Two thoughts on Gay marriage:
1. Why shouldn't gays be allowed to marry, they deserve to be miserable like the rest of us married folks.
2. I'm not against gay marriage as long as both women are hot!! (Hey, it just a joke)
quote:Originally posted by David L.:quote:I'm old too, and growing up homosexuals were called queers. You all can argue about it all you want, but the bottom line is homosexuality goes against the laws of nature for the survival of a species. In other words heterosexuals could survive without homosexual activity, but homosexuals could not survive without heterosexual activity.
Does this mean that there is no value to human life if you are unable to reproduce? There are millions of heterosexual people who are unable to conceive. There are many different types of people in this world and we must all live with one another. After hearing some of the views here, I think that Isiah Washington is not the only one who could use some therapy!
Yep, that is what it means, like it or not. In this world of high tech test tube babys, I guess a queer could reproduce with help in a lab.But not in the way reproduction was meant to be.
You pro-gay guys need to re-read my post without your paranoia getting in the way.
meanasasnake there's not one word in my post about gay people or sex. I merely stated what I believe to be a fact about homosexuality. Is that statement true or false ?
David L. you said "Does this mean that there is no value to human life if you are unable to reproduce?" Those are your words, not mine. Again I ask is the statement in my post true or false?
Logical, I don't see anywhere in my post where I stated the ability to procreate should be used as a yardstick to judge people on. I wasn't judging anyone. Again I ask is the statement in my post true or false?
I get the feeling from some of these posts if someones' opinion on this subject is not the same as yours' it comes from an uneducated "redneck". Kinda like my wife, she likes my opinions, when they're the right ones.
meanasasnake there's not one word in my post about gay people or sex. I merely stated what I believe to be a fact about homosexuality. Is that statement true or false ?
David L. you said "Does this mean that there is no value to human life if you are unable to reproduce?" Those are your words, not mine. Again I ask is the statement in my post true or false?
Logical, I don't see anywhere in my post where I stated the ability to procreate should be used as a yardstick to judge people on. I wasn't judging anyone. Again I ask is the statement in my post true or false?
I get the feeling from some of these posts if someones' opinion on this subject is not the same as yours' it comes from an uneducated "redneck". Kinda like my wife, she likes my opinions, when they're the right ones.
quote:Originally posted by Pitbo$$:
Two thoughts on Gay marriage:
1. Why shouldn't gays be allowed to marry, they deserve to be miserable like the rest of us married folks.
2. I'm not against gay marriage as long as both women are hot!! (Hey, it just a joke)
Careful, jokes about this subject are not allowed. We might have to send you to therapy after you apologize.
I really enjoyed this past discussion among all of you. Thank you for including this old man and being gracious about my opinion.
quote:Originally posted by fiddle:
Has anyone notice how they line up in the parks, sicking. Why don't the FPD put a stop to it, or are they to ashame to, since three of their own, was accused of sexual misconduct. Who is covering for who in this city, what embarrassment, when the truth comes out, or do we need to see it on the local news.
Being homosexual is not illegal. If gay people wish to meet in public, thats their right. Straight people meet at the mall, parks, swimming pools, on the street etc. The fact is - there is not one thing you can do about gay people. Its just none of your business. Clearly you have some difficulty dealing with the private lives of strangers. You really need to worry about your own life and less about strangers you dont even know. I know its hard to take, but - its none of your business.
quote:Originally posted by flatulentinFl:
I really enjoyed this past discussion among all of you. Thank you for including this old man and being gracious about my opinion.
Thank you - We are all Americans. We are allowed to disagree and yet still be civil. I enjoyed it as well. All the best.
I have taken all my 53 years, and my life experiences, both good and bad, and learned to tolerate others as they tolerate me. I may not agree with anyone's lifestyle, but it isn't up to ME to judge it, so therefore, I shall not. I may not like what some of my friends do, but I like my friends... it all adds up to the same thing... being tolerant and allowing each individual the freedom to do whatever it is they want to do with their life.
I don't want someone to tell ME what to do with MY life, so therefore, I accord others that same respect.
I don't want someone to tell ME what to do with MY life, so therefore, I accord others that same respect.
KS,
If there were more people like you this world would be a much better place.
If there were more people like you this world would be a much better place.
quote:Originally posted by yankeewitch:
KS,
If there were more people like you this world would be a much better place.
Awwww...
.. Thank you YW!! And the same is true about you!!!
I have stayed away from this thread because if I stated how I feel it would be my last post here. I will correct some false statements though.
It is in Alabama.
Yes there is. I will not buy, rent or associate .
quote:Being homosexual is not illegal.
It is in Alabama.
quote:The fact is - there is not one thing you can do about gay people.
Yes there is. I will not buy, rent or associate .
quote:Thank you! I honestly try... I have taken all my 53 years, and my life experiences, both good and bad, and learned to tolerate others as they tolerate me. I may not agree with anyone's lifestyle, but it isn't up to ME to judge it, so therefore, I shall not. I may not like what some of my friends do, but I like my friends... it all adds up to the same thing... being tolerant and allowing each individual the freedom to do whatever it is they want to do with their life.
I don't want someone to tell ME what to do with MY life, so therefore, I accord others that same respect.
Normally I would not question this belief. I would like to ask though, since you have previously stated that you are a Christian, do you think the Christian bible approves of homosexuality. And, if your answer is no, how do you get around the part of trying to convert them to Christianity, anf if its clear they wont...dust your feet of them?
And if yes..........................................................................................................
"quote:Originally posted by Mott The Hoople:
I have stayed away from this thread because if I stated how I feel it would be my last post here. I will correct some false statements though.quote:Being homosexual is not illegal.
It is in Alabama.quote:The fact is - there is not one thing you can do about gay people.
Yes there is. I will not buy, rent or associate .
The United States Supreme Court over turned such laws 2 yrs ago. They may be on the books, but they are unconstitutional - IF you doubt it, I urge you to Google "Lawrence v. Texas" in its decision overturning anti-gay laws in Texas, they deemed all such laws nationwide unconstitutional - sorry.
As for your boycott of gays and lesbians - go for it. I have operated a business in the Shoals for over 15 yrs - please, dont buy from me. I dont want you to. Dont apply to rent from me either - dont like your type. As for the association part - no big loss, I will not notice.
quote:Originally posted by Mott The Hoople:quote:Thank you! I honestly try... I have taken all my 53 years, and my life experiences, both good and bad, and learned to tolerate others as they tolerate me. I may not agree with anyone's lifestyle, but it isn't up to ME to judge it, so therefore, I shall not. I may not like what some of my friends do, but I like my friends... it all adds up to the same thing... being tolerant and allowing each individual the freedom to do whatever it is they want to do with their life.
I don't want someone to tell ME what to do with MY life, so therefore, I accord others that same respect.
Normally I would not question this belief. I would like to ask though, since you have previously stated that you are a Christian, do you think the Christian bible approves of homosexuality. And, if your answer is no, how do you get around the part of trying to convert them to Christianity, anf if its clear they wont...dust your feet of them?
And if yes..........................................................................................................
You are assuming that homosexuals are incapable of being Christian - a falacy. I am a Christian. There is nothing in the Bible that states homosexuality is worse than any other sin - like yours for instance. There is no need to "convert" one who comes from Christian, practices Christianity, and beleaves. Just because you dont like some elses sin - does not mean its worse than yours. sorry.
quote:The United States Supreme Court over turned such laws 2 yrs ago. They may be on the books, but they are unconstitutional - IF you doubt it, I urge you to Google "Lawrence v. Texas" in its decision overturning anti-gay laws in Texas, they deemed all such laws nationwide unconstitutional - sorry.
yep...They ruled the "SODOMY" laws as unconstitutional.
"Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003),[1] was a landmark United States Supreme Court case. In the 6-3 ruling, the justices struck down the criminal prohibition of homosexual sodomy in Texas."
In Alabame you can/will be charged with ...
Section 13A-6-65
Sexual misconduct.
(a) A person commits the crime of sexual misconduct if:
(1) Being a male, he engages in sexual intercourse with a female without her consent, under circumstances other than those covered by Sections 13A-6-61 and 13A-6-62; or with her consent where consent was obtained by the use of any fraud or artifice; or
(2) Being a female, she engages in sexual intercourse with a male without his consent; or
(3) He or she engages in deviate sexual intercourse with another person under circumstances other than those covered by Sections 13A-6-63 and 13A-6-64. Consent is no defense to a prosecution under this subdivision.
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Sections 13A-6-63 and 13A-6-64 are the sodomy laws.
And I'm not sorry...you are not anyone to try telling me about our laws...Its my business!
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Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Can you tell me what God means in the verse above?
And no, I'm not assuming anything...my opinion is better than yours...ITS MINE!
On edit...lets see if you are as big as you talk...what is the business name.
There is nothing in the Bible that states homosexuality is worse than any other sin - like yours for instance.
Like mine??? what is my sin?
Like mine??? what is my sin?
quote:Originally posted by Mott The Hoople:quote:The United States Supreme Court over turned such laws 2 yrs ago. They may be on the books, but they are unconstitutional - IF you doubt it, I urge you to Google "Lawrence v. Texas" in its decision overturning anti-gay laws in Texas, they deemed all such laws nationwide unconstitutional - sorry.
yep...They ruled the "SODOMY" laws as unconstitutional.
"Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003),[1] was a landmark United States Supreme Court case. In the 6-3 ruling, the justices struck down the criminal prohibition of homosexual sodomy in Texas."
In Alabame you can/will be charged with ...
Section 13A-6-65
Sexual misconduct.
(a) A person commits the crime of sexual misconduct if:
(1) Being a male, he engages in sexual intercourse with a female without her consent, under circumstances other than those covered by Sections 13A-6-61 and 13A-6-62; or with her consent where consent was obtained by the use of any fraud or artifice; or
(2) Being a female, she engages in sexual intercourse with a male without his consent; or
(3) He or she engages in deviate sexual intercourse with another person under circumstances other than those covered by Sections 13A-6-63 and 13A-6-64. Consent is no defense to a prosecution under this subdivision.
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Sections 13A-6-63 and 13A-6-64 are the sodomy laws.
And I'm not sorry...you are not anyone to try telling me about our laws...Its my business!
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Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Can you tell me what God means in the verse above?
And no, I'm not assuming anything...my opinion is better than yours...ITS MINE!
On edit...lets see if you are as big as you talk...what is the business name.
Please give me facts. Sodomy laws were overturned. Please tell me when was the last person convicted for such behavior? Was it since the Lawrence v. Texas case was decided? Your post deals with antiquated laws deemed unconstitutional. Lets see some proof.
Give you the name of my business? Why not my phone number and address? You sound a bit off. I tell you what - ask around find all the homosexuals in retail in this town and boycott all of em - that should cover me and all the rest. If this issue is that important to you - knock yourself out, everyone who knows me knows I am gay. Find us all.
Oh, and by the way. I am protestant - the old testament is the old law. Lets stick with the New. You will find 2 references there. Also, it would serve you to recall that the devil can quote scripture.
I gave you facts...the sexual misconduct law is valid, antiquated it may be, valid non the less. It is evident, when you are faced with cold facts, you start your wiggle routine.
You mentioned earlier that I had sinned...you eluded that question...why is that?
Let the old devil here leave you with this thought...
"And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
And, about your business...All along I thought you were just a blow hard...
You mentioned earlier that I had sinned...you eluded that question...why is that?
Let the old devil here leave you with this thought...
"And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
And, about your business...All along I thought you were just a blow hard...
quote:LOL, Mott wants to quote sodomy laws. Well then I guess all the gay chicks are off the hook then! Geez. Not only can you not apply your own prejudiced views and stereotypical behaviors to all homosexuals, you can't even apply the "anti-gay" laws to all of them!
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source
sod·om·y /ˈsɒdəmi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sod-uh-mee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex.
2. copulation with a member of the same sex.
3. bestiality (def. 4).
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Do I see a trend starting here? This is strike TWO...
There are those who want people to believe homosexuality is normal. Jesus tells us what is normal. And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them 'male and female', and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?' So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate" (Matthew 19:4-6).
There is much confusion in our society, just as there was in the days of Isaiah. Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! (Isaiah 5:20). Just because some people say that homosexuality is right, does not make it so!
THE BIBLE CONDEMS THE PRACTICE OF HOMOSEXUALITY
The first example of homosexuality is found in the city of Sodom. The wickedness of the city is described in Genesis 19:4-7. Men, both young and old, wanted to have sexual relations with Lot's male visitors. The New Testament confirms this is a true account (cf. Matthew 11:23,24; Jude 7; 2 Peter 2:6-8).
Sodom and Gomorrah serve as the standard by which other sins are compared (Isaiah 3:9; 13:19; Jeremiah 23:14; Matthew 11:23,24).
THE LAW OF MOSES CONDEMNED HOMOSEXUALITY
Note three passages condemning this practice. You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.... Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for by all these the nations are defiled, which I am casting out before you (Leviticus 18:22,24). If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them (Leviticus 20:13). There shall be no ritual harlot of the daughters of Israel, or a perverted one of the sons of Israel. You shall not bring the wages of a harlot or the price of a dog to the house of the LORD your God for any vowed offering, for both of these are an abomination to the LORD your God (Deuteronomy 23:17,18). The word dog here is a synonym for a homosexual. "Dogs" will not be in heaven (Revelation 22:14,15).
Israel's faithfulness was partly determined by the king's attitude toward the perverted persons (homosexuals) in the land (1 Kings 14:22-24; 22:46; 2 Kings 23:7).
THREE SIGNIFICANT NEW TESTAMENT PASSAGES
God, through Paul, makes it clear those who practice homosexuality will not go to heaven.
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).
The word for "homosexuals" comes from the Greek phrase which means "men having sexual relations." For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due (Romans 1:26,27). Note the words Paul uses in this passage: "vile," "against nature," "shameful," "error." These are not words of approval. In the context, Paul is discussing the unrighteousness of the Gentiles (Romans 1:18). But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine (1 Timothy 1:8-10). In verse 10, Paul mentions the "sodomite." This is the same Greek word that is used in 1 Corinthians 6:9 translated "homosexual."
All of these passages show us the way God views this practice. It is not approved, but condemned.
There is much confusion in our society, just as there was in the days of Isaiah. Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! (Isaiah 5:20). Just because some people say that homosexuality is right, does not make it so!
THE BIBLE CONDEMS THE PRACTICE OF HOMOSEXUALITY
The first example of homosexuality is found in the city of Sodom. The wickedness of the city is described in Genesis 19:4-7. Men, both young and old, wanted to have sexual relations with Lot's male visitors. The New Testament confirms this is a true account (cf. Matthew 11:23,24; Jude 7; 2 Peter 2:6-8).
Sodom and Gomorrah serve as the standard by which other sins are compared (Isaiah 3:9; 13:19; Jeremiah 23:14; Matthew 11:23,24).
THE LAW OF MOSES CONDEMNED HOMOSEXUALITY
Note three passages condemning this practice. You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.... Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for by all these the nations are defiled, which I am casting out before you (Leviticus 18:22,24). If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them (Leviticus 20:13). There shall be no ritual harlot of the daughters of Israel, or a perverted one of the sons of Israel. You shall not bring the wages of a harlot or the price of a dog to the house of the LORD your God for any vowed offering, for both of these are an abomination to the LORD your God (Deuteronomy 23:17,18). The word dog here is a synonym for a homosexual. "Dogs" will not be in heaven (Revelation 22:14,15).
Israel's faithfulness was partly determined by the king's attitude toward the perverted persons (homosexuals) in the land (1 Kings 14:22-24; 22:46; 2 Kings 23:7).
THREE SIGNIFICANT NEW TESTAMENT PASSAGES
God, through Paul, makes it clear those who practice homosexuality will not go to heaven.
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).
The word for "homosexuals" comes from the Greek phrase which means "men having sexual relations." For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due (Romans 1:26,27). Note the words Paul uses in this passage: "vile," "against nature," "shameful," "error." These are not words of approval. In the context, Paul is discussing the unrighteousness of the Gentiles (Romans 1:18). But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine (1 Timothy 1:8-10). In verse 10, Paul mentions the "sodomite." This is the same Greek word that is used in 1 Corinthians 6:9 translated "homosexual."
All of these passages show us the way God views this practice. It is not approved, but condemned.
Mott,
I really hate to be gross here,but if you take another look at no.1, I would think at least half if not more of the adult population is guilty.
I really hate to be gross here,but if you take another look at no.1, I would think at least half if not more of the adult population is guilty.
quote:I really hate to be gross here,but if you take another look at no.1, I would think at least half if not more of the adult population is guilty.
Hmmm...did the hit dog just bark?
No, I just posted the definition because 'that smart?chick'...didn't seem to understand what sodomy is. They think men have babies though...so I guess it should be no suprise.
quote:Originally posted by Brentenman:
[Fine...then you need to go tell your buddies in Hollywierd, Rosie O'Donut, Ellen DeGenerate, etc. to quit throwing it in our faces. When your rainbow crowd in San Freaksicko quits making fools out of themselves, then, maybe, people will respect your group more.
Sad nothing can be done to respect YOUR GROUP more.
quote:Originally posted by Brentenman:quote:Originally posted by David L.:
I'm saying that I didn't choose it. The feelings came naturally to me - does one choose how they feel about anything? Don't form opinions about such things when you have not lived in that person's shoes!
Bruntman, your idiotic postings don't even deserve a response. As for you "cute" misspellings, they are not amusing either.
You just proved yourself as being a radical, militant homosexual type. It is people like you, Rosie O'Donut, Ellen DeGenerate, etc. that turn people away from the "gay community". San Freaksicko is a town I think you would fit in better, maybe even the Atlanta or Miami area...
You proved yourself to be a jerk.
quote:Originally posted by e:quote:Originally posted by Brentenman:
[Fine...then you need to go tell your buddies in Hollywierd, Rosie O'Donut, Ellen DeGenerate, etc. to quit throwing it in our faces. When your rainbow crowd in San Freaksicko quits making fools out of themselves, then, maybe, people will respect your group more.
Sad nothing can be done to respect YOUR GROUP more.
E, does my post hit home to you?
quote:Originally posted by e:quote:Originally posted by Brentenman:quote:Originally posted by David L.:
I'm saying that I didn't choose it. The feelings came naturally to me - does one choose how they feel about anything? Don't form opinions about such things when you have not lived in that person's shoes!
Bruntman, your idiotic postings don't even deserve a response. As for you "cute" misspellings, they are not amusing either.
You just proved yourself as being a radical, militant homosexual type. It is people like you, Rosie O'Donut, Ellen DeGenerate, etc. that turn people away from the "gay community". San Freaksicko is a town I think you would fit in better, maybe even the Atlanta or Miami area...
You proved yourself to be a jerk.
Oh, so I guess I must have "therapy" and "indoctrination"....Sorry, I take a pass.
quote:Originally posted by Brentenman:quote:Originally posted by logical:quote:Originally posted by Brentenman:quote:Originally posted by yankeewitch:
Brentenman,Maybe someday, if you're lucky the whole world will disappear, leaving just you.Then who would you hate?
Typical Liberal response...if you disagree with something, and you are not a liberal, then you are: racist, homophobe, bigot, etc...
What an incredible display of hypocrisy! You just spent the last several posts railing against people you don't like and then you post this? Try looking at your own behavior before you so eagerly condemn others.
I think yakeewitch was right on the money.
Again, if you do not agree with the gay/lesbian community, the typical liberal response is: you are racist, homophobe, bigot, etc. How can I be racist if I am against homosexuality as it does not deal with race? Makes no sense, and I do not know any black people who are friends of mine (and I have several...) who agree with the gay argument if you are anti-gay then you are racist....or a bigot. In fact, they don't like it that homosexuals use the civil rights era as a crutch for their attempt to get "rights" that they already have.
Ha ha ha! The old "I have several friends who are black" defense. Good one! Know any more?
quote:Originally posted by Brentenman:
Sorry, illogical.....I go by a Higher standard...and the laws of nature...not man's.
Take Rome and Greece for examples. They glorified homosexuality...they are not around or are a shell of their selves now.
And yes, I stick by my points. You will have to live with the fact that not everyone agrees with nor condones the homosexual lifestyle. My suggestion is that if you don't like it where you live, then there is always: Miami, New York, Boston, Atlanta, or San Freaksicko you can move to. Maybe even Amsterdam, Holland....
Next, no one pressured me to be heterosexual...it came natural and logical to me. Next, I know a family that was destroyed by the father leaving the mother for another man. The mother caught the father in the sack with his 'partner', she divorced him ASAP. Whole family had to take an AIDS test, as the father tested positive (and later died from) AIDS....tell me how that is normal. It is not.
Sort of like the skunks in my yard go by nature. So do you. You both stink.
quote:Originally posted by e:quote:Originally posted by Brentenman:quote:Originally posted by logical:quote:Originally posted by Brentenman:quote:Originally posted by yankeewitch:
Brentenman,Maybe someday, if you're lucky the whole world will disappear, leaving just you.Then who would you hate?
Typical Liberal response...if you disagree with something, and you are not a liberal, then you are: racist, homophobe, bigot, etc...
What an incredible display of hypocrisy! You just spent the last several posts railing against people you don't like and then you post this? Try looking at your own behavior before you so eagerly condemn others.
I think yakeewitch was right on the money.
Again, if you do not agree with the gay/lesbian community, the typical liberal response is: you are racist, homophobe, bigot, etc. How can I be racist if I am against homosexuality as it does not deal with race? Makes no sense, and I do not know any black people who are friends of mine (and I have several...) who agree with the gay argument if you are anti-gay then you are racist....or a bigot. In fact, they don't like it that homosexuals use the civil rights era as a crutch for their attempt to get "rights" that they already have.
Ha ha ha! The old "I have several friends who are black" defense. Good one! Know any more?
Called a fact......I don't need to list more....
quote:Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
I can deal with what you are saying if ***ots keep it behind close doors and quit asking for special rights. Homosexuality is a mental and or genetic disorder.
Don't you just wish the idiots would stay in the closet?
quote:Originally posted by e:quote:Originally posted by Brentenman:
Sorry, illogical.....I go by a Higher standard...and the laws of nature...not man's.
Take Rome and Greece for examples. They glorified homosexuality...they are not around or are a shell of their selves now.
And yes, I stick by my points. You will have to live with the fact that not everyone agrees with nor condones the homosexual lifestyle. My suggestion is that if you don't like it where you live, then there is always: Miami, New York, Boston, Atlanta, or San Freaksicko you can move to. Maybe even Amsterdam, Holland....
Next, no one pressured me to be heterosexual...it came natural and logical to me. Next, I know a family that was destroyed by the father leaving the mother for another man. The mother caught the father in the sack with his 'partner', she divorced him ASAP. Whole family had to take an AIDS test, as the father tested positive (and later died from) AIDS....tell me how that is normal. It is not.
Sort of like the skunks in my yard go by nature. So do you. You both stink.
e =
e just reminded me.....I need to follow my own rule and, don't feed the trolls.
For you,anybody who doesn't agree is a troll. Enjoy going through life that way.
How natural is this? It is more than a boob job!
Unhappy as a boy, Kim became youngest ever transsexual at 12
A boy of 12 is believed to have become the world's youngest sex change patient after convincing doctors that he wanted to live the rest of his life as a female.
The boy - originally called Tim, but now known as Kim - has started to receive hormone treatment, in preparation for the operation that will eventually complete the sex change.
Tim was diagnosed as a transsexual two years ago, when doctors and psychiatrists concluded that his claims to be "in the wrong body" were so deeply felt that he required treatment. The therapy involves artificially arresting male puberty, with a series of potent hormone injections before the administration of female hormones to initiate the development of features such as breasts.
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Unhappy as a boy, Kim became youngest ever transsexual at 12
A boy of 12 is believed to have become the world's youngest sex change patient after convincing doctors that he wanted to live the rest of his life as a female.
The boy - originally called Tim, but now known as Kim - has started to receive hormone treatment, in preparation for the operation that will eventually complete the sex change.
Tim was diagnosed as a transsexual two years ago, when doctors and psychiatrists concluded that his claims to be "in the wrong body" were so deeply felt that he required treatment. The therapy involves artificially arresting male puberty, with a series of potent hormone injections before the administration of female hormones to initiate the development of features such as breasts.
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quote:Originally posted by Mott The Hoople:quote:Thank you! I honestly try... I have taken all my 53 years, and my life experiences, both good and bad, and learned to tolerate others as they tolerate me. I may not agree with anyone's lifestyle, but it isn't up to ME to judge it, so therefore, I shall not. I may not like what some of my friends do, but I like my friends... it all adds up to the same thing... being tolerant and allowing each individual the freedom to do whatever it is they want to do with their life.
I don't want someone to tell ME what to do with MY life, so therefore, I accord others that same respect.
Normally I would not question this belief. I would like to ask though, since you have previously stated that you are a Christian, do you think the Christian bible approves of homosexuality. And, if your answer is no, how do you get around the part of trying to convert them to Christianity, anf if its clear they wont...dust your feet of them?
And if yes..........................................................................................................
If you don't know that by reading the thread, I am not going to take precious time by explaining YET again.
quote:Originally posted by Mott The Hoople:quote:The United States Supreme Court over turned such laws 2 yrs ago. They may be on the books, but they are unconstitutional - IF you doubt it, I urge you to Google "Lawrence v. Texas" in its decision overturning anti-gay laws in Texas, they deemed all such laws nationwide unconstitutional - sorry.
yep...They ruled the "SODOMY" laws as unconstitutional.
"Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003),[1] was a landmark United States Supreme Court case. In the 6-3 ruling, the justices struck down the criminal prohibition of homosexual sodomy in Texas."
In Alabame you can/will be charged with ...
Section 13A-6-65
Sexual misconduct.
(a) A person commits the crime of sexual misconduct if:
(1) Being a male, he engages in sexual intercourse with a female without her consent, under circumstances other than those covered by Sections 13A-6-61 and 13A-6-62; or with her consent where consent was obtained by the use of any fraud or artifice; or
(2) Being a female, she engages in sexual intercourse with a male without his consent; or
(3) He or she engages in deviate sexual intercourse with another person under circumstances other than those covered by Sections 13A-6-63 and 13A-6-64. Consent is no defense to a prosecution under this subdivision.
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Sections 13A-6-63 and 13A-6-64 are the sodomy laws.
And I'm not sorry...you are not anyone to try telling me about our laws...Its my business!
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Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Can you tell me what God means in the verse above?
And no, I'm not assuming anything...my opinion is better than yours...ITS MINE!
On edit...lets see if you are as big as you talk...what is the business name.
Then our State Law Enforcers do no better than our Federal ones, huh? That be the case, then all the parks would be free of any gay people who hang out there. The police don't arrest them, they just drive around to keep the peace. I have some very good friends who are police officers and they were told to just LEAVE them alone, and be high profile at certain times of the day.
ILLEGAL???? Hmmmmm, I thought when something was illegal, people were arrested. Apparently not.
You have certainly MIS-READ a lot of people on this thread. You stayed away, then came in here with your cannons ready to fire after FIFTEEN pages???? Should've been involved the entire conversation and then you wouldn't be having to ask questions, or try to make people feel stupid, which you didn't succeed.
quote:Originally posted by Mott The Hoople:
There is nothing in the Bible that states homosexuality is worse than any other sin - like yours for instance.
Like mine??? what is my sin?
THERE ya go!!! NOW you are saying what SmartChick and I have said the entire thread!!!!
Those WITHOUT sin cast the first stone... otherwise, just let people be who they are, and be NOT a part of it.
quote:If you don't know that by reading the thread, I am not going to take precious time by explaining YET again.
The people arguing for the homosexuals, it seems, cannot answer the simplist of questions. Why is that?
There is nothing in the thread concerning what I asked you...why are you being intellectually dis-honest with your repoly?
quote:Originally posted by that smart chick:quote:For fornicatorsquote:for liars
...I hope you saved it for marriage because if not, you are no better than a "sodomite". And likewise if you've ever told a lie.
AMEN Sister!!!! Now that just summed it all up for each and every one of us!!!... THANKS!!!
quote:Originally posted by Mott The Hoople:quote:If you don't know that by reading the thread, I am not going to take precious time by explaining YET again.
The people arguing for the homosexuals, it seems, cannot answer the simplist of questions. Why is that?
There is nothing in the thread concerning what I asked you...why are you being intellectually dis-honest with your repoly?
Guess because you stayed AWAY from the thread so long that all the questions have ALREADY been answered... only so many times one has to answer a question... go back and read.