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Why is such crazy stuff happening?
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Because we are borrowing 40 cents for every dollar we spend. We take in about 2 trillion dollars a year in taxes and we have a budget now of almost 4 trillion.
Unsustainable huh?
Unsustainable huh?
Well...I'd like to thank Pres. Obama because I got requoted from BC/BS yesterday and now have a new policy (with equal or better coverage) at a rate reduction of over $300.00 per month. Thank you President Obama!
Another fellow on this forum was looking at $700.00 a month savings.
PS: They didn't reduce our rating, that is a projection for 2014 if things don't change.
Here's an idea, perhaps requiring that the wealthy pay their fair share would help????
Another fellow on this forum was looking at $700.00 a month savings.
PS: They didn't reduce our rating, that is a projection for 2014 if things don't change.
Here's an idea, perhaps requiring that the wealthy pay their fair share would help????
quote:Originally posted by TrueBlue:
Well...I'd like to thank Pres. Obama because I got requoted from BC/BS yesterday and now have a new policy (with equal or better coverage) at a rate reduction of over $300.00 per month. Thank you President Obama!
Another fellow on this forum was looking at $700.00 a month savings.
PS: They didn't reduce our rating, that is a projection for 2014 if things don't change.
Here's an idea, perhaps requiring that the wealthy pay their fair share would help????
Uh....I got a rock.
No health insurance for me. I gueess they'll just have to fine me every year and then jail me when I can't afford to pay.
quote:Originally posted by TrueBlue:
Well...I'd like to thank Pres. Obama because I got requoted from BC/BS yesterday and now have a new policy (with equal or better coverage) at a rate reduction of over $300.00 per month. Thank you President Obama!
Another fellow on this forum was looking at $700.00 a month savings.
PS: They didn't reduce our rating, that is a projection for 2014 if things don't change.
Here's an idea, perhaps requiring that the wealthy pay their fair share would help????
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And you really think things will change?
We got change all right. Our Republic is quickly changing into
socialist country. Yea thanks Obama.
Keep Marching,
Skippy
quote:Originally posted by Road Puppy:quote:Originally posted by TrueBlue:
Well...I'd like to thank Pres. Obama because I got requoted from BC/BS yesterday and now have a new policy (with equal or better coverage) at a rate reduction of over $300.00 per month. Thank you President Obama!
Another fellow on this forum was looking at $700.00 a month savings.
PS: They didn't reduce our rating, that is a projection for 2014 if things don't change.
Here's an idea, perhaps requiring that the wealthy pay their fair share would help????
Uh....I got a rock.
No health insurance for me. I gueess they'll just have to fine me every year and then jail me when I can't afford to pay.
No, that is too expensive. If you get sick or injured, you just wont get any treatment. That is fair, isnt it? You're an adult, you understand and accept the risk. Better at least buy some life insurance.
quote:Originally posted by Road Puppy:quote:Originally posted by TrueBlue:
Well...I'd like to thank Pres. Obama because I got requoted from BC/BS yesterday and now have a new policy (with equal or better coverage) at a rate reduction of over $300.00 per month. Thank you President Obama!
Another fellow on this forum was looking at $700.00 a month savings.
PS: They didn't reduce our rating, that is a projection for 2014 if things don't change.
Here's an idea, perhaps requiring that the wealthy pay their fair share would help????
Uh....I got a rock.
No health insurance for me. I gueess they'll just have to fine me every year and then jail me when I can't afford to pay.
Thats cool. But don't look to me to pay your bill when you get a kidney stone!
If you ask me the fact that WE have had to pay the hospital bills for people like you....THATS SOCIALISM.
quote:Originally posted by skippy delepepper:quote:Originally posted by TrueBlue:
Well...I'd like to thank Pres. Obama because I got requoted from BC/BS yesterday and now have a new policy (with equal or better coverage) at a rate reduction of over $300.00 per month. Thank you President Obama!
Another fellow on this forum was looking at $700.00 a month savings.
PS: They didn't reduce our rating, that is a projection for 2014 if things don't change.
Here's an idea, perhaps requiring that the wealthy pay their fair share would help????
___________________________________
And you really think things will change?
We got change all right. Our Republic is quickly changing into
socialist country. Yea thanks Obama.
Keep Marching,
Skippy
No.....OUR DEMOCRACY has elected a leader who is trying to protect the interests of the people over the corporations.
Our REPUBLIC elected a socialist with a big smile.
quote:Originally posted by TrueBlue:
Well...I'd like to thank Pres. Obama because I got requoted from BC/BS yesterday and now have a new policy (with equal or better coverage) at a rate reduction of over $300.00 per month. Thank you President Obama!
Another fellow on this forum was looking at $700.00 a month savings.
PS: They didn't reduce our rating, that is a projection for 2014 if things don't change.
Here's an idea, perhaps requiring that the wealthy pay their fair share would help????
You really should be thanking one of your conservative friends on the forum, he pointed you in the right direction.
quote:Originally posted by TrueBlue:quote:Originally posted by Road Puppy:quote:Originally posted by TrueBlue:
Well...I'd like to thank Pres. Obama because I got requoted from BC/BS yesterday and now have a new policy (with equal or better coverage) at a rate reduction of over $300.00 per month. Thank you President Obama!
Another fellow on this forum was looking at $700.00 a month savings.
PS: They didn't reduce our rating, that is a projection for 2014 if things don't change.
Here's an idea, perhaps requiring that the wealthy pay their fair share would help????
Uh....I got a rock.
No health insurance for me. I gueess they'll just have to fine me every year and then jail me when I can't afford to pay.
Thats cool. But don't look to me to pay your bill when you get a kidney stone!
If you ask me the fact that WE have had to pay the hospital bills for people like you....THATS SOCIALISM.
There you go Road Puppy. There is a great example of compassion from Leftie Liberals.
Not to worry however, if you are injured or severely ill, there is a government plan that says EVERYONE must be taken care of in an emergent situation and stabilized by an emergency room. the Patient Bill of Rights also allows those people to petition the hospital and its resources to help you pay your bill.
The take away from the story here is that the Liberal Lefties are perfectly happy to see you not taken care of, as long as they get what they wish. BC/BS is reassessing costs and coverages, what they did not tell their clients is that they did this by decreasing what they paid to the providers. They expect them to make it up somewhere else.
quote:Originally posted by teyates:quote:Originally posted by TrueBlue:quote:Originally posted by Road Puppy:quote:Originally posted by TrueBlue:
Well...I'd like to thank Pres. Obama because I got requoted from BC/BS yesterday and now have a new policy (with equal or better coverage) at a rate reduction of over $300.00 per month. Thank you President Obama!
Another fellow on this forum was looking at $700.00 a month savings.
PS: They didn't reduce our rating, that is a projection for 2014 if things don't change.
Here's an idea, perhaps requiring that the wealthy pay their fair share would help????
Uh....I got a rock.
No health insurance for me. I gueess they'll just have to fine me every year and then jail me when I can't afford to pay.
Thats cool. But don't look to me to pay your bill when you get a kidney stone!
If you ask me the fact that WE have had to pay the hospital bills for people like you....THATS SOCIALISM.
There you go Road Puppy. There is a great example of compassion from Leftie Liberals.
Not to worry however, if you are injured or severely ill, there is a government plan that says EVERYONE must be taken care of in an emergent situation and stabilized by an emergency room. the Patient Bill of Rights also allows those people to petition the hospital and its resources to help you pay your bill.
The take away from the story here is that the Liberal Lefties are perfectly happy to see you not taken care of, as long as they get what they wish. BC/BS is reassessing costs and coverages, what they did not tell their clients is that they did this by decreasing what they paid to the providers. They expect them to make it up somewhere else.
I don't get you guys. One minute you are preaching self reliance, small government and fiscal conservatism, and the next minute your supporting welfare. You are willing to pay for someone elses medical bills, but not your own. You want to eliminate Medicare and Social Security for the elderly, but....????? Well, thank goodness there is the Patients Bill of Rights because soon enough, if the Republicans get their way, all those Seniors who lost their Medicare benefits and cannot afford what a private insurer wants to provide health care to a 70 year old are going to start rolling through the emergency room doors leaving us with the tab.
No one will be able to blame them. They paid into Medicare all their lives. Its not going to be like ol' Road Puppy who just refuses to pay for himself.
So basically, what? We should provide free health care to all those who refuse to provide it for themselves? Welfare for those who refuse to be responsible? Good Plan!
quote:Originally posted by TrueBlue:
So basically, what? We should provide free health care to all those who refuse to provide it for themselves? Welfare for those who refuse to be responsible? Good Plan!
But that is the plan that your party is touting, is it not. The thing you fail to realize is that your rates did not go down because of Obama Healthcare plan. The fact is that it originally went up due to the fact that most insurance companies had a fear of what was going to come down the pike from this administration and made plans to counter it by raising rates. Obama's Healthcare Initiative has hit the ground like a sack of cement and the indistry sees that it is going nowhere. They are now making adjustments. Their adjustments however included a reduction in their pay for CPT (codes used to pay providers) almost across the board, but primarily amongst specialists. They know they typically only pay a percentage of what Medicare pays anyways. The proposed Medciare cuts that will eventually go into effect will not even cover the cost of providing the tests. What a joke. Offices that take Medicare will lose money taking care of Medicare only patients. Unless a patient has a type of Medicare supplement plan they are probably not going to be seen by a specialist. Lookk for a huge reduction in the number of physicians who will see Medicare patients, and it is not going to get better.
What happens then? The government know that they con control their outgoing dollars by limiting the number of people with access to care, so when the plan comes crashing down, seniors throwing fits and complaining, they know they will be able to get their single payor, universal health coverage plan implemented. When this happens the government will not be able to pay for it, it is bankrupting European countries now, so a two tier system will evolve, one where you either pay cash for your specialty care, or you wait until someone gets around to taking take of you. Good luck with that.
quote:Originally posted by ferrellj:quote:Originally posted by TrueBlue:
Well...I'd like to thank Pres. Obama because I got requoted from BC/BS yesterday and now have a new policy (with equal or better coverage) at a rate reduction of over $300.00 per month. Thank you President Obama!
Another fellow on this forum was looking at $700.00 a month savings.
PS: They didn't reduce our rating, that is a projection for 2014 if things don't change.
Here's an idea, perhaps requiring that the wealthy pay their fair share would help????
You really should be thanking one of your conservative friends on the forum, he pointed you in the right direction.
And he told her that the rates went UP after Obama got in, she missed that part.
quote:Originally posted by b50m:quote:Originally posted by ferrellj:quote:Originally posted by TrueBlue:
Well...I'd like to thank Pres. Obama because I got requoted from BC/BS yesterday and now have a new policy (with equal or better coverage) at a rate reduction of over $300.00 per month. Thank you President Obama!
Another fellow on this forum was looking at $700.00 a month savings.
PS: They didn't reduce our rating, that is a projection for 2014 if things don't change.
Here's an idea, perhaps requiring that the wealthy pay their fair share would help????
You really should be thanking one of your conservative friends on the forum, he pointed you in the right direction.
And he told her that the rates went UP after Obama got in, she missed that part.
HUH?? Who exactly is he and her?
I do thank my republican friend for the tip on the BC/BS.
But undoubtably my rates have gone down. Down lower than they have been in probably 7-8 years. You want to say its not because of Obama care....thats fine. The insurance companies no doubt jacked up everyones rates to pay for their political agendas when they should have been using their profits for that and just charging us for Health Care. But, I honestly cant remember if I ever paid anywhere comperable to the rate they are charging now. So theyve been jacking up those prices for a while.
My party touted a plan of personal responsibility, where everyone was insured and taking care of their own medical expenses via reasonable, affordable, guaranteed health insurance. You party argued it was wrong to make people be responsible or make insurance providers be ethical.
Health Reform is supported now by a majority of people. Its not perfect, but its a start.
-----------------------------------------------QUOTED: The proposed Medciare cuts that will eventually go into effect will not even cover the cost of providing the tests. What a joke
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I havent heard anything about adjustment in Congress right now, OTHER THAN THE REPUBLICAN PLAN TO DO AWAY WITH MEDICARE AND PROVIDE VOUCHERS. Which sounds like a good way to recoup some of the PROFITS insurance companies will be losing as a result of acting ETHICAL.
He-LE89 who told you about the rates.
She-you, if you are the same True-Blue as from before.
She-you, if you are the same True-Blue as from before.
quote:Originally posted by TrueBlue:
No.....OUR DEMOCRACY has elected a leader who is trying to protect the interests of the people over the corporations.
What democracy?
quote:Originally posted by TrueBlue:
My party touted a plan of personal responsibility, where everyone was insured and taking care of their own medical expenses via reasonable, affordable, guaranteed health insurance. You party argued it was wrong to make people be responsible or make insurance providers be ethical.
Health Reform is supported now by a majority of people. Its not perfect, but its a start.
-----------------------------------------------QUOTED: The proposed Medciare cuts that will eventually go into effect will not even cover the cost of providing the tests. What a joke
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I havent heard anything about adjustment in Congress right now, OTHER THAN THE REPUBLICAN PLAN TO DO AWAY WITH MEDICARE AND PROVIDE VOUCHERS. Which sounds like a good way to recoup some of the PROFITS insurance companies will be losing as a result of acting ETHICAL.
Again, I call BS, your party is the party who is NOT advocating personal responsibility. What a friggin joke. They want more handouts and entitlements, and wat someone else to pay for it. Where do you think all of those new government insured plans are going to come from? Obama's personal wealth? a magic pot of money hidden deep in the White House?
BC/BS went up on their rates exponentially prior to the unveiling of Obama,s healthcare lan, and for most of us we have failed to see a great reduction in rates, especially if you are self employed and not part of a pool.
The idea of giving seniors the money to pay for the Medicare is actually one of personal responsibility (ironic that you mentioned thatin regards to the Dems) whereby they could choose a plan that best fit them. Not all 70 years are in bad health, and some might even have money in the bank and would opt for a bigger deductible plan with less out of pocket for testing, etc. In any case, the money would then go back into the system to insurance companies, probably making the pool larger and the costs more econmical for EVERYONE in the system not just the elderly.
The problem is the young people (ie, 26-35), some of whom do not work, or feel no need to have insurance (that feeling of invincibility leaves you around 40). They tend to be in more accidents and have catastrophic events that could bankrupt them. Perhaps it is not a bad idea to have to force them to purchase insurance, I don't know, but I have seen plenty of them come to the ER after wrecking their car or their motorcycle, which is usually insured, and have nothing to help take care of themselves. I guess we should be paying for everyone huh?
Your next argument will be blaming it on the high costs of the doctors, the tests, and the hospital. Does you business work for free? Obviously you have more work than you can do since you are throwing people out who disagree with your political ideals, unfortunately you can't do that in ERs and doctor offices.
Would you rather elaborate on that statement, or admit it's because people like YOU vote?
That which is asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof..
That which is asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof..
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I am sure that WNR made some smart remark after this post. He can't understand that his posts are invisible to me, since I put him on ignore. Replying to me only makes you feel better. It has no effect on me. When I was still reading him, it still had no effect on me.
The best you can do is put WNR on ignore. Come on, you can think of something to say. We know it’s not going to be true but, you can type something.
quote:It has no effect on me. When I was still reading him, it still had no effect on me.
So why put him on ignore?
quote:Originally posted by Jobe:
The best you can do is put WNR on ignore. Come on, you can think of something to say. We know it’s not going to be true but, you can type something.
I have stopped dealing with nitwits and morons. It is a waste of time.
quote:Originally posted by JimiHendrix:quote:Originally posted by Jobe:
The best you can do is put WNR on ignore. Come on, you can think of something to say. We know it’s not going to be true but, you can type something.
I have stopped dealing with nitwits and morons. It is a waste of time.
You left the democratic party????? LOL
I guess you're on ignore now, too.
The real morons and nitwits can't deal with challenging discussion.
The real morons and nitwits can't deal with challenging discussion.