The Stupid Tax

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:
I vote for real casinos in alabama,,,not just electronic bingo and also for a state lottery for alabama.....lets make some money for this great state and for the education of our children!!

Dumbest post I've ever seen on here.

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:
I vote for real casinos in alabama,,,not just electronic bingo and also for a state lottery for alabama.....lets make some money for this great state and for the education of our children!!

I agree, would love to have some around here and not have to drive to other states to play. And plus it would get all this bingo crap off the news.

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Originally posted by Jugflier:

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:
I vote for real casinos in alabama,,,not just electronic bingo and also for a state lottery for alabama.....lets make some money for this great state and for the education of our children!!

Dumbest post I've ever seen on here.

You must not read the forums much. LOL. I have seen some that are just downright ignorant. 0neHotMomm just voiced her opinion. Nothing dumb about that. And it could do no harm to the education system, seeing how bad off it is already.

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seeing how bad off it is already.

That my friend is a logical argument.

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Originally posted by Chuck Norris:
As printed in today's TD:

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Faced with a drop in gambling revenue, states are adding games, considering new casinos and increasing lottery options - anything to keep their cut of the profits rolling in.

States are adamant that they don't want to take advantage of anyone, but with budgets in free-fall and tax increases a losing hand politically, lawmakers acknowledge they are dependent on gambling dollars.

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The idea of luring people to the craps tables when they are being battered by the recession is an awkward one for state governments - a point that has been raised by people who deal with the collateral damage from gambling.

The new blitz "makes gambling more enticing, makes people more curious," said Doug Billingsley, whose treatment center provides counseling for problem gamblers in Iowa.

In many states, the funds for helping problem gamblers have been cut sharply because of the budget problems.

Why should the government spend taxpayers' money to prevent problem gamblers from generating tax revenue? Anyone see a problem with this?

The government is the one that passed the law for legalized gambling. It's not just the gamblers that get addicted to gambling, it's also the government. The ones claiming it will be great for our childrens education need to check with the states that already have gambling. It's not what it's advertised to be.

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Originally posted by ferrellj:
The ones claiming it will be great for our childrens education need to check with the states that already have gambling. It's not what it's advertised to be.

Gee, I dunno.. The state of Connecticut, where I moved here from has a lottery in many forms and casinos and such and it has some of the best schools in the country. Kids in Connecticut actually learn about places *OUTSIDE* the state lines

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Originally posted by Road Puppy:
Gee, I dunno.. The state of Connecticut, where I moved here from has a lottery in many forms and casinos and such and it has some of the best schools in the country. Kids in Connecticut actually learn about places *OUTSIDE* the state lines

Why did you move here?

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:

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Originally posted by Jugflier:

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:
I vote for real casinos in alabama,,,not just electronic bingo and also for a state lottery for alabama.....lets make some money for this great state and for the education of our children!!

Dumbest post I've ever seen on here.

my post is not dumb thank you very much! i think we should quit fighting the battle over legalized gambling (which these battles are costly for alabama) and just start looking for ways to generate money for the state. which a lottery and casinows would easily do. seriously people drive miles to other states to spend money there on their lotteries!! i mean come on we have one of the lowest unemployment compensations and our education system is on a downward spiral with schools closing and teachers being laid off. i just think all the fighting over it is silly. i feel it would be good for alabama overall.

Look lady,
If want to gamble that's fine, just leave my kids out of it. I don't want idiots justifying their behavior at the expense of my children and others.
For the record, you are probably a teacher and you just want more money. how bout we get rid of tenure and start firing all the laim brained teachers and employ the good ones who can't get a job for the bad ones standing in the way.
That would do more to cure our education ills than any of your blood gambling money.

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Originally posted by Jon:

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:
i mean come on we have one of the lowest unemployment compensations and our education system is on a downward spiral with schools closing and teachers being laid off.

We also have some of the highest paid Supreme Court justices for a state in the country. They also like to uphold laws that legislate morality. So sad, the government wants to do the churches job and the churches want to do the governments.

Do you think murder is a moral issue? How about stealing? Rape? Selling or taking drugs?

Can you tell me one law on the books that does not have a moral implication?

You got your posts mixed up.

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:

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Originally posted by Jugflier:

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:

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Originally posted by Jugflier:

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:
I vote for real casinos in alabama,,,not just electronic bingo and also for a state lottery for alabama.....lets make some money for this great state and for the education of our children!!

Dumbest post I've ever seen on here.

my post is not dumb thank you very much! i think we should quit fighting the battle over legalized gambling (which these battles are costly for alabama) and just start looking for ways to generate money for the state. which a lottery and casinows would easily do. seriously people drive miles to other states to spend money there on their lotteries!! i mean come on we have one of the lowest unemployment compensations and our education system is on a downward spiral with schools closing and teachers being laid off. i just think all the fighting over it is silly. i feel it would be good for alabama overall.

Look lady,
If want to gamble that's fine, just leave my kids out of it. I don't want idiots justifying their behavior at the expense of my children and others.
For the record, you are probably a teacher and you just want more money. how bout we get rid of tenure and start firing all the laim brained teachers and employ the good ones who can't get a job for the bad ones standing in the way.
That would do more to cure our education ills than any of your blood gambling money.

you are ignorant jugflier. NO I AM NOT A TEACHER. I am a PROUD member of a union of a skilled trade. adults playing the lottery and going to casinos does not affect your children directly other than making money to better fund their education!!!

"The children, the children" is the cry of the scoundrel.

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:
For the record, you are probably a teacher and you just want more money. how bout we get rid of tenure and start firing all the laim brained teachers and employ the good ones who can't get a job for the bad ones standing in the way.
That would do more to cure our education ills than any of your blood gambling money.


and further....how does doing away with tenure and firing bad teachers to hire good ones create funds for schools?

Alabama's schools are already well funded. How about we get something for the money we spend already with some accountability. More money into a broken system is like giving a crack addict more money to fix his problems.

I am done with this arguement....whatever.

I'll tell you what to do. You get one legitimate economist who will tell you that it's good governmental and monetary policy to use gambling to finance legitimate government functions.
Not one paid by the gambling industry.

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:
grr...no alabama schools are not well funded! are you living in a bubble? i bet your kids go to a private school. probablly with a religious environment. which that is great. i went to one too. but not all people can afford the tuition these days. public schools are awful now. kids are having to pay to try out for cheerleader!!?? what the crap is up with that? teachers are losing jobs. schools are being closed and merged. they are feeding our kids crap of nothing at school. you should really look deeper into it.

OK SO NOW I AM DONE.

My kids go to public schools in Colbert Co. I know of the situations well, I deal with the lame brained teachers who cannot be fired.

I campaigned heavily to change the superintendent, but the people of this county in their wisdom re-elected him.

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Who does it hurt other than the gambler that loses money? I also don't think tax dollars, unless they come from gambling to begin with, should be used to help gambling addictions.

Jon,
From your anti-church rant i can tell you have no role in picking up the pieces from this sort of thing.
Before posting your ignorances maybe you should get out and talk to some pastors and community leaders who are swamped with requests for money to pay electric bills, buy food for kids, ect, from those who are not hurting anyone by their gambling.

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:
I will add this Georgia, Florida, South Carolina and Tennessee all states with a lottery have excellent education systems!! Wonder where the funding comes from???hmm???

Here you go.

http://www.usnews.com/articles...tate-statistics.html

Florida #11

Georgia #20

South Carolina #33

Tennessee # 36

Mississippi #45

So where's Alabama? #27

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It's not the governments job to legislate morality, its the churches to teach from the Word. It's the chuches job to fund charitable causes, not the government's

We legislate morality everyday.

As for being a Christian, we are called to be "Our Brothers Keeper". Once you open these flood gates, the maimed and destroyed lives that follow will be on your neck.

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:

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Originally posted by Jugflier:

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:
I vote for real casinos in alabama,,,not just electronic bingo and also for a state lottery for alabama.....lets make some money for this great state and for the education of our children!!

Dumbest post I've ever seen on here.

my post is not dumb thank you very much! i think we should quit fighting the battle over legalized gambling (which these battles are costly for alabama) and just start looking for ways to generate money for the state. which a lottery and casinows would easily do. seriously people drive miles to other states to spend money there on their lotteries!! i mean come on we have one of the lowest unemployment compensations and our education system is on a downward spiral with schools closing and teachers being laid off. i just think all the fighting over it is silly. i feel it would be good for alabama overall.

I got to agree with Hot Mama here. It is absurd that all our adjacent states have gambling in some form, and Alabama dollars are pouring into their coffers. Tenn and Ga lotteries are specifically for education I believe, but Miss Casino money goes to the general fund, and for highways (if you are on a 2 lane highway in Miss, drive carefully, there is construction ahead).
The people of Alabama have shown several times they don't give a damm about our kids education- failure to pass the lottery specifically targeted to education, and most lately here, and I assume around the entire state , the people were going nuts not wanting nor allowing our president to encourage kids to stay in school and get a good education.
To me , that about says it all, they want their kids to grow up to be as stupid as they are,.

Yes, the Tennessee lottery raises money for education.

Ironic. Consider the odds (go to tnlottery.com and click on “Play Responsibly”; HA!).

1:175,711,536

Any idea of how big this number is? Line up playing cards, end to end, along one of the longest coast-to-coast paths I could plug into Google maps: Miami to Seattle. Now, do that two more times. Three cards covering every inch of the route.

Pick one. Wrong one? You lose. Would you buy 10 chances? 100? You would have to spend $1.7 million to have a 1% chance of winning. If any casino had a game with odds like that, it would be shut down. But governments can get away with it because enough people are too stupid to do the math. If our high schools were doing a good job, no one in this state would be dumb enough to play this lottery.

In Texas (believe me, I know) they even sell tickets to the poor, stupid lotto players after 95% of the prizes have already been claimed. I’m sure it would never be reported, but I bet some have bought tickets with absolutely no chance of winning. Is that ethical? The state selling tickets to citizens who have no chance of winning?

The lottery is a tax on stupid people.

Yes, Tennessees lottery supposedly pays for education, but with all that the state gets from gambling they are trying to tax the donuts and coffe that motels give guest.

forums are for people to express their personal opinions. so i think a person who calls someone dumb or stupid for their way of thinking is very rude!!

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If want to gamble that's fine, just leave my kids out of it. I don't want idiots justifying their behavior at the expense of my children and others.

I find myself in agreement with this. Why will no one defend gambling for the right reasons? Why do they have to try and polish it up as being "good for the state," or "good for the children?" Why can't we just acknowledge that the government should not be able to prevent people from wagering their own money, nor should they be able to punish those who facilitate such wagers? I'm fully in support of legalized gambling, but not so some politicians can grow their tax base. They just shouldn't have the right to stop people from gambling.

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Originally posted by Jugflier:

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:

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Originally posted by Jugflier:

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:
I vote for real casinos in alabama,,,not just electronic bingo and also for a state lottery for alabama.....lets make some money for this great state and for the education of our children!!

Dumbest post I've ever seen on here.

my post is not dumb thank you very much! i think we should quit fighting the battle over legalized gambling (which these battles are costly for alabama) and just start looking for ways to generate money for the state. which a lottery and casinows would easily do. seriously people drive miles to other states to spend money there on their lotteries!! i mean come on we have one of the lowest unemployment compensations and our education system is on a downward spiral with schools closing and teachers being laid off. i just think all the fighting over it is silly. i feel it would be good for alabama overall.

Look lady,
If want to gamble that's fine, just leave my kids out of it. I don't want idiots justifying their behavior at the expense of my children and others.
For the record, you are probably a teacher and you just want more money. how bout we get rid of tenure and start firing all the laim brained teachers and employ the good ones who can't get a job for the bad ones standing in the way.
That would do more to cure our education ills than any of your blood gambling money.

FYI -- The term is "lame-brained," hyphenated because it is two words used as a singular adjective. I am a teacher and am well satisfied with my pay. If fools are going to waste their money on gambling, why not throw it to our state, whether it's on schools or roads or whatever. If people have the desire to gamble, they will do so. Why send their money out of state? I would have thought that the 18th amendment would have tought us that morality cannot be legislated.

blah blah blah.

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Originally posted by Jugflier:

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Originally posted by 0neHotMomm@:
I will add this Georgia, Florida, South Carolina and Tennessee all states with a lottery have excellent education systems!! Wonder where the funding comes from???hmm???

Here you go.



http://www.usnews.com/articles...tate-statistics.html

Florida #11

Georgia #20

South Carolina #33

Tennessee # 36

Mississippi #45

So where's Alabama? #27

I don't put any stock in school rankings from USN&WR. There has been controversy for years over their law school rankings. I suspect the high school rankings are similarly skewed.

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Originally posted by falcon1234:
FYI -- The term is "lame-brained," hyphenated because it is two words used as a singular adjective. I am a teacher and am well satisfied with my pay. If fools are going to waste their money on gambling, why not throw it to our state, whether it's on schools or roads or whatever. If people have the desire to gamble, they will do so. Why send their money out of state? I would have thought that the 18th amendment would have tought us that morality cannot be legislated.

A pedant who can't spell "taught". Nice. What do they say about those who live in glass houses?

So, morality cannot be legislated? Does that apply to the 13th amendment which abolishes slavery? Are you for the repeal of that amendment? I'm not. I believe we can and should legislate morality. It's just a question of whose morality. Intelligent adults will disagree, but meaningless platitudes are worthless.