The IRS is buying new shotguns

Dah-ANG! I'd always heard 'don't mess with the IRS'.

I'm filing! I'm filing! Lower your weapon!

So? Just about every law enforcement agency has shotguns on hand for "special occasions" involving extreme resistance by suspected violators. In the case of the IRS, there are some incidents where tax resisters get violent and become a threat to officers. If your local city cops and sheriff's department need shotguns, so do certain IRS agents.

I agree. BUT...when using MY tax dollars, I want ALL other purchase options explored. Apparently THE ONLY shotgun up for purchase consideration is the Wilson Combat Model. Most LE agencies cannot afford OR justify shelling out a MINIMUM of $1050 per shotgun. Remington makes an almost identical model for ONE THIRD the cost.

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So? Just about every law enforcement agency has shotguns on hand for "special occasions" involving extreme resistance by suspected violators. In the case of the IRS, there are some incidents where tax resisters get violent and become a threat to officers. If your local city cops and sheriff's department need shotguns, so do certain IRS agents.

And in these cases...is it not viable for the IRS to call in the other Law Departments, with better experience, whom have this "hardware" to back them up?
After all...it's all Government.

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Originally posted by CageTheElephant:

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So? Just about every law enforcement agency has shotguns on hand for "special occasions" involving extreme resistance by suspected violators. In the case of the IRS, there are some incidents where tax resisters get violent and become a threat to officers. If your local city cops and sheriff's department need shotguns, so do certain IRS agents.

And in these cases...is it not viable for the IRS to call in the other Law Departments, with better experience, whom have this "hardware" to back them up?
After all...it's all Government.

That is a judgment call, and the IRS has to make its own judgment on that. Since they are the ones whose lives might be at stake, I will defer to their judgment.

Abolish the IRS, implement a 10% flat tax and this problem will be solved.

I KNOW I can furnish those weapons cheaper.

Sounds like the IRS is getting ready to "kick it up another notch..."

This is quite comparable to buying a Lincoln Blackwood to haul construction materials for a builder. The word "overkill" is amusingly accurate in this case.

The IRS arming themselves?

Does anyone else see something drastically wrong with this picture?

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) intends to purchase sixty Remington Model 870 Police RAMAC #24587 12 gauge pump-action shotguns for the Criminal Investigation Division. The Remington parkerized shotguns, with fourteen inch barrel, modified choke, Wilson Combat Ghost Ring rear sight and XS4 Contour Bead front sight, Knoxx Reduced Recoil Adjustable Stock, and Speedfeed ribbed black forend, are designated as the only shotguns authorized for IRS duty based on compatibility with IRS existing shotgun inventory, certified armorer and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts.

I wonder what the rest of the arsenal looks like?

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Originally posted by RoadHawg:
The IRS arming themselves?

Does anyone else see something drastically wrong with this picture?

Better get those taxes paid by April 15th!

A 14 inch barrel? Um,...well...wow.

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Originally posted by RoadHawg:
The IRS arming themselves?

Does anyone else see something drastically wrong with this picture?

If it is, it's been wrong for a long time. They've had enforcement powers since inception in the 1800s. They're a branch of the Treasury Department, as is the US Secret Service.

Nothing wrong with their criminal investigators being armed. I do have a problem with needing one of the most expensive, custom manufactured shotguns on the market, though. Remington makes a very comparable model for around $400.00.

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Originally posted by flashbridge:
A 14 inch barrel? Um,...well...wow.

US law allows short barrel shotguns for law enforcement purposes, not to mention individuals may be licensed to possess them by the ATF.

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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:

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Originally posted by RoadHawg:
The IRS arming themselves?

Does anyone else see something drastically wrong with this picture?

If it is, it's been wrong for a long time. They've had enforcement powers since inception in the 1800s. They're a branch of the Treasury Department, as is the US Secret Service.

Nothing wrong with their criminal investigators being armed. I do have a problem with needing one of the most expensive, custom manufactured shotguns on the market, though. Remington makes a very comparable model for around $400.00.

I guess even after all these years I never realized they had an ARMED enforcement division.

Seems to me they could just as well "borrow" their firepower (that still don't sound good) at the LOCAL level if they needed that kind of enforcement. (sheriffs dept. perhaps...)

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Originally posted by SS97:
as the only shotguns authorized for IRS duty based on compatibility with IRS existing shotgun inventory, certified armorer and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts.

ANY individual qualified to service a standard Remington 870 CAN service the Wilson Combat model. They are procuring this particular model because they WANT it....plain and simple.

I'm sure someone will straighten me out on this but I don't see any mention of Wilson Combat shotguns in the article. I do see mention of a Wilson Combat sight on a Remington 870 RAMAC (msrp $800).

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Originally posted by ferrellj:
Abolish the IRS, implement a 10% flat tax and this problem will be solved.

If you abolish the IRS, who will pay their taxes, flat or otherwise?

I guess the IRS is getting pretty serious about getting their hand in your pocket. Things would have to be going to Hades in a hurry for me to fire my shotgun with the 18-inch barrel, much less one with a 14-inch barrel. I feel for the person that fires a sabot round outta that thing.

Get them some saiga 12ga semiauto with 10rd mags.Then i bet everybody will up them taxes.