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George Floyd who died after an officer arresting him pressed his knee  onto his neck died by homicide according to the results of two autopsies released  on monday. Dr. Allecia Wilson  one of the pathologists who conducted  the independent  autopsy said monday that Floyd died as a result of mechanical asphyxiation.  The manner of his death was ruled homicide.

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What I have heard since, and I wish I had the source to provide, is that in his system was inordinate high levels of Fentanyl, a drug which depresses breathing and that he was actually claiming that he was having difficulty breathing from within the police car.  Even if this is factual it still doesn't justify the officer placing his knee/leg on the man's neck until he was lifeless however it may be some indication that there were other factors at play in leading to his ultimate death. 

Sadly though any mention of anything other than direct intended murder on the part of the officer will never be tolerated or accepted. There is a definite narrative at play today in the nation's major news/propaganda networks and that is white Police on Black actions, especially those leading to death.  A direct indication that there is deliberate bias in reporting is the total omission of the murder of a white child, five years old, by execution-style murder by a black man in the Carolinas.  IF this had been a black child that was summarily executed by a white man it would have made Breaking News across the nation but as it is it never saw the light of day in reporting except mention on the Fox News Network.  

I'm not saying that there aren't activities and things out there happening that are unjust and in need of exposure but as it is the News Media along with their agenda is ginning up and exacerbating many of the events that are happening.  

Take for instance the most recent event in Kenosha, Wisc where the man was shot 7 times in the back.  It shouldn't have gotten to that in the first place for the man obviously didn't have any fear or respect of law enforcement possibly encouraged by the recent reporting and protest of Police in other locations of the country.  In this case, maybe it wasn't right to have the man shot 7 times in the back but we weren't there and didn't know what the officer was seeing.  Also, people weren't told, by the video, that the man had already been tasered and didn't respond to it and didn't mention that the officers had attempted to get him to cooperate and stop and set down.  He continued to fight with them and disobey orders given to him then when he reached into the car the officer surely took decisive action that ended in his being shot.  

If he had cooperated at first and not fought with the officers I doubt he would have been shot but in today's world, there is no blame or no partial credit given to the man's disobedience of law enforcement.  Whether it was a justified shooting or not will be borne out, possibly, in the investigations to come but if the man himself had cooperated with Police it most likely would have never got to that point rather than have him continue to fight with the officers and create a situation where an officer had to make a fateful decision as to how to handle the situation.  Having been tasered and that having no effect on him before only left the officer with the choice of discharging his service weapon and now the question is though why seven times.

The fact that it was in the back does sound bad but given that the man was already in the car and the officer didn't know if he was grabbing a weapon and turning to fire meant that the only option was either to take the chance that he would turn and fire into the officer or to take action and stop the man by shooting him from the only position offered to him which was in the back.  Again what seems excessive is the number of rounds discharged by the officer and that may be the one condemning thing but again I doubt it would have gotten to that if the man had just obeyed the officer's commands in the first place and not fought with them.

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We do know what happened in Kenosha Wisc.  it was clearly caught on tape.  The man that was shot was surrounded by several officers while he was walking to his van. Any one of them could have physically stopped him but didn't instead they shot him 7 times in the back in front of his kids  There is no way in hell you can justify that.   And 2 separate independent autopsies showed that George Floyd died because of  asphyxiation, with no mention  of Fentanyl  quit believing fake Fox so called news lies.

@David Rau posted:

We do know what happened in Kenosha Wisc.  it was clearly caught on tape.  The man that was shot was surrounded by several officers while he was walking to his van. Any one of them could have physically stopped him but didn't instead they shot him 7 times in the back in front of his kids  There is no way in hell you can justify that.   And 2 separate independent autopsies showed that George Floyd died because of  asphyxiation, with no mention  of Fentanyl  quit believing fake Fox so called news lies.

You might want to do a little research before you assume Fox News is the only source or that they are reporting fake news or lying about it.  Could be that the other sources that you like to use don't report things for a reason and leave you in the dark making statements like you just did.  It took me little time to google up a few other sources, other than FOX to verify that not only did he have Fentanyl but also meth in his system.   I'm not trying to justify anything, the officer shouldn't have done what he did with or without Floyd having those drugs in his body andit was the OFFICER(s) that were responsible for Floyd's death.

Source 1) Washington Examiner <- click on the link to bring up the article

Source 2) Newsweek  <- Click to see the article

Source 3) TMZ <-- Click to see/read the article

Source 4) Science Times <- Click to read the article

Several sources, other than the Mainstream media outlets who seem to want to omit, or conceal this all together, no reporting that there was evidence of Fentanyl and Meth in Floyd's body. Does it change things?  NO!  It shouldn't have happened that the officer placed his leg/knee on the man's neck but it is information that should be made available and not concealed as if it didn't happen at all.  The officer should be charged and appears guilty but it is fair to know all the details of the incident and revealing them doesn't mean I'm trying to justify anything. The fact that it's not being reported by most of the media should tell you a lot also.  Yes FOX News was one that reported it and the others should have too but they have an agenda and if the information doesn't meet that agenda then it gets omitted.  People claim Fox is biased and boast of it as if everyone else is not but that's not the case.  Most of the time FOX News, not commentary, presents both sides of an issue.  Yes their commentators, not reporters, are biased and lean to the right (Tucker Carlson, Hannity, Ingram, etc but they don't deny it and try and conceal it unlike MSNBC, CNN, and the others who try to pass off their commentators as reporters.   Floyd died as a result of the officer's actions, not the drugs, but concealing that he had those drugs in his body does tend to make you wonder about the credibility of those sources that don't report it, for one reason or another.  So YOUR assertion that it was FAKE FOX News lies is simply wrong and if you're getting your news from outlets that shy from reporting it should make you wonder if you are being kept from this what other things or stories are they keeping from you?   

Regarding the Kenosha incident the video, the whole video does show him not responding to officers around him and it was one officer that shot him not all of them and even if he had reason to shoot the man 7 times in the back does seem excessive and warrants investigation but an impartial investigation, not an immediate verdict from people that weren't there or on the scene.  It's also possible that the officer didn't know the kids were in the car either, or maybe he did because the windows were very dark, or appeared to be so it's possible that they didn't know the kids were there, I don't know that but I do know that it said he was tasered and didn't submit to their commands to calm down and he did fight with them and he didn't comply with their request and that resulted with him going around his car and going into the vehicle where the officer couldn't see him or what he was reaching for.  I'm not trying to justify the shooting because frankly I don't know what actually happened and neither does anyone else that wasn't there, at that time. 

Yes, there is video but it doesn't tell the whole story either.   The video doesn't tell what was in the mind of the victim/perp or the officer either or to what degrees the victim/perp fought the police.  I'd be wrong to try and justify it based solely upon the video or information that's being put out just as you would be to condemn the officer totally.  Back, way back, to George Zimmerman and the NBC reporting about his 911 call regarding Trevon Martin it was doctored, by NBC, to make it appear that Zimmerman was racist.  Sometimes the public doesn't get the whole story at first.  My point about bringing up the Kenosha incident was just to say that it seems that the person didn't respect or fear the police and did not comply with their orders/commands.  I don't know that for sure but I believe it's a fair assumption.  I also believe it's a fair assumption that he never would have been shot had he complied with the officer's demands and just set down or stop moving toward his car door.  That's all I was saying and not trying to say the officer was 100% clear of any guilt in the incident.  

Floyd was on drugs, just watch the video.   He complained he couldn't breath before they put him on the ground.  

In Kenosha,  he wasn't suppose to be there, He wasn't suppose to be taking the kids.   He had warrants against him.  Finally he had a knife, was running to his car.  Again moral of the story is don't resist arrest.  Not sure what people don't understand about that. 

Seems many want to make up their own definitions, burning businesses is peaceful.   

Once again two separate autopsies  proved homicide and showed Floyd died of asphxiation with no mention of Fentanyl  and the officer that put his knee on his neck has been charged  with murder so end of story. And no knife was found on the man killed in Konosha  Wisc. one was found in the van after the shooting. Once again the video tape clearly shows that the several cops that were all around him had ample time to physically take him down instead of shooting him several times in front of his kids.  He did not have to be shot and the officer involved will be charged with murder.  Why do you keep  on trying to justify killer cops?

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