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If by "Democrats," you mean just about anyone in San Francisco or anywhere else who posts something strange like the link you put up, then have at it. But do not think for a moment that very many folks who read that are going to take it as anything like an indication that more than a tiny fringe element of persons in the Democrat camp or elsewhere really regard Obama that way. I could do as you have done and dredge up some nutcake right wing moronic drivel from the internet and post it here as somehow exemplary of what Republicans are about, but I have more respect for the forum readership than to take that kind of irrelevant cheap shot. YOU should know that there is so much far-out stuff available on the internet that undisciplined critics such as yourself can easily find extremist junk to throw on a forum somewhere in a tawdry effort to stigmatize almost any organization--political, religious, social or otherwise. In summary, use just a teeny bit of judgment and maybe you won't post stuff on here that makes you look foolish.
quote:Originally posted by marksw59:
A friend of mine said, "Just when I think Democrats can't get any more absurdly deranged, they go and find religion on me."
I hate to put in a link, but here you go:
not one of us...
lol Obama is not enlightened, he's conflicted.
I think mark is closer than you might think. B.O. can do nothing wrong. He is responsible for more gaffes than Dan Quayle, yet it is overlooked by the media and his adoring followers. Without the telprompters he comes off like a bumbling fool. How else can it be explained that someone with his inexperience, and his questionable ties to convicts and terrorists are all but ignored, again, by the press and his awe inspired 'disciples'.
Also, he has put so many things 'off limits', such as his ears, his wife, his minister, his misstatements, his mom, his early school education, his dad........
Also, he has put so many things 'off limits', such as his ears, his wife, his minister, his misstatements, his mom, his early school education, his dad........
quote:Originally posted by gracies old man:
I think mark is closer than you might think. B.O. can do nothing wrong. He is responsible for more gaffes than Dan Quayle, yet it is overlooked by the media and his adoring followers. Without the telprompters he comes off like a bumbling fool. How else can it be explained that someone with his inexperience, and his questionable ties to convicts and terrorists are all but ignored, again, by the press and his awe inspired 'disciples'.
Also, he has put so many things 'off limits', such as his ears, his wife, his minister, his misstatements, his mom, his early school education, his dad........
What you think he's part of the bloodline?
The only bumbling fool I have seen speak publicly without a script is George W.
He is pathetic on impromptu speeches.
He is pathetic on impromptu speeches.
Hi Mark,
You tell us, "A friend of mine said, 'Just when I think Democrats can't get any more absurdly deranged, they go and find religion on me.' I hate to put in a link, but here you go: not one of us..."
Several things get my attention. But, first of all, let me assure you and everyone that I am not in any way looking with favor upon an Osama Obama presidency. I will vote for John McCain, which I will explain in a separate post.
The first thing which caught my attention is that this article originated in San Francisco; the land of loonies, the chief being Nancy Pelosi, with her sidekick, Mayor Gavin Newsom. The author of the article is a yoga teaching New Age wonder boy; so the article just stays in tune with him. Yoga Teacher is using his misdirection method of trying to convince everyone that Osama Obama is a Lightworker, which in New Age rhetoric is a special extraterrestrial, possibly even an "Ascended Master." What is an Ascended Master? These are the long dead humans who have achieved spiritual godness; or they are an extraterrestrial god -- either of which can be channeled by the gifted New Age guru (for a generous donation).
No, Osama Obama is none of this. He is simply a young man, born to a Muslim father and an atheist mother; who attended Muslim school as a youngster. His paternal family is living in Kenya, cheering and celebrating that one of their Muslim sons has a chance to become president of the United States. Last week, a news channel showed the Kenyan family celebrating Osama Obama's victory. Who would have thought a Muslim son of Kenya would have a shot at the White House?
And, although Osama Obama is a gifted speaker, which in no way makes him a gifted leader -- he is nothing more than that: an orator.
Another point I want to make about Osama Obama: I believe he has masterfully orchestrated the Jeremiah Wright dance. Then, he followed this up with the Father Michael Pfleger mockery show. Who is Father Pfleger? He is a longtime friend and associate of Osama Obama, having known him since Osama Obama was a community activist. In September, the Osama Obama campaign brought Father Pfleger to Iowa to host one of several interfaith forums for the campaign.
Then, of course, we had Father Pfleger's showtime performance, "Let's Mock Hillary" live from the pulpit.
In my mind, these were both orchestrated by Osama Obama to allow himself to stand above both and declare that this is not the way he thinks. Can't you just picture the meeting where Obama, Wright, and Pfleger sat in a dimly lighted office, planning just how they would pull off these performances -- which would allow an indignant Osama Obama to deny them both? Wonder if both will have an office in the Osama Obama White House? Yes, that makes my skin crawl also.
No, my Friends, Osama Obama is not a Lightworker, he is not an Ascended Master, he is nothing more than a skilled orator and a masterful deceiver. He is a man who began his education in a militant Muslim school, whose family in Kenya is praying to Allah that he will be elected -- and a man who would say or do anything to gain the power he so graves, the Oval Office.
If by some horrible mistake he should win this office; I can just picture him in the White House Oval Office, sitting there, like a child at LEGO Land, trying to figure out what he should do next. He would be like the young man who caught the tiger by the tail -- and now wonders what in the world he is going to do with it. This man is not qualified to be president of the United States; he is still in Kindergarten when it comes to politics, diplomacy, and military leadership.
We all know that he is doing everything in his power to grab onto the Kennedy merry-go-round, trying to grab the golden ring, and hoping some of the JFK mystique will rub off on him. He would not know what to do with the ring if he, by some miracle, were to grab it.
These are just my thoughts.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill Gray
billdory@pacbell.net
Alabama bred,
California fed,
Blessed by God to be a Christian American!
You tell us, "A friend of mine said, 'Just when I think Democrats can't get any more absurdly deranged, they go and find religion on me.' I hate to put in a link, but here you go: not one of us..."
Several things get my attention. But, first of all, let me assure you and everyone that I am not in any way looking with favor upon an Osama Obama presidency. I will vote for John McCain, which I will explain in a separate post.
The first thing which caught my attention is that this article originated in San Francisco; the land of loonies, the chief being Nancy Pelosi, with her sidekick, Mayor Gavin Newsom. The author of the article is a yoga teaching New Age wonder boy; so the article just stays in tune with him. Yoga Teacher is using his misdirection method of trying to convince everyone that Osama Obama is a Lightworker, which in New Age rhetoric is a special extraterrestrial, possibly even an "Ascended Master." What is an Ascended Master? These are the long dead humans who have achieved spiritual godness; or they are an extraterrestrial god -- either of which can be channeled by the gifted New Age guru (for a generous donation).
No, Osama Obama is none of this. He is simply a young man, born to a Muslim father and an atheist mother; who attended Muslim school as a youngster. His paternal family is living in Kenya, cheering and celebrating that one of their Muslim sons has a chance to become president of the United States. Last week, a news channel showed the Kenyan family celebrating Osama Obama's victory. Who would have thought a Muslim son of Kenya would have a shot at the White House?
And, although Osama Obama is a gifted speaker, which in no way makes him a gifted leader -- he is nothing more than that: an orator.
Another point I want to make about Osama Obama: I believe he has masterfully orchestrated the Jeremiah Wright dance. Then, he followed this up with the Father Michael Pfleger mockery show. Who is Father Pfleger? He is a longtime friend and associate of Osama Obama, having known him since Osama Obama was a community activist. In September, the Osama Obama campaign brought Father Pfleger to Iowa to host one of several interfaith forums for the campaign.
Then, of course, we had Father Pfleger's showtime performance, "Let's Mock Hillary" live from the pulpit.
In my mind, these were both orchestrated by Osama Obama to allow himself to stand above both and declare that this is not the way he thinks. Can't you just picture the meeting where Obama, Wright, and Pfleger sat in a dimly lighted office, planning just how they would pull off these performances -- which would allow an indignant Osama Obama to deny them both? Wonder if both will have an office in the Osama Obama White House? Yes, that makes my skin crawl also.
No, my Friends, Osama Obama is not a Lightworker, he is not an Ascended Master, he is nothing more than a skilled orator and a masterful deceiver. He is a man who began his education in a militant Muslim school, whose family in Kenya is praying to Allah that he will be elected -- and a man who would say or do anything to gain the power he so graves, the Oval Office.
If by some horrible mistake he should win this office; I can just picture him in the White House Oval Office, sitting there, like a child at LEGO Land, trying to figure out what he should do next. He would be like the young man who caught the tiger by the tail -- and now wonders what in the world he is going to do with it. This man is not qualified to be president of the United States; he is still in Kindergarten when it comes to politics, diplomacy, and military leadership.
We all know that he is doing everything in his power to grab onto the Kennedy merry-go-round, trying to grab the golden ring, and hoping some of the JFK mystique will rub off on him. He would not know what to do with the ring if he, by some miracle, were to grab it.
These are just my thoughts.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill Gray
billdory@pacbell.net
Alabama bred,
California fed,
Blessed by God to be a Christian American!
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quote:Originally posted by marksw59:quote:Originally posted by beternU:
If by "Democrats," you mean just about anyone in San Francisco or anywhere else who posts something strange like the link you put up, then have at it.[QUOTE]
Ummm... did you miss the part about where I said, "A friend of mine said,"...
No-- I caught that. I referred to someone who posts something strange LIKE the link you put up. You DID put up tht link, did you not?
[QUOTE]But do not think for a moment that very many folks who read that are going to take it as anything like an indication that more than a tiny fringe element of persons in the Democrat camp or elsewhere really regard Obama that way.[QUOTE]
I thought the The San Francisco Chronicle was well respected among the Demos... pardon me...
THE AUTHOR of the piece was not the Chronicle. He is a columnist who is at liberty to state his own views. The Chronicle does not necessarily endorse views of its columnists. However, unlike many right wing rags, they do not constrain and restrict content of their columnists' remarks so as to present a boring and predictable propaganda platform for the ultraconservative point of view.
[QUOTE]I could do as you have done and dredge up some nutcake right wing moronic drivel from the internet and post it here as somehow exemplary of what Republicans are about, but I have more respect for the forum readership than to take that kind of irrelevant cheap shot. YOU should know that there is so much far-out stuff available on the internet that undisciplined critics such as yourself can easily find extremist junk to throw on a forum somewhere in a tawdry effort to stigmatize almost any organization--political, religious, social or otherwise. In summary, use just a teeny bit of judgment and maybe you won't post stuff on here that makes you look foolish.
So you like Obama do you? Good for you. I complimented you, just a teeny bit of judgment there.
I sure like him better than any Republican, including McCain. Hqven't we had enough disasters from these Bushi t e incompetents?
quote:Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Mark,
You tell us, "A friend of mine said, 'Just when I think Democrats can't get any more absurdly deranged, they go and find religion on me.' I hate to put in a link, but here you go: not one of us..."
Several things get my attention. But, first of all, let me assure you and everyone that I am not in any way looking with favor upon an Osama Obama presidency. I will vote for John McCain, which I will explain in a separate post.
The first thing which caught my attention is that this article originated in San Francisco; the land of loonies, the chief being Nancy Pelosi, with her sidekick, Mayor Gavin Newsom. The author of the article is a yoga teaching New Age wonder boy; so the article just stays in tune with him. Yoga Teacher is using his misdirection method of trying to convince everyone that Osama Obama is a Lightworker, which in New Age rhetoric is a special extraterrestrial, possibly even an "Ascended Master." What is an Ascended Master? These are the long dead humans who have achieved spiritual godness; or they are an extraterrestrial god -- either of which can be channeled by the gifted New Age guru (for a generous donation).
No, Osama Obama is none of this. He is simply a young man, born to a Muslim father and an atheist mother; who attended Muslim school as a youngster. His paternal family is living in Kenya, cheering and celebrating that one of their Muslim sons has a chance to become president of the United States. Last week, a news channel showed the Kenyan family celebrating Osama Obama's victory. Who would have thought a Muslim son of Kenya would have a shot at the White House?
And, although Osama Obama is a gifted speaker, which in no way makes him a gifted leader -- he is nothing more than that: an orator.
Another point I want to make about Osama Obama: I believe he has masterfully orchestrated the Jeremiah Wright dance. Then, he followed this up with the Father Michael Pfleger mockery show. Who is Father Pfleger? He is a longtime friend and associate of Osama Obama, having known him since Osama Obama was a community activist. In September, the Osama Obama campaign brought Father Pfleger to Iowa to host one of several interfaith forums for the campaign.
Then, of course, we had Father Pfleger's showtime performance, "Let's Mock Hillary" live from the pulpit.
In my mind, these were both orchestrated by Osama Obama to allow himself to stand above both and declare that this is not the way he thinks. Can't you just picture the meeting where Obama, Wright, and Pfleger sat in a dimly lighted office, planning just how they would pull off these performances -- which would allow an indignant Osama Obama to deny them both? Wonder if both will have an office in the Osama Obama White House? Yes, that makes my skin crawl also.
No, my Friends, Osama Obama is not a Lightworker, he is not an Ascended Master, he is nothing more than a skilled orator and a masterful deceiver. He is a man who began his education in a militant Muslim school, whose family in Kenya is praying to Allah that he will be elected -- and a man who would say or do anything to gain the power he so graves, the Oval Office.
If by some horrible mistake he should win this office; I can just picture him in the White House Oval Office, sitting there, like a child at LEGO Land, trying to figure out what he should do next. He would be like the young man who caught the tiger by the tail -- and now wonders what in the world he is going to do with it. This man is not qualified to be president of the United States; he is still in Kindergarten when it comes to politics, diplomacy, and military leadership.
We all know that he is doing everything in his power to grab onto the Kennedy merry-go-round, trying to grab the golden ring, and hoping some of the JFK mystique will rub off on him. He would not know what to do with the ring if he, by some miracle, were to grab it.
These are just my thoughts.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill Gray
billdory@pacbell.net
Alabama bred,
California fed,
Blessed by God to be a Christian American!
And among the things that the Democratic nominee is NOT--He is NOT "Osama Obama," as you, in your miserbably failed attempt at cuteness, have called him in your attack-dog post.
quote:Originally posted by marksw59:quote:Originally posted by muspamaddy:
The only bumbling fool I have seen speak publicly without a script is George W.
He is pathetic on impromptu speeches.
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Amen--he is indeed the WORST public speaker of any president in my lifetime, and I go back to FDR!
"Osama Obama," is it now bill gray? How witty, did that come to you in a fit of religious ecstasy or perhaps you used the urim and thummin to come up with such.
Your silliness has reached a new low, and that is saying a lot for a person who believes the earth is 6000 years old, that a talking snake led mankind into sin and that dinosaurs walked in the recent past with humans. Now that is hard to trump, but somehow you managed!
Methinks you have too much Hagee on the brain or else reading the last book of the Bible too often has made mush of your already questionable intellect.
Go tell us about the Triburapture or how Leviticus is more than an archaic taboo code for permodern bedouins, i.e., that at which you at least make most laugh.
Your silliness has reached a new low, and that is saying a lot for a person who believes the earth is 6000 years old, that a talking snake led mankind into sin and that dinosaurs walked in the recent past with humans. Now that is hard to trump, but somehow you managed!
Methinks you have too much Hagee on the brain or else reading the last book of the Bible too often has made mush of your already questionable intellect.
Go tell us about the Triburapture or how Leviticus is more than an archaic taboo code for permodern bedouins, i.e., that at which you at least make most laugh.
Bill, for the love of cheese and crakers, will you please call him Barack Obama, instead of Osama Obama? Its just getting tired. We get it.
quote:Originally posted by muspamaddy:
The only bumbling fool I have seen speak publicly without a script is George W.
He is pathetic on impromptu speeches.
This past weekend, Obama struggled over his words in a way that would have received full media coverage had it been George W. Bush.
muspam and betern-
You have got to take the blinders off. With a script and teleprompters he's a decent orator, but off the cuff and impromptu, he is has made some gaffes that rival anything Bush or Quayle have ever done. Many of them have been posted here in the last few weeks and a couple of the absolute worst were said on the 5th of June at a "town hall meeting" in Bristol, Va. in regards to health care and the GI bill being considered in Congress. The reason you may not be aware of them is the national media doesn't treat them like they did w/ Bush or Quayle or anyone on the Right. Or maybe it's just the rabid anti-bush kicking sentiment kicking in and overshadowing reality.
You have got to take the blinders off. With a script and teleprompters he's a decent orator, but off the cuff and impromptu, he is has made some gaffes that rival anything Bush or Quayle have ever done. Many of them have been posted here in the last few weeks and a couple of the absolute worst were said on the 5th of June at a "town hall meeting" in Bristol, Va. in regards to health care and the GI bill being considered in Congress. The reason you may not be aware of them is the national media doesn't treat them like they did w/ Bush or Quayle or anyone on the Right. Or maybe it's just the rabid anti-bush kicking sentiment kicking in and overshadowing reality.
here they are-- B.H. Obama's gaffes-
he blames it on a lack of sleep. What would he do when he's prez? and gets that call at 3 am.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBX8sz3tO8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbpWonUzlrc
what is an INHALATOR?
QUITE ELOQUENT!
he blames it on a lack of sleep. What would he do when he's prez? and gets that call at 3 am.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBX8sz3tO8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbpWonUzlrc
what is an INHALATOR?
QUITE ELOQUENT!
quote:Originally posted by jamofpearls: Bill, for the love of cheese and crakers, will you please call him Barack Obama, instead of Osama Obama? Its just getting tired. We get it.
Hi Jam,
Welcome to the Forum. You ask me to address Senator Obama with respect. I am sorry; for I have absolutely no respect for him as a Senator and especially as a man to lead our country. As a potential leader of America; the only feelings I can muster for him are distrust, discomfort, and fear. As much as I disliked Hillary; I believe he is 1000 times more dangerous for America than Hillary.
I believe he will sell out America. He is strongly pro-abortion -- so, under his administration we will see millions more babies being sacrificed to Molech, the god of pleasure and sexual fun. He is such a "dove" -- even worse that Billy Bob Clinton -- that he will sell out our military; even more than Clinton. He will take the "welfare state" begun by FDR to new heights of misglory. In my point of view; there is not one single thing positive for this man -- yet, the negatives stack up above the skyscrapers. You see him as Barack Obama; I see him as Osama Obama.
As Louis Armstrong sang, "You like potato and I like potahto, You like tomato and I like tomahto. Potato, potahto, Tomato, tomahto,. . ."
I want to see an America leaning back toward our Christian heritage. Yet, with him as president, we would be going to the "extreme far left" -- toward having Secular Humanism as our national religion. As a matter of fact, I see him as being so extreme far left -- he would have travel miles in the "right" direction to even be considered a "far left" liberal. This man is a danger to America. Sorry, his voting record in his "very short" tenure in the Senate prove this.
He is trying to project the image of JFK. In the 1988 vice-presidential debate Senator Dan Qualye tried to use the JFK name to promote himself. Senator Lloyd Benson responded to Dan Quayle's attempt, "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy."
Well, I would add today, "Mr. Obama, even though you were able to get a couple of Kennedys to support you -- you definitely are not a Jack Kennedy. And, I pray that the rest of America will see through this farce."
Jack Kennedy's family line traced back to Ireland; a Christian nation. Obama's traces back to Kenya, a Muslim nation. Has anyone, besides me, wondered what book Obama would use to take his oath of office if elected. Keep in mind that we now have the precedence of two men in congress using the Qur'an instead of the Bible. Wonder if Obama would have the courage of his convictions to do what is in his heart? Does anyone even have any idea what is in this man's heart -- except the power of the Oval Office? Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing.
As you might have guessed; I will NOT be voting for Osama Obama.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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Kenya is most certainly not a "Muslim nation" as Gill Bray or however the snake handling Bema seat judgement advocate styles himself.
Kenya is a multiethnic, multireligious state, with a large Muslim population on the borders of the Afro-Muslim historic area such as the borders with Somalia and Mombassa, but the majority of the people in Kenya are Christians.
The majority of subsaharan Africa are Christian.
Uganda, Angola, Kenya, Zimbabwe, South Africa, the Congo states, and most of the rest of the continent south of and including Ethopia are Christian, with there being sizeable Muslim minorities, but the majority of the people are Christian, that is fact and Gill Bray's lies can't negate that.
Senator Obama's father's family were of Black African Somali ancestry who migrated into the Kenyan lines at one time. Somalia is nearly completely Muslim, that is why the Obama family practiced (if the term can even be used as most Muslims would recognize it) that faith.
Obama's father was appearantly a Muslim like Lenin was a member of the Russian Orthodox Church or Lev Bronstein [Trotsky] practiced Judaism.
Ole Gill Bray has a comic book religion and now comic book politics -- is his problem genetic or geriatric?
Kenya is a multiethnic, multireligious state, with a large Muslim population on the borders of the Afro-Muslim historic area such as the borders with Somalia and Mombassa, but the majority of the people in Kenya are Christians.
The majority of subsaharan Africa are Christian.
Uganda, Angola, Kenya, Zimbabwe, South Africa, the Congo states, and most of the rest of the continent south of and including Ethopia are Christian, with there being sizeable Muslim minorities, but the majority of the people are Christian, that is fact and Gill Bray's lies can't negate that.
Senator Obama's father's family were of Black African Somali ancestry who migrated into the Kenyan lines at one time. Somalia is nearly completely Muslim, that is why the Obama family practiced (if the term can even be used as most Muslims would recognize it) that faith.
Obama's father was appearantly a Muslim like Lenin was a member of the Russian Orthodox Church or Lev Bronstein [Trotsky] practiced Judaism.
Ole Gill Bray has a comic book religion and now comic book politics -- is his problem genetic or geriatric?
wikipedia comes in handy, huh?
with a large Muslim population
quote:Originally posted by Bill Gray:quote:Originally posted by jamofpearls: Bill, for the love of cheese and crakers, will you please call him Barack Obama, instead of Osama Obama? Its just getting tired. We get it.
Hi Jam,
Welcome to the Forum. You ask me to address Senator Obama with respect. I am sorry; for I have absolutely no respect for him as a Senator and especially as a man to lead our country. As a potential leader of America; the only feelings I can muster for him are distrust, discomfort, and fear. As much as I disliked Hillary; I believe he is 1000 times more dangerous for America than Hillary.
I believe he will sell out America. He is strongly pro-abortion -- so, under his administration we will see millions more babies being sacrificed to Molech, the god of pleasure and sexual fun. He is such a "dove" -- even worse that Billy Bob Clinton -- that he will sell out our military; even more than Clinton. He will take the "welfare state" begun by FDR to new heights of misglory. In my point of view; there is not one single thing positive for this man -- yet, the negatives stack up above the skyscrapers. You see him as Barack Obama; I see him as Osama Obama.
As Louis Armstrong sang, "You like potato and I like potahto, You like tomato and I like tomahto. Potato, potahto, Tomato, tomahto,. . ."
I want to see an America leaning back toward our Christian heritage. Yet, with him as president, we would be going to the "extreme far left" -- toward having Secular Humanism as our national religion. As a matter of fact, I see him as being so extreme far left -- he would have travel miles in the "right" direction to even be considered a "far left" liberal. This man is a danger to America. Sorry, his voting record in his "very short" tenure in the Senate prove this.
He is trying to project the image of JFK. In the 1988 vice-presidential debate Senator Dan Qualye tried to use the JFK name to promote himself. Senator Lloyd Benson responded to Dan Quayle's attempt, "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy."
Well, I would add today, "Mr. Obama, even though you were able to get a couple of Kennedys to support you -- you definitely are not a Jack Kennedy. And, I pray that the rest of America will see through this farce."
Jack Kennedy's family line traced back to Ireland; a Christian nation. Obama's traces back to Kenya, a Muslim nation. Has anyone, besides me, wondered what book Obama would use to take his oath of office if elected. Keep in mind that we now have the precedence of two men in congress using the Qur'an instead of the Bible. Wonder if Obama would have the courage of his convictions to do what is in his heart? Does anyone even have any idea what is in this man's heart -- except the power of the Oval Office? Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing.
As you might have guessed; I will NOT be voting for Osama Obama.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
Thanks for the welcome.
I'm not about to try to argue politics, cause that as i've found is like talking to brick walls on both ends.
I know you don't respect or like him, I'm implying that its just as lame as if I called John McCain, or you Bill Gray; Mayonnaise McWhitebread. It comes off as lame name calling. Although, mine is funnier.
I don't think your Armstrong reference works in this situation, because Barack doesn't rhyme w/ Osama.
But, I'll quote you an inappropriate song for the discussion as well.
Jerry Reed - East Bound and Down "We've got a long way to go, and a short time to get there, I'm east bound, just watch old Bandit run. Ole Smokey's got his ears on, he's hot on your trail, he ain't gonna rest till yer in jail, so you got to dodge and you got to duck him, so put that hammer down, and give em hell."
Also, I thought Ireland was a Pagan country until Catholics came up w/ the idea that Christ was born during their Yule time, and died and came back during their Spring season celebration to lure them into the religion.
I missed the wolf's and sheeps clothing bit earlier, so let me address that.
Someone told me the same thing the other day, and I said, "it would be a little too obvious, and cliche' even if Obama turned out to be this nutbag that was hellbent on destroying America."
But, then again, if this is the case, then i imagine something like the scenario of Lethal Weapon 2, where Riggs and Mertaugh want to take down the bad guy politician, but can't due to Diplomatic Immunity. But Rigs shoots him anyway because he's psychotic like that, then Mertaugh says "i'm too old for this ****" Of course, that was when Mel Gibson was cool, and not Jew-hating insano man he is today.
Someone told me the same thing the other day, and I said, "it would be a little too obvious, and cliche' even if Obama turned out to be this nutbag that was hellbent on destroying America."
But, then again, if this is the case, then i imagine something like the scenario of Lethal Weapon 2, where Riggs and Mertaugh want to take down the bad guy politician, but can't due to Diplomatic Immunity. But Rigs shoots him anyway because he's psychotic like that, then Mertaugh says "i'm too old for this ****" Of course, that was when Mel Gibson was cool, and not Jew-hating insano man he is today.
I don't like either McCain or Obama. I say we throw them all out and start over! LOL 
quote:Originally posted by gracies old man:
here they are-- B.H. Obama's gaffes-
he blames it on a lack of sleep. What would he do when he's prez? and gets that call at 3 am.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBX8sz3tO8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbpWonUzlrc
what is an INHALATOR?
QUITE ELOQUENT!
He was quick to turn to the word BREATHYLYZOR (spelling is wrong I know)
Hi Jam,
You say, "I don't think your (Louis) Armstrong reference works in this situation, because Barack doesn't rhyme w/ Osama."
That is true -- but, I do believe that 99.99999% of folks, including the news media -- call him Obama. Therefore, Osama and Obama fit together like a glove -- and they rhyme. Even more important -- the name Osama Obama speaks volumes.
Then you say, "Also, I thought Ireland was a Pagan country until Catholics came up w/ the idea that Christ was born during their Yule time, and died and came back during their Spring season celebration to lure them into the religion."
No, Ireland was a Catholic country. Then, England's wealthy gentry decided they wanted the Irish farmlands -- and used their money and power to drive out and/or subject the local Irish population. The English were of the Church of England, the Anglican church, and began to impose their Protestant religion upon the Catholic Irish. The combination of this land stealing and the imposition of their religious beliefs upon the Irish Catholics is what brought about the long running fighting in Ireland between the Protestants and the Catholics.
No, not a pagan country -- but, a country torn by strife instigated by greed.
As a side note, I have traced my genealogy back to Ireland: My long ago ancestor, John Earpe, was born in 1580 in Nottinghamshire, England -- and died in 1631 in Barony of Fewes/Armagh County, Northern Ireland. In my father's maternal lineage, I trace back to Charles Fain, born in Ireland in the 1600s. Just a wee bit of information to show where I get my amazing wit.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
You say, "I don't think your (Louis) Armstrong reference works in this situation, because Barack doesn't rhyme w/ Osama."
That is true -- but, I do believe that 99.99999% of folks, including the news media -- call him Obama. Therefore, Osama and Obama fit together like a glove -- and they rhyme. Even more important -- the name Osama Obama speaks volumes.
Then you say, "Also, I thought Ireland was a Pagan country until Catholics came up w/ the idea that Christ was born during their Yule time, and died and came back during their Spring season celebration to lure them into the religion."
No, Ireland was a Catholic country. Then, England's wealthy gentry decided they wanted the Irish farmlands -- and used their money and power to drive out and/or subject the local Irish population. The English were of the Church of England, the Anglican church, and began to impose their Protestant religion upon the Catholic Irish. The combination of this land stealing and the imposition of their religious beliefs upon the Irish Catholics is what brought about the long running fighting in Ireland between the Protestants and the Catholics.
No, not a pagan country -- but, a country torn by strife instigated by greed.
As a side note, I have traced my genealogy back to Ireland: My long ago ancestor, John Earpe, was born in 1580 in Nottinghamshire, England -- and died in 1631 in Barony of Fewes/Armagh County, Northern Ireland. In my father's maternal lineage, I trace back to Charles Fain, born in Ireland in the 1600s. Just a wee bit of information to show where I get my amazing wit.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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Still gotta disagree about Irelands Religious origins....
after 25 seconds of rigorous research (google)
1. Druids: their Functions and Powers
Druidism
No trustworthy information regarding the religion of the pagan Irish comes to us from outside : whatever knowledge of it we possess is derived exclusively from the native literature. There were many gods, but no supreme god, like Zeus or Jupiter among the Greeks and Romans. There was little of prayer, and no settled general form of worship. There were no temples: but there were altars of some kind erected to idols or to the gods of the elements (the sun, fire, water, &c.), which must have been in the open air. The religion of the pagan Irish is commonly designated as Druidism: and in the oldest Irish traditions the druids figure conspicuously.
All the early colonists had their druids, who are mentioned as holding high rank among kings and chiefs. There were druids also in Gaul and Britain; but the Gaels of Ireland and Scotland were separated and isolated for many centuries from the Celtic races of Gaul; and thus their religious system, like their language, naturally diverged, so that the druidism of Ireland, as pictured forth in the native record differed in many respects from that of Gaul.
In pagan times the druids were the exclusive possessors of whatever learning was then known. They combined in themselves all the learned professions: they were not only druids, but judges prophets, historians, poets, and even physicians, There were druids in every part of Ireland, but, as we might expect, Tara, the residence of the over-kings of Ireland, was, as we are told in the Life of St. Patrick, "the chief seat of the idolatry and druidism of Erin." The druids had the reputation of being great magicians; and in this character they figure more frequently and conspicuously than in any other. In some of the old historical romances we find the issues of battles sometimes determined not so much by the valour of the combatants as by the magical powers of the druids attached to the armies.
Perhaps the most dreaded of all the necromantic powers attributed to them was that of producing madness. In the pagan ages, and down far into Christian times, madness was believed to be often brought on by malignant magical agency, usually the work of some druid. For this purpose the druid prepared a "madman's wisp," that is, a little wisp of straw or grass, into which he pronounced some horrible incantations, and, watching his opportunity, flung it into the face of his victim, who at once became insane or idiotic.
Madness was often produced by the rage of battle. For, during a bloody battle, it sometimes happened that an excitable combatant ran mad with fury and horror: and occurrences of this kind are recorded in the romantic accounts of nearly all the great battles fought in Ireland. There was a most curious belief - a belief that still lingers in some parts of the country - that during the paroxysm a madman's body became as light as air, so that as he ran distractedly, he scarcely touched the ground, or he rose into the air, still speeding on with a sort of fluttering motion.
There is a valley in Kerry called Glannagalt, 'the glen of the galts or lunatics': and it is believed that all lunatics, if left to themselves, would find their way to it, no matter from what part of Ireland. When they have lived in its solitude for a time, drinking of the water of Tobernagalt ('the lunatics' well'), and eating of the cresses that grow along the little stream, the poor wanderers get restored to sanity. At the entrance to Lough Foyle, on the strand near Inishowen Head in Donegal, there is a well called Stroove Bran, which was thought to possess the same virtue as Tobernagalt, and to which all the deranged people in the surrounding district were wont to resort.
It was believed that the druids could pronounce a malign incantation, not only on an individual, but on a whole army, so as to produce a withering or enervating effect on the men; and they were sometimes employed to maledict a hostile army, as Balaam was employed by Balak. They could give a drink of forgetfulness, so as to efface the memory of any particular transaction. They were the intermediaries with the fairies, and with the invisible world in general, which - as they asserted - they could influence for good or evil; and they could protect people from the malice of evil-disposed spirits of every kind ; which explains much of their influence with the people They could-as the legends tell -bring on snowstorms, or showers of fire and blood, and cover the land with blinding clouds and mists.
And i'm willing to bet its 99.9999999999% of fox news and other conservative media. Because, i don't pay attention to any of those, this is one of the only times I've heard it.
I've traced part of mine to a gang who would burn, and pillage towns...Irish as well. Just a bit of information where i get my destructive whirlwind gale force of wit.
Bill, I think I'm gonna like being the John Stewart to your Bill O'Riley.
So, here's a pic of Big Foot w/ tank tracks.
after 25 seconds of rigorous research (google)
1. Druids: their Functions and Powers
Druidism
No trustworthy information regarding the religion of the pagan Irish comes to us from outside : whatever knowledge of it we possess is derived exclusively from the native literature. There were many gods, but no supreme god, like Zeus or Jupiter among the Greeks and Romans. There was little of prayer, and no settled general form of worship. There were no temples: but there were altars of some kind erected to idols or to the gods of the elements (the sun, fire, water, &c.), which must have been in the open air. The religion of the pagan Irish is commonly designated as Druidism: and in the oldest Irish traditions the druids figure conspicuously.
All the early colonists had their druids, who are mentioned as holding high rank among kings and chiefs. There were druids also in Gaul and Britain; but the Gaels of Ireland and Scotland were separated and isolated for many centuries from the Celtic races of Gaul; and thus their religious system, like their language, naturally diverged, so that the druidism of Ireland, as pictured forth in the native record differed in many respects from that of Gaul.
In pagan times the druids were the exclusive possessors of whatever learning was then known. They combined in themselves all the learned professions: they were not only druids, but judges prophets, historians, poets, and even physicians, There were druids in every part of Ireland, but, as we might expect, Tara, the residence of the over-kings of Ireland, was, as we are told in the Life of St. Patrick, "the chief seat of the idolatry and druidism of Erin." The druids had the reputation of being great magicians; and in this character they figure more frequently and conspicuously than in any other. In some of the old historical romances we find the issues of battles sometimes determined not so much by the valour of the combatants as by the magical powers of the druids attached to the armies.
Perhaps the most dreaded of all the necromantic powers attributed to them was that of producing madness. In the pagan ages, and down far into Christian times, madness was believed to be often brought on by malignant magical agency, usually the work of some druid. For this purpose the druid prepared a "madman's wisp," that is, a little wisp of straw or grass, into which he pronounced some horrible incantations, and, watching his opportunity, flung it into the face of his victim, who at once became insane or idiotic.
Madness was often produced by the rage of battle. For, during a bloody battle, it sometimes happened that an excitable combatant ran mad with fury and horror: and occurrences of this kind are recorded in the romantic accounts of nearly all the great battles fought in Ireland. There was a most curious belief - a belief that still lingers in some parts of the country - that during the paroxysm a madman's body became as light as air, so that as he ran distractedly, he scarcely touched the ground, or he rose into the air, still speeding on with a sort of fluttering motion.
There is a valley in Kerry called Glannagalt, 'the glen of the galts or lunatics': and it is believed that all lunatics, if left to themselves, would find their way to it, no matter from what part of Ireland. When they have lived in its solitude for a time, drinking of the water of Tobernagalt ('the lunatics' well'), and eating of the cresses that grow along the little stream, the poor wanderers get restored to sanity. At the entrance to Lough Foyle, on the strand near Inishowen Head in Donegal, there is a well called Stroove Bran, which was thought to possess the same virtue as Tobernagalt, and to which all the deranged people in the surrounding district were wont to resort.
It was believed that the druids could pronounce a malign incantation, not only on an individual, but on a whole army, so as to produce a withering or enervating effect on the men; and they were sometimes employed to maledict a hostile army, as Balaam was employed by Balak. They could give a drink of forgetfulness, so as to efface the memory of any particular transaction. They were the intermediaries with the fairies, and with the invisible world in general, which - as they asserted - they could influence for good or evil; and they could protect people from the malice of evil-disposed spirits of every kind ; which explains much of their influence with the people They could-as the legends tell -bring on snowstorms, or showers of fire and blood, and cover the land with blinding clouds and mists.
And i'm willing to bet its 99.9999999999% of fox news and other conservative media. Because, i don't pay attention to any of those, this is one of the only times I've heard it.
I've traced part of mine to a gang who would burn, and pillage towns...Irish as well. Just a bit of information where i get my destructive whirlwind gale force of wit.
Bill, I think I'm gonna like being the John Stewart to your Bill O'Riley.
So, here's a pic of Big Foot w/ tank tracks.
quote:I've traced part of mine to a gang who would burn, and pillage towns...Irish as well. Just a bit of information where i get my destructive whirlwind gale force of wit.
Ah, so you're descended from an old line of leftists!
quote:Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Jam,
Welcome to the Forum. You ask me to address Senator Obama with respect. I am sorry; for I have absolutely no respect for him as a Senator and especially as a man to lead our country. As a potential leader of America; the only feelings I can muster for him are distrust, discomfort, and fear. As much as I disliked Hillary; I believe he is 1000 times more dangerous for America than Hillary.
I believe he will sell out America. He is strongly pro-abortion -- so, under his administration we will see millions more babies being sacrificed to Molech, the god of pleasure and sexual fun. He is such a "dove" -- even worse that Billy Bob Clinton -- that he will sell out our military; even more than Clinton. He will take the "welfare state" begun by FDR to new heights of misglory. In my point of view; there is not one single thing positive for this man -- yet, the negatives stack up above the skyscrapers. You see him as Barack Obama; I see him as Osama Obama.
As Louis Armstrong sang, "You like potato and I like potahto, You like tomato and I like tomahto. Potato, potahto, Tomato, tomahto,. . ."
I want to see an America leaning back toward our Christian heritage. Yet, with him as president, we would be going to the "extreme far left" -- toward having Secular Humanism as our national religion. As a matter of fact, I see him as being so extreme far left -- he would have travel miles in the "right" direction to even be considered a "far left" liberal. This man is a danger to America. Sorry, his voting record in his "very short" tenure in the Senate prove this.
He is trying to project the image of JFK. In the 1988 vice-presidential debate Senator Dan Qualye tried to use the JFK name to promote himself. Senator Lloyd Benson responded to Dan Quayle's attempt, "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy."
Well, I would add today, "Mr. Obama, even though you were able to get a couple of Kennedys to support you -- you definitely are not a Jack Kennedy. And, I pray that the rest of America will see through this farce."
Jack Kennedy's family line traced back to Ireland; a Christian nation. Obama's traces back to Kenya, a Muslim nation. Has anyone, besides me, wondered what book Obama would use to take his oath of office if elected. Keep in mind that we now have the precedence of two men in congress using the Qur'an instead of the Bible. Wonder if Obama would have the courage of his convictions to do what is in his heart? Does anyone even have any idea what is in this man's heart -- except the power of the Oval Office? Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing.
As you might have guessed; I will NOT be voting for Osama Obama.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
Wait a minute... so you're saying that due to Obama's ancestry that he'll be doomed to repeat this? I don't see the issue with the fact that he's from another country, that he was raised under a certain religion. I'm part German, and I'm a big disappointed in way my ancestors behaved and how they treated the Jewish community and others. I am in no way affiliated with the Nazi Party, even though my blood runs with German colors. I take great pride in my heritage, just not all the behavior that has happened in the past, be it German, English or Dutch.
We could argue religion all day, bottom line is, Obama is not a practicing Muslim, he's Baptist. I also feel is hard to judge him by the things his Baptist preacher has said in the past. Bill do you always agree with the people that stand on the stage/podium at your church.
True we are all judged by the company that we keep, but it's a little unfair to judge us by our ancestors, and family. I know plenty of people that are ashamed of family behavior, and make themselves better because of it.
I think that it's a good thing that Obama can have a background in this stuff, did it ever occur to you that he might use his knowledge of the Muslim faith for the power of good vs. evil. That he may have a little more of an idea of what goes through Muslim terrorits' minds?
I still haven't decided which person I will vote for, however I won't base all my choices on something as lame as this.
And for the record, as far as Obama's stand on abortion. This may not be such an issue in the United States, if right wing people would learn to help teach young adults (who will grow into older adults) the proper way to protect themselves, to help with the issues of unwanted pregnancy. To believe the entire US is going to practice abstinence is just plain gullible.
For the record, I've never had an abortion - I don't know what choice I would make being put in that situation, which I've never been in with an unexpected pregnancy (I've never been pregnant). However, being put in that position, I would want a safe and legal choice. Outlawing abortion isn't going to stop it, have we learned nothing from our past? It will only create more problems.
That being said - I'm all for any president that will keep the power for women to choose what happens to their bodies... in the women's hands!
I still believe politics is no place for religion either and people that base all their choices just on that, worry me.
quote:Originally posted by Howard Roark:quote:I've traced part of mine to a gang who would burn, and pillage towns...Irish as well. Just a bit of information where i get my destructive whirlwind gale force of wit.
Ah, so you're descended from an old line of leftists!
How did you know?! Howard J. Leftist was my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great
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grandfather.
He would burn down towns for ****s and giggles. Why, he was known to punch mountains right in the face.
When he ordered a pizza, he got everything on it...and i mean EVERYTHING.
p.s. and for the record. I'm an independent, who doesn't lean left, or right. I feel there are many valuable things on each side of the political race, I just wish for once we could group all the GOOD things together in one person... I have yet to see that happen.
quote:Originally posted by jamofpearls:quote:Originally posted by Howard Roark:quote:I've traced part of mine to a gang who would burn, and pillage towns...Irish as well. Just a bit of information where i get my destructive whirlwind gale force of wit.
Ah, so you're descended from an old line of leftists!
How did you know?! Howard J. Leftist was my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great
grandfather.
He would burn down towns for ****s and giggles. Why, he was known to punch mountains right in the face.
When he ordered a pizza, he got everything on it...and i mean EVERYTHING.
You almost made me snarf my coffee all over the monitor. lol.
Jam,
I love "Mayonnaise McWhitebread" or whatever it was you said. That's funny. It's kind of like that episode of Seinfeld where Elaine had to sit in between Puddy and "Vegetable Lasagna" on the way home from a trip to Europe.
I love "Mayonnaise McWhitebread" or whatever it was you said. That's funny. It's kind of like that episode of Seinfeld where Elaine had to sit in between Puddy and "Vegetable Lasagna" on the way home from a trip to Europe.
quote:Originally posted by Mrs. Carl Brutananadilewski:
Jam,
I love "Mayonnaise McWhitebread" or whatever it was you said. That's funny. It's kind of like that episode of Seinfeld where Elaine had to sit in between Puddy and "Vegetable Lasagna" on the way home from a trip to Europe.
I tried to find a pic from that scene...but you wouldn't believe what i found image searching for Puddy Vegetable Lasagna.