"effect" is a noun. "affect" is a verb. End of discussion. I am correct.

When Should You Use Affect?

Affect

with an a means "to influence," as in, "The arrows affected Ardvark," or "The rain affected Amy's hairdo." Affect can also mean, roughly, "to act in a way that you don't feel," as in, "She affected an air of superiority."

When Should You Use Effect?

Effect

with an e has a lot of subtle meanings as a

noun, but to me the meaning "a result" seems to be at the core of all the definitions. For example, you can say, "The effect was eye-popping," or "The sound effects were amazing," or "The rain had no effect on Amy's hairdo."

You are in the wrong jimi.

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Again, you are wrong............The correct answer is Affect.. you said Effect.

You are Not the  CORRECT ANSWER 

LOOK AT ME,,LOOK AT ME , I'M JIMMA THE SCHOOL TEACHER

LMFAOROFLMAOA 

ANYBODY CAN MAKE THAT MISTAKE WHEN THEY AREN'T WATCHING.

BUT YOU WANT TO LIE ABOUT IT.

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I was a high school English teacher for 33 years. Obviously, you were not one of my students, or you would know the difference between a noun and a verb.

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Then why would you say NSNS blames a god for anything since you know as well as I do that he doesn't believe in a god?

GB, perhaps you don't want to "kill" an atheist but you certainly whole-heartedly support your God's primitive, evil system He devised where his children that are guilty of "thought crimes" of not "choosing to beleive" in him are toss into a lake of fire for eternity.

No, I do not expect you to ever understand the moral depraviy of such a system which is one of many reason we are angry.

Not only do you refuse to understand simple scientifi concepts, you are incapable of using logic.  You've asked "Why are atheists in this forum" a dozen or more times and it'

s been answer at least as many yet you still refuse to understand that we are here because you are here. If there were no religion, there would be no atheism,.  Stop being stupid and we will stop calling you on it.

There was a new person to the forum ( Time2 ) the other day, I hope they come in today, who also thought it strange that, if I remember what they said right, that there was more atheist in a forum named for religion than there were people of religion.

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 I have some iranian swampland for sale to anyone that believes that Time2 was a "new person".

"Atheists Sue to Block Display of Cross-Shaped Beam in 9/11 Museum"

To get back on topic.  It is a 'cross-shaped beam' found in the rubble after 9/11.  It was created by the destruction. It is not man made. Why would atheists have a problem with an beam from the 9/11 tragedy being put back at it's place of creation?

If you don't think it was created by any religious spirit, then how can you call it a cross?  Maybe it's the letter "T", or maybe it just a twisted piece of metal  that some people in their 'delusions' see as a cross.

This one is actually silly for all the uproar.

Are you ready, yet, to admit that it was you who were lying?

I didn't think so.

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So,,,,,,You're calling b50 a liar also??????

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Pffft! Good Lord what a retard  

Originally Posted by Jennifer:

I am just saying that you don't know a noun from a verb, a skill known by most 5th graders. The post you quoted above is incoherent. The red part says what I do: that "effect" is a noun and "affect" is a verb. Then he says that I am wrong, which contradicts the red part. This is just crazy.

Jemboy..........Who are you talking to??????????

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I believe that what you believe has no effect on reality.

I believe that what you believe has no influence on reality.

OR

I believe that what you believe has no result on reality.

I think the first is still correct.

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Yes.........The first is American English.

But Jemi speaks in some kind of broken pagan.

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I thought I was talking to you.

Neither of you knows "American" English, or, likely, any other kind, either. Maybe, between the two of you, you could afford a grammar book or night school.

Maybe you could tell us where you taught for 30 years?

We are up in arms over it because our freedoms must be aggressively defended.

We had absolutely no problem with it when is resided at a Catholic Church across the street from the site.   But now you want the government to fund the display of this divisive torture symbol.  My god, this steadfast belief in invisible beings is EXACTLY what caused those evil people to fly planes inot those buildings.

It is difficult to grasp the inability of some to see the dangers of our government not remaining neutral with respect to religion! 

Kinda touchy Jemboy, I don't believe you ever taught.

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Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:

Maybe you could mind your own business. Where I taught has nothing to do with their ignorance. I know They were not my students or they would know better.

It is your ignorance that is showing jimi.  Thankfully, I home-schooled so you can't have taught my kids. You brought it up, now defend it.

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Well, I didn't read your back on topic crap, there Mr. Bluesnot until now.

But have you ever ( I'm sure you have many times ) seen a

crucifix dropped into a large jug of atheist pizz. Don't even think

I give a rats azz about a rusty I Beam.

If I had known that was a atheist panty wadder, I would have found some

myself.

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The land the Ground Zero Memorial will be located upon is mostly owned by the the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.  Therfore, most of it isn't public land.

This cross controversy is one the atheists should not defend. Enough Pyhrric victories and you lose the war. 

WhaT???

Of course that is public land. 

Why do you say he was an atheist?

 And did people sit quietly by or did they protest and send him death threats??

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Andres Serrano (born August 15, 1950 in New York City) is an American photographer and artist who has become notorious through his photos of corpses and his use of faeces and bodily fluids in his work, notably his controversial work "**** Christ", a red-tinged photograph of a crucifix submerged in a glass container of what was purported to be the artist's own urine.

Serrano is from a half Honduran, half Afro-Cuban background, and was raised a strict Roman Catholic. He studied from 1967 to 1969 at the Brooklyn Museum and Art School. He worked as an assistant art director at an advertising firm, before creating his first works in 1983 at age 28.^[1] Serrano is represented in New York, where he lives and works, and Paris, by Yvon Lambert Gallery.^[2]

His work has been exhibited in diverse locations around the world including the Episcopal Cathedral of Saint John the Divine in New York City, World without end (2001), and a retrospective at the Barbican Arts Centre in London, Body and soul (2001).^[1]

His exhibitions have often inspired angry reactions. On October 5, 2007, several of his works were vandalized at an art gallery in Lund, Sweden by people who were believed to be part of a neo-**** group.^[3] On April 16, 2011, after two weeks of protests and a campaign of hate mail and abusive phone calls to an art gallery displaying his work, orchestrated by groups of French Catholic fundamentalists, approximately a thousand people marched through the streets of Avignon, to protest outside the gallery. On April 17, 2011, two of his works, **** Christ and The Church, were vandalized. The gallery director plans to reopen the museum with the damaged works on show "so people can see what barbarians can do".^[4]

The guy's 'taste' in art is questionable.  If you notice the neo-N A Z I S destroyed the work, the fundys protested.

I would not bother the guy but to display a crucifix in urine is disgusting, in many ways.

It sounds like his art is more than questionable, it sounds disgusting. But to claim it was atheists that did the P I S S "art" was wrong. And maybe it was a neo- n a z i group that vandalized it, but who's to say they were the ones or only ones sending him death threats.

I agree there, not knowing the guy or the art i would have checked to see if he was atheist first, but i am guessing that Invic assumed he was due to the art work.  I don't picture too many Christians putting a crucifix into urine and calling it art.

But then again, most of what I see today doesn't classify as 'art' anyway.

Give me Mona Lisa!

i had an idea....

 the terrorists that took down the towers claimed to be muslim, right?

who do the radical muslim extremists consider to be the greatest enemy to their religion?

jews and christians.

so, allow the giant cross and add a giant star of david, as a direct insult to the people who destroyed them.

i don't actually care about the religion/anti-religion aspect of hte topic, i just think it would be fun to take this chance to give the finger to the terrorists.

Nagel, I don't think the terrorists care. It's funny what people focus on and what they ignore. Put up a cross to honor the dead but bury them in a garbage dump??

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Seems an oxymoron Jenn.  If the remains are known to exist, they would not be there in the first place, identified or not. If the remains are little more than dust and pebbles, how are you going to find them in the first place?

If you assume everything from the debris has human remains, where do you bury millions of tons properly?

Side note: Back to the Catholic artist. Since almost all of the atheists on this forum started out going to church and believing, then wouldn't that mean you can't now be atheist? Did any one ask him if he goes to church now, is he a practicing Catholic now?

By that logic, no one can become 'enlightened' and become a non-believer.

B-I guess they're upset because of what they were promised.

WTC Families group founder Diane Horning says the city has failed to keep its promise to maintain the debris pile in a dignified and appropriate manner.

Horning, whose 26-year-old son, Matthew, was a technology employee at a financial firm who died in the World Trade Center attack, showed photographs that she and her husband took atop the debris pile. One shows the Arthur Kill flowing lazily in the distance, with New Jersey on the far bank.

The photos also capture less serene elements: a car or truck tire half-buried in the pebbled, muddy soil that had been spread over the debris pile; a trio of metal tubes protruding upward to vent methane gas from the bowels of the landfill; orphaned shoes and sneakers; half a rusted sewer drain; a cluster of white porcelain bath tiles still stuck to a chunk of concrete.

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As far as the "artist" now being an atheist, I have no idea. If you read about his other "works" you can see he's a sick puppy and the cross in the urine goes along with his other bizzare works of "art".  And again, if you can't change your mind and become a non-believer, you can't become a believer either. It has to work both ways. Is he an atheist? You can draw your own conclusions:

An artist is nothing without his or her obsessions, and I have mine.
Andres Serrano

As a former Catholic, and as someone who even today is not opposed to being called a Christian, I felt I had every right to use the symbols of the Church and resented being told not to.
Andres Serrano

Being born, especially being born a person of color, is a political act in itself.
Andres Serrano

I am an artist first and a photographer second.
Andres Serrano

I am drawn to Christ but I have real problems with the Catholic Church.
Andres Serrano

I am just an artist.
Andres Serrano

I don't think that because I am Hispanic I should therefore do Hispanic work.
Andres Serrano

I have always felt that I am the sum total of my parts.
Andres Serrano

I have always felt that my work is religious, not sacrilegious.
Andres Serrano

I have never been able to see myself as ****ing into one category, and I have never been able to limit my contact with people to one group of people.
Andres Serrano

I have never voted in my life.
Andres Serrano

I like Church furniture.
Andres Serrano

I like going to Church for aesthetic reasons, rather than spiritual ones.
Andres Serrano

I like the aesthetics of the Church.
Andres Serrano

I like to believe that rather than destroy icons, I make new ones.
Andres Serrano

I think if the Vatican is smart, someday they'll collect my work.
Andres Serrano

I usually refer to myself as Hispanic.
Andres Serrano

In my work, I explore my own Catholic obsessions.
Andres Serrano

My use of the medium - photography - is in some ways traditional.
Andres Serrano

My work has social implications, it functions in a social arena.
Andres Serrano

Sounds like he just like church buildings for the architecture.....

Atheist or theist--don't know.

There is no god and he's not responsible for anything, naturally.

If there was a god, why would he deny me the answers to the ways of Nature?  Because he wants me to worship him on faith?

The unfortunate truth for you, Vic, is that god's responsibilities have become smaller and smaller as we understand the universe.

I have every clue to what's going on with God.  People inject him into the gaps of their knowledge.  Those with more and larger gaps have more use for him.

Jesus won't be giving anyone any answers.  In the first place, he's largely a fictional character, based on previous mythologies including Horus, Mithra, and Oedipus.  Mostly Oedipus.

In the second place, religions as perfectly valid as yours (which is to say not at all) don't mention Jesus.  Or when they do, they denigrate him.

It's a myth, mate.  Jesus is another story of another hero in the fashion of the Roman Leventine.  Nothing about him is original.  The historical, as opposed to theological, evidence for his miracles and resurrection is nonexistent.

You will forgive me for not believing in a myth on what can be charitably called insufficient evidence.

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The more I read about him the more he sounds like he believes. Is he a christian? He thinks he is, but just like some others that claim to be christians he doesn't act like it.

By Ditzy:

"WhaT???

Of course that is public land"

Ditzy,

Just because you say its so, doesn't make it so.  Didn't your mama, or a teacher tell you that. Or, is logic lost upon you.

Once more, the Port Authority land isn't public.  The land where streets used to be located are public.  They are intermingled within the site of the Ground Zero Memorial.  Worst case, their commitee should hire a surveyor to determine which is public ground and locate the cross on Port Authority land.

100% of the Port Authority properties at WTC are owned by the public.  That is the job of the PA; to manage certain public properties.  Is the land at Huntsville International public or private, because it operates under the same arrangement.