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Well folks it's that time of year again.  Get ready for thousands of loud bikes.  For those of you unfamiliar The trail of tears commemorates the Native America's long motorcycle ride out west in which the paused briefly in present day Waterloo to listen to a Lynyrd Skinnard cover band and pass out drunk in a ditch.

 

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Mr. Farley, the riders in the trail of tears does alot for us. They have rides not only in the trail of tears, but for cancer and children hospitals. They do benifits rides. What do you do for your community? I have not heard anything so nigitive and there have not been any trouble with the rides. Have you seen anyone pasted out in a ditch. You are so stupid and negitive, and probable jealous of the riders.

Never saw anyone riding drunk or drinking. What they do when the bikes are parked is their business. Native American dancers at the ride meeting areas, the shirts, the Native Americans along the route with pictures, posters, signs, the stories of the history of the TOT, Native Americans riding it-there is no doubt in anyone's mind what it's about. Riding the trail is an ordeal, and anyone just wanting to have a "good time", get drunk and show their *****, could find easier ways to do it.

Mr. FarIey, checked the dicthes and could not find anyone drunk or passed out. There were some resting after the long ride. Everyone that I talked to knew what the ride was all about. Check out the things that you said the riders was doing and everything looked great.Now you can rest your mind and sleep at night. Have you ever rode in the trail of tears or been to Waterloo to watch it? I have to ask, how did you come up with your stupid comment, you had to have some help, you could not have thought this up on your own. That's right skyrider, if you cannot spell Lynyrd Skynyrd right, there is something not right. lol

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I do not mind the ride,n or the riders, but I do not think that traffic should be blocked and others inconvenienced.  The riders and the ride should confrom to the standard traffic laws and traffic should be allowed to cross 72 at the red lights. In years past I have been held up for up 45 minutes in a traffic hold so the ride could pass.

You shouldn't have to wait though.  There is no reason for a large public roadway, which connects one side of the city to the other, which also has the hospital, to be closed for this amount of time.  The motorcycle group should be held to the same rules of the road.  The lights could be changed so that there is a bit of a delay, but there is no need to hold up traffic for this amount of time.

I'm glad some find the experience anoying. I'm sure it is nothing compared to the fate those on the original TOT experienced. But then they were just Indians. Those anoyed are probably among the group that is  generally just to busy to care about the plight of others. And they are certainly bigots, looking down their nose at those they consider beneath them. 

No, contrary to your ranntings, I find it a PITA to be halted in traffic on a public highway so that a motorcycle procession can go unabated. It has nothing to do with the plight of the original native Americans who were herded thru the area.  However, I bet you could ask along the highway of those who are sitting beside the road to watch, or the riders, and will find a large percentage who cannot even tell you what the ride is supposed to represent. However, i digress, it is still inconvenient and probably if challenged, illegal for the roadway to be totally blocked like this for this period of time.  In some communities you cannot even get out of your neighborhood if it exits onto Hwy 72. For the past 15 years I have lived here it has gotten worse and I still believe it is uncalled for.  Accomomdations should be made for those who might have the day off, the only day off during the week, and have things which they need to get done.

Originally Posted by skyryder:

Anyone who doesn't use the correct spelling of Lynyrd Skynyrd, is close enough to an idiot for me.

Boy, that's pretty harsh. We've seen them over 30 times and I still have to look up the spelling when I want to spell it.

 

On Trail of Tears day I do what I have to do early and then get back to my side of 72. You just have to work with certain facts of life.

 


 

Originally Posted by Chuck Farley:

The noise is my biggest complaint.  I'm trying to sleep at 2:00 am when a bike a mile away rattles my windows.  If you want see see what the event is is really about take away the bikes and beer and see how many people show up.


Then get you some ear plugs. This ride only comes thru once a year, so deal with it.  OR NOT!

Originally Posted by teyates:

I do not mind the ride,n or the riders, but I do not think that traffic should be blocked and others inconvenienced.  The riders and the ride should confrom to the standard traffic laws and traffic should be allowed to cross 72 at the red lights. In years past I have been held up for up 45 minutes in a traffic hold so the ride could pass.

If you have to wait, then that is your own fault. They announce where and when the bikers are going to be coming thru. Stay away from that area for 45 minutes and your misery will be solved.

Originally Posted by peede coober:
Originally Posted by skyryder:

Anyone who doesn't use the correct spelling of Lynyrd Skynyrd, is close enough to an idiot for me.

Boy, that's pretty harsh. We've seen them over 30 times and I still have to look up the spelling when I want to spell it.

 

On Trail of Tears day I do what I have to do early and then get back to my side of 72. You just have to work with certain facts of life.

 


 

This is so true, "You have to work with certain facts of life." 

How's that traffic when the fair's in town? That's lasts, what, a week? Ever tried to move in traffic when schools and colleges play football at home? That happens what, every home game until football season is over. How about getting around when they're having parades? How many of those do they have a year? How about getting around in Tuscumbia during the Helen Keller festival? 

RIDING TIPS: VERY IMPORTANT RIDE INFORMATION
Please Read and Abide by Carefully

COME EARLY-- BELLY FULL -- BLADDER EMPTY -- GAS TANK FULL

Attention! Ride Rule Changes for 2006 and all following years.

In past years several riders showed complete disregard for the safety of everyone by pulling out from the side of the road at gas stations, convenience stores and forced their way into the ride. This caused accidents with riders going down. This happened at several locations, and we were very lucky that someone wasn't hurt very seriously. This kind of behavior by a few riders forces us to make stricter rules for everyone.

Starting this year (2006), we can no longer invite you to join the ride any where along the route. You MUST start the ride in Chattanooga, TN or in another safe location along the route or after a total ride gas stop.

I will be having ride meetings with all police at the problem areas and ask them to issue tickets for failure to yield and reckless endangerment. I would appreciate everyone's support on this issue. It will make a better and safer ride for all participants. We must do everything on our part to insure a safe ride for everyone.

Thanks for your cooperation,

Bill Cason
Ride Leader & Originator

JOIN THE RIDE AT DESIGNATED STOPS ONLY ! ! ! ! DO NOT jump into a gap in the ride as it is moving.

THIS RIDE IS POLICE ESCORTED ALL THE WAY Police escorts are the ONLY road guards. Leave together and KEEP UP WITH THE PACK. If you leave gaps, cars will enter and separate the pack. You will NOT be protected by Police Escorts if you separate from the ride.

YOU WILL NOT BE PROTECTED BY POLICE ESCORTS IF YOU ARE BEHIND OUR TRAILING VEHICLE or separate from the ride. The trailing vehicle will have a banner designating the vehicle as the end of the ride. If you are behind this vehicle, you may join the ride by safely passing this vehicle and joining the ride.

STAY IN THE RIGHT LANE and RIDE STAGGER OR SIDE BY SIDE The left lane is for police escorts – STAY OUT OF IT ! ! ! ! ! !

HELMETS ARE REQUIRED Please wear your helmet at all times on this ride. They are required by state law in Tennessee and Alabama.

NO DRUGS OR ALCOHOL This is a non-alcohol ride, please do not bring alcohol with you.

NO WATER HANDOUTS OR HIGH FIVES WITH SPECTATORS This is simply asking for trouble. There are TOO MANY bikes on this ride close together. A small wreck could spell major troubles and injuries. 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

How's that traffic when the fair's in town? That's lasts, what, a week? Ever tried to move in traffic when schools and colleges play football at home? That happens what, every home game until football season is over. How about getting around when they're having parades? How many of those do they have a year? How about getting around in Tuscumbia during the Helen Keller festival? 

And your point is????

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

My point is that they can put up with it once a year. AND everyone knows exactly what the ride is for, even the ones on the sidelines watching it go by.

So true, they have to either sit back and enjoy it or sit and gripe about it. Personaly, I enjoy it. Thanks for your reply.

Yes, you are so right.  I also know many folks that enjoy watching monkeys copulate, but that is just not my thing.  Having been in an emergent situation several years ago where I was separated from the hospital by a major traffic jam caused by several thousand bikers scattered over several miles, I do now make my plans accordingly.  It, however, does not diminish the fact that there is no excuse for closing down the entire roadway for this circus.

I doubt the traffic, nor the air corridors, were shut down for the "airshow" you spoke of Bestworking.  Because some planners and officials use a little common sense when planning and issuing permits for this type of thing. 

If these "riders" wanted to impress someone, they should get out and walk the trail like the native Americans had to do, with little to no food, and everything they owned strapped to their back. Call it what it is, a big motorcycle rally, but don't hide behind the fact that it is some kind of memorial service.  And LAH, as a taxpayer, I have as much right to complain about being inconvenienced as you.  The radio can give approximate times and whatever they wish, it does not diminish the fact that in the case of an emergency you could very well well be delayed.  I would hate that a member of my family or a loved one suffered needlessly or died as a result of a delay in order not to inconvenience a pack of motorcyclists who do not want to utilize the stoplights, and be it for from me to deny you the right to sit idly by the road and watch them pass.  Especially since a motorcylist on Hwy 72 is about as rare as hen's teeth.....geesh.....think about it for a moment.

 

Well teyates, the last time we rode it they had started breaking up the procession and stopping them for lights along the way so they wouldn't hold up traffic. Whether or not they still do that I can't say. I have no idea where you live, but around here there are alternate routes anyone can take to avoid being delayed and I would go so far as to say you'd have a hard time finding anyone that is delayed now for as long as you claim. I think it just depends on what you enjoy whether or not you can find fault with it. Things happen all the time to delay or hold someone up, how do you handle being stopped for trains?  Just when you see the end and they back up can be very frustrating. How about an accident that backs up traffic? Something that only happens once a year just can't be that much of an inconvenience, especially if you have alternate routes.

i rode a few years.. the best i can describe is this.... the front moving about 45mph... the middle... moving about 40 mph... the back, about 70mph... it's something every bike rider should do, once! keeping in mind, these people WALKED this path, away from their home.. most of which never saw 'home' again.... once a year, it's not so bad,

seeweed,

a funeral procession does not last 30-45 minutes, and in most cases you can get by it. If you live on the south side of 72 east, you will find it very hard to get to the west side.  Not only are intersections blocked by the police at most major intersections, there is a usually a plethora of car backed up.  Trying to justify it by saying there is fair warning does not negate the fact that the public road is blocked for an unusual amount of time which restricts access.  I have never figured out why this ride does not come down the Natchez Trace and then down Hwy 20 to go to Waterloo.  The only reason I can figure is that people just want to be seen publically and it is an ego thing

Oh well, I have said my piece.  I still think it is a backwoods, hich thing to do to close the public road, but since I am a transplant here and not home grown, my opinion does not mean much.

.  I still think it is a backwoods, hich thing to do to close the public road, but since I am a transplant here and not home grown, my opinion does not mean much.

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I think it's a wonderful thing to do. How you get "hick" (is that what you meant?) from it is beyond me. I've been stuck in traffic many times for a long period of time for other events. How about fireworks shows on the 4th of July? Ever tried to move in traffic when cities have held those? Again, once a year isn't going to kill anyone, and just like you said you found alternate routes to get around other things, there are ways to get around this ride. 

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