The Pentagon Is Refusing Lawful Orders From the Commander-In-Chief

The Pentagon Is Refusing Lawful Orders From the Commander-In-Chief

There is a clear conduit between the Carlyle Group and the Pentagon. They are both globalist controlled. The Pentagon is refusing lawful orders from the Commander-In-Chief. Here are the details of this disturbing story. [...]

https://www.thecommonsenseshow...-commander-in-chief/

 

 

The stupidity of liberals, ability to ignore their ignorance

and to Destroy what gives them freedom

 If liberals can't cheat, they can't win

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I believe the arguments against using the Military along the border to assist Homeland Security officers may be valid and surely deserve consideration depending on their reasoning for their objections.  The whole thing, I believe, centers around the Posse Comitatus act and interpretation of whether Trump or any military officer who obeys Trump's order, is in violation of that law/act.

There are those that object to Trump and everything or anything he does or decides to do but in this case, using the military for such a cause could be construed as a violation of the act.  That is an answer that Courts will have to decide but is a danger that Trump could be considered as overstepping his authority and misusing the military depending on what orders he is issuing to them.  

The real question is whether or not those coming are a National Threat or whether or not this is just a police action to enforce existing laws.  If an invasion and a National Threat then President Trump may have cause to use the Military but given the numbers and cause expressed by the bulk of the people in the group the Military may have good reason to reject such a command under the posse comitatus act.  I have fully supported Trump but in this case he needs to be very cautious and careful not to violate the act for he doesn't need to give his political enemies any credible charges to hold against him.  I do believe in this case, given the people involved, Trump needs to exercise restraint and caution because he could put himself in violations of the act.  

I do realize Wikipedia is not often totally accurate and can be amended by almost anyone but still the link above gives a pretty clear picture of why I think Trump should be cautious and why or how many Military officers or people might honestly refuse to obey Trump's order if their interpretation is that it is a violation of the act or would be.  

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As I indicated if it deals with National Security I agree but if it deals with just an illegal action then that's another matter.  The real question is does this caravan or group of people constitute a National Security threat and I suppose that could be defined either way depending.  Thankfully that's not for me to decide.

national security?  they carry the flag of country they left, they are a massive group that broke thru fence to get into Mexico.  We are taking in to many immigrants (both legal and illegal).  Welfare, etc. keeps growing plus the number of lower income and education is getting larger.  Question is do you buy into the push for global government?  We were warned of everything going on back in the 1990s.

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national security?  they carry the flag of country they left, they are a massive group that broke thru fence to get into Mexico.  We are taking in to many immigrants (both legal and illegal).  Welfare, etc. keeps growing plus the number of lower income and education is getting larger.  Question is do you buy into the push for global government?  We were warned of everything going on back in the 1990s.

Not at all, I am totally against Global Government! I am also very pro-Trump and support his efforts.  I am just saying that IF the group constitutes a national threat then the President has every right to use the Military but IF it does not meet the criteria to be considered a national threat then the Military is not to be used as a National Police Department to enforce laws that are on the books.  Thankfully though I'm not one to make those decisions.  The only reason I stated what I did was I was just saying that it's possible that is why some Military officers may decline to enforce the border laws and they were thinking of the posse comitatus act.  Then maybe they are just good Democrats and want to oppose anything that Trump does, who knows?

Ultimately a court would make that decision and hopefully one that was not politically inclined if such is possible to find these days.  I have no doubt that some of those included in the group headed toward our border have nefarious inclinations and could pose a national threat but I also believe some are there with hopes to economically improve their lot in life but they should and I believe have to do it legally through the acceptable paths provided by our laws.  If they don't then those charged with enforcing those laws.  

While I do believe there are some people hiding in the overall group that would constitute a National Threat and that they have terroristic inclinations I believe that there are those that are funding this operation and supplying funds for the purpose of causing conflicts and upheaval and those should be identified, found, and prosecuted for their efforts.  

Immigration, whether legal or illegal, will not usher in a global government. Fear, cheerleading, and egos will.  Divide and conquer. GBRK is right about the Posse Comitatus Act.  As long as the military refuses unlawful acts by the president, democracy will survive.  The day the military does the bidding of a president without question is the day we all lose.  It might still take a few decades but the seeds are planted. We already live in a global economy so the infrastructure is already in place.  

The gop believes in small, limited government.  That only gives power to the lobbyists, wealthy people, and corporations.  Which will open the door to oligarchy and authoritarianism. Democracy and diversity are keeping "global government" in check.  As long as people have the ability to fight for their rights; elections are free, fair and voting is easy; the press remains free and is not labeled as the "enemy of the people"; and people can manage to stop being scared of everyone that's different we will be alright.  

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