay the hell out of the kitchen. 
So if you don’t want to be blown to bits and pieces, and ****ed on by fine examples of American manhood, then you better stay home with Mama. You better lay off the jihad. You better learn some manners and mind your P's and Q's.
Because Lady Liberty is shaking her fist.
 
And that’s not just some words in a song. 

That’s our pledge.
 
We’re going to kill you, and we’re going to cheer the men who do it. 
And the rest of you goat-bearded savages better shake in your sandals, because those Marines pee for us. 
And they’re coming for you next.

- by Bob Lonsberry © 2012

Well said!

Originally Posted by SeniorCoffee:
One thing seems certain. The Marines only seem invincible when they face women, children and men with little weaponry. Even then they never win. They just claim they did and sneak back to America to bask in the glow of their "accomplishments." My greatest disappointment is that my tax dollars finances these losers.

 

 

Sounds like someone is a little "bent", say, maybe because the Marines turned down his enlistment?

 

Maybe you could try the Girl Scouts.  Seems more like your flavor.

Originally Posted by SeniorCoffee:
Now Roland I would never have even considered enlisting in such an organization. I don't enjoy being a bully, and my IQ is above room temperature.

 

 

You should know, the Marines have jobs for people of your persuasion.

They need typists with soft hands and average IQ to do administrative tasks.

You still get to wear a snappy uniform but you don't have to worry about getting hurt or actually performing any sort actual combat.

They may even tuck you in at night.

One thing seems certain. The Marines only seem invincible when they face women, children and men with little weaponry. Even then they never win. They just claim they did and sneak back to America to bask in the glow of their "accomplishments." My greatest disappointment is that my tax dollars finances these losers.


No senior coffee you just the defined the Democrats not the Marines


My greatest disappointment is that my tax dollars finances these losers.

Originally Posted by SeniorCoffee:
One thing seems certain. The Marines only seem invincible when they face women, children and men with little weaponry. Even then they never win. They just claim they did and sneak back to America to bask in the glow of their "accomplishments." My greatest disappointment is that my tax dollars finances these losers.

Every one of those "losers" would die for your right to let your mouth spew that garbage. How about having a little respect for the men who fought and continue to fight for your freedom?

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

OK, so just what do you "outraged" folks think should happen to the marines? Maybe turn them over for beheading? My gosh, the way some of you carry on over basically nothing makes me wonder how the heck your priorities got so messed up. You strain at a gnat and swallow a camel. 

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They should be disciplined in accordance with Marine Corps regulations and procedures.  When they entered the Marine Corps, they were given instruction on what kind of behaviors are and are not permissible for Marines, in combat and otherwise. Since they failed to honor those rules, they must face the consequences.  It is as simple as that, notwithstanding all the pseudo-patriotic blithering posted by you and others above.

I don't post patriotic blithering contendah. I just don't think what they did deserves all the hysteria you drama queens that hate this country are tossing out. You can't just post that they shouldn't have done it, and that they should be disciplined, you have to go to calling them scumbags and all that crap, AND then when someone says to you "get a grip", it wasn't that bad, you attack them for being "patriotic" of all things. Why do you even stay in this country you so obviously hate? For someone that would love to come across as so **************** intelligent you seem pretty dumb. Just like your rant against Gingrich and his adultery. So what? Bill Clinton has messed around on hillary ever since the day they said "I do", and they are not the first, and certainly will not be the last, that have done it.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

I don't post patriotic blithering contendah. I just don't think what they did deserves all the hysteria you drama queens that hate this country are tossing out. You can't just post that they shouldn't have done it, and that they should be disciplined, you have to go to calling them scumbags and all that crap, AND then when someone says to you "get a grip", it wasn't that bad, you attack them for being "patriotic" of all things. Why do you even stay in this country you so obviously hate? For someone that would love to come across as so **************** intelligent you seem pretty dumb. Just like your rant against Gingrich and his adultery. So what? Bill Clinton has messed around on hillary ever since the day they said "I do", and they are not the first, and certainly will not be the last, that have done it.

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Correction:  You do NOT post "patriotic biithering," and I did not say you did.  I said that you post "pseudo-patriotic blithering." There is a difference.

Like your pseudo-outrage?  It has nothing to do with any pretense of patriotism to say you're going overboard in your attempt to appear PC. You're calling men scum who did something unsavory, but far from anything so bad that it gives you the right to label them as scum. I think a good dose of patriotism would do some of you libs a lot of good. Failing that, maybe a good dose of human kindness and understanding towards young men/women in awful situations. 

Best, in rural Pakistan newborns are washed in Water Buffalo urine, directly from the animal, it is sterile and the cleanest water they have and abundant .

Now it's OK for the new born, but combatant you just KILLED should not be urinated on and have it put on Youtube because all those combatants families have high speed internet and watch Youtube all day long . It's especially popular while resting after a strenuous evening of bestiality with your neighbors goat.

These are the same people who are wanting to lynch the drunk football fan who had a brief pseudo sex encounter with another drunk fan from the opposing team and was film by more drunks and placed on Youtube. Seems LSU fans are not nearly as upset a Auburn fans.

But they defend Bill Clinton inserting embargoed Cuban cigars in Monica's genitals in the Oval Office.

Best, their democrats that means logic, intelligents or common sense never comes into play, and unfortunately their mothers didn't practice birth control and we have to put up with the "Poster Children"  for Pro-abortion........

Originally Posted by SeniorCoffee:
One thing seems certain. The Marines only seem invincible when they face women, children and men with little weaponry. Even then they never win. They just claim they did and sneak back to America to bask in the glow of their "accomplishments." My greatest disappointment is that my tax dollars finances these losers.

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Con/Bitter....

is this your other identity?

Originally Posted by SeniorCoffee:
One thing seems certain. The Marines only seem invincible when they face women, children and men with little weaponry. Even then they never win. They just claim they did and sneak back to America to bask in the glow of their "accomplishments." My greatest disappointment is that my tax dollars finances these losers.

I seriously doubt you would say that to a Marines face!  While I do not think their actions were proper, I also do not think it's bid deal.

An Afghan soldier who shot dead four French troops has said he did it because of a recent video showing U.S. Marines urinating on the dead bodies of Taliban insurgents, security sources told AFP.

"During the initial interrogations by French soldiers, he told them he did it because of the video in which American soldiers were urinating on bodies," an Afghan army officer said.

The report was backed by an intelligence source and another with access to information from the Afghan ministry of defence, both of whom requested anonymity.

"In his initial confessions, he said that he was strongly motivated to kill the soldiers when he saw the video of a foreign soldiers urinating on Afghan corpses," the intelligence source said.

French Defence Minister Gerard Longuet said during a visit to Kabul at the weekend that he had been told the soldier who killed the four soldiers and wounded 15 others was a Taliban infiltrator.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

An Afghan soldier who shot dead four French troops has said he did it because of a recent video showing U.S. Marines urinating on the dead bodies of Taliban insurgents, security sources told AFP.


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Wonder what his excuse would have been if the "urinating" incident hadn't happened.

Exactly. Just like the Koran burning. No reason necessary.

Originally Posted by SeniorCoffee:
Now Roland I would never have even considered enlisting in such an organization. I don't enjoy being a bully, and my IQ is above room temperature.

are you for real, you must not know much about marines. thing happen in war. you see your buddies get messed up and you can't say what you might do. GO MARINES

I have no respect for anyone that would go to another country and kill women and children. The B S about seeing their comrades die doesn't have any weight at all with me, because they volunteered to join an illegal war in the first place, and none of them have fought for your or my freedom. They have fought and killed for oil, greed, power and imperialism, and they should a face trial for their crimes the last time I confronted one of them I was standing in line behind one at Wal Mart. He was bragging to some friends about how tough he was so I just started singing "Baby killer, baby killer," over and over. When he turned around and threatened me, I laughed at him and asked, "What are you going to do now bad boy beat up an old man at Wal Mart. He was real red in the face, turned back around paid his bill and almost ran out of the place. They all should be ashamed of what they have done in the wars. That's why there are so many suicides and so much PTSD. They should be ashamed and so should anyone that supports them.

Senior,

 

First, I don't believe your story.  That's not the way soldiers talk.  I've associated with them for over 40 years.  I did two tours and had to listen to that baby killer taunts from the likes of you.  Never killed an unarmed man, and no women or children, period.  Spent 6 months in Iraq as a civilian, never saw the same.

 

Second, killing women and children isn't what they usually do.  Unless, the women are carrying bombs.  Most of the innocents in Iraq were killed by the jehadim bombs and rockets. 

 

Lastly, the wars were no illegal.  Congress approved both actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Congress may approve any action upto and including war.  In the early 1800s, the president asked congress to declare war against the Barbary States.  Congress declined, but gave the president approval to attack the pirates operating from those states ands their bases.

Well what has one to gain fighting and old man, if you lose everyone laughs at your failure to whip him and if you win it just shows disrespect of ones elders. And it's obvious this kind of behavior shows a  lacks personal courage and respect of others and they would hide behind the protection of the law if the person had slapped their jaws. Lucky for him none of my senior friends or relatives were around him. Because 80 plus year old WW II & Korean veterans don't really care about being arrested for slapping the jaws of someone who they find lacks intestinal fortitude but let's his age and others defend his lily livered beliefs and loud mouth.

Wal-Mart is open 24 hrs a day and has plenty of veterans that shop there so I guess he can continue to run his mouth but I doubt it taking to much time before them lips would get bradded to his dentures and he could be entertainment on the evening news and or YouTube.

 

I can hardly wait, I'll be watching......

Uh, FatRat, you need to work on your English usage.  A little free help for you:

 

"Best, their they're democrats [insert period here].  Tthat means logic, intelligents intelligence or common sense never comes into play, and unfortunately their mothers didn't practice birth control and we have to put up with the "Poster Children"  for Pro-abortion......."


Thanks, Pretendah, could you explain  "Tthat" in your un-requested corrections ?

I've also noticed other free advice you've given on grammar as well as your word misspelling a number times in the post you offer.

I'm just glad your advice is worth what it cost !

I was just wondering, since your post exhibit a lack of personal courage and intestinal fortitude, have the bullys  been really hard on a geek like you ?


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"Best, their they're democrats [insert period here].  Tthat means logic, intelligents intelligence or common sense never comes into play, and unfortunately their mothers didn't practice birth control and we have to put up with the "Poster Children"  for Pro-abortion......."


 

Try again.  The little t is crossed out as "That" is now the first word of the new sentence.   

 

Sometimes, the grammar is so bad that it makes ma brain hurt.  AlObama schools must not teach the difference between "there" and "their" and "they're". 


We took ears in Viet Nam.  Occasionally we would stack a couple of dead NVAs and use them to sit on, as long as they didn't start to smell.  The ROK commandos were known to bring back heads.  Ears were easier to carry around.

I would have given the offending marines extra duty, and had them apolgize to the regiment, plus singing (as Alan West suggested) the Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.  The idiot who videotaped it, then released it to you-tube or whatever would need corrective training.

Mark12A, surely you jest, not in War ?

You're going to have our little band of chicken liveried cowardly liberals throwing up their pop-tarts and Obama Kool-Aid. These kind of facts just makes them sick to their little tummies.

Now they will just go cry themselves to sleep and have nasty nightmares...

 

The smell of combat would certainly bring on the dry heaves...

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