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Originally posted by gbrk:
I'm not qualified to answer regarding the Wisconsin laws whether open meeting or whatever you call it. I do know from all media reports that ample time and efforts were made to vote on the issue but certain politicians refused to occupy the chamber and even left the state because they understood that their presence was required for a vote as the original bill was worded.
What the judge said was it may be illegal so an injunction was issued against. Here you have Judges usurping legislative action through activism.
Regarding the Healthcare law that was not a tax, that was all you heard while it was being debated and pushed upon America yet once they passed it and saw that their actions were unconstitutional the only way they could justify it and attempt to get it through was by calling it a tax which the federal government does have the right to do. It doesn't take a judge to know that their actions was outside the authority that the constitution allowed of the Federal Government (either the Executive or Legislative branches).
Had Bush had done this there would have been impeachment moves from Congress and the Media would be calling for immediate removal of him from office.
As for the Judges that ruled in favor of the Healthcare law the last and higher judge ruled it unconstitutional and that is the one that should rule until a higher court hears it or ultimately the Supreme Court rules.
What really reveals what's going on isn't so much the redefinition of the bill rejecting it as being a tax then having to define it as a tax but what really reveals what's going on is the abundant number of waivers given to those who financially have helped the Democrats out, the Unions, large companies, etc. The Democrats have basically given them a waiver or exclusion from the pecuniary actions of the bill and reserved the punishment for the normal citizens. IF it was so great for all then why all the waivers and why are they necessary for those supporters of Obama?
You know, you are trying to compare apples with oranges.
The Healthcare Act was a FLAWED bill, the bill passed in Wisconsin was ILLEGAL.
The Healthcare Act hopefully is a beginning but the way it was handled, concessions made to Big Pharma, the AMA and republicans make it a very far cry from what SHOULD have been passed: Universal Healthcare.
THAT would have been TRUE healthcare reform.
Specific FEES for procedures, regulated and specific PAYMENT to healthcare professionals for the services provided and take the health of this country out of the hands of politicians, lobbyist and insurance companies.
Maybe in another 50 years, like Medicare.