And Bill never squarely addresses this question on "once-saved, always saved." He danced around it and offered pitiful irrelevant attempts at exegesis, but he ignored the meat of the question:
Okay, Bill, I'm gonna hold you to that. If you are called to refute false teachings, then you need to deal honestly with my longstanding challenge to you concerning your "once saved-always saved" belief. I posted text from II Peter 2 with annotations challenging your views on perseverance and asked you to respond, You have not responded. I must therefore conclude that either (1) you do NOT consider my interpretation of the subject to be "false teachings" or (2) you do consider what I posted to be "false teachings, but thus far you have failed to fulfill your self-assigned obligation to refute them.
So-o-o-o, for your convenience, once more I will post the aforementioned material, in hopes that you will either (1) acknowledge that I have taught the truth or (2) provide your refutation of what I have posted.
Here ya go, Bill. Now show us whether you are all blow and no show, or whether you actually DO what you SAY you do ("As Christian believers we are called to do this; to refute false teachings, to correct false teachers, and to share the Biblical truth.") Which shall it be, Bill? Will you provide an answer with substance, that addresses the issue, or will you cheap out again with some trite and irrelevant quotation or some cutesy cartoon?
This question has been before you a long time, Bill. It is time to either answer it with some kind of credible rebuttal or to acknowledge that the Apostle Peter's teaching trumps Bill's beliefs on the subject! Go for it! The Forum awaits!
You have yet to defend "Eternal security" against the clear and powerful teaching of II Peter 2: I gotcha "eternal security" right heah, Bill. Read it and pay special attention to the highlighted portions and then try to tell me that a saved person can not be lost:
12But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
13And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
14Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
15Which have forsaken the right way, {can't 'forsake' something, Bill, without having first accepted it][COLOR:BLACK]and are gone astray[/B][can't go 'astray, Bill,without having first been where one should be][/color] following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
16But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
17These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
18For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20For [b]if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ[/b],[These obviously are persons who at one time "escaped," but who returned to the 'pollutions of the world."] the they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and [B]the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.[Washing signifies cleansing, Bill, and the obvious allusion is that these miscreants Peter was describing had indeed once been cleansed of sin, but now had returned to their former lives of willful sinning]See how theologically conservative I am, Bill. I take the Word for what it says. You cherry-pick your Bible and torque passages to extract meaning that is just not there. You have often run from the truth about "eternal security" but you can't hide from the inspired apostolic teaching so clearly set forth by Brother Peter.