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GOP Voter Disenfranchisement Wisconsin-Style: First Pass Voter ID; Then Limit Access To Comply

This story shows just how stupid neoconservatives think the public really is. Walker and his ilk pass a bill requiring voters to present valid photo identification at the polls. Then, in the same breath, Walker and his ilk propose a bill to close the identification issuing centers (the DMV’s) in the Democratic districts, making ID’s more difficult for low-income voters to obtain.

http://crooksandliars.com/karo...ement-wisconsin-styl

 

VIDEO: WI Citizen Jumps Through DMV Hoops To Get Photo ID In Order to Cast Legal Vote

Bank statement examined for 'activity'; 'Free' ID must be specifically 'requested' by voter, DOT official concedes to BRAD BLOG. 

DOT official tells BRAD BLOG procedure was improper, though concedes ID for voting must be 'requested' for $28 fee to be waived...

DMV Supervisor: 'They shouldn't even be doing any of it'...

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8626

 

 

 

 

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Fox News' Rick Leventhal reported live from the polling place where Black Panthers were allegedly intimidating voters Tuesday afternoon.

A University of Pennsylvania student reported that a Black Panther wielding a "night stick" intimidated voters at a polling place in Philadelphia (video below). The Black Panther allegedly claimed he was "tired of white supremacy."

When Leventhal went to investigate, he got into a confrontation with a Black Panther — a certified poll watcher — who denied the story and told Leventhal in no uncertain terms that he was not welcome at the polling place. Leventhal disputed his claims, citing election law which allows him to be within 10 feet of the entrance.

Leventhal could not confirm that the Black Panthers were on the scene intimidating voters, saying, "There's been no disturbances that I'm aware of, except what we've encountered here. But again, I want to make very clear, we don't know that any voters were denied entrance to this polling facility. We don't know that anyone was intimidated to the point that they decided not to vote here, but that was what some people were concerned might be happening with two Black Panthers, one of them holding a nightstick, out front."

 

Skippy

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Propie, I'll give you props for dreaming up silly controversies, so easy to shoot down!  Sure you aren't a Republican trying to embarass Democrats.  Of course, that's easy today!

 

First, anyone who's voted in the same precinct before won't be asked for ID.  Acceptable forms of  ID are:

        A current and valid Wisconsin driver license.

  • A current and valid Wisconsin identification card.
  • Any other official identification card or license issued by a Wisconsin governmental body or unit.
  • Any identification card issued by an employer in the normal course of business and bearing a photo of the card holder, but not including a business card.
  • A real estate tax bill or receipt for the current year or the year preceding the date of the election.
  • A residential lease which is effective for a period that includes election day (not for first-time voters registering by mail).
  • A university, college or technical institute fee card (must include photo).
  • A university, college or technical institute identification card (must include photo).
  • A gas, electric or telephone service statement (utility bill) for the period commencing not earlier than 90 days before election day.
  • Bank statement.
  • Paycheck.
  • A check or other document issued by a unit of government.

http://www.thedailypage.com/da...le.php?article=33575

 

Someone who doesn't have one of the above is probably an escaped felon or a mental patient, neither of whom should be voting.

 

Of course, provisional ballots will be available, as well!

 

The Republicans are on to the Democrats dirty game and they can't stand it.

 

Besides, last few times I heard of attempts to prevent votes from being counted, it was Democrats stopping soldiers absentee ballots from overseas.  Shameful!

 

Well you have to give it to the Republicans, they use tactics for voter suppression that are more of a  permanant nature and requires more than a picture of black panthers to intimide potential voters,    It is much more effective to achieve the intended results of alienating a voting block through rules than the presence of a few scary looking black men at a polling station.

 

These same tired old pics of panthers are used EVERY time by the republicans for ANY charge of voter suppression.  Nothing new to see here.

 

Just watch the recall election results in Wisconsin and the other states where the folly of electing the radical right teabaggers and the resulting calamity which has followed and then we can see if this although legal, deliberate act of voter suppression can be changed.  That and MANY expensive court cases.

 

You have to give it to the "rethugs", they may not wear black leather but they really know how to  intimidate.

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Jimi,

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Hans Finkelstein was a german chemist who although died in 1938 was NEVER a shop keeper.

 

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Originally Posted by skippy delepepper:

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Fox News' Rick Leventhal reported live from the polling place where Black Panthers were allegedly intimidating voters Tuesday afternoon.

A University of Pennsylvania student reported that a Black Panther wielding a "night stick" intimidated voters at a polling place in Philadelphia (video below). The Black Panther allegedly claimed he was "tired of white supremacy."

When Leventhal went to investigate, he got into a confrontation with a Black Panther — a certified poll watcher — who denied the story and told Leventhal in no uncertain terms that he was not welcome at the polling place. Leventhal disputed his claims, citing election law which allows him to be within 10 feet of the entrance.

Leventhal could not confirm that the Black Panthers were on the scene intimidating voters, saying, "There's been no disturbances that I'm aware of, except what we've encountered here. But again, I want to make very clear, we don't know that any voters were denied entrance to this polling facility. We don't know that anyone was intimidated to the point that they decided not to vote here, but that was what some people were concerned might be happening with two Black Panthers, one of them holding a nightstick, out front."

 

Skippy

 

 

One man's nightstick is another man's nightstick. 

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

Propie, I'll give you props for dreaming up silly controversies, so easy to shoot down!  Sure you aren't a Republican trying to embarass Democrats.  Of course, that's easy today!

 

First, anyone who's voted in the same precinct before won't be asked for ID.  

 

 

I didn't see that provision anywhere. The only provision for not having to show ID is if your address is confidential due to domestic abuse, etc. or you have been required to surrender your license to law enforcement, and in AB7 #1 below:

"1) the person has already provided a copy of his or her license or identification
card in connection with an absentee ballot cast at a previous election and has not
changed his or her name or address since that election ..."

 

These are the general provisions:

 

Voters who arrive at the polls without a photo ID will be allowed to vote; however their ballots will be considered provisional and could be tossed unless an ID is presented to the municipal clerk by the Friday following the election.

http://thirdcoastdigest.com/20...else-is-in-the-bill/

 

 

This is a portion of the printed bill:

 

2011 ASSEMBLY BILL 7, p.3

http://www.mygov365.com/legisl...500100/tab/versions/

 

With certain limited exceptions, this bill requires each eligible elector who
attempts to register or to vote at the polls on election day to present a valid Wisconsin
driver’s license issued to the person by the Department of Transportation (DOT), a
valid, current identification card issued to the person by a U.S. uniformed service,
or a valid Wisconsin identification card issued to the person by DOT or, if DOT
implements the provisions of the federal REAL ID Act, an identification certificate
issued to the person by DOT (see below). A person whose address is confidential as
a result of domestic abuse, sexual assault, or stalking or in certain cases a person who
has been required by a law enforcement officer to surrender his or her license (see
below) is exempted from the requirement. Under the bill, any person who applies
for an absentee ballot, except a military or overseas elector, as defined by federal law,
or a person whose address is confidential as a result of domestic abuse, sexual
assault, or stalking, must also provide a copy of the license or identification card,
unless: 1) the person has already provided a copy of his or her license or identification
card in connection with an absentee ballot cast at a previous election and has not
changed his or her name or address since that election; 2) the person has been
required by a law enforcement officer to surrender his or her license (see below); 3)
the person is indefinitely confined, in which case the person may submit a statement
signed by the person who witnesses his or her absentee ballot verifying his or her
identity; or 4) the person is an occupant of any nursing home, or is an occupant of a
community−based residential facility, retirement home, adult family home, or
residential care apartment complex where a municipality sends special voting
deputies, in which case the person may submit a statement signed by the deputies
verifying his or her identity.

(continues)

 

The final bill with markups, 2011 WISCONSIN ACT 23:

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/related/acts/23

 

5.02 (6m) "Identification" means any of the following documents issued to an individual:
(a) One of the following documents that is unexpired or if expired has expired after the date of the most recent general election:
1. An operator's license issued under ch. 343.
2. An identification card issued under s. 343.50.
3. An identification card issued by a U.S. uniformed service.
4. A U.S. passport.
(b) A certificate of U.S. naturalization that was issued not earlier than 2 years before the date of an election at which it is presented.
(c) An unexpired driving receipt under s. 343.11.
(d) An unexpired identification card receipt issued under s. 343.50.
(e) An identification card issued by a federally recognized Indian tribe in this state.
(f) An unexpired identification card issued by a university or college in this state that is accredited, as defined in s. 39.30 (1) (d), that contains the date of issuance and signature of the individual to whom it is issued and that contains an expiration date indicating that the card expires no later than 2 years after the date of issuance if the individual establishes that he or she is enrolled as a student at the university or college on the date that the card is presented.
 
That is all the acceptable forms of ID in the final bill. 
Last edited by The Propagandist
Originally Posted by interventor1212:

Propie, I'll give you props for dreaming up silly controversies, so easy to shoot down!  Sure you aren't a Republican trying to embarass Democrats.  Of course, that's easy today!

 

First, anyone who's voted in the same precinct before won't be asked for ID.  Acceptable forms of  ID are:

        A current and valid Wisconsin driver license.

  • A current and valid Wisconsin identification card.
  • Any other official identification card or license issued by a Wisconsin governmental body or unit.
  • Any identification card issued by an employer in the normal course of business and bearing a photo of the card holder, but not including a business card.
  • A real estate tax bill or receipt for the current year or the year preceding the date of the election.
  • A residential lease which is effective for a period that includes election day (not for first-time voters registering by mail).
  • A university, college or technical institute fee card (must include photo).
  • A university, college or technical institute identification card (must include photo).
  • A gas, electric or telephone service statement (utility bill) for the period commencing not earlier than 90 days before election day.
  • Bank statement.
  • Paycheck.
  • A check or other document issued by a unit of government.

http://www.thedailypage.com/da...le.php?article=33575

 

Someone who doesn't have one of the above is probably an escaped felon or a mental patient, neither of whom should be voting.

 

Of course, provisional ballots will be available, as well!

 

The Republicans are on to the Democrats dirty game and they can't stand it.

 

Besides, last few times I heard of attempts to prevent votes from being counted, it was Democrats stopping soldiers absentee ballots from overseas.  Shameful!

 

 

Paychecks, utility bills, etc may be acceptable forms of ID only for the July 12 recall elections.

 

Read closer and the article states:

 

Some, but not all, of the new voter ID rules will be in effect for the first recall elections, which will be held July 12.

...

You don't need a photo ID to vote in the July 12 elections; however, a poll worker will likely ask you to present one when you vote. If you don't have one, you will not be turned away. Instead, you'll be reminded that an ID will be required the next time you vote.

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