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that is the only way Obama sees of winning the Election, he has no Record to run on because he hasn't done anything but fly around, look Important and play Golf, over 100 Games so far, more than any President before him, he tries to Pit the women against the Men in pay,. the Hispanics against the Republican Party, and he already has the Black Vote sown up because he is one of them. that's all he has so us see how it works out, Don't know why anybody would want to be President, he has already spent all the Money, so why would anybody want it?

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Actually, Obama has NOT played more golf than any president in history:

 

According to a Golf Digest articlefrom 2008, Eisenhower played golf more than 800 times during his presidency.

And Ike's presidency wasn't a time of tranquillity in America or the world: The Civil Rights movement and Southern desegregation battles were under way; Castro came to power in Cuba; the French pulled out of Indochina in defeat and America began stepping up its own involvement in Vietnam; the Cold War between the United States and the Soviet Union was getting very chilly indeed.

 

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So if I were you, I'd be questioning the source of your information. If they got THAT wrong, how many other false things have they told you?

 

And Obama hasn't pitted anyone against anyone. Just because he'd like to see women FINALLY get paid the same wages for the same job as men get, you think that's a bad thing?

 

And the Republican party has done their own alienating of hispanics. Does Alabama's immigration law ring a bell? That was NOT a Democratic idea. How about Arizona? Did you think it was Obama telling the Republicans there to enact their barbarous law?

 

Why don't you place the blame where it BELONGS?

 

 

Nice spin, but not the truth. You have a problem proving you are a legal citizen? Do you want illegals to drive, vote, work, get free medical care?

 

What Rights Do Citizens Have Under the New Arizona Immigration Law 2010?

The Arizona immigration law SB1070 text does not affect anyone who is a United States Citizen because it targets illegal immigration. Under the law, both local and state governments cannot restrict themselves from enforcing federal immigration laws.

 

Furthermore, they require law enforcement on both the state and local level to reasonably attempt to determine a person’s immigration status when the individual is being lawfully stopped or is either arrested or placed in detention. This must be done to all individuals who are stopped in order to ensure that the individual has the right to be in the country. Any individual who is arrested must have their status verified with the federal government to ensure citizenship or rightful residency.

 

However, law enforcement cannot stop a person purely because they suspect the individual is an illegal immigrant. There must be some state or local ordinance or law and there must be reasonable suspicion of the individual breaking the law. More importantly, the Arizona immigration law SB1070 text implies that law enforcement must not consider race, national origin, or color when enforcing these provisions, except in ways that are permitted by the United States Constitution or the Arizona Constitution.

 

As long as a citizen has their proper identification, they can easily show that they have a right to reside in the country and in the state of Arizona. The Arizona immigration law text specifies an assumption of lawful presence as if the individual has an Arizona identification card or driver license, a tribal enrollment card or identification, or any other valid local, state, or federal identification that is issued by the government, as long as the issuing entity needs proof of legal presence before issuance.

Originally Posted by O No!:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...mmigration_law_(2010)

 

People are being stopped for NO REASON. ("Your tail light was out. It's working now. Must be a short")

 

Most people who are here "illegally" are unable to come up with the money it costs to go through legal channels. Our immigration laws MUST be reformed. It takes years and lots of cash to become legal. It shouldn't be that way.

Got any proof to that bull crap.  BTW, a short would blow a fuse and would not be intermittent.

So O No, what you are saying is that you don't care that illegal aliens pay absolutely no federal or state income taxes, get free school lunches, get on our welfare system, consume your future SSI retirement benefits, etc., etc., etc., and everyone should just accept this and stand in a circle holding hands & sing Kumbaya? You are no doubt a 99 percenter, tree hugging, greenpeacing, climate changing, gun banning, community organizing, wealth spreading, amnesty granting, liberal voter!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Originally Posted by O No!:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...mmigration_law_(2010)

 

People are being stopped for NO REASON. ("Your tail light was out. It's working now. Must be a short")

 

Most people who are here "illegally" are unable to come up with the money it costs to go through legal channels. Our immigration laws MUST be reformed. It takes years and lots of cash to become legal. It shouldn't be that way.

Got any proof to that bull crap.  BTW, a short would blow a fuse and would not be intermittent.

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http://articles.latimes.com/20...a-na-sweeps-20100501

 

Originally Posted by Practicalthinker:

So O No, what you are saying is that you don't care that illegal aliens pay absolutely no federal or state income taxes, get free school lunches, get on our welfare system, consume your future SSI retirement benefits, etc., etc., etc., and everyone should just accept this and stand in a circle holding hands & sing Kumbaya? You are no doubt a 99 percenter, tree hugging, greenpeacing, climate changing, gun banning, community organizing, wealth spreading, amnesty granting, liberal voter!!!!!!

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I can sees that you are anything BUT a practical thinker!  I'm talking about immigration REFORM, and you decide that means all that tripe you just posted? Can you READ? Or have you just decided that you know so much you don't HAVE to read what people have written to decide who they are?

 

Dismissed.

 

Originally Posted by O No!:

Sheriff Joe Arpaio has held illegal-immigration 'sweeps' for years in Maricopa County. They have made him popular in the state, but also have spurred lawsuits, investigations and complaints.

 

He did that BEFORE the law passed. 

 

Continuing with the post I made earlier.

 

The Arizona immigration law is not considered unconstitutional by undermining the Fourth Amendment. The law explicitly states that law enforcement officers cannot stop an individual because of suspicion of unlawful activity, rather than because of national origin, race, or color. 

 

Furthermore, all of the protections found in the Fourth Amendment against profiling continue to apply even when the institution of the Arizona immigration bill. In one aspect, the new Arizona immigration law reduces the chance of race-based harassment by forcing police officers to contact federal agencies as soon as it is reasonable when the law enforcement officer suspects an individual is an illegal alien, rather than allowing an officer to make arrests based on his or her own assessment.

Originally Posted by O No!:

That's jus ONE of the fees. Here is some info on the others. (Go toward the bottom of the page)

 

http://washingtonindependent.c...o-become-an-american

There is a five year waiting period between temporary legal status and applying for Naturalization. If someone was serious about becoming a citizen, don't you think they could save up for it? The costs would equal one good computer or two IPads which people seem to have no trouble buying.

 

A number of fees were increased. Green card application fees will increase from $930 to $985, while certain temporary legal status application fees will go from $710 to $1,130. Most applicants have to wait long periods to actually enter the U.S. — if they are allowed entry at all — even after shelling out the $985 fee.

The US must control its borders as part of immigration reform.  Without that, reform is meaningless.  For Mexico, a simple method of allowing migrant workers in to work on the farms, then return to their nation should be enacted.  Many migrant workers would be willing to return to Mexico, if they were certain of belng allowed to return to the US to work again. An inducement might be to collect their soclal security (employee's and employer's shares) and keep then in a separate account.  The migrant workers aren't usually eligible for social security benefits.  When they reach a certain age, the US could remit their contributions to them -- nothing extra, thru a Mexican bank.

 

As to the legal immigrant process for permanent green card and those wishing citizenship, only those with needed skills should be allowed to immigrant.  I like Romney's statement about work visas for those with advanced degrees, but advanced degree skills we need.

Originally Posted by O No!:
Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Originally Posted by O No!:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...mmigration_law_(2010)

 

People are being stopped for NO REASON. ("Your tail light was out. It's working now. Must be a short")

 

Most people who are here "illegally" are unable to come up with the money it costs to go through legal channels. Our immigration laws MUST be reformed. It takes years and lots of cash to become legal. It shouldn't be that way.

Got any proof to that bull crap.  BTW, a short would blow a fuse and would not be intermittent.

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http://articles.latimes.com/20...a-na-sweeps-20100501

 

This guy got pulled over for a tag violation and had to wait 10 minutes in his truck.  Big wup-tee-doo.  Like I orginally said, bull crap.

BTW, I speak from experience on the return of SS contributions.  While in France, I had to contribute to their national pension and health care plans, both of which I couldn't qualify for.  When I returned to the states, I filed for return of the contributions -- got it back, at a higher euro exchange rate than I paid in.  That's not going to happen, again. 

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