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"Today's world" being decadant has been a theme as long as there has been writing. Julius Caesar tried to hustle the electorate of Rome into believing he was restoring the "Golden Age" of the Republic under his great uncle Marius. Augustus did the same, claiming that his own great uncle, Julius was struck down before the work was finished to restore to a mythic moral land of Cincinnatus and Marius.

The ancient Greeks taught that there was first a golden age, then a silver one, then a bronze and now theirs of iron, each metal getting less rare as they went on in time. The Jewish mythic legend has Eden and "giants in those days, heroes of old", followed by everything was falling to pot with the boogie woogie and air conditioned tents when they had to give up herding sand for fun and profit to farm and live in houses. Bill Gray has a Puritan fetish, for example, not realizing that they were terrible people as both individuals and group given to silly superstition, class distinctions we would today shudder at and an affinity for the ale mug.
It is the flip side of the "the countryside is moral and the city filled with sin" sermon. If Lot had only left himself and his slaves and women folk and wife and sheep under Abe's care and not run off to Mankato . . .er . . . Sodom . . . Mankato was Mary Ingalls.
This all began when ,the now banned, "46:1" began admitting to and advocating verbal and physical violence against gays in another thread. When I told him that he could be arrested for verbally or physically attacking ANYONE, his response was "not if I don't get caught." There was no mistaking his intent. I copied his remarks to file and notified the moderators. He then claimed "descrimination" and found a cheerleader in "tnt5862" who defended the remarks and went on a rant of his own."46:1" then started this thread to try and enlist Bill Gray's assistance. He lied and denied his remarks (which I posted verbatim)and continued his psychotic ramblings.Fortunately Bill and everyone else rejected violence in any form against anyone. We must, in no uncertain terms, reject violence and report such language when appropriate. Fortunately we live in a society where we are allowed to like, love or dislike anyone we wish. No one is forced to "agree" with anyone else. What is required of us is civility and respect of ones right to exist - its called "the law" and everyone is protected by it, not just the people we like and agree with.
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
This all began when ,the now banned, "46:1" began admitting to and advocating verbal and physical violence against gays in another thread. When I told him that he could be arrested for verbally or physically attacking ANYONE, his response was "not if I don't get caught." There was no mistaking his intent. I copied his remarks to file and notified the moderators. He then claimed "descrimination" and found a cheerleader in "tnt5862" who defended the remarks and went on a rant of his own."46:1" then started this thread to try and enlist Bill Gray's assistance. He lied and denied his remarks (which I posted verbatim)and continued his psychotic ramblings.Fortunately Bill and everyone else rejected violence in any form against anyone. We must, in no uncertain terms, reject violence and report such language when appropriate. Fortunately we live in a society where we are allowed to like, love or dislike anyone we wish. No one is forced to "agree" with anyone else. What is required of us is civility and respect of ones right to exist - its called "the law".


GIVE ME A BREAK !!!! Cheerleading ? I made one comment in that thread ,,dont go staring rumors on me mean..... Mad

And Im not a " he " thank you very much and I have told you this more than once ,,,,I am not gay ,dont intend to turn gay . Dont have to like them . Didnt say one word about them . And did not go on a rant ,
all I ask 46;1 was why he couldnt voice his opinion here just as others do . Roll Eyes
Female - got ya dear. You just sounded so masculine. My bad.

One does not "turn gay" and no one suspected that you were gay. In addition, no one cares if you like or dislike anyone. So relax, your right of association, or free speech is not infringed upon.

Perhaps you should have explored the post a bit more before you assumed that "46:1" was banned simply for not supporting homosexuals (voicing his opinion). He had advocated VIOLENCE, both physical and verbal. THAT is why his posts were removed and why he was banned. If you have any doubt of that fact - read the post at the beginning of this thread. I posted it verbatim.
Reading all of this stuff just reminds me of why I turned away from organized religion. Everybody just seemed to be looking for somebody else to "feel better than" whether it be a non-christian, a different race, a homosexual, or just the guy who liked to party on Saturday and go to church on Sunday. For the most part, they preach one thing and practice something else. I feel much closer to God when I am alone in the woods or sitting with a group of people who believe we are all God's kids and He alone has the right to "parent" us. It disgusts me when I see how much we "hurt" each other in the name of "God". It disgusts me more to see one seeking to empower themselves by professing to know the will of God or to interpret His messages to suit their own purposes. If you think that means I'm going to Hell, Bill, you may be surprised. I fell as confirmed in my convictions as you feel in yours. So how do you explain that? But I don't go around trying to make everybody else think the way I do. I believe that God will lead each one of us to where He wants us to be for His purposes, of which we know nothing but He knows everything. So why not just let Him run the show? The best teaching a person can do is through their example...the way they lead their own life. I choose to follow those who turly show love to one another, regardless of any behavior they may exhibit. I don't have to accept or approve that behavior but neither do I need to condemn the person. I don't know everything that has happened to that person since the day they were born or before...so how can I possibly have enough information to determine whether they should go to Heaven or Hell? But God does, so he alone should judge that. If you are seeking to convert people to God's ways, then perhaps you might consider looking within yourself, because that is where you will find Him. But you will not find HIm if you seek to Be Him.
I am writing this only to let you know how your "writings" are affecting me and possibly a lot of others. If you truly wish to do God's work, you need to be aware of when you may be doing more harm than good. And that goes to some of the ones who have answered you as well, not just you.
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Originally posted by NotFeelingSafeInAmerica:
Reading all of this stuff just reminds me of why I turned away from organized religion. Everybody just seemed to be looking for somebody else to "feel better than" whether it be a non-christian, a different race, a homosexual, or just the guy who liked to party on Saturday and go to church on Sunday. For the most part, they preach one thing and practice something else. I feel much closer to God when I am alone in the woods or sitting with a group of people who believe we are all God's kids and He alone has the right to "parent" us. It disgusts me when I see how much we "hurt" each other in the name of "God". It disgusts me more to see one seeking to empower themselves by professing to know the will of God or to interpret His messages to suit their own purposes. If you think that means I'm going to Hell, Bill, you may be surprised. I fell as confirmed in my convictions as you feel in yours. So how do you explain that? But I don't go around trying to make everybody else think the way I do. I believe that God will lead each one of us to where He wants us to be for His purposes, of which we know nothing but He knows everything. So why not just let Him run the show? The best teaching a person can do is through their example...the way they lead their own life. I choose to follow those who turly show love to one another, regardless of any behavior they may exhibit. I don't have to accept or approve that behavior but neither do I need to condemn the person. I don't know everything that has happened to that person since the day they were born or before...so how can I possibly have enough information to determine whether they should go to Heaven or Hell? But God does, so he alone should judge that. If you are seeking to convert people to God's ways, then perhaps you might consider looking within yourself, because that is where you will find Him. But you will not find HIm if you seek to Be Him.
I am writing this only to let you know how your "writings" are affecting me and possibly a lot of others. If you truly wish to do God's work, you need to be aware of when you may be doing more harm than good. And that goes to some of the ones who have answered you as well, not just you.


Awesome reply NFS.

I don't know that it will do any good, but I hope it does. I've tried telling, Bill, the same thing, in so many ways, and it has always been ignored.

I feel much the same way that you do, and believe much the same way as well. I just noticed that you are new too, so welcome to the forum.

~Amanda
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
Female - got ya dear. You just sounded so masculine. My bad.

One does not "turn gay" and no one suspected that you were gay. In addition, no one cares if you like or dislike anyone. So relax, your right of association, or free speech is not infringed upon.

Perhaps you should have explored the post a bit more before you assumed that "46:1" was banned simply for not supporting homosexuals (voicing his opinion). He had advocated VIOLENCE, both physical and verbal. THAT is why his posts were removed and why he was banned. If you have any doubt of that fact - read the post at the beginning of this thread. I posted it verbatim.


I sound masculine ? how in the world do you tell how I sound by the words I type ? Your just full of it mean .
And Im sure some on here dont care for your opinion either on here . Your always the same ,,if someone says something you dont like then you blast them . You sure got the right username . Wink

I dont need to explore the post more ,,I only came in this thread to defend what YOU said about me being his cheerleader and ranting !!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont care if he is banned or not ,,I didnt even say a word about him being banned did I ?
I have no doubt about anything except you mean . now get off me and leave me alone . Carry on with your thread but leave peoples name out of it except for your own name ok ? Roll Eyes
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Ummmm.......Well, actually posts can have a gender specific tone. That really doesn't matter now does it?

I asked you if you supported violence in another thread and you declined to answer. I am still curious - do you, like all the rest of us condemn violence against ALL individuals? This would include gays and lesbians?

You posted this in another thread meanasasnake.

"I still am a big advocate for personal protection. If anyone feels threatened they certainly have the right to defend themselves in any manner neccessary. I suggest calling the cops if you have time. If not do what ever it takes to protect youself. Perhaps a gun training class would be in order. Almost anyone can obtain a license to own a firearm."


Who exactly were you talking to?

And I agree, there isn't a thing they can do about us!
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Posted 29 April 2008 02:06 PM Hide Post


The post below was a question for Tnt5862.

Ummmm.......Well, actually posts can have a gender specific tone. That really doesn't matter now does it?

I asked you if you supported violence in another thread and you declined to answer. I am still curious - do you, like all the rest of us condemn violence against ALL individuals? This would include gays and lesbians?

You posted this in another thread meanasasnake.

The post below was directed to "46:1". I posted it because of some threatening language that had been posted.

"I still am a big advocate for personal protection. If anyone feels threatened they certainly have the right to defend themselves in any manner neccessary. I suggest calling the cops if you have time. If not do what ever it takes to protect youself. Perhaps a gun training class would be in order. Almost anyone can obtain a license to own a firearm."


Who exactly were you talking to?

And I agree, there isn't a thing they can do about us!


I am a straight woman - but you are right, gay people have just as much right to exist as anyone else. Not a thing anyone can do about that fact.
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I am a straight woman - but you are right, gay people have just as much right to exist as anyone else. Not a thing anyone can do about that fact.


I am sooo glad too, you are so zooshy.

But you didn't answer my question. Who were you talking to in this statement>

""I still am a big advocate for personal protection. If anyone feels threatened they certainly have the right to defend themselves in any manner neccessary. I suggest calling the cops if you have time. If not do what ever it takes to protect youself. Perhaps a gun training class would be in order. Almost anyone can obtain a license to own a firearm.""
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I am a straight woman - but you are right, gay people have just as much right to exist as anyone else. Not a thing anyone can do about that fact.


I am sooo glad too, you are so zooshy.

But you didn't answer my question. Who were you talking to in this statement>

""I still am a big advocate for personal protection. If anyone feels threatened they certainly have the right to defend themselves in any manner neccessary. I suggest calling the cops if you have time. If not do what ever it takes to protect youself. Perhaps a gun training class would be in order. Almost anyone can obtain a license to own a firearm.""


Actually it was a statement directed at anyone who feels threatened. I would not normally suggest that anyone rush out and buy a gun, but if someone is threatening you and you have no other option, go for it. Take a gun safety class. Some police departments offer such classes, and there are also private schools recommended by gun dealers and law enforcement. The post was in response to a "suspended" user "46:1". Hes probably lurking about us at this very moment.
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
Ummmm.......Well, actually posts can have a gender specific tone. That really doesn't matter now does it?

I asked you if you supported violence in another thread and you declined to answer. I am still curious - do you, like all the rest of us condemn violence against ALL individuals? This would include gays and lesbians?


If I didnt answer you its because I didnt go back in the thread and see the question .

No ,I dont support violence . I dont think gays should be hit on because of the partner the pick either . But I still dont have to like them , I wont go hitting on one ,but I wont lay down with one either .lol Im not a violent person .
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
Ummmm.......Well, actually posts can have a gender specific tone. That really doesn't matter now does it?

I asked you if you supported violence in another thread and you declined to answer. I am still curious - do you, like all the rest of us condemn violence against ALL individuals? This would include gays and lesbians?


If I didnt answer you its because I didnt go back in the thread and see the question .

No ,I dont support violence . I dont think gays should be hit on because of the partner the pick either . But I still dont have to like them , I wont go hitting on one ,but I wont lay down with one either .lol Im not a violent person .


Thanks! No one has to like anyone. Of course if you don't know who they sleep with - you might like em anyway.
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Originally posted by tnt5862:
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
Ummmm.......Well, actually posts can have a gender specific tone. That really doesn't matter now does it?

I asked you if you supported violence in another thread and you declined to answer. I am still curious - do you, like all the rest of us condemn violence against ALL individuals? This would include gays and lesbians?


If I didnt answer you its because I didnt go back in the thread and see the question .

No ,I dont support violence . I dont think gays should be hit on because of the partner the pick either . But I still dont have to like them , I wont go hitting on one ,but I wont lay down with one either .lol Im not a violent person .


Thanks! No one has to like anyone. Of course if you don't know who they sleep with - you might like em anyway.


Well over here in ga. I do know some gays and I do like them very much ,,they are always fun to be around . Wink

I just guess Im old fashion in the sence that Its not my cup of tea . Big Grin Not to mention what God said about it .
Well over here in ga. I do know some gays and I do like them very much ,,they are always fun to be around . Wink

I just guess Im old fashion in the sence that Its not my cup of tea . Big Grin Not to mention what God said about it .[/QUOTE]

I think God can take care of situations where God thinks someone is out of line. God is God and really doesn't need my help.

I find it really odd that so many folks(actually this is not pointed at you TNT I am saying generally speaking) who otherwise have nothing to do or say about God on a regular basis jump on the anti-gay bus.
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I don't why I keep repeating this but here goes. First of all, someone said that it was a preference. I knew that I was attracted to guys before I really understood anything about sexuality. And no, no one came to my school and recruited me! This was back in the 1970s when information on the subject was especially hard to find. Thankfully, I read a lot and thanks to books, I learned that there were others just like me. Believe me, it is not an easy thing to discover about yourself and if I had indeed had a preference, I would not have chosen it. As for Bill's statement about the "recruiting," that is one of the oldest lies and load of hogwash ever distributed by the far right. The only reason gay and lesbian organizations are on campuses is to help young gay people deal with who they are - or help those being discriminated against. The whole idea of trying to turn a straight person into a gay person is about the dumbest thing I can think of!

As for Bill's photo, he is being really narrow-minded to think that the men is saying that he is teaching children to become gay. I mean, really, is that what you gather from the photo? I think that the man is saying that he is gay and he is a teacher, like all the other teachers out there. Roll Eyes


David,
Nature vs Nurture is an argument that has been going on for a very long time and I am sure it will not be resolved here. Personally, I think it is both that work together to make us who we are. Straight or gay does not affect one's capacity for showing kindness, love, or intelligence. My own life journey has taught me that those who seek to "put down" others for any reason, are acting out of their own feelings of inadequacy and guilt. They simply feel compelled to find someone else they can feel superior to. It's a lot easier than dealing with their own garbage. Pity them. "By their works, ye shall know them." HE said. So when you see unkindness, meanness or ignorance, just try to avoid it so it doesn't rub off. lol (out loud- to quote the Monk).

None of us are perfect, and I am glad we're not...it leaves us room to learn. I pity the ones who think they already know everything. Don't you?
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My own life journey has taught me that those who seek to "put down" others for any reason, are acting out of their own feelings of inadequacy and guilt. They simply feel compelled to find someone else they can feel superior to



Speak fer yerself, NSF. Wink

Up until quite recently, I was a victim of my own self-inflicted conservative slants. I was a homophobe. It had nothing to to with superiority and everything to do with ignorance.
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My own life journey has taught me that those who seek to "put down" others for any reason, are acting out of their own feelings of inadequacy and guilt. They simply feel compelled to find someone else they can feel superior to



Speak fer yerself, NSF. Wink

Up until quite recently, I was a victim of my own self-inflicted conservative slants. I was a homophobe. It had nothing to to with superiority and everything to do with ignorance.


I am loving you more every day. One of the most honest people on here.
People are talking about how a child is born, as if that makes a difference if something is a sin or not. Have you ever noticed how a child has inherited ungodly traits that are never learned but are simply natural? Little Johnny did not have to be told to hit his sister when she picked up his toy car. When little Johnny doesn’t get his way he explodes in anger and throws things. If little Johnny were raised without someone taking a firm hand to him and correcting him, he would be a terror. Where did all of those things about him come from? Could it be that little Johnny has inherited a fallen sinful nature just like everybody else? Could little Johnny be born in sin, and prone to sin? Should we excuse ourselves, since all sins have a tendency to come naturally without trying? As a matter of fact, the Christian must make an effort not to sin in order to live a godly life. Everyone has inherited a fallen nature. It is only through Jesus Christ that we can crucify that nature and receive a new nature from God.

If God says something is a sin, then it is a sin. The argument of whether or not a person is born that way is not going to change that. The fact is, that God can change the heart and life of those who go to Him in faith, and humbly submit their lives to him. There is nothing impossible for God to accomplish in the heart and lives of those who seek Him. He is our creator, and He is able to recreate us in His image. Those who trust in Christ are born again into the family of God, and given a new life and a new spirit. In Christ we are able to crucify our fleshly nature. Greater is He that is in the child of God than He that is in the world. Christ is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power of His spirit and might that works in us. No power of the enemy can stand in the presence of God. There is no bondage or chain that God cannot break. Homosexuality is a curse, and in Christ we are free from the curse of sin. Those who seek deliverance in Christ, and who refuse to surrender to sin’s bondage can receive the grace, power, strength, and life necessary to overcome any evil that binds them or attempts to pull them back into darkness. In Christ there is no darkness. When we are in His presence, darkness has to flee. Nothing is greater than God. Nothing is more powerful than God. To those who seek freedom, seek Jesus Christ. And let no man or woman tell you that God is not able to deliver you.
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Originally posted by my little 2 cents:
My own life journey has taught me that those who seek to "put down" others for any reason, are acting out of their own feelings of inadequacy and guilt. They simply feel compelled to find someone else they can feel superior to. It's a lot easier than dealing with their own garbage. Pity them. "By their works, ye shall know them." HE said. So when you see unkindness, meanness or ignorance, just try to avoid it so it doesn't rub off. lol

None of us are perfect, and I am glad we're not...it leaves us room to learn. I pity the ones who think they already know everything. Don't you?


Good for you...this is one of the most intelligent statements I've read on this forum.
I don't trust people easily, especially "Christian" people. You begin to trust one, thinking they're sincere, that they're your friend..then you find out it was all a lie. I can handle it from a non-Christian better than one that claims to be.
I am always interested to hear how people who know absolutely nothing about anothers life from actual experience are perfectly qualified to examine, dissect, explain and dismiss the subject individuals opinion of his or her OWN life. It is very easy to tell someone what they should do based on your unqualified inexperience of that individuals life. This is based on the "rules" accepted by one and not neccessarily the other. I would have to tell that individual:"pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, he only knows his life and he can not tell you about yours. He is ,after all, behind the curtain and can't even see you."
One persons "perception" of the life and soul of another really amounts to nothing.
As long as you look at yourself and your abilities, you will find no strength and you will surrender to the least little thing. Those who focus on Christ and His power and grace, have no need to fear or be intimidated with whatever besets them. As long as people listen to those who have no faith, and refuse to listen and trust in God, then they will live their life powerless and weakly. God is not a man that is unable to deliver us. There is nothing He can't do. NOTHING!!! Those who look at themselves and their weakness, and who concentrate on the mountains that surround them, will surrender before they ever begin to fight. Those who look to God in faith, and get their eyes off their circumstances will find the mountains brought low, and those things that appeared large made small. Those who put their trust in man or in themselves will never know the power of God. Those who put their trust in God will know deliverance and victory. I encourage all who are weak and heavy laden to go to Christ. All who are bound go to Christ. He is able to set you free. His yoke is easy and His burden is light. In Him there is peace and deliverance. Don't trust in what man says. Trust in God.
What4 Dear,

Do you speak in such pious and lofty analogies all the time? It is as if you are teaching a class in every post. At times you can be quite kind and approachable. Then you will suddenly begin to spout legalisms and scriptures at every situation. At times you can be very officious and off-putting.

I must ask you, when you say "Don't trust in what man says.", are you speaking about physicians, and psychologists? Are you saying that individuals trained to specific tasks concerning human health both psychological and physical know nothing of the nature of the human condition if it does not embrace a Biblical interpretational view? I have known some brilliant doctors who have been very successful with both physical and mental health. It is hard for me to accept that they know nothing about their field of expertise because someone with a great knowledge of Biblical referencing disagrees.

I have, over the last 25 years, worked with many gays and lesbians who have been abused by "well meaning" Christians who insist that they can be delivered from their "curse". I have known individuals who even had exorcisms performed on them, complete with being held down, screamed at and terrified. I have known individuals who were led to such guilt by disapproving families, friends and pastors that they tried to commit suicide and in some cases were successful. I think there is a better way to deal with this issue than throwing guilt laden sentences and horrific consequential warnings. If you are really concerned - speak to humans as humans. Don't spout scriptural references and legalisms at every turn. Be approachable, kind and loving. Don't condemn, don't demean, and above all don't assume that you know what is best for an individual who is essentially a stranger. Do NOT assume that someone dealing with their homosexuality is "giving in to the least little thing". You know what the Bible says, no argument there, but you do not know the individual. There is far more to being a Christian than spouting rules and scripture. It is not always about being a "warrior" for Christ, nor is it about being right all the time. Strength is not neccessarily measured by knowledge of a thing, but how to use that knowledge in the right way.
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People are talking about how a child is born, as if that makes a difference if something is a sin or not. Have you ever noticed how a child has inherited ungodly traits that are never learned but are simply natural? Little Johnny did not have to be told to hit his sister when she picked up his toy car. When little Johnny doesn’t get his way he explodes in anger and throws things. If little Johnny were raised without someone taking a firm hand to him and correcting him, he would be a terror. Where did all of those things about him come from? Could it be that little Johnny has inherited a fallen sinful nature just like everybody else? Could little Johnny be born in sin, and prone to sin? Should we excuse ourselves, since all sins have a tendency to come naturally without trying? As a matter of fact, the Christian must make an effort not to sin in order to live a godly life. Everyone has inherited a fallen nature. It is only through Jesus Christ that we can crucify that nature and receive a new nature from God.


So "little Johnny" isn't going through the stages of normal moral development as every child does? He is an example of "fallen man." As an infant he doesn't cry out of physical and emotional need. It is because he is by nature evil. The fact that his brain hasn't fully developed perception of self vs. others and the ability to reason (concrete and in some cases abstract) cannot justify Johnny's black, evil, little heart. If Piaget and the other "greats" in the area of child development would have discovered this we might not have to worry with "child abuse." Liberal nonsense!!! After all what else can you do to correct a naturally sinister little being? Folks who understand these facts need to be honest with their children from an early age by letting them know how evil they are. What idiot said children become what is expected of them. Crazy modern thinking! Jonathon Swift's Modest Proposal was right on the money.

As far as the gay thing goes? Folks who are gay simply choose to be that way. They like the negative attention. They enjoy being on the outside. They look forward to having to hide their private lives by skirting questions at work about when they are going to get married. Since they cannot have children they look forward to getting old and frail with no one to look after them. Of course it is a choice. Who wouldn't want such a happy life.

Think how unfare God creating gays would be to the hetero-sexicals. Denying them the beauty of the life discussed above. That would make God sadistic.

And the same liberals (communists in reality)who speak of "child abuse" want us to allow civil unions or even the "M" word. Can you imagine what would happen to the present divorce rate(which is at an all time low) if married (hetero) couples saw two loving people of the same sex in a lawful union. People would start splittin' up left and right!!! That's Special rights for ya!
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Actually it was a statement directed at anyone who feels threatened. I would not normally suggest that anyone rush out and buy a gun, but if someone is threatening you and you have no other option, go for it. Take a gun safety class. Some police departments offer such classes, and there are also private schools recommended by gun dealers and law enforcement. The post was in response to a "suspended" user "46:1". Hes probably lurking about us at this very moment.


Oh, I was asking because you are anti-violence in one thread then advising to take up firearms in another. I'm a little confused. Excuse me I'm off to make the blind see, toodles.
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Actually it was a statement directed at anyone who feels threatened. I would not normally suggest that anyone rush out and buy a gun, but if someone is threatening you and you have no other option, go for it. Take a gun safety class. Some police departments offer such classes, and there are also private schools recommended by gun dealers and law enforcement. The post was in response to a "suspended" user "46:1". Hes probably lurking about us at this very moment.


Oh, I was asking because you are anti-violence in one thread then advising to take up firearms in another. I'm a little confused. Excuse me I'm off to make the blind see, toodles.


I am always anti-violence most of all. I am also pro-self protection. If everyone were anti-violence, I would not need to recommend anything for self protection. The guy in the deleated post stated that he found gay men to be "wimps", and "sissys" and he liked to abuse them "when ever he got the chance."( what a total stud, abusing "wimps and sissys" for fun). I can tell you right now, if some man abused me, I would "turn him from a rooster to a hen with one shot." No one should have to put up with physical abuse - no one. Like I said in the earlier post : call the cops first, scream, yell, do everything you can to get away. If all else fails and you feel your life is threatened - do what you have to for your protection.

Good luck with the blind! Let me know if I can help.
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I can tell you right now, if some man abused me, I would "turn him from a rooster to a hen with one shot."


The poster said he kicked the guy in the rear, you advised to get a gun and shoot him, not anti-violent in my book. I think you have some sort of issues with being truthful.


"Good luck with the blind! Let me know if I can help."

Oh you can, anytime!" Wink
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I can tell you right now, if some man abused me, I would "turn him from a rooster to a hen with one shot."


The poster said he kicked the guy in the rear, you advised to get a gun and shoot him, not anti-violent in my book. I think you have some sort of issues with being truthful.


"Good luck with the blind! Let me know if I can help."

Oh you can, anytime!" Wink


Darling, I am speaking of the last resort if your life is threatened not just getting kicked in the rear. I was not saying to shoot that specific poster. I think you have some trouble with comprehensive reading. You clearly are unaware of the number of hate crimes committed each year in this country. Known anyone killed because they were gay? I have. Would you really just want to wait around to see if they were going to rough you up or beat you to death?

http://www.law.ucla.edu/williamsinstitute/publications/...rime%20Formatted.pdf

There are 24 different hate groups in Alabama alone. This does not even address the obsessed homophobic violent freak.
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Darling, I am speaking of the last resort if your life is threatened not just getting kicked in the rear. You clearly are unaware of the number of hate crimes committed each year in this country.



The subject was only involving the rear kicking thing, now you add life threatening situations? Well Ijust didn't see that written anywhere. anything to justify your violent statement ehh?

You must be really magic to see inside my mind and be able to tell what I know, Big Grin
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Originally posted by jetboy:
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Darling, I am speaking of the last resort if your life is threatened not just getting kicked in the rear. You clearly are unaware of the number of hate crimes committed each year in this country.



The subject was only involving the rear kicking thing, now you add life threatening situations? Well Ijust didn't see that written anywhere. anything to justify your violent statement ehh?

You must be really magic to see inside my mind and be able to tell what I know, Big Grin


Gee Jetboy...reading this, it sounds like you are the more violent one. Are you trying to justify your anger? Or has someone hurt you and you are looking for validation to retaliate? Or are just wanting to kick some ass? Whats the prob kiddo?

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