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You note that whenever racism is mentioned it's usually the South's fault, according to anyone up north or the general Media.  It's basically a sin universal and has offenders of all races, all geographic, and economic regions and classes.  Whites are not the only ones that are racist either as you would hear statements to that. 

 

Not that it's not a good excuse to pull out in Washington either

 

Be as the Bereans ( Acts 17:11 )

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Eruh....Man it's a royal hop inna nuts to read a page inside those lil' bitty boxes....

Apparently they DON'T always point to the south. There are no references to the south regarding racism in either of those articles. The only southerner I saw is the rep from Texas and SHE's the one crying racism.

Maybe that wasn't your point like the title suggested?

 

Ya wanna see blatant, rampant racism-head out to the woods of the northwest. Lotta those folks are hardcore sick f#*ks preparing for 'the eventual big race war' and stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Puppy, that is right on. Those nutjobs in Idaho and Oregon (and possible other NW states) include skinheads and militia madmen who bid fair to outdo even the KKK.  And for those old enough to remember the civil rights struggles of the 60s and 70s, there are the examples of Boston, Massachusetts and Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where some of the racist attitudes were the equal of anything in Mississippi or Alabama.  Illinois is considered a northern state, but I can assure you that the south end of that state was as racist back then as any state in the true south.

I agree that these media articles say nothing about the South or Racism in the South but surely enough has been said and alluded to in the past by the media that common knowledge is that the South is always thought of as the hotbed of Racism.  I'm not denying or trying to deny the history of the Klan beginning in the South or atrocities that actually happened in the South.

 

My motive for the post and what I'm trying to say is I don't buy that Racism is a patient of the South and that only the South is racist.  I believe racism is a product of being human and of stereotypes and biases and people in all parts of the country are guilty and not just of one region.  I lived up in Ohio, Indiana, and Michigan long enough that next to the word "y'all" they identify the South with terms such as Racist and Backwards.  Kind of ironic if you think about it.  They are talking about something with roots in bias yet by their own statements they reveal a bias of their own.

Originally Posted by upsidedehead:

Puppy, that is right on. Those nutjobs in Idaho and Oregon (and possible other NW states) include skinheads and militia madmen who bid fair to outdo even the KKK.  And for those old enough to remember the civil rights struggles of the 60s and 70s, there are the examples of Boston, Massachusetts and Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where some of the racist attitudes were the equal of anything in Mississippi or Alabama.  Illinois is considered a northern state, but I can assure you that the south end of that state was as racist back then as any state in the true south.

 

 

I don't believe you. You seem to be an apologist for southern racism, which actually is far more widespread than anywhere else in the country.

 

Originally Posted by Opie Cunningham:
Originally Posted by upsidedehead:

Puppy, that is right on. Those nutjobs in Idaho and Oregon (and possible other NW states) include skinheads and militia madmen who bid fair to outdo even the KKK.  And for those old enough to remember the civil rights struggles of the 60s and 70s, there are the examples of Boston, Massachusetts and Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where some of the racist attitudes were the equal of anything in Mississippi or Alabama.  Illinois is considered a northern state, but I can assure you that the south end of that state was as racist back then as any state in the true south.

 

 

I don't believe you. You seem to be an apologist for southern racism, which actually is far more widespread than anywhere else in the country.

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Dead wrong, Opie.

 

I lived in the south (Alabama, South Carolina, and Tennessee) during the civil rights struggles of the 60s and 70s and stood strong for integration, often opposing the views of family members and close friends.  I am, and long have been, against racism wherever it occurs.

 

I have also visited the Pacific Northwest and I can assure you that the reports about outrageous racism in some quarters out there are absolutely true.

Some examples.  These aren't your run-of-the-mill biscuit-munchin' racist bubbas. These people mean this s#*tto the point of isolating themselves and building up ar senals. 

http://www.publiceye.org/rightwoo/rwooz9-07.html

 

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19990812&slug=2976990

 

An excerpt from the above article:

 

"Christian Identity is firmly rooted in the Pacific Northwest. The Rev. Richard Butler, who'd been working his way up the ranks of hate groups since soon after World War II, settled on a farm in Idaho in the late 1970s. There he started the Church of Jesus Christ Christian and its political arm, the Aryan Nations.

Butler called for white supremacists to relocate to the Pacific Northwest, where there were relatively few people of color to stand in their way of creating a white homeland."

 

http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=us_domestic_terrorism_tmln&haitian_elite_2021_organizations=us_domestic_terrorism_tmln_elohim_city

 

Another excerpt from this article:

 

"In the 21st century, Christian Identity groups are strongest in the Pacific Northwest of America and Canada, and the US Midwest,"

 

 

 

 

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gbrk

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Yesterday at 1:28 AM

 

I lived up in Ohio, Indiana, and Michigan long enough that next to the word "y'all" they identify the South with terms such as Racist and Backwards.

 

 

I have met some people from up North who moved down here. They thought the stereotypes were real. In the words of one: “I thought everybody would be barefoot, lived in log cabins, and ate grass and guts (his words for “greens and chitlins". I was surprised you drove cars like the rest of the country.”

 

Remember: This is a real comment from a real person about his real impression of the South.

I think many, not all, do have that impression of the South or at least some parts of the South.  To some I'm sure we are just a butt of a joke. 

 

As for RP's post above you are right and I wouldn't dispute that at all.  As a Christian though, myself, I cringe when I see Christian attached or Jesus Christ attached to anything like that or Racism.  Fact is that is not Christian or true Christianity.  Christianity teaches and lives Love to all races and peoples for TRUE Christianity (and the way it does it is) looks at people/humans as God's Creation of a person with an inner spirit/soul that lives on.  When a true Christian looks at another individual they don't see skin color, nationality, accent but rather they see them as I believe God sees them and that is as a soul/spirit that has no other identity.  It is someone just as we are just like us in every way therefore no basis for discrimination.  I realize that's not the case with the people you cited but just like the KKK they can carry the cross or name of Christ but that does not make them partakers with Christ or Christians.  Hate, Racism, Bias are works and actions of the flesh, being human and everyone is subject to those feelings just like everyone else.  

 

Usually though those things are caused by a limitation of education or restricting our minds to a very confined belief or system of which they feel they are an integral part of.  They are usually followers and incapable of making their own decisions.

Originally Posted by Opie Cunningham:
Originally Posted by upsidedehead:

Puppy, that is right on. Those nutjobs in Idaho and Oregon (and possible other NW states) include skinheads and militia madmen who bid fair to outdo even the KKK.  And for those old enough to remember the civil rights struggles of the 60s and 70s, there are the examples of Boston, Massachusetts and Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where some of the racist attitudes were the equal of anything in Mississippi or Alabama.  Illinois is considered a northern state, but I can assure you that the south end of that state was as racist back then as any state in the true south.

 

 

I don't believe you. You seem to be an apologist for southern racism, which actually is far more widespread than anywhere else in the country.

 

Well....if Opie 'doesn't believe 'lt' ', it must be a lie... :/

 

Opie, like jimbo, believes EVERYTHING the leftist liberal media spews.  They would both do themselves a great service if they got out in their respective communities, interacted with their fellow citizens and got a REAL education.  Instead, they are both content to sit snug and safe behind their respective keyboards and PRETEND to 'know the real world'.

Originally Posted by The Propagandist:

gbrk

Post Master

Yesterday at 1:28 AM

 

I lived up in Ohio, Indiana, and Michigan long enough that next to the word "y'all" they identify the South with terms such as Racist and Backwards.

 

 

I have met some people from up North who moved down here. They thought the stereotypes were real. In the words of one: “I thought everybody would be barefoot, lived in log cabins, and ate grass and guts (his words for “greens and chitlins".


Nah. That's just West Virginia. But yeah you right about the stereotype. I new some better on account of I used to live here.

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gbrk says:

"Usually though those things are caused by a limitation of education or restricting our minds to a very confined belief or system of which they feel they are an integral part of.  They are usually followers and incapable of making their own decisions."

 





 

 

 

 

 

'Zackly.

 

Originally Posted by Opie Cunningham:
Originally Posted by upsidedehead:

Puppy, that is right on. Those nutjobs in Idaho and Oregon (and possible other NW states) include skinheads and militia madmen who bid fair to outdo even the KKK.  And for those old enough to remember the civil rights struggles of the 60s and 70s, there are the examples of Boston, Massachusetts and Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where some of the racist attitudes were the equal of anything in Mississippi or Alabama.  Illinois is considered a northern state, but I can assure you that the south end of that state was as racist back then as any state in the true south.

 

 

I don't believe you. You seem to be an apologist for southern racism, which actually is far more widespread than anywhere else in the country.

 

 

 

I don't believe you...

Originally Posted by Opie Cunningham:
Originally Posted by upsidedehead:

Puppy, that is right on. Those nutjobs in Idaho and Oregon (and possible other NW states) include skinheads and militia madmen who bid fair to outdo even the KKK.  And for those old enough to remember the civil rights struggles of the 60s and 70s, there are the examples of Boston, Massachusetts and Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where some of the racist attitudes were the equal of anything in Mississippi or Alabama.  Illinois is considered a northern state, but I can assure you that the south end of that state was as racist back then as any state in the true south.

 

 

I don't believe you. You seem to be an apologist for southern racism, which actually is far more widespread than anywhere else in the country.

The KKK, at its all-time height in the 1920's, had more members in the northern midwest that in the South.

 

"The second Klan arose during the nadir of American race relations, in response to urbanization and industrialization. Massive immigration from the largely Catholic countries of eastern and southern Europe led to friction with America's longer-established Protestant citizens. The Great Migration of African Americans to the North stoked racism by whites in Northern industrial cities; thus the second Klan would achieve its greatest political power not in any Southern state, but in Indiana."

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

 

There was a healthy membership in Kentucky, as well as sundown towns, too. 

 

http://sundown.afro.illinois.e...wnsshow.php?state=KY

Just as information--i.e. not attempting to prove anything about the distribution of racism--the largest Klan organization in the country is headquartered in Harrison, Arkansas. This racist bunch is described here:  http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/org...m/thom-robb-kkk.html The city is not proud of this.  There are better things that come out of Harrison, including Cavender's Greek Seasoning, which is made only in Harrison. http://www.greekseasoning.com/  

They also have a Crawdad Festival:  

 

May 14 – 15 Crawdad Days Music Festival, Harrison, Ark. 870-741-2659 (cdcinfo@harrison-chamber.com   A "must-attend" party in Arkansas. Take part in a 5k race, a fishing derby, horseshoe tournament and, of course, a crawdad eating contest. Wander around the hundreds of vintage, one-of-a-kind vehicles.

 


Opie & Jimi, or Opie/Jimi, as the case may be, trolling aside, you have to  look only as far as the Dakotas to see racism--against the native Indians. I once heard a black businessman from H'ville speak of this area, an area where he was received with open arms, but Indians were treated as sub-human.

 

Go to any other geographical area and listen to urban myths. The villain in any such tale is always the one discriminated against in that area.

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