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Originally posted by wright35633:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
By all means put me on ignore-then you can snipe like seeweed does. Brave man.


And miss your informative commentary?
Your call, no skin off my nose. What do you call your posts? I call mine opinions. Read all the posts, then tell me why my posts upset you more than anyone elses that oppose what the nut did. Read what seeweed just posted, then keep in mind he wants me ignored. LOL
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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Originally posted by wright35633:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
By all means put me on ignore-then you can snipe like seeweed does. Brave man.


And miss your informative commentary?
Your call, no skin off my nose. What do you call your posts? I call mine opinions. Read all the posts, then tell me why my posts upset you more than anyone elses that oppose what the nut did. Read what seeweed just posted, then keep in mind he wants me ignored. LOL


Your posts don't upset me. You were working yourself up into a frenzy there. My post was an observation.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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You are so full of it, I never brought religion into it other that radical islam. I believe in live and let live but make no mistake there is no living peaceably with radical islam. No all religions are not a threat like radical islam. Currently no other religion embraces violence like radial islam.

How true. Jim Jones was a muslim. Koresh was a muslim. I stand corrected. Now then, tell me exactly how Islam is threatening you.


How quickly you forget, you are a piece of work my fellow workers were some of the first ones to die on 9/11. Every time I go to work there is a possibility of some muslim radical trying to take over or down the aircraft. Is that threatening enough for you? Yes David and Jim were a couple of bad guys but nothing compared to islamic radicals, you joined them and suffered for it. Islamic radicals simply kill you for nothing except you are non-muslim or in some cases a less cast of muslims like the non-arab ones.
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Originally posted by wright35633:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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Originally posted by wright35633:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
By all means put me on ignore-then you can snipe like seeweed does. Brave man.


And miss your informative commentary?
Your call, no skin off my nose. What do you call your posts? I call mine opinions. Read all the posts, then tell me why my posts upset you more than anyone elses that oppose what the nut did. Read what seeweed just posted, then keep in mind he wants me ignored. LOL


Your posts don't upset me. You were working yourself up into a frenzy there. My post was an observation.
I wasn't working myself into any kind of "frenzy" or upset. I guess it's just how I word my posts. I'm very calm, I'd never stay around anything that upset me. The hypocrisy is just blaring.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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You are so full of it, I never brought religion into it other that radical islam. I believe in live and let live but make no mistake there is no living peaceably with radical islam. No all religions are not a threat like radical islam. Currently no other religion embraces violence like radial islam.

How true. Jim Jones was a muslim. Koresh was a muslim. I stand corrected. Now then, tell me exactly how Islam is threatening you.


Really? Flying planes into buildings, sending suicide bombers into crowded trains, blowing up cars, training daily for a school takeover such as the one in Russia known as the Beslan School Takeover, studying maps of small town elementary schools in their little caves, and recently trying to sneak onto a military base.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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Originally posted by wright35633:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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Originally posted by wright35633:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
By all means put me on ignore-then you can snipe like seeweed does. Brave man.


And miss your informative commentary?
Your call, no skin off my nose. What do you call your posts? I call mine opinions. Read all the posts, then tell me why my posts upset you more than anyone elses that oppose what the nut did. Read what seeweed just posted, then keep in mind he wants me ignored. LOL


Your posts don't upset me. You were working yourself up into a frenzy there. My post was an observation.
I wasn't working myself into any kind of "frenzy" or upset. I guess it's just how I word my posts. I'm very calm, I'd never stay around anything that upset me. The hypocrisy is just blaring.


Are you calling me a hypocrite?
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Are you calling me a hypocrite?
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How quickly you forget, you are a piece of work my fellow workers were some of the first ones to die on 9/11. Every time I go to work there is a possibility of some muslim radical trying to take over or down the aircraft. Is that threatening enough for you? Yes David and Jim were a couple of bad guys but nothing compared to islamic radicals, you joined them and suffered for it. Islamic radicals simply kill you for nothing except you are non-muslim or in some cases a less cast of muslims like the non-arab ones.

I have never denied that, on the contrary I've stressed that. That is why I can't understand why someone like this nutjob would want to whip them up into one of their "religious frenzies". No one will explain how burning a koran makes us any safer.
They are only doing this to see what our reaction will be...They will keep nudging us little by little until we give up everything for a little peace. They are slowly training us how to behave.
They are playing a centuries old chess game with us...and it seems we are playing marbles or maybe hopscotch. They knew sooner or later that someone would burn a Koran and so they got out their playbook for "How to react when someone burns the koran."
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Pastor Terry Jones says he is willing to die for his beliefs. Both he and his aide are armed. He also said he believes the ten deaths are worth it. UNBELIEVABLE
To bad it wasn't him instead of the other innocent people that died. If he's so willing to die why is he armed?
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Originally posted by savinforarainyday:
They are only doing this to see what our reaction will be...They will keep nudging us little by little until we give up everything for a little peace. They are slowly training us how to behave.
They are playing a centuries old chess game with us...and it seems we are playing marbles or maybe hopscotch. They knew sooner or later that someone would burn a Koran and so they got out their playbook for "How to react when someone burns the koran."


So True
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Originally posted by savinforarainyday:
They are only doing this to see what our reaction will be...They will keep nudging us little by little until we give up everything for a little peace. They are slowly training us how to behave.
They are playing a centuries old chess game with us...and it seems we are playing marbles or maybe hopscotch. They knew sooner or later that someone would burn a Koran and so they got out their playbook for "How to react when someone burns the koran."


So True


The Americans have joined the jews in the chess match!! Great post!!
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Originally posted by wright35633:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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You are so full of it, I never brought religion into it other that radical islam. I believe in live and let live but make no mistake there is no living peaceably with radical islam. No all religions are not a threat like radical islam. Currently no other religion embraces violence like radial islam.

How true. Jim Jones was a muslim. Koresh was a muslim. I stand corrected. Now then, tell me exactly how Islam is threatening you.


Really? Flying planes into buildings, sending suicide bombers into crowded trains, blowing up cars, training daily for a school takeover such as the one in Russia known as the Beslan School Takeover, studying maps of small town elementary schools in their little caves, and recently trying to sneak onto a military base.



With a little change of words, you could have been describing Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols, Muslims I guess, or maybe that guy (don't know his name) , who flew his personal plane into the IRS building about a year ago - Guess Islamic radicals are to blame for that too. Was the Unibomber Muslim as well?.
My friend , it would appear you suffer from Islamaphobia (I think that is a new word), ie un-warrented fear of everything Muslim .
Crazy people in this world are not limited to their religion, Hitler was Catholic, Hirohito was his own godhead, but most likely Buddhist, those I listed above were some form of Christian, W Bush was Methodist, and the current crazies in the middle east are Islam , and of course this hateful biggot claims Christianity. I believe crazy hateful people come in all religions, and even no religions.

This phobia you suffer from was shared in some respects by the likes of Jerry Faldwell who saw a homosexual behind every tree, and the likes of Rick Santorium who sees a person wanting someone to have an abortion behind every rock.
Get a life, live and let live. Quit listening to Fox News and Rush. Learn truth, after all if you claim to be a Christian we were told in Schripture that the "truth will make you free".
If you can't shake those phobias on your own, maybe you need to go get professional help.
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Originally posted by seeweed:
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Originally posted by wright35633:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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You are so full of it, I never brought religion into it other that radical islam. I believe in live and let live but make no mistake there is no living peaceably with radical islam. No all religions are not a threat like radical islam. Currently no other religion embraces violence like radial islam.

How true. Jim Jones was a muslim. Koresh was a muslim. I stand corrected. Now then, tell me exactly how Islam is threatening you.


Really? Flying planes into buildings, sending suicide bombers into crowded trains, blowing up cars, training daily for a school takeover such as the one in Russia known as the Beslan School Takeover, studying maps of small town elementary schools in their little caves, and recently trying to sneak onto a military base.



With a little change of words, you could have been describing Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols, Muslims I guess, or maybe that guy (don't know his name) , who flew his personal plane into the IRS building about a year ago - Guess Islamic radicals are to blame for that too. Was the Unibomber Muslim as well?.
My friend , it would appear you suffer from Islamaphobia (I think that is a new word), ie un-warrented fear of everything Muslim .
Crazy people in this world are not limited to their religion, Hitler was Catholic, Hirohito was his own godhead, but most likely Buddhist, those I listed above were some form of Christian, W Bush was Methodist, and the current crazies in the middle east are Islam , and of course this hateful biggot claims Christianity. I believe crazy hateful people come in all religions, and even no religions.

This phobia you suffer from was shared in some respects by the likes of Jerry Faldwell who saw a homosexual behind every tree, and the likes of Rick Santorium who sees a person wanting someone to have an abortion behind every rock.
Get a life, live and let live. Quit listening to Fox News and Rush. Learn truth, after all if you claim to be a Christian we were told in Schripture that the "truth will make you free".
If you can't shake those phobias on your own, maybe you need to go get professional help.


So you are saying radical Muslims did not do those things? You have no clue what you are talking about. I don't watch fox news and I don't like Rush Limbaugh. I don't fear Muslims any more than any other person. Every incident I described has been documented. I have seen the training videos with my own two eyes. I know good and well that not all Muslims are out to harm this nation.

I should amend my post. Islam is not a threat. The radical faction who wants to destroy western culture and who blame the US for it are a threat. When I spoke, I spoke of the radical faction. My bad for the confusion.
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What most people here fail to understand is that there is a difference between RADICAL MUSLIMS and the Muslim religion. I'm sorry, but I don't think burning a book that is as precious to an entire religion of people as the Bible is to Christians simply to spite the radicals was justified. That would be like burning every Baptist church in Alabama because your preacher slept with your wife. Now, if you people are condoning the burning because you feel any other religion besides Christianity is bad, then just admit it and move onto the religion board.
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Originally posted by AtticFeline:
What most people here fail to understand is that there is a difference between RADICAL MUSLIMS and the Muslim religion. I'm sorry, but I don't think burning a book that is as precious to an entire religion of people as the Bible is to Christians simply to spite the radicals was justified. That would be like burning every Baptist church in Alabama because your preacher slept with your wife. Now, if you people are condoning the burning because you feel any other religion besides Christianity is bad, then just admit it and move onto the religion board.



Its just that we are not condoning killing because of a book being burned.
I understand that. I don't either. I don't think anyone here does. The question is whether or not this "pastor" has blood on his hands because he knew what would happen and didn't care. I also don't condone burning a book to incite bad feelings and violence intentionally, which is what happened. He blames not only the entire Muslim religion, but their holy book, for 9-11 and said so.

Just curious, how would you feel if the Baptist preacher knew that by sleeping with a member's wife, that all the churches would be burned, and then went ahead and slept with the member's wife anyway? Who would you blame? The man who burned the churches or the preacher who perpetrated the action knowing full well what would happen?
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Originally posted by wright35633:
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Originally posted by seeweed:
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Originally posted by wright35633:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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You are so full of it, I never brought religion into it other that radical islam. I believe in live and let live but make no mistake there is no living peaceably with radical islam. No all religions are not a threat like radical islam. Currently no other religion embraces violence like radial islam.

How true. Jim Jones was a muslim. Koresh was a muslim. I stand corrected. Now then, tell me exactly how Islam is threatening you.


Really? Flying planes into buildings, sending suicide bombers into crowded trains, blowing up cars, training daily for a school takeover such as the one in Russia known as the Beslan School Takeover, studying maps of small town elementary schools in their little caves, and recently trying to sneak onto a military base.



With a little change of words, you could have been describing Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols, Muslims I guess, or maybe that guy (don't know his name) , who flew his personal plane into the IRS building about a year ago - Guess Islamic radicals are to blame for that too. Was the Unibomber Muslim as well?.
My friend , it would appear you suffer from Islamaphobia (I think that is a new word), ie un-warrented fear of everything Muslim .
Crazy people in this world are not limited to their religion, Hitler was Catholic, Hirohito was his own godhead, but most likely Buddhist, those I listed above were some form of Christian, W Bush was Methodist, and the current crazies in the middle east are Islam , and of course this hateful biggot claims Christianity. I believe crazy hateful people come in all religions, and even no religions.

This phobia you suffer from was shared in some respects by the likes of Jerry Faldwell who saw a homosexual behind every tree, and the likes of Rick Santorium who sees a person wanting someone to have an abortion behind every rock.
Get a life, live and let live. Quit listening to Fox News and Rush. Learn truth, after all if you claim to be a Christian we were told in Schripture that the "truth will make you free".
If you can't shake those phobias on your own, maybe you need to go get professional help.


So you are saying radical Muslims did not do those things? You have no clue what you are talking about. I don't watch fox news and I don't like Rush Limbaugh. I don't fear Muslims any more than any other person. Every incident I described has been documented. I have seen the training videos with my own two eyes. I know good and well that not all Muslims are out to harm this nation.

I should amend my post. Islam is not a threat. The radical faction who wants to destroy western culture and who blame the US for it are a threat. When I spoke, I spoke of the radical faction. My bad for the confusion.

Maybe we can be in agreement that radical religious fundamentalism of any religion is not only just bad, but dangerous.
Religious fanaticism , as I have said before, is probably at fault for more human suffering and death than any other single thing except the Black Plague.
This preacher is the same kind of radical as the Muslim killers. Two sides of the same coin. I have no use for either of these scumbags.
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Originally posted by seeweed:
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Originally posted by wright35633:
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Originally posted by seeweed:
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Originally posted by wright35633:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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You are so full of it, I never brought religion into it other that radical islam. I believe in live and let live but make no mistake there is no living peaceably with radical islam. No all religions are not a threat like radical islam. Currently no other religion embraces violence like radial islam.

How true. Jim Jones was a muslim. Koresh was a muslim. I stand corrected. Now then, tell me exactly how Islam is threatening you.


Really? Flying planes into buildings, sending suicide bombers into crowded trains, blowing up cars, training daily for a school takeover such as the one in Russia known as the Beslan School Takeover, studying maps of small town elementary schools in their little caves, and recently trying to sneak onto a military base.



With a little change of words, you could have been describing Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols, Muslims I guess, or maybe that guy (don't know his name) , who flew his personal plane into the IRS building about a year ago - Guess Islamic radicals are to blame for that too. Was the Unibomber Muslim as well?.
My friend , it would appear you suffer from Islamaphobia (I think that is a new word), ie un-warrented fear of everything Muslim .
Crazy people in this world are not limited to their religion, Hitler was Catholic, Hirohito was his own godhead, but most likely Buddhist, those I listed above were some form of Christian, W Bush was Methodist, and the current crazies in the middle east are Islam , and of course this hateful biggot claims Christianity. I believe crazy hateful people come in all religions, and even no religions.

This phobia you suffer from was shared in some respects by the likes of Jerry Faldwell who saw a homosexual behind every tree, and the likes of Rick Santorium who sees a person wanting someone to have an abortion behind every rock.
Get a life, live and let live. Quit listening to Fox News and Rush. Learn truth, after all if you claim to be a Christian we were told in Schripture that the "truth will make you free".
If you can't shake those phobias on your own, maybe you need to go get professional help.


So you are saying radical Muslims did not do those things? You have no clue what you are talking about. I don't watch fox news and I don't like Rush Limbaugh. I don't fear Muslims any more than any other person. Every incident I described has been documented. I have seen the training videos with my own two eyes. I know good and well that not all Muslims are out to harm this nation.

I should amend my post. Islam is not a threat. The radical faction who wants to destroy western culture and who blame the US for it are a threat. When I spoke, I spoke of the radical faction. My bad for the confusion.

Maybe we can be in agreement that radical religious fundamentalism of any religion is not only just bad, but dangerous.
Religious fanaticism , as I have said before, is probably at fault for more human suffering and death than any other single thing except the Black Plague.
This preacher is the same kind of radical as the Muslim killers. Two sides of the same coin. I have no use for either of these scumbags.


I confused things by not clarifying I was speaking of radical Islamic groups. I agree with you in whole. I will add that as of right now they are our nation's biggest threat though.
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Have it your way. You want to make it appear I'm standing up for muslims. That's where you've been trying to go with it the entire time. Where did I say he should be arrested for persecuting muslims? I said he should be arrested for doing something on purpose that he KNEW would lead to violence and most likely the deaths of innocent people. And it's useless to point out to you the difference in civilized people and irrational ones. I think you really do get it, but you're like this nutjob. Because you don't like their religion you feel it's fine to mess with them about it. A true christian wouldn't defend this man.

I will never understand why the different religions just don't leave each other alone. But no, you all have to fight and run each other down. IF there really was a hell that is where all of you radical "religious" nutjobs, that includes muslims btw, would go.


My points really have nothing to do with my religious views, one of my points is the guy simply burned a book, gave his opinion about the religion, and MIGHT have said some not so nice things about the people who practice the religion (not sure about that last one). Anyway, whatever his motive was is really none of my concern, he has the right to express himself and if the uncivilized tell them not to do it or they will go on a murderous spree then I would all the more be motivated to do it. I am not really an "in your face" type but if some radical wants to dictate what my behavior can be by making threats then I am very likely to do it just to show I have my freedoms and their threats will not take them away. The message should be sent that they will not dictate to Americans what we can and cannot do and if they want to try and kill people over it then we will kill them back.
Another of my points is that we cannot go around placing blame where it does not belong, Jones played no role at all in the murders it was simply some bunch of jerks that didn’t like what he expressed and are using terrorism to silence others who may want to do the same thing. As soon as we give in to terrorism then they have won which brings me back to the killing them back thing, but worse.
As for my questions about doing the same things to other religions, that was not to accuse you of favoring muslims but it was to get you to think of how complicated and just how much freedom would have to be taken away for him to be charged with anything. We can’t just pick and choose which religions or other groups we want to be allowed to bash or practice, it’s an all or nothing thing.
Should the folks from SouthPark be prosecuted? How about the people that got “draw a picture of Mohammad day” started? Some of the radical Muslims try and antagonize us into either doing or not doing things they do not like and that type of behavior is not acceptable.
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We can’t just pick and choose which religions or other groups we want to be allowed to bash or practice, it’s an all or nothing thing.

You mean like he did?


I don't get what you mean? I was not aware he picked which one(s) we are allowed to bash or practice.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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We can’t just pick and choose which religions or other groups we want to be allowed to bash or practice, it’s an all or nothing thing.

You mean like he did?


I don't get what you mean? I was not aware he picked which one(s) we are allowed to bash or practice.
He picked the one he wanted to bash. He didn't burn a bible. He's a ruthless bastard, nuff said about him. If anyone else dies because of what he did I hope it's only him.
Jones says he had no regrets for burning the Korans, despite the deadly violence that ensued.

"Even at the expense of an American soldier... in the long run we have saved hundreds of thousands of lives," he told WFTV.com.

Jones also claims he has hundreds of death threats against him.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2...orida-koran-burning/


Maybe you can tell me what hundreds of thousands lives the old bastard thought he was saving.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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We can’t just pick and choose which religions or other groups we want to be allowed to bash or practice, it’s an all or nothing thing.

You mean like he did?


I don't get what you mean? I was not aware he picked which one(s) we are allowed to bash or practice.
He picked the one he wanted to bash. He didn't burn a bible. He's a ruthless bastard, nuff said about him. If anyone else dies because of what he did I hope it's only him.


And it's his right to choose which one(s) if any he wants to bash.
Are you also saying that he's a ruthless B--TARD because he didn't burn a Bible? Smiler Lots of people have never burned a Bible, are all of us ruthless BAST--DS for not burning one?
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Notice how jennifer still hasn't held the muslims accountable?


I can't speak for Jennifer, but if you said "the radical Muslims" instead of the more generalized "the" Muslims, I would agree they are accountable, but I hold Jones as accountable. Just as all Germans weren't Nazi's, all Muslims are not extremists.
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Originally posted by Tool:
Notice how jennifer still hasn't held the muslims accountable?


I can't speak for Jennifer, but if you said "the radical Muslims" instead of the more generalized "the" Muslims, I would agree they are accountable, but I hold Jones as accountable. Just as all Germans weren't Nazi's, all Muslims are not extremists.



muslims all have the same book. some have acted, some have not yet...the orders are in the book.

If you haven't read their book then do before you debate anymore.
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I can't speak for Jennifer, but if you said "the radical Muslims" instead of the more generalized "the" Muslims, I would agree they are accountable, but I hold Jones as accountable. Just as all Germans weren't Nazi's, all Muslims are not extremists.

That's why I say "radical faction". And yes, he is as guilty as they are, and apparently as cold hearted given he has no remorse.
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And it's his right to choose which one(s) if any he wants to bash.
Are you also saying that he's a ruthless B--TARD because he didn't burn a Bible? Lots of people have never burned a Bible, are all of us ruthless BAST--DS for not burning one?

He's ruthless because his desire for "fame" is more important to him than innocent human's lives. He's an unfeeling bastard and he should go to jail.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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And it's his right to choose which one(s) if any he wants to bash.
Are you also saying that he's a ruthless B--TARD because he didn't burn a Bible? Lots of people have never burned a Bible, are all of us ruthless BAST--DS for not burning one?

He's ruthless because his desire for "fame" is more important to him than innocent human's lives. He's an unfeeling bastard and he should go to jail.


You said "he didn't burn a Bible", I am just wondering what that has to do with your opinion of him being a ruthless B-Word.

Are you still suggesting that no one can freely speak or express their opinions about other groups and religions or are muslims just special?

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