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Originally posted by excelman:
Heaven forbid we invest money in our own country and people. It should all be spent to secure Iraq so those people can have health care and good schools. We for sure don't want to spend any money rebuilding the levies or infastructure in N.O.


How many more BILLIONS have to be spent on NO before everybody realizes that the city is in a bowl and probably needs to be moved to a new location. As long as it stays where it is, there are going to be floods. I love NO and was married there. I just don't see continuing to dump all this money on it when there is no way to escape the fact that it is below sea level and is going to flood no matter what you do to defend it.
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Originally posted by excelman:
Heaven forbid we invest money in our own country and people. It should all be spent to secure Iraq so those people can have health care and good schools. We for sure don't want to spend any money rebuilding the levies or infastructure in N.O.


The people on these boards need to go to CNN or FOX and get a job, because they CERTAINLY know much more than any of the Anchors and Experts that are on those shows!!!! wow, I am so impressed.. Roll Eyes

Actually, I am not impressed at all, I do not believe any of those charts and graphs, because every single Media, every single channel on television and every newspaper says that is just NOT true.

So far, there is 600 BILLION dollars to the War, that is going toward a TRILLION so fast it is unreal!!!

Now tell me how it is going to Back DOWN because of your graphs?

OOOOps, I know, .... it dont!!!!! Big Grin
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Originally posted by Phoenix Rising:
More vague facts from Kindred. You forgot to mention the 75%, Bush Lied People Died, and the vague reference to how he is destroying the middle class.

I don't want you to back down Kindred because you do more damage to your causes with your wall of emotional, uniformed, purple text than you do mine.



I 'conveniently' forgot, just so you could say it this time Razzer
I have to agree with PR, in years past Congress used to pass the defense budget first and then all others second. Maybe those back then understood that it is the Government's job to provide for a Army and Navy as spelled out in the Constitution. The last time I checked no where did it promise me that my government must give me welfare, build my roads, or pay for a study for the mating habits between a frog and a cricket.

All I am saying is this...they bleeding heart liberals started crying about the cost even before we went to Iraq....if we so to **** with it, then maybe it will be a winnable war..but not until then. There are too many people that thinks they need their hands in the decision making that what needs to be done wont because we are afraid we may offend someone.
It would serve many to recall that for the last 12 yrs the Republicans (supposed conservatives) controlled congress. They did little to reign in spending. If anything they continued the spending on similar efforts as the Democrats had in years past. One has to wonder why while the Republicans had control of both houses they did not fix everything. Instead, they took a balanced budget and gave us, yet again, a deficit.

I have never met anyone who depends on the federal government to take care of them. Not one person.

I do know why we have a federal government that pays matching moneys for our highway system. Its because of the amount of moneys it costs to buy property, construct bridges, roads and maintain that infrastructure. Without roads we would have no economic expansion, fewer jobs, and no economic expansion. Some government spending is perfectly legit.
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Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
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Originally posted by excelman:
Heaven forbid we invest money in our own country and people. It should all be spent to secure Iraq so those people can have health care and good schools. We for sure don't want to spend any money rebuilding the levies or infastructure in N.O.


How many more BILLIONS have to be spent on NO before everybody realizes that the city is in a bowl and probably needs to be moved to a new location. As long as it stays where it is, there are going to be floods. I love NO and was married there. I just don't see continuing to dump all this money on it when there is no way to escape the fact that it is below sea level and is going to flood no matter what you do to defend it.
New Orleans is where the Mississippi River drains into the Gulf of Mexico. It happens to be a major sea port. The produce of middle America comes down the Mississippi to New Orleans, and the world's imports come up it. New Orleans exists to service the sea port. No New Orleans, no cargo in or out. No cargo, no economy.

The Port is doing well, despite the slow recovery of the city's housing inventory.
http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2006-08/2006-08-28-voa51.cfm
One of the major benefits of rebuilding a vital city is the opportunity to streamline the infrastructure. Of all the potential investments available to the Federal Government, New Orleans should top the list. But, the Bush Administration is asking for 100 billion dollars for the war in Iraq.
The latest recovery plan for New Orleans would spend 1.1 billion dollars on recovery and development. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/30/us/30orleans.html?em&...7a62120ce&ei=5087%0A Compare that to the 20 billion in pork in the Iraq war spending bill, and then to the 120 billion dollar total.
PRIORITIES are really hard to understand, when the FIRST one is continuing to participate in a war of aggression.
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Originally posted by Phoenix Rising:


Kinda sums it up. Don't it?
Sort of, but, in 1962 the Defense budget was 52 billion dollars, and a new VW cost 1800 dollars. In 2005 the Defense Budget was 450 billion (factor of 9) and a new VW was 13,000 (factor of 9) The cold war ended, midway in the period. The Federal budget in the same period went from 106 billion. to 2,399 Billion (factor of 22) You are correct, without social security and medicare, the Federal Budget would be a lot smaller. And the economy would be a lot smaller as well.

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