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You all may know of or heard of a company here or there that from time to time mistreats an employee or two. I am almost POSITIVE if you ever talk much about local employment you have and will here of the environment at a local company called American Wholesale Book Company. The TOP company for turn over employees. NO one will stay with this company for more than a week to month at a time. Lets get further into this subject and devulge some of the nasty truth about this company! If Times Dailey isn't scared of being called out or sued you will soon know why this company gets its bad rep and why I would contiously caution others to stay away.

My Wife who I will leave un-named has worked at AWBC for 6+ years. She has always been on time and give it her all with this company. AS she does with ANY company she has worked at prior. This winter storm AWBC really set the bar for sleez treatment of their employees. They made it perfectly CLEAR they have no concern, sympathy or moral concsious of the well being of their employees old or new! On Sunday evening my wife expressed great concern about the winter storm comming our way and she knew that with all the chatter things might get bad enough that travel would most likely become limited and this being EXTREMELY true where we live, a few miles off of county road 8 near the Tennesee line where we get most of the brutal end of storms for some reason. So she called up her supervisor and asked her what AWBC's expectations would be for their workers. Her supervisor told her that things would persist in the normal fashion at the moment and if she needed to leave early to make it in on time. My wife tried to thorouly explain that we live back in a VERY rural area and if it ices and snowes travel is impossible without risking self harm and damage to our vehicles and others that may be attempting to travel. The responce from her supervisor was " OH WELL YOU KNOW THE RULES AND I CAN'T CHANGE THEM FOR YOU"! My wife then tried to ask if the supervisor would ask head managment if she would get an accurance or written up if she could not make it in due to weather. With the return phone call the answer was YES! My wife started getting upset thinking about what may happen if things got to bad and stayed bad for any length of time meaning days. Well the snow got bad where we live a whopping 8 inches and sure enough no travel was possible. To our supprise AWBC did close on Monday but No empoyees were called. We found out only by going to WHNT business closings. Well Monday night my wife called her lead "which is the assistant to the supervisor" and asked what AWBC's expectations were for Tuesday. The leads reply was "be at work by ten o clock in the morning". My wife explained that we were snowed in and that the road was a solid sheet of ice where the farmers had taken tractors and drove the road to get to their cattle. They simply packed the snow and with a tid bit of melting turning it into hard ICE. The lead was just confused and told her the main roads were somewhat passable and to do what she needed to do. My wife called AWBC that Tuesday morning to let them know she could not make it. After letting them know her situation she was informed that ninety percent of the people were not there but they were still going to give accurances for not showing up and a get out of jail free card or "FREE ACCURANCE" was given to the onese that did. My wife started to tear up asking "what am I going to do these roads are going to be a mess for a few days as the temprature is not going to make it out of the twenties"? I just told her as long as she is safe thats all that matters and another job can be found. I HOPE!!! My wife did not go into work Tuesday and the roads did clear up some but quickly refroze into black ice that night.
Wednesday morning TODAY she was determined to try to get to work as she was afraid that she would get into more trouble with AWBC. From our past experiences and that is MANY AWBC does not care what your situation is. They will write you up and fire you no matter how long you have been there or what type of worker you are if you can not make it to work for any reason or late you will get diciplined, written up and after so many your fired. Well after barely making it out of the drive and sliding into the ditch "thank god for trucks" she pulled out and was off to work. She called me about fifteen minutes later all freaked out. She had just slid sideways down a hill and out into an intersection on the Natchez Trace on the route to work. Thank God no cars were coming! I know the hill well and it is about fifty feet from the top to bottom. I asked her if she was OK and she said she was. I then asked if the truck was fine and she replied everthing was ok. She proceeded to tell me she was going to try to make it the rest of the way. I said OK and my wife was off to temp luck once more. She did call me from work telling me she was ther fine and that she would call me close to quiting time. This brings back memories of the time when we had all the tornadoes come through the cloverdale/ petersville area and do all that damage. AWBC plays subscribed music on the loud speaker. With the conveyeurs running carring the totes and boxes over the wareshouse it is LOUD so it is nearly impossible to hear anyway. I called and told my wife that a tornadoe warning was in effect and was moving that way. She needed to take cover and warn everyone. She came home telling me that AWBC turned off the radio so people could not hear the warnings. Later it was said that it kept the workers from panicing and they were watching the weather outside. They just simply kept everyone working. My wife took cover in the bathroom until it was over. Six employee cars were damaged in their parking lot that day and could have meant their life. Lucky I came home because the kids got out early due to weather. I just wonder what situation it would be if my wife was a single mother like many that work out there?

Ok here is my questions AWBC! DID my wife really have to put her life and well being in danger for a whole 8 bucks an hour??? Just because the economy is in a hole, jobs are none existent, our houses and lifes depends on that eight bucks, does this make you grin that you know you can demand anything you want from your employees? Is your profits really worth employees putting there person and belongings at risk of loss or damage for you? It seems that AWBC's tactic or management outline is much like what businesses had before the industrial revolution. They stiff brow and could care less if you stay or not. They hope you don't. AWBC has the highest hire, fire, quit rate in the shoals area and possibly in north Alabama. Most jobs within the company any ten year old could do and thus less than a days training and your good. They will hire anybody that puts in an application. Known sex offenders no problem! They just make them post there picture on the bulletin board that no body reads. The picture states their crime, just like the picture you recieve in the mail if an offender moves to your neigborhood. No employee is warned of this criminal in their work force. MY WIFES lead was on the cover of Hard Times in the Shoals and was eventually fired for drinking on the job for christs sake. See if AWBC keeps the ball rolling with fresh people comming in, the pay rate stays at minimum wage and no insurance is dealt out, no vacation is dealt out, no incentive bonus is dealt out. All the things AWBC boasts about. I am sure there are many more finacial perks to the turn over. See thats another thing. Depending on the amount of stock you get out a day/hour you get a percent rating for your department and due to your percent you get what they call an incentive bonus. That pecent your department recieves for that month is what your bonus for that month will be. Lets say you made a total of 1200 dollar that month in paychecks. If your department gets five percent ouput for that month you will get a five percent off your total wages for that month in a incentive bonus. WAIT if you get three accurnaces you get NO INCENTIVE so yeah they are GONNA deal those accurances out for people that CAN'T GET INTO WORK BECAUSE THE ROADS ARE ICE. You see how they work. So if you are thinging on or know ANYONE who is thinking about working for this company DON'T!! Drive an hour to work out of town before you work for this company! Trust me you will thank yourself you didn't. If you don't beleive me then go for it. Maybe you can add to my article here later on! I will reply to questions here in this thread. I can and will give further examples and incedents if asked. There are PLENTY so go ahead and ask. Thank you for reading and I hope this gets TONS of traffic. Helping keep Florence informed and hope you all take up the trend!
Thanks,
A concerned husband!
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Great southern wood preserving should be at the top of the list also.This company has had hundreds of employees quit or be fired also.They make people stand in the rain and work,no breaks never let you stop a moment to catch your breath.If your break one of their rules you are punished by getting to do a crap job! Yella Fella can kiss my ass!
Hmm... That's what happens in a "right-to-work" state.

You're completely at the mercy of the company.
I live just down the road a ways from you and
I sympathize with you and your wife. I've been there. I used to live in the northeast where this kind of weather lasts 6 months or more.

The place I work at was real bad too when I got there. (Favoritism/theft/incompetence, etc) Not so much anymore.

Sounds like she and her fellow employees could stand to get organized with a good labor union.

It's nice to have a lil' clout.

http://www.teamsterslocal402.org/
Joe Gronek-Business Agent

Show 'em how it's done. Wink
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I read your lengthy post and wanted to make a few suggestions. Is there not anyone closer to town you could stay with for a coupkle of days? Anyone with a 4 wheel drive that would loan it to you? And I figured is you live near the state line and know you always get the bad weather, why you don't already own one.

That said, I was going to suggest you go get a motel in town for a few nights, but at 8 bucks an hour, it hardly seems worth it.
It is unfortunate companies act this way.
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Originally posted by Road Puppy:
Hey Gus..Don'tcha know four wheel drive is twice as useless on ice?

Nothin' like all four wheels spinnin' outta control.

Us Swamp Yankees like to have those two non-driven wheels freed up for at least some semblance of steering. As 'rudders' anyway.


I got a kawasaki 4 wheel drive mule, I spent part of the day monday helping to pull folks out of the ditch and give rides to the grocery store. My 4 wheel drive worked fine.
Yes your right the Andersons do own this company. They are some how tied on to Books a Million. The Andersons own SEVERAL businesses here in the Florence area such as TNT, Dalmation Press, AWBC and the list can continue. From what I have heard the poor management plays in everthing they touch. Funny they are so big. Something has to be pretty dirty in that ring somehow but we'll never know until we read this ole Times Daily.
I am thinking on starting a site where people can go and write annonymous articles on the companies they work for to inform all other residents in the area looking at that place for potitial employement. Maybe that will put some DO RIGHT in their coffe. That or land me with a nice little court case LOL...

Well, I would have driven her but I had to stay home with the kids as I am self employed and can over time make up for time lost. Even though I am struggling to make ends meet I think I can make up for it. I have to travel pretty far distances so I wont chance it. I just hope she makes it home fine this afternoon or night. I talked to her and she said they worked the few people that came in yesterday till 7PM last night. Probably will be no different today. I hope the sun clears most of this off. I am gonna be a nervous wreck till she is home.
Thanks for reading and hope you encourage other to read as well! If anyone would like to hear more of the nonsence that goes on at this company, I would be more than happy to oblige. If you have more to tell yourself about another company please chime in like the gentleman about lumber company. Maybe we can start a informative thread that others can look upon to edjucate themselves about prospective employement in these hard times.
Thanks all,
Proud American



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Yep that is the dilema! My wife makes eight bucks an hour and I do good to clear 350 a week. NOW try to pay a 746 dollar mortgage pay a 250 dollar light bill. By sky rocket high groceries to feed My wife, I and two children plus pay for insurance on the cars. Buy gas to drive 45 mins to town or to work. With me I drive a lot with my work so expense kind of burns me with my pay. After all is said and done we count pennies.
We don't have cable, we are still on dial up 9 dollar internet and we still eat bologna sometimes for supper. LOL I can honestly say I feel the recession. Your all right companies like this should have to pay for how they treat their employees. They only use the pressure of losing the job over their employees heads.

Yep so no motel for us and if one of us loses our job then we are in some real hot water. The buying a 4X4 is a good idea. I do own an atv and that can get me out in case of emergency but not far distances. Thank you all again for reading and responding.
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LOL...Dig all the southern folk who've been shut down for days on account of a piddly 8" of snow telling the New England Swamp Yankee how to drive on ice.. LOLOLOL. Smiler

I said ice, guys. Not snow or slush. Sheet ice such as you get on bridges or places where snowmelt has refrozen.

Go drive your Mule or your pickup on a frozen pond or parking lot that has sheeted over with black ice and lemme know how that works out for ya. Wink
I worked on the Andersons for many years. Yeah I earned every dime they paid me. The sad news is there is a supply of cheap labor and if you don't like it, there will be someone else there to take that job. Maybe you need to consider a move to somewhere more centrally located if your wife plans to stay there. BTW, I co-authored the "occurence program." Sorry for your luck!
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Originally posted by junior samples:
If you had grew up in the south like most of us you might be more understanding.Prehaps since your a mis-placed yankee you might feel more at home if you went back north Billy Yank! Welcome to the south! Love it or leave it!



Yeah, I expected that from ya, Johnny.

But I know when it comes down to it-that's really all ya got.
I spent my childhood formative years down here and in the hills of West Virginia.
Wasn't picking on southerners. Y'all are just SO SENSITIVE! LOL.

Ya wanna buy me a ticket outta this broke-ass state? I get one myself but I'm too busy tryna make enough money just to afford to drive my front wheel drive car to work around all the stuck-in-the-ditch four wheel drives Smiler

Dude....I practiced riding my motorcycle on frozen lakes so I could ride through icy 1/2 year long northeast winters. (Just in case ya can't grasp the concept-That's A ONE WHEEL DRIVE, SINGLE-TRACK VEHICLE, SPARKY. Wink )

There ain't nothin' ya can tell me about driving on ice.
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Originally posted by junior samples:
If you had grew up in the south like most of us you might be more understanding.Prehaps since your a mis-placed yankee you might feel more at home if you went back north Billy Yank! Welcome to the south! Love it or leave it!


Lol JR, I never knew a yankee that didn't know it all, seen it all, and did it all.
This reminds me of a conversation heard on the CB shortly after I moved back here.

A guy from Tennessee had apparently had some bad business dealing with a guy from my neighborhood here in Alabama.

The guy in Tennessee decided to lock his mic key down and launch a tirade against the guy in Alabama. He went on for HOURS. He was really good, too. Up one side of the 'Bama guy and down the other. Left no turn unstoned. Having listened to New Yorkers berate idiots for years (They're downright brutal), I was very impressed.

Every so often he would unkey his mic to hear what the 'Bama guy would say in reply.

All the 'Bama guy could come up with was "Y-y-y-y-y-y-......YOU JUST SHUT UP!" (A la Roscoe P. Coltrane from Dukes Of Hazzard.)


It was very disappointing.

Kinda like the stock southern reply of "Yankee go home."

I expect it.
It's un-original.
It's completely lame.

All I did was contribute my thoughts on ice driving from 30 years of experience where it's icy most of the year. Ya'd think I might possibly know what I'm talking about, eh? As usual, YOU drew first blood.

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Proud American: A couple of thoughts on your post. First of all, the employment issue is not limited to American Wholesale. Actually it is the "Florence Mentality". This little town is geared up for 2 things: Una or retirement! If you notice the industrial park is really almost empty. Then you will notice the same names relative to employment. Anderson,Darby,Cook,they run what little is here! And of course if you talk to any of these guys they will tell you"I got all the cards"! This is a right to work state, The industrial park is empty, I don't have to treat you better, the turn over does not affect my bank account,I don't have to pay you more, in short it seems true that they have all the cards! I worked for 1 of these guys for 3 years. Hell on earth! Something for nothing is the motto! Now I have my own project! Much better! You need to do the same. Create your own thing and get away from this mind set! As for the rent thing you are paying to much!! It's too high for the area! My mortgage is $295.00 @ month. Make this adjustment as soon as possible. If you are willing to make a few changes then this is a great place to live! Good Luck!
Just a contrary thought folks: in this life, you get out of it exactly what you put into it. if you are in school thinking about dropping out, this is a good example of hat can happen to you. if you are out of school, you can go back and finish up.

whatever the case, it seems a little obscene to whine about unfair treatment when so many are completely without jobs.

yes, capitalism is sometimes cruel and unforgiving. but the true believers in the system do not have to take the cruelty. they can grow some 'nads and do something on their own or they can continue to wallow in self pity while "the man" sticks it to you.

i would not have it any other way.
I worked for the Harold Anderson at Anco/Anco Collectors/Treat/Treat Entertainment I think I named all the names they changed to in the 7 long and stressful years in the 90's that I worked there.

I to had to have my job to survive and try to make ends meet on what I was paid I started out at min wage and when I walked out I was making $6.50 an hour with the job title of Administrative assistant to the Plant manager..LOL.. who was a joke.There were associates that were new hires that worked in the warehouse that were hired in making more money than I was. the Anderson dont care about no one but them selves and how much money they can make.

The moto was Associates come a dime a dozen all we had to do is call up one of many temp services we used and we could have ever how many people we needed. I seen many come and go from this company. I stayed 7 years thinking it would get better WELL it did not it only got worse.Walking out and leaving that place was the BEST thing I ever did.
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Originally posted by Unobtanium:

Just a contrary thought folks: in this life, you get out of it exactly what you put into it. if you are in school thinking about dropping out, this is a good example of hat can happen to you. if you are out of school, you can go back and finish up.

whatever the case, it seems a little obscene to whine about unfair treatment when so many are completely without jobs.

yes, capitalism is sometimes cruel and unforgiving. but the true believers in the system do not have to take the cruelty. they can grow some 'nads and do something on their own or they can continue to wallow in self pity while "the man" sticks it to you.


Yeah you right!

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Originally posted by riverrat1199:
Hang in there Pup,the buses are ready to roll tomorrow I hope.


Yup, 'rat. Just got the call from my dispatcher-Florence city schools are open tomorrow after a 2-hour delay.

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Originally posted by Junior Samples:
My worst night-mare Road Puppy....Your a red-neck yankee!



Yup! LOL! Up in the northwest mountains of Connecticut we're known as "Swamp Yankees" Big Grin

Kinda like West Virginia hillbillies only with some Maine-style crazy and New Yorker 'tude mixed in. Wink
Well, looks likes the cat is out of the bag. I talked to my wife this afternoon at about 2 seems the whole plant is now raving about this thread on Times Daily! The scare tactic is NOW IN FULL FORCE. THOU SHALT NOT DEVULGE THE CORUPT AND POOR MANAGEMENT WITHIN THE COMPANY policy is in full force! Co workers, leads and supervisors are now advising employees of the policy that no employees can talk about the happenings within the company on public domains such as Facebook, Myspace and any other public spoken forum. They are ALL being reminded that their job may rely on it. I guess I have narrowed the possibilities of the culprit by my admissions in my first post but I have to say there is NO deframation to ANY of the text. EVERY breath of it is true!

My wife and any other that contributes to letting the truth be known will most likely be fired and I know it will be by my instigation of facts in my posts on this board. I kind of pray for it as then we can sink or float! Either way my wife can move on with her life in a better work environment where at least her life and well being may be taken into SOME consideration!! I hold NO allegiance to that sorry excuse for a business!! I am the one that is writing this text! My wife did not coerce me into writting nor did anyone else! I will continue to let the public know of your tactics AWBC and any other that puts my family at risk!

All we are asking is that you as a company drop your concentration on profits for just a second to realize we all have families and loved ones that we want to be safe and work in a safe environment under competent management. Our family and friends already gives up the majority of their life 8+ hours a day working for your company not knowing at what time they are to get off work and return to their family for minimum wage or close to. All this under SLOP POOR MANAGEMENT and you can't even show the concerene in emergency situations.

I hope this does make it big and I hope it makes the paper!! I hope this ends up in every freaking home in northern alabama! Maybe then it will open some eyes and get people treated RIGHT!

GOD BLESS FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
PROUD AMERECAN!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by proud american:
Well, looks likes the cat is out of the bag. I talked to my wife this afternoon at about 2 seems the whole plant is now raving about this thread on Times Daily! The scare tactic is NOW IN FULL FORCE. THOU SHALT NOT DEVULGE THE CORUPT AND POOR MANAGEMENT WITHIN THE COMPANY policy is in full force! Co workers, leads and supervisors are now advising employees of the policy that no employees can talk about the happenings within the company on public domains such as Facebook, Myspace and any other public spoken forum. They are ALL being reminded that their job may rely on it. I guess I have narrowed the possibilities of the culprit by my admissions in my first post but I have to say there is NO deframation to ANY of the text. EVERY breath of it is true!

My wife and any other that contributes to letting the truth be known will most likely be fired and I know it will be by my instigation of facts in my posts on this board. I kind of pray for it as then we can sink or float! Either way my wife can move on with her life in a better work environment where at least her life and well being may be taken into SOME consideration!! I hold NO allegiance to that sorry excuse for a business!! I am the one that is writing this text! My wife did not coerce me into writting nor did anyone else! I will continue to let the public know of your tactics AWBC and any other that puts my family at risk!

All we are asking is that you as a company drop your concentration on profits for just a second to realize we all have families and loved ones that we want to be safe and work in a safe environment under competent management. Our family and friends already gives up the majority of their life 8+ hours a day working for your company not knowing at what time they are to get off work and return to their family for minimum wage or close to. All this under SLOP POOR MANAGEMENT and you can't even show the concerne in emergency situations.

I hope this does make it big and I hope it makes the paper!! I hope this ends up in every freaking home in northern alabama! Maybe then it will open some eyes and get people treated RIGHT!

GOD BLESS FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
PROUD AMERECAN!!!!!!!!
It has nothing to do with SELF pitty or whining about the situation. I call it letting the truth be known to the public. If that would be against poupular beleif then we should never turn on the news or be here at Times Daily. We should never whine when a ten year old is shot and it is announced to let others know. I am simply advising and edjucating OTHERS of the real happings here in the shoals by local employment. Maybe it will make a differnce maybe it will not. All I can say is I did what I though I needed to do to let others know the real truth! Thanks guys for reading and if you approve what I am doing then please let others know and urge them to ADD to this thread!!

Thanks again,
Proud American!
Good luck to you and your wife.
I know what you are saying is true because I worked for the same company several years ago. It upsets me to know that employers have such little regard for their employee's safety.

Please keep us informed of your wife's employment status. I am willing to boycott BAM if she is dismissed from her job because of your post. Perhaps others will consider doing the same thing.
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Proud American, you have no idea how miserable this company can make their employees. I worked for them for many years, and cannot be fired for telling the truth, as I am no longer an employee. I actually totalled my car going to work in the snow because it was mandatory, even though the roads were all officially 'closed' and the police wouldn't even come out to file an accident report. I will say, however, that the Andersons have a great deal of power and respect here, and your efforts will probably be for naught. When I left there, it was as though the weight of the world had been lifted off my shoulders. You don't realize how bad it is because it builds and gets worse and worse over time, but I would advise anyone who still works there that there are many better ways to earn a living, not that you can really earn a living there.
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Originally posted by *SaltyDog*:
Road Puppy, I hope that one day you'll be back where you're happy again. I know what you're feeling.


Thanks, Dog. Me too, but it seems at the moment that I just gotta hang in there and make the best of it. I'm here now. So be it. I just gotta keep reminding myself that there's a reason I left my home and a reason I came back here.

It sho' am is culture shock, though. Nothing like I remembered from when I was a kid here in the 70s.

Best of luck to you and your wife, Proud American. Smiler

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