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The reason they fear him even before the election is the fact he isn't
one of the family swamp lizards, they had nothing on him so it was
either him or us.
 
The more false crimes they try to nail him with and fail the more
pessed off he becomes and the more worried they need to be.
 
Paul Ryan must have swallowed more than his share of swamp water 
to turn tail and run as soon as he did, I believe Trump noticed.
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The Ukraine just threw Trump under the bus...

"It was clear that [President Donald] Trump will only have communications if they will discuss the Biden case," said Serhiy Leshchenko, an anti-corruption advocate and former member of Ukraine's Parliament, who now acts as an adviser to Zelenskiy. "This issue was raised many times. I know that Ukrainian officials understood."

this is all political,,,   They were talking impeach Trump as soon as he won.  Sadly we can look at both sides.  However the media is to blame.  They gave Obama a pass on pert neer everything.  Biden is on tape not just admitting, however bragging that he held money to get what he wanted (I really don't understand why we give everyone money).   

Now if voters would put politics aside.  We have a corruption challenge in DC.   Senators and Represenitives that have gotten rich in DC.   We give money to other countries, while robbing Social Security.  The list goes on and on.  However voters continue to vote party line and reelect these vile people.  Then they argue over who is more corrupt.    I can hardly remember the "power" people of congress saying anything about our country,  seems everything his about their party having power.  

With that said, I see a break down of democrat 65% evil, republican 35% evil.  example would be the "Tea Party" pushed to get corrupt republicans out as democrats.  

They play the public with their BS to rile up their lower half of voters,,, sadly to many fall for it.   

I wish every one in congress would be voted out in the primaries and get a clean sweep of congress.

My final word on Trump.  I realize he isn't the cleanest however I voted for him to drain the DC swamp.   We have seen many republicans go after him because of that.  WE needed an outsider.

My concern with Pence is he was part of that swamp.  

ok I will answer your question, even after the democrat way you deflected from answering mine.   I don't think he did anything wrong so nothing to hide.  Plus with in a week he released the transcript. Even tho he didn't have to.   No hiding, the security thing is done with lots because he knows there are spies in the WH just looking for anything they can stir up. 

1130 posted:

ok I will answer your question, even after the democrat way you deflected from answering mine.   I don't think he did anything wrong so nothing to hide.  Plus with in a week he released the transcript. Even tho he didn't have to.   No hiding, the security thing is done with lots because he knows there are spies in the WH just looking for anything they can stir up. 

After Trump hid the tapes of his conversation with the Ukraine. After Trump decided to circumvent the law and not deliver the whistleblower complaint... after Pelosi started formal Impeachment , then Trump decided to hand over the documents. Lets not put the cart before the horse.

You're perfectly fine with the POTUS using his office and taxpayer monies for personal/political gain?

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you have shown all you care about is party,,, sad,,,   he didn't do anything with complaint besides it was being investigated,, congress didn't give time for the process to work.  it was a set up.    

you still didn't answer if you were ok with Biden,,, so I have my answer.   see difference is I will answer,, you deflect.   will give you credit tho at least you not like the democrats on facebook that just go to name calling and profanity.

1130 posted:

you have shown all you care about is party,,, sad,,,   he didn't do anything with complaint besides it was being investigated,, congress didn't give time for the process to work.  it was a set up.    

you still didn't answer if you were ok with Biden,,, so I have my answer.   see difference is I will answer,, you deflect.   will give you credit tho at least you not like the democrats on facebook that just go to name calling and profanity.

I'm not gonna answer a question that has no basis in fact.

You do realize, the basis for the entire argument, about Biden, is the idea of Roger Stone. In order for the Biden story to be true, the DNC had to have hacked themselves. The judge, in Stone's case, has already dismissed this rhetoric and the GOP has taken up the mantle.

Republicans have decided to attack Democrats and the Whistle-blower instead of wanting to know the truth.

Please, tell me more about how I put 'Party over Country' as you scream about the horrors of Democrats and defend the actions of this administration instead of seeking the truth.

1130 posted:

ok I will answer your question, even after the democrat way you deflected from answering mine.   I don't think he did anything wrong so nothing to hide.  Plus with in a week he released the transcript. Even tho he didn't have to.   No hiding, the security thing is done with lots because he knows there are spies in the WH just looking for anything they can stir up. 

There's not much difference between deflection and lying, the more a
liberal raves about the truth the more they lie. Deflecting for them is
answering a charge with more questions, when they should've been
truthing. I think we know who wears the Boots when the lib/Dems
are walked all over in the coming year.
 
With the Helda not in a position to hide all their crimes, I see Trump
just might be shot soon.

 It's who they are, it's what they do, they have killed their own.

 

Last edited by Jack Hammer

Republicans keep screaming about Biden having a corrupt person fired. I wonder if Republicans have read the email, from the Pentagon, about how the Ukraine got rid of the corrupt element and is now a better place and approved to receive the money promised.

What was Paul Manifort put in prison for again? I can't remember.

Put Biden's comments in context and get back to me.... If/ when Republicans decide to join the real world.

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L. Cranston posted:
1130 posted:

ok I will answer your question, even after the democrat way you deflected from answering mine.   I don't think he did anything wrong so nothing to hide.  Plus with in a week he released the transcript. Even tho he didn't have to.   No hiding, the security thing is done with lots because he knows there are spies in the WH just looking for anything they can stir up. 

After Trump hid the tapes of his conversation with the Ukraine. After Trump decided to circumvent the law and not deliver the whistleblower complaint... after Pelosi started formal Impeachment , then Trump decided to hand over the documents. Lets not put the cart before the horse.

You're perfectly fine with the POTUS using his office and taxpayer monies for personal/political gain?

Actually President Trump played them like a fiddle.  He knew there was nothing wrong with the call and waited to trap the demos in another botched attempt to whip something up !!’

HIFLYER2 posted:
L. Cranston posted:
1130 posted:

ok I will answer your question, even after the democrat way you deflected from answering mine.   I don't think he did anything wrong so nothing to hide.  Plus with in a week he released the transcript. Even tho he didn't have to.   No hiding, the security thing is done with lots because he knows there are spies in the WH just looking for anything they can stir up. 

After Trump hid the tapes of his conversation with the Ukraine. After Trump decided to circumvent the law and not deliver the whistleblower complaint... after Pelosi started formal Impeachment , then Trump decided to hand over the documents. Lets not put the cart before the horse.

You're perfectly fine with the POTUS using his office and taxpayer monies for personal/political gain?

Actually President Trump played them like a fiddle.  He knew there was nothing wrong with the call and waited to trap the demos in another botched attempt to whip something up !!’

And here I thought Denial was a river in Egypt.

1130 posted:

this is all political,,,   They were talking impeach Trump as soon as he won.  Sadly we can look at both sides.  However the media is to blame.  They gave Obama a pass on pert neer everything.  Biden is on tape not just admitting, however bragging that he held money to get what he wanted (I really don't understand why we give everyone money).   

Now if voters would put politics aside.  We have a corruption challenge in DC.   Senators and Represenitives that have gotten rich in DC.   We give money to other countries, while robbing Social Security.  The list goes on and on.  However voters continue to vote party line and reelect these vile people.  Then they argue over who is more corrupt.    I can hardly remember the "power" people of congress saying anything about our country,  seems everything his about their party having power.  

With that said, I see a break down of democrat 65% evil, republican 35% evil.  example would be the "Tea Party" pushed to get corrupt republicans out as democrats.  

They play the public with their BS to rile up their lower half of voters,,, sadly to many fall for it.   

I wish every one in congress would be voted out in the primaries and get a clean sweep of congress.

My final word on Trump.  I realize he isn't the cleanest however I voted for him to drain the DC swamp.   We have seen many republicans go after him because of that.  WE needed an outsider.

My concern with Pence is he was part of that swamp.  

Well said, thought I'd quote it again as it deserve another read.

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