The Call for Unity

Vic, my Friend,

 

Not sure what point you are trying to make.  Yes, we do have different Bible translations.  Yes, we do often differ in our interpretations of some points of Scripture.  Yes, some people have so twisted Scripture that they have created cult churches.

 

And, there are churches which want to relegate the Bible to a lesser authority -- while elevating their sacred book or traditions to a position of higher authority.

 

Two examples I can easily give you are (1) the Mormon church with their Book of Mormon, and (2) the Roman Catholic church with its Traditions, Catechisms, and Papal writings.

 

You may say that is not true about the Roman Catholic church.  But, any time we see the Bible in conflict with your Traditions -- your Traditions always trump the Bible, in your view.

 

 A great example is the Roman Catholic church's insistence upon forcing the Apocrypha INTO the Bible -- when most will admit that is not canon.

 

Jesus tells us in Scripture:

 

John 10:9-10, "I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.  The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly."

 

You tell us that Jesus came that we might have unity.   Not so!   He came that we might have life -- eternal spiritual life!   That was His one and only reason for coming to earth as God Incarnate.

 

So, once again, I ask you:  What is your point in starting this discussion?

 

You have stated before that you often post discussions -- JUST to start an argument.  Is that your purpose here?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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billieee said

You may say that is not true about the Roman Catholic church.  But, any time we see the Bible in conflict with your Traditions -- your Traditions always trump the Bible, in your view.

 

The Bible is the Truth and no Catholic Dogma or tradition will contradict it,

but Catholics do not believe that it is the authority. Otherwise there would

have been no authority for the first 400 years of the Church.

You have learned more from Catholic Traditions, Catechism, Papal writings

and online sites, when they are real sites, not your chuck smith

BS than you'll ever admit. 

 

You tell us that Jesus came that we might have unity.   Not so!   He came that we might have life -- eternal spiritual life!   That was His one and only reason for coming to earth as God Incarnate.

 

I said Jesus wanted us to have Unity. You said Jesus was a liar.

Jesus came to earth to atone for the sin of Adam and reopen the gates of

heaven. That was to give us a chance for Heaven. We still earn it or we lose

it. You still dream of the cowards way to Heaven with your osas lie.

Will never happen.

 

And I didn't start this post to talk to you anyway. You just butt in with a

suck azz attitude like you know something. You don't.

Vic, my Friend,

 

You tell me, "The Bible is the Truth and no Catholic Dogma or tradition will contradict it, but Catholics do not believe that it is the authority."

 

So, if the Bible is not the authority for God's body of believers, the church -- then WHAT IS the authority?   Something has to the highest authority, to guide the body of Christ.  So, if not the Bible, then what?   The Roman Catholic church?  The Roman Catholic Traditions and Dogmas?  What is the authority, my Friend?

 

If you say the Roman Catholic church Traditions and Dogmas are the authority; then you are agreeing with me.  So, what do you say -- the Bible OR Roman Catholic Traditions and Dogmas?

 

The rest of your post speaks volumes regarding your immaturity.

 

Bless your heart!

 

Bill

Vic, my Friend,

 

We agree that God: Father, Son, Holy Spirit is the highest authority for mankind.

 

However, God has given us two teachers:  the Holy Spirit and His Written Word, the Bible.

 

So, if the Bible AND Roman Catholic Traditions and Dogmas differ -- which one will you accept as being correct and being the highest authority?  Which will you say is wrong when the two differ?

 

And, they do differ, many times.  So, what say you:  Bible -- OR -- Roman Catholic Traditions and Dogmas?

 

Now, you can give a straightforward answer -- OR -- you can resort to your typical response and call me names.  Of course, when you take the latter avenue, calling me names, that only shows that you cannot give a straightforward answer -- and have to sink to name calling.

 

So, which is it:  an answer -- OR -- name calling?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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That's the truth of the matter and I'm sticking to it

Vic, my Friend,

 

Not a problem!  I realize there will always be folks like you who are not mature enough to enter into a civil, intelligent, productive discussion.   So, you will just continue to regurgitate whatever seeps into your mind.

 

Sad, but understandable.   Some folks never will mature.

 

Bless your little heart!

 

Bill

 

Vic, my Friend,

 

NO problem!  Just continue to regurgitate whatever is in your soul -- as you do when you just copy/paste your own writings.  Funny though.   YOU are the only person I know who plagiarizes himself!   Now, that has to be some kind of record.

 

And, my Friend, if you ever realize that you have no relationship with Jesus Christ -- then maybe you will realize your need to get into His Word, the Bible.   And, He does not mind you plagiarizing Him at all.  Matter of fact, He encourages it.  That should make YOU feel very welcome!

 

Bless your little plagiarized heart!

 

Bill

Technically he was reiterating himself.  Nothing wrong with that.

Hi David,

 

But, what is the purpose of just copy/pasting his exact same post -- with nothing added -- when the original is already just above?   It is childish and makes no sense.  It seems that he is just having a childish tantrum, determined to have the last word -- but, without the ability to think of anything new to write.

 

He has stated before that he will post 100% copy/paste of articles he has found on Google -- in an attempt to start an argument.  Seems like that is what he is doing when he just reposts his previous post.

 

If he has something new to add to a discussion, that is welcomed.  But, if he cannot think of something new to add, then he needs to be quiet and lets the adults converse.

 

Let me ask you:  Do YOU see any true purpose or reason for him posting the same thing over and over?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Why does anyone reiterate or repeat themselves?  Because there's no need to add anything, his opinion and position were stated, and then reiterated.   No crime has been committed here.

Hi David,

 

I have seen Vic do that 3, 4, 5 times -- always just copy/pasting the same thing over and over and over.   Does his post become more true, or false, the more times he copy/pastes it?

 

David, I realize that you want to defend Vic because you consider him a Roman Catholic.  But, if you would be honest with yourself -- you and I both know that his actions on the Religion Forum are an embarrassment to your church.

 

I have been having discussions with Roman Catholic Friends, both on Facebook and in my Friends Ministry eNewsletter, for years -- and I have never seen any Roman Catholic cast such a negative image on your church as he does.

 

I would love to have civil, constructive dialogues with him, you, and others on the forum.  And, for the most part, you and I do have good dialogues.  To have a good dialogue does not mean that we have to agree with one another.  We can, when necessary, disagree -- and still remain civil and have productive discussions.

 

But, with Vic, that is not possible -- for he would rather cast aspersions -- than have a discussion.

 

So, in summary, maybe repeating the same thing once, occasionally, for emphasis -- can be productive.  But, how productive is it -- if done 3, 4, 5 times.  And, Vic has done that.

 

David, thank you.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill