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The 7 Craziest Obamacare Conspiracy Theories

And why they're wrong.

| Tue Aug. 6, 2013 3:00 AM PDT

Obamacare is going to implant you with a microchip. Obamacare is going to tax your golf club. Obamacare is going to create a massive unprecedented federal database to hold all of your "intimate…secrets."

One of the largest components of the Affordable Care Act—the health exchanges from which Americans can buy discount health coverage—will go into effect on October 1. And that has right-wingers in conspiracy theory high gear. Here are seven conspiracy theories about the health care law, along with debunkings from the fact-check websites PolitiFact and Snopes:

1. Obamacare Will Tax Your Outboard Motor

The Claim: A chain email making the rounds this summer claims that a "hidden" provision of Obamacare taxes sporting goods as medical devices, including "Sport fishing equipment; Fishing rods and fishing poles; Electric outboard motors; Fishing tackle boxes; Bows, quivers, broadheads and points; Arrow shafts; Coal; Taxable tires; Gas guzzler automobiles." Yikes!

The Reality: Obamacare does impose a 2.3 percent tax on some medical devices to offset the added costs of expanding health coverage to the uninsured, which went into effect at the beginning of the year. But, as PolitiFact points out, none of the items listed in the chain email is labeled as a medical device by the federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, which defines the types of devices that can be taxed. No, Obamacare won't be taxing your golf club after all.
 

2. Obamacare Will Kill Your Grandma

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The Claim: Another zombie chain email warns that Obamacare will deny old people cancer treatment: "Please for the sake of many good people, please… pass this on. We all need to be informed. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS…  At age 76 when you most need it, you are not eligible for cancer treatment."

The Reality: This particular email has been making the rounds for a good four years, according to Snopes, and is based on an old version of the law that didn't pass. But even that version of the legislation did not ration cancer care; in fact, the American Nurses Association says the cancer treatment section of that law would implement "the opposite of rationing. The section allows Medicare to pay cancer hospitals more if they are incurring higher costs." Similarly, there is no cut-off age for cancer treatment under the law that passed, known as Obamacare. "The claim is based on an inaccurate reading of a bill that went nowhere," PolitiFact concludes.
 

3. Obamacare Comes With Microchips

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The Claim: Beware, Obamacare is going to implant a microchip in you, cautions yet another chain email batting around the internet: "This new Health Care (Obamacare) law requires and RFID [radio frequency identification] chip implanted in all of us. This chip will not only contain your personal information with tracking capability but it will also be linked to your bank account."

The Reality: As Snopes points out, "[C]laims that health care reform legislation will require such implantations date to the Clinton administration" and are "often linked to the 'mark of the beast' referenced in Revelations." The sections of legislation referenced in the email and others like it pertain to a passage in a previous version of the health care law that called for the creation of a registry that would allow the federal Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to collect data about medical devices "used in or on a patient"—such as pacemakers or hip replacements—in order to track their effectiveness. Nothing in the Affordable Care Act calls for the government to stick a microchip in your wrist.
 

4. Illegal Immigrants Are Eligible for Obamacare

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The Claim: Illegal immigrants will get health coverage under Obamacare, warns one widely circulated, oft-debunked, and still undead chain email.

The Reality: The health care law requires Americans (Americans) to purchase health insurance. Undocumented immigrants "don't have to follow the mandate because they shouldn’t be here," PolitiFact reiterates. "They [also] remain ineligible for regular Medicaid coverage, just as they are ineligible for food stamps."
 

5. Thomas Jefferson Warned Us About Obamacare

The Claim: Thomas Jefferson warned of the dangers of government interference in health care. Here is the purported quote from our founding father, via a chain email: "If the people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in a sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."

The Reality: Jefferson did write something similar in a book published in 1785 called Notes on the State of Virginia: "Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet," he wrote, "our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now." The latter quote was transformed into the former in the 1990s, Snopes explains, and has been trotted out repeatedly as a caution against government meddling in private medical practice. But that wasn't Jefferson's argument; he was suggesting that legislating morality was as useless as legislating what a person eats.
 

6. Almost Everyone Who Works for a Small Business Is Getting Fired

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The Claim: In late July, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), citing a study by the Chamber of Commerce, asserted that three-quarters of all small businesses have said they're going to fire workers or cut hours. Rubio said this is due to the provision in the law that requires businesses with 50 or more full-time employees to offer affordable health coverage or face a penalty.

The Reality: The Chamber study involved 1,300 small business executives, but PolitiFact did some digging and found out that the Chamber did not actually survey the entire group on whether they'd fire employees because of the law. Only 17 percent of survey members said they would be impacted by the law's so-called employer mandate. Out of that 17 percent of small businessmen and women, the study purportedly found that 75 percent of them said they would cut hours or replace workers, but Politico found that even that number was fudged by lumping survey questions together. Math shows that out of all small business execs in the study, only 5 to 9 percent actually said they would cut back hours or replace full-time workers in response to the health care law.
 

7. The Giant Obamacare Database

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The Claim: In May, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) warned of a "huge national database" created by the health care law that will collect Americans' "personal, intimate, most close-to-the-vest-secrets." The claim has been widely discredited, but fringy conservative email chains continue to perpetuate the falsehood.

The Reality: The government is not constructing a database that collects, centralizes, and stores data. The health care law does create something called a Federal Data Hub which will allow HHS to extract data—such as whether a person already has health insurance—from already existing databases at other state and federal agencies. The hub will be used to verify consumer information when they are purchasing health insurance on the exchanges. The hub also has the ability to access income data and Social Security numbers, but that information already exists in other federal databases, "so the hub wouldn’t represent an expansion of federal data collection," according to PolitiFact. Brian Cook, a spokesman for HHS, told the fact-checking organization that the hub will have "strict privacy controls to sa***uard personal information."

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There are still a bunch of right wing crazies who think FDR did not help the depression, and that Social Security  and Medicare should go away (Paul Ryan is one of those)

So, some 70 years after enactment of SS, and 50+ years after Medicare , two of the most popular programs that exist in the US is still under attack .

I believe, that in about 10 years, the Republican party will rue the day they tried to deride the ACA calling it Obamacare, because it will also be one of the most popular programs and it will have Obama's name all over it.

It will probably have some bumps along the way, but when people actually realize that Obamacare is NOT what the Republicans and their propaganda wing Fox News keeps telling , and that overall it is a good thing for the country as a whole and individuals as people, all that Karma will come back to haunt them for years to come.

There are a number of taxes, besides the medical device tax within the Affordable Care Act.

 

From an AP article, here is a synopsis of six taxes.  For details and what year these begin see the article.

 

"1.  Who pays: About 2.5 million households — individuals making more than $200,000 per year, couples $250,000.

How much: A 0.9 percent Medicare tax on wages above those threshold amounts; an additional 3.8 percent tax on investment income. Should raise $318 billion over 10 years.

 

2.  Who pays: The 28 million people who visit tanning booths and beds each year — most of them women under 30, according to the Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology.

How much: A 10 percent tax on the price of tanning. Expected to raise $1.5 billion over 10 years.

 

3.  Who pays: Insurance companies or businesses that provide plans with premiums of more than $10,200 per person or $27,500 per family, not including dental or vision coverage. Employees covered by these so-called "Cadillac" benefits probably will feel the pinch.

How much: 40 percent excise tax on any amount of premium that exceeds the threshold. Expected to raise $111 billion over five years.

 

4.  Who pays: Insurers, drug companies, medical device makers. And some of their customers.

How much: More than $165 billion over 10 years

 

5.  Who pays: People who set aside tax-free savings to pay for health care.

How much: About $33 billion over 10 years

 

6.  Who pays: People with big medical or dental bills who itemize deductions.

How much: Almost $19 billion over 10 years. Currently, taxpayers have to spend more than 7.5 percent of their adjusted gross income on medical care to qualify for a deduction. The threshold will rise to 10 percent. So a household with income of $50,000 would have to spend $5,000 on health care before deducting amounts above that."

 

http://news.yahoo.com/health-c...-pays-175130388.html

 

Yeah here is some propaganda from the right wing CNN extolling the virtues of the ACA.

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...-soar-095700316.html

 

Behind the numbers in 3 key states. In Florida, for instance, officials constructed a hypothetical silver-level plan based on the offerings available today. Then they looked at how the cost of that plan compares to the average silver plan that will be available on the exchange. Florida found premiums will rise between 7.6% and 58.8%, depending on the insurer. The average increase would be 35%

 

Will this all work out in the end? Maybe but I won't hold my breath. As for the comparisons with SS and Medicare the last I checked they looked to run out about the time I turn 65. Its not hard to figure out when you have a relatively young population and a lot more workers than retirees its all good. When that's no longer the case you have a problem.

 

Originally Posted by seeweed:

There are still a bunch of right wing crazies who think FDR did not help the depression, and that Social Security  and Medicare should go away (Paul Ryan is one of those)

So, some 70 years after enactment of SS, and 50+ years after Medicare , two of the most popular programs that exist in the US is still under attack .

I believe, that in about 10 years, the Republican party will rue the day they tried to deride the ACA calling it Obamacare, because it will also be one of the most popular programs and it will have Obama's name all over it.

It will probably have some bumps along the way, but when people actually realize that Obamacare is NOT what the Republicans and their propaganda wing Fox News keeps telling , and that overall it is a good thing for the country as a whole and individuals as people, all that Karma will come back to haunt them for years to come.

Seeweed,

UCLA is NOT a place where rightwing  crazies are found in abundance.

 

Their economics department produced a study that concluded that FDR's policies extended the Depression by at least seven years. 

 

"FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate

 

Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

 

After scrutinizing Roosevelt's record for four years, Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long years.

 

"Why the Great Depression lasted so long has always been a great mystery, and because we never really knew the reason, we have always worried whether we would have another 10- to 15-year economic slump," said Ohanian, vice chair of UCLA's Department of Economics. "We found that a relapse isn't likely unless lawmakers gum up a recovery with ill-conceived stimulus policies.' "

 

More at:

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/porta...Depression-5409.aspx

 

 One of the co-authors of the study is vice chair of the economics department.  I do not hold FDR personally responsible.  He took the advice of men who were operating under a new economic theory. 

 

However, I see no reason to make the same mistakes made in FDR's time.  The same mistakes the Republicans are trying to prevent. 

 

 

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by direstraits:

Social security, if unchanged, will have to decrease benefits by 25 percent in 20 years.  There will be funds available, just not nearly enough.

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Not to worry; I will most likely be dead by then.

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The exact sentiment of the perpetrators of Social Security.

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