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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
I would hazard a guess that the thieves are hoping to score on some Income Tax refund checks. Once they have the checks in hand, it's a simple matter to make the matching fake IDs required to cash, assuming they don't already have a business lined up that will cash the stolen checks for a 'fee'.


This goes back to getting with the **** times. I filed my taxes online and had my refund drafted into my checking account within 10 days.

I know yall rednecks are afraid of putting any financial information into "them computers," but is having the physical check sitting in an unlocked box on the side of the street any safer?

Dustin
Sorry Dustin, but I'm sure you still get SOME things, and send some things by snail mail. There are still companies who sell items on line and then SHIP them through the post office. My BANK even sends me my new box of checks through the mail. And even though I pay my utiliy bills through direct payment, they send me a statement every month through the mail. As a matter of fact, with the new requirements that you show proof of residence to get a driver's license renewed, they are asking you to bring utility bills.

Birthday cards, Christmas cards, long chatty letters from friends - none of those are quite as satisfying as a short email.

Hmmm...as convenient as digital photography is, there are a lot of us who prefer the higher quality available with 35mm cameras. There are still photo labs we can mail our film off to.

Some of us in business recieve checks, catalogs, and other correspondence through the mail.

Do I need to go on, or have you now seen how foolish your post is?
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Originally posted by DustinSmith:
quote:
Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
I would hazard a guess that the thieves are hoping to score on some Income Tax refund checks. Once they have the checks in hand, it's a simple matter to make the matching fake IDs required to cash, assuming they don't already have a business lined up that will cash the stolen checks for a 'fee'.


This goes back to getting with the **** times. I filed my taxes online and had my refund drafted into my checking account within 10 days.

I know yall rednecks are afraid of putting any financial information into "them computers," but is having the physical check sitting in an unlocked box on the side of the street any safer?

Dustin


Ohhh goodness, young whippersnapper from the big city done put us in our place Roll Eyes
How will we ever continue with our heads hung in shame ......HA!
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Originally posted by O No!:
Sorry Dustin, but I'm sure you still get SOME things, and send some things by snail mail. There are still companies who sell items on line and then SHIP them through the post office. My BANK even sends me my new box of checks through the mail. And even though I pay my utiliy bills through direct payment, they send me a statement every month through the mail. As a matter of fact, with the new requirements that you show proof of residence to get a driver's license renewed, they are asking you to bring utility bills.

Birthday cards, Christmas cards, long chatty letters from friends - none of those are quite as satisfying as a short email.

Hmmm...as convenient as digital photography is, there are a lot of us who prefer the higher quality available with 35mm cameras. There are still photo labs we can mail our film off to.

Some of us in business recieve checks, catalogs, and other correspondence through the mail.

Do I need to go on, or have you now seen how foolish your post is?


Replace checks with Checkcard.

Go green and replace all paper statements with electronic statements.

Digital Photography has gained leaps and bounds above 35mm. To get the same results with 35mm, you would need to be a skilled photographer that develops your own prints from start to end, knowing what is involved all along the way to make your photos turn out the same.

Use the websites of those companies you do business with to get their latest products, not those that were available only at the time of printing of the catalog that was snail mailed to you. It's the 21st century, any company that doesn't know how to use a computer will begin to lose business to those who do.

I'm not really sure who the fool is here, but I don't think it is Dustin. :P
Sorry Loki, but I DO use settings on my 35mm camera that no digital camera can duplicate. And the quality of the prints is MUCH better.

There are more and more small businesses that DON'T take cards because the charges from the card companies have increased so much. There was a thread about that here just recently.

The several distributors I deal with have 350+ page catalogs. They don't have the WHOLE catalog on line. And even if they did, in some areas, internet service goes down frequently. What am I supposed to do, turn customers away or tell them they'll have to come back if they want to special order something?

And when I DO order a small item, what am I supposed to do - tell them to send it UPS or FedEx? On small items, the post office is MUCH cheaper, and I am the one who pays the shippong charge.

Now, tell me truthfully, do you NEVER send or recieve anything in the mail? If you say yes, I don't think you ARE being truthful.
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Originally posted by O No!:
Sorry Loki, but I DO use settings on my 35mm camera that no digital camera can duplicate. And the quality of the prints is MUCH better.


You're an ignorant, I-refuse-to-change type of person who doesn't know how to use a modern digital SLR camera. On top of that, you refuse to learn or understand even why you should switch to digital. 'Nuff said about that.

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Originally posted by O No!:
There are more and more small businesses that DON'T take cards because the charges from the card companies have increased so much. There was a thread about that here just recently.


Tell ya what old timer, talk to me in a year and let's see how many of those companies are still in business. Do a little more research besides perusing your local newspaper forums and you'll see that businesses who can't remain profitable with transaction processing fees can NEVER remain profitable without them. It just doesn't happen these days. I don't carry cash because it's a hassle from Alpha to Omega, and I don't give my business to places that do not accept debit/check cards. More people than not agree with my attitude towards this whole issue.

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Originally posted by O No!:
The several distributors I deal with have 350+ page catalogs. They don't have the WHOLE catalog on line. And even if they did, in some areas, internet service goes down frequently. What am I supposed to do, turn customers away or tell them they'll have to come back if they want to special order something?


I'll bet your distributor has competitors, and I'll bet those competitors are smart enough to realize this enormous weakness in your distributor. In turn, they'll take advantage of that weakness and increase their online presence. Again, talk to me in a year and let's see who is still in business (and/or who is most profitable).

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Originally posted by O No!:
And when I DO order a small item, what am I supposed to do - tell them to send it UPS or FedEx? On small items, the post office is MUCH cheaper, and I am the one who pays the shippong charge.


Really? Pure ignorance in your statement above. My office has a UPS Worldship printer as well as a USPS Pitney Bowes printer. For parcels, the rates are nearly identical. On top of that, my customers get much faster transit times and more accurate tracking with UPS.

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Originally posted by O No!:
Now, tell me truthfully, do you NEVER send or recieve anything in the mail? If you say yes, I don't think you ARE being truthful.


Of course I receive stuff in the mail. Junk mail and credit card offers. Anything important is sent via a private logistics provider (UPS/FedEx) or electronically. When I need to send something, it goes the same as it comes.

Dustin
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Originally posted by unclegus:
Anyone who thinks 'snail mail' is a thing of the past has their head in the sand!


I imagine a beaver skin trader once said the same thing about the local bartering post.

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. Tell someone under the age of 30 that and watch them laugh at you.

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Originally posted by unclegus:
Believe me, there is many people who still does not want anything to do with a computer or anything online. I know many myself!
You can call me backwards or what you wish but I am not stupid!


I also know plenty of racists, gay bashers, and religious nutcases. That doesn't mean these aren't dying breeds. And yes, judging by your grammar skills (or lack thereof) you are stupid.

Dustin
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Originally posted by DustinSmith:
quote:
Originally posted by unclegus:
Anyone who thinks 'snail mail' is a thing of the past has their head in the sand!


I imagine a beaver skin trader once said the same thing about the local bartering post.

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. Tell someone under the age of 30 that and watch them laugh at you.

quote:
Originally posted by unclegus:
Believe me, there is many people who still does not want anything to do with a computer or anything online. I know many myself!
You can call me backwards or what you wish but I am not stupid!


I also know plenty of racists, gay bashers, and religious nutcases. That doesn't mean these aren't dying breeds. And yes, judging by your grammar skills (or lack thereof) you are stupid.

Dustin


It's plain to see you are a little wet behind the ears! Under thirty, you haven't been around to have much knowledge. Wise up boy!
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You're an ignorant, I-refuse-to-change type of person who doesn't know how to use a modern digital SLR camera. On top of that, you refuse to learn or understand even why you should switch to digital. 'Nuff said about that.


No, ask any PROFESSIONAL photographer and you will find out that YOU are the ignorant one.


Tell ya what old timer, talk to me in a year and let's see how many of those companies are still in business. Do a little more research besides perusing your local newspaper forums and you'll see that businesses who can't remain profitable with transaction processing fees can NEVER remain profitable without them. It just doesn't happen these days. I don't carry cash because it's a hassle from Alpha to Omega, and I don't give my business to places that do not accept debit/check cards. More people than not agree with my attitude towards this whole issue.


Wrong again, Bucko. Google it and see.


I'll bet your distributor has competitors, and I'll bet those competitors are smart enough to realize this enormous weakness in your distributor. In turn, they'll take advantage of that weakness and increase their online presence. Again, talk to me in a year and let's see who is still in business (and/or who is most profitable).

Once again, you are wrong. In the type of business I own, there are only 4 or 5 distributors, and they ALL send catalogs. When I want to place an order I make a PHONE CALL. Sometimes they are out of a certain item. Then they ask if I would like to make a substitution. Other times they will be getting a shipment next week of these out of stock items. Then I have to let them know if I'd like to wait to have them ship the entire order to save on shipping charges. Other times they will have a brand new item I need to ask questions about. If I just tried to order on line, we would be back and forth on email all day.

Really? Pure ignorance in your statement above. My office has a UPS Worldship printer as well as a USPS Pitney Bowes printer. For parcels, the rates are nearly identical. On top of that, my customers get much faster transit times and more accurate tracking with UPS.

I think the ignorance is yours. As someone who ships and recieves orders every day, I KNOW for a FACT that on smaller items, USPS is MUCH cheaper. Larger items go UPS, but the same small package that would cost ten dollars through UPS is only around four dollars through USPS.

You may THINK you're smart, but you are proving otherwise.
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Originally posted by DustinSmith:
And yes, judging by your grammar skills (or lack thereof) you are stupid.

Dustin


Did you mean to omit the requisite comma following your modifying clause? I'm sure you know that correcting someone else's grammar while simultaneously disregarding the same covenants in your own submission is simply bad form.
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Originally posted by Lavergne:
quote:
Originally posted by DustinSmith:
And yes, judging by your grammar skills (or lack thereof) you are stupid.

Dustin


Did you mean to omit the requisite comma following your modifying clause? I'm sure you know that correcting someone else's grammar while simultaneously disregarding the same covenants in your own submission is simply bad form.



Big Grin
quote:
Originally posted by DustinSmith:
quote:
Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
I would hazard a guess that the thieves are hoping to score on some Income Tax refund checks. Once they have the checks in hand, it's a simple matter to make the matching fake IDs required to cash, assuming they don't already have a business lined up that will cash the stolen checks for a 'fee'.


This goes back to getting with the **** times. I filed my taxes online and had my refund drafted into my checking account within 10 days.

I know yall rednecks are afraid of putting any financial information into "them computers," but is having the physical check sitting in an unlocked box on the side of the street any safer?

Dustin


I may be a redneck, but I do most of my bill paying online, have CrustyWife's paycheck direct deposited, have a PayPal account, do online banking, etc.

I still don't trust the IRS though, so I am going to need a while to transfer funds with them electronically, though I don't mind filing electronically if I can.
quote:
Originally posted by Loki:
quote:
Originally posted by O No!:
Sorry Dustin, but I'm sure you still get SOME things, and send some things by snail mail. There are still companies who sell items on line and then SHIP them through the post office. My BANK even sends me my new box of checks through the mail. And even though I pay my utiliy bills through direct payment, they send me a statement every month through the mail. As a matter of fact, with the new requirements that you show proof of residence to get a driver's license renewed, they are asking you to bring utility bills.

Birthday cards, Christmas cards, long chatty letters from friends - none of those are quite as satisfying as a short email.

Hmmm...as convenient as digital photography is, there are a lot of us who prefer the higher quality available with 35mm cameras. There are still photo labs we can mail our film off to.

Some of us in business recieve checks, catalogs, and other correspondence through the mail.

Do I need to go on, or have you now seen how foolish your post is?


Replace checks with Checkcard.

Go green and replace all paper statements with electronic statements.

Digital Photography has gained leaps and bounds above 35mm. To get the same results with 35mm, you would need to be a skilled photographer that develops your own prints from start to end, knowing what is involved all along the way to make your photos turn out the same.

Use the websites of those companies you do business with to get their latest products, not those that were available only at the time of printing of the catalog that was snail mailed to you. It's the 21st century, any company that doesn't know how to use a computer will begin to lose business to those who do.

I'm not really sure who the fool is here, but I don't think it is Dustin. :P


I agree. Some goofy folks just can't let go of the wasteful past. USPS is a dinosaur and will soon be extinct.
I think DustinSmith and Rocky must be pretty good friends......

As far as the IRS is concerned, If they can put money in, they can take money out (Yes, I know you have to give them direct permission to do so on a normal tax return), but have you ever had a government garnishment for any reason? If they have your bank information, I would guess they can do all sorts of inquiries without taking money.

Debit cards are fine, but I have had two friends have the numbers stolen and it took months to get their accounts straight. My suggestion is to have two accounts, one for drafting your debit card and one for your extra cash (savings account).

Checks can have the same theft problem which may be why, as the original thread goes, people are taking checks out of mail boxes. There are ways to "wash" them and re-use them with different amounts. This happened with an employer of mine. Checks cleared the bank for large amounts. We got images from the bank and the checks were to people we did not know, for huge amounts, but they were our checks, just "washed". Found out that the person we sent them to never received them because they had had their mail stolen.
I can't imagine not having my morning paper waiting for me to sit and read while I munch my bowl of cold cereal and then drink coffee. I read some items online throughout the day, as well as checking other news services online, but nothing beats handling a hard copy paper. Also, I love to do the puzzles. Don't like doing puzzles online. So, I don't anticipate ever giving up my paper, wherever I may be living.

I pay most bills online with online bill pay through my financial institution. However, one-time charges are best done with a check if you can't go to the place of business and pay with your card. A lot of businesses charge you extra to pay online or by telephone with your card. I write checks to renew my car tags because I refuse to pay avoidable fees.
Just my way of doing business. I don't criticize anyone else for doing things their way. Let's just be grateful we have choices, and money in the bank to pay bills with.

There is, no doubt, risk involved with using the mail for financial documents. However, there are also times when it is unavoidable. We had a situation this year with a deceased party's income taxes. That refund was not allowed to be direct deposited due to the way the check had to be made out for legal reasons. I had no choice in the matter.

It's quite disheartening to me to see how people get on the forum and use the anonymity to be rude and mean-spirited. Surely we are better than that.
quote:
Originally posted by DustinSmith:
quote:
Originally posted by unclegus:
Anyone who thinks 'snail mail' is a thing of the past has their head in the sand!


I imagine a beaver skin trader once said the same thing about the local bartering post.

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. Tell someone under the age of 30 that and watch them laugh at you.

quote:
Originally posted by unclegus:
Believe me, there is many people who still does not want anything to do with a computer or anything online. I know many myself!
You can call me backwards or what you wish but I am not stupid!


I also know plenty of racists, gay bashers, and religious nutcases. That doesn't mean these aren't dying breeds. And yes, judging by your grammar skills (or lack thereof) you are stupid.

Dustin


You're a dick head. Had your ass whooped lately?
quote:
Originally posted by Loki:
quote:
Originally posted by O No!:
Sorry Dustin, but I'm sure you still get SOME things, and send some things by snail mail. There are still companies who sell items on line and then SHIP them through the post office. My BANK even sends me my new box of checks through the mail. And even though I pay my utiliy bills through direct payment, they send me a statement every month through the mail. As a matter of fact, with the new requirements that you show proof of residence to get a driver's license renewed, they are asking you to bring utility bills.

Birthday cards, Christmas cards, long chatty letters from friends - none of those are quite as satisfying as a short email.

Hmmm...as convenient as digital photography is, there are a lot of us who prefer the higher quality available with 35mm cameras. There are still photo labs we can mail our film off to.

Some of us in business recieve checks, catalogs, and other correspondence through the mail.

Do I need to go on, or have you now seen how foolish your post is?


Replace checks with Checkcard.

Go green and replace all paper statements with electronic statements.

Digital Photography has gained leaps and bounds above 35mm. To get the same results with 35mm, you would need to be a skilled photographer that develops your own prints from start to end, knowing what is involved all along the way to make your photos turn out the same.

Use the websites of those companies you do business with to get their latest products, not those that were available only at the time of printing of the catalog that was snail mailed to you. It's the 21st century, any company that doesn't know how to use a computer will begin to lose business to those who do.

I'm not really sure who the fool is here, but I don't think it is Dustin. :P


And if I want to eat at a restaurant that doesn't take plastic--Bunyon's. Or buy a book from a store that doesn't take plastic? Or make my weekly contribution at church? Think, Dustin, think.
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Originally posted by Infomercial:

And if I want to eat at a restaurant that doesn't take plastic--Bunyon's.


The owner was dumb enough to name his business after a foot ailment. I'm not at all surprised to hear that this restaurant doesn't take credit/debit cards.

quote:
Originally posted by Infomercial:

Or make my weekly contribution at church? Think, Dustin, think.


I do think. That's why I don't give money to churches.

Dustin
quote:
Originally posted by DustinSmith:

The owner was dumb enough to name his business after a foot ailment.

Dustin


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quote:
Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
quote:
Originally posted by DustinSmith:

The owner was dumb enough to name his business after a foot ailment.

Dustin


Check the spelling before posting incorrect information.

bun·ion
   /ˈbʌnyən/ Show Spelled[buhn-yuhn] Show IPA
–noun Podiatry .
inflammation of the synovial bursa of the great toe, usually resulting in enlargement of the joint and lateral displacement of the toe.
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So would you object to naming your business "Fahggot's Diner?"

Get the point?

Dustin

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