Does that ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
quote:Originally posted by EdEKit:
Does that ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
Ed, good answer. The POWER IS MONEY is the reason bosses exploit workers, especially in this area... Bosses have the money and intend on keeping it, while they don't give a whit whether a person working for them has a sick child, or the person's child needs clothes.. because the BOSS only pays enough for the basic necessities of life.
It is so sad, that as a society, that the LOVE of money has grown much more powerful than the love of mankind... the love of the people in our lives... That is just not the way it should be.
That's why I do what I do (Union-work)- NO boss ever talks to any of my people that way-I had enough of that in Alabama-I love the fear-factor reversal that I have now- now bosses have to answer to me for their bad behavior!!! Want to feel empowered? Join the Union!!! As far as coming back there? I do have family back there and miss them dearly, but I have no desire to come back-I have a great Union job (Cingular-AT&T)- with great benefits and a great life because of it. Maybe someday, when I retire with my great benefits- I'll come home & help do organizing and educate people like bama-sunshine. I get teased alot for being from what I call the "Real South"- (the sterotype because of peolpe like bama-sunshine have caused)but I tell people that not all country bumkins are country bumkins. The managers that I have put in their place will attest to that! 
That's my girl, you go kid.
quote:Originally posted by fleaze:
That's why I do what I do (Union-work)- NO boss ever talks to any of my people that way-I had enough of that in Alabama-I love the fear-factor reversal that I have now- now bosses have to answer to me for their bad behavior!!! Want to feel empowered? Join the Union!!! As far as coming back there? I do have family back there and miss them dearly, but I have no desire to come back-I have a great Union job (Cingular-AT&T)- with great benefits and a great life because of it. Maybe someday, when I retire with my great benefits- I'll come home & help do organizing and educate people like bama-sunshine. I get teased alot for being from what I call the "Real South"- (the sterotype because of peolpe like bama-sunshine have caused)but I tell people that not all country bumkins are country bumkins. The managers that I have put in their place will attest to that!
Now that would be poetic justice... bamasunshine working FOR fleaze... I would LOVE to see that... he couldnt take it a week, eh??? LOLOLOLOLOL
Fleaze, you have my umost respect.
Being a Union worker, I KNOW how real people behave, then looking out over the rest of the parts of our city/county, I see people being treated worse than the Boss's dog.
It infuriates me, but THAT all comes from people who thought they could do away with the union and believed that if they did, the bosses would treat them right.... HELLO!!! You got messed over, and not just bad, but double bad!...
UNIONIZE people, get protection, get help, get benefits, make it to where you CAN take care of your children.
quote:Originally posted by jcharr:
That's my girl, you go kid.
Love you Dad! Thanks again for your support- had no idea you were fighting the battle about child support on here! That's my DAD, you go pop!
quote:Originally posted by fleaze:quote:Originally posted by jcharr:
That's my girl, you go kid.
Love you Dad! Thanks again for your support- had no idea you were fighting the battle about child support on here! That's my DAD, you go pop!
Awww, that was nice to read!!!
Union dues are nothing compared to what benefits you get out of the deal- better pay-better benefits- representation on the job- the power of brother/sister hood. I love what I do, I call myself an un-paid defense attorney and a lot of times a very thankless job, but I enjoy fighting for the little guy-there is so much self-satisfaction I get when I am able to obtain justice for a worker, it makes it all worth it. We don't win every battle, but its the ones we do win that keep me going. People need to unite and feel the power! Stop letting big business eat all the pie!!! Make them share!!
Unions, thank God for them.
My dad worked for Reynolds for 35 years. Under the contract in place when he retired, he has not lost any of his benifits. The drug coverage alone has been worth thousands.
If it were not for his retirement check there would be no way he could still live at home with me. He would beforced into a nurshing home and given his love of being home, he would have passed away long ago.
It will be 6 years in Feb. when he had his stroke. I know now that these years are a bonus for not just him but all the family.
So how do I feel about unions? I really do thank the good Lord every day for them.
And It hurts me to see what has happened over the last few years. The folks that retired under a different contract than dad have had benifits reduced. I can't see how people are going to be able to enjoy retirement unless they have be faithful in saving the max in an IRA, or have a really good 401k.
My dad worked for Reynolds for 35 years. Under the contract in place when he retired, he has not lost any of his benifits. The drug coverage alone has been worth thousands.
If it were not for his retirement check there would be no way he could still live at home with me. He would beforced into a nurshing home and given his love of being home, he would have passed away long ago.
It will be 6 years in Feb. when he had his stroke. I know now that these years are a bonus for not just him but all the family.
So how do I feel about unions? I really do thank the good Lord every day for them.
And It hurts me to see what has happened over the last few years. The folks that retired under a different contract than dad have had benifits reduced. I can't see how people are going to be able to enjoy retirement unless they have be faithful in saving the max in an IRA, or have a really good 401k.
I also retired from Reynolds Metals. I was a salaried employee. (Non-Union) I feel that most of our benefits were derived because of Labors efforts for Union workers that we also shared in the benefits of our jobs and benefits. Thanks for the comments of all you on behalf of Fleaze's comments.
quote:Originally posted by jcharr:
I also retired from Reynolds Metals. I was a salaried employee. (Non-Union) I feel that most of our benefits were derived because of Labors efforts for Union workers that we also shared in the benefits of our jobs and benefits. Thanks for the comments of all you on behalf of Fleaze's comments.
My Dad retired from Reynolds also jcharr... He started Union, but after a few years, started climbing the ladder and going salary and then going into mgt. It put the bread and butter on our table during my growing up years...
He retired before Reynolds sold out to Wise, and I AM VERY GLAD he did... When Reynolds sold, it was like part of our very own family gone...
I guess in a way, it still is because it is so different over there from what my friends tell me.
And another look at unions.When I was young I didn't support unions.I guess I had little knowledge of the 'big picture'. Kennedy said something about a rising tide lifts all ships.
The same can said about unions. Even if the place you work is non-union you can still thank a union for the wage you make.
A company will pay higher wages to their workers to avoid having to deal with an union. So if you work at company x and make 15 or 16 bucks an hour. Thank one of the local unions that made it happen.
The same can said about unions. Even if the place you work is non-union you can still thank a union for the wage you make.
A company will pay higher wages to their workers to avoid having to deal with an union. So if you work at company x and make 15 or 16 bucks an hour. Thank one of the local unions that made it happen.
quote:Originally posted by pba:quote:Originally posted by stupid people suck:
I just want peoples opinion on Unions. Are they really worth the money you pay in dues each week? Any comment or opinion about Unions is valuable..
As you might already know the rightwing republicans are not for the unions. In 1980 President Reagan took the union power away. I'm not sure about the power the union may have in a work place, but I'm sure its not as strong as it once was. you need to do a google on the histroy of the unions it tells alot.
Amidst the continued outpouring of praise for Ronald Reagan, let's not forget that he was one of the most anti-labor presidents in U.S. history, a role model for the virulently anti-labor George W. Bush.
Republican presidents never have had much regard for unions, which almost invariably have opposed their election. But until Reagan, no GOP president had dared to challenge labor's firm legal standing, gained through Democratic President Franklin D. Roosevelt in the mid-1930s.
Reagan's Republican predecessors treated union leaders much as they treated Democratic members of Congress -- as people to be fought with at times, but also as people to be bargained with at other times. But Reagan engaged in precious little bargaining. He waged almost continuous war against organized labor.
He had little apparent reason to fear labor politically, with opinion polls at the time showing that unions were opposed by nearly half of all Americans and that nearly half of those who belonged to the unions had voted for him in 1980 and again in 1984.
Reagan,in any case, was a true ideologue of the anti-labor political right. Yes, he had been president of the Screen Actors Guild, but he was notoriously pro-management, leading the way to a strike-ending agreement in 1959 that greatly weakened the union and finally resigning under membership pressure before his term ended.
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What about the fact Ford left the area because of the unions?
If it werent for Reagan, Harley Davidson and Chrysler would be gone. The USSR would own us.
and we'd have Carters legacy of 21 percent inflatino driving us to disaster
quote:Originally posted by Reflecting One of the voices i:
What about the fact Ford left the area because of the unions?
If it werent for Reagan, Harley Davidson and Chrysler would be gone. The USSR would own us.
and we'd have Carters legacy of 21 percent inflatino driving us to disaster
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What is that I smell? Phew! It's a Red Herring!
Ford left this area because of Unions??? Where did they go? To another union plant, or overseas where they can pay slave wages! You non-union people make me sick because you want to have all the benefits that were fought for, without any of the sacrifice. Ford asked for concessions from the union to keep the plant open. The entire time they were going to shut down the plant whether they got concessions or not. It was simply a matter of excess capacity. Poor management is what closed that plant, and was exactly what was going to close Chrysler & HD. Excuse me if I think my children deserve to eat just like yours do. I work hard to make the owner of my union facility a millionare. All I ask in return is a safe work place, a living wage, and a chance to retire.
to reflecting, You seem to be an intellegent human. So,ask the teachers of Alabama or any state in the south.About how unions help them. Now don't get me wrong bad or lazy teachers give a bad name to the whole profession. But as a whole teachers do a whale of a job.Bless them
quote:Originally posted by sal:
Ford left this area because of Unions??? Where did they go? To another union plant, or overseas where they can pay slave wages! You non-union people make me sick because you want to have all the benefits that were fought for, without any of the sacrifice. Ford asked for concessions from the union to keep the plant open. The entire time they were going to shut down the plant whether they got concessions or not. It was simply a matter of excess capacity. Poor management is what closed that plant, and was exactly what was going to close Chrysler & HD. Excuse me if I think my children deserve to eat just like yours do. I work hard to make the owner of my union facility a millionare. All I ask in return is a safe work place, a living wage, and a chance to retire.
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sal, I echo your comments about Ford. In your last statement, you mentioned your (very reasonable) request for a "safe workplace." I would point out that scores of former Ford workers later developed quite a spectrum of health problems as a result of the working conditions there (mesothilioma, emphysema, etc.). My understanding is that the Union did what it could to help better the situation. Eventually, there was a class-action lawsuit filed against Ford by those who had suffered these ill effects. The Union afforded support for these workers on many levels throughout this time because a safe workplace is something they fought long and hard to provide. Apparently, the Ford executives did not share the same concern for their employees.
Thanks to the unions all of the jobs have left the country. Floozie, that is a nice pic of you in the sports section of these forums under the topic of "Auburn Fans feel it Slippin". No wonder your man left you. We REDNECKS as you call us living here in the Shoals don't need folks like you here. You just stay in Texas with the illegals and keep whining about child support! LOL
You must be a liberal democrat that wants
someone else to pay for your mistake. Do your self a favor and let the guy from your one night stand alone. You write like your are so miserable that you are trying to drag a good guy down with you. I'm glad people like you don't live in the Shoals.
You must be a liberal democrat that wants
someone else to pay for your mistake. Do your self a favor and let the guy from your one night stand alone. You write like your are so miserable that you are trying to drag a good guy down with you. I'm glad people like you don't live in the Shoals.
Floozie, you typed RENECK, if that is what you think about the Shoals area then I hope you have a happy little life living in Texaco with all the illegals. You write as though your are more country as cornbread. You must like something about this area, either the life or your ex-husband. Why do you visit these forums? If you will go to the sports section of these forums and look under the topic of "Auburn Fans Feel It Slippin away" you will see a picture posted that your ex-husband took of you. You sure are a pretty thing.
The only people that like unions in these times are it's members. Union members are the reason jobs have gone out of this country. With big unhealthy folks like yourself in the unions there is no wonder why jobs are going out of the country.
The only people that like unions in these times are it's members. Union members are the reason jobs have gone out of this country. With big unhealthy folks like yourself in the unions there is no wonder why jobs are going out of the country.
This is a very tough subject. Because I work for a non union car maker I can speak from experience. If a company treats you like a person there is no need for a union. We all know the troubles that GM and Ford are experiencing right now. They are directly related to the concessions made by the car companies during the last 20 years. We are in a global economy. If a company cannot make a profit then they will move to where they can. Its a simple as that. Why are so many companies outsourcing to India? It helps them defray certain costs so they can keep their doors open. Its hard to find high paying manufacturing jobs these days. I will do what ever it takes to help my company be profitable because I know its only a matter of time before they cannot compete.
Speaking about teachers unions, most teachers only join for the lawsuit protection that comes with it. As far as benefits, there are none. They are highly underpaid and the union has done nothing about it.
Speaking about teachers unions, most teachers only join for the lawsuit protection that comes with it. As far as benefits, there are none. They are highly underpaid and the union has done nothing about it.
Speaking about teachers unions, most teachers only join for the lawsuit protection that comes with it. As far as benefits, there are none. They are highly underpaid and the union has done nothing about it.[/QUOTE]
The largest "special interest group in the state of Alabama is the AEA. Teachers have it made. The pay some of the lowest cost for good health insurance there is. They are off from work 3 months out of the year. They get raises when the state is broke. I dang sure don't get a raise if my company is not making money. Don't feel to sorry for teachers. Besides, they are supposed to be teaching for ethical reasons not money.
The largest "special interest group in the state of Alabama is the AEA. Teachers have it made. The pay some of the lowest cost for good health insurance there is. They are off from work 3 months out of the year. They get raises when the state is broke. I dang sure don't get a raise if my company is not making money. Don't feel to sorry for teachers. Besides, they are supposed to be teaching for ethical reasons not money.
Bama sunshine: Take NOTE: YOU ARE An "IDIOT" period. There is no doubt I'm sure, DADDY propped you up to give you a chance (because I'm sure HE was either too DRUNK or DRUGGED-UP to do it himself) at making a living to start that "Port a Potty" business you own,as this is the only type of business you could do I'm sure. Now, go stick your head in one of those HOLES
Semper Fi 333
Semper Fi 333
Sir, as a response to your comments of late, indeed I do have an education, a college education, one of the degrees being a bachelor in organizational management. Again sir, my "daddy" did not prop me up in business. Finally Sir, it certainly causes question in my mind. Why another human being would choose as a method of attack to take “ pot shots” at my deceased father. The only answer that comes to mind sir is THE UNEDUCATED ONE IS YOU, further more I would not be ashamed to have a “ pot-a-potty” business. I do not.
Sir, if I did, I would love to stuff a “kitty cat like you” down one and flush it to hell. Please realize that “ kitty cat” is and anomaly.
Sir, if I did, I would love to stuff a “kitty cat like you” down one and flush it to hell. Please realize that “ kitty cat” is and anomaly.
quote:Originally posted by dbt123:quote:Originally posted by Reflecting One of the voices i:
What about the fact Ford left the area because of the unions?
If it werent for Reagan, Harley Davidson and Chrysler would be gone. The USSR would own us.
and we'd have Carters legacy of 21 percent inflatino driving us to disaster
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What is that I smell? Phew! It's a Red Herring!
Yep, I think you are right!!!!
quote:Originally posted by 71golf:
This is a very tough subject. Because I work for a non union car maker I can speak from experience. If a company treats you like a person there is no need for a union. We all know the troubles that GM and Ford are experiencing right now. They are directly related to the concessions made by the car companies during the last 20 years. We are in a global economy. If a company cannot make a profit then they will move to where they can. Its a simple as that. Why are so many companies outsourcing to India? It helps them defray certain costs so they can keep their doors open. Its hard to find high paying manufacturing jobs these days. I will do what ever it takes to help my company be profitable because I know its only a matter of time before they cannot compete.
Speaking about teachers unions, most teachers only join for the lawsuit protection that comes with it. As far as benefits, there are none. They are highly underpaid and the union has done nothing about it.
I know you actually believe all that ... but believe me, with the non-union places in this area, the people are literally THREATENED if they even THINK of Unionizing... it is very scary for them, and their employers tell them crap a mile long so they buy into the "company" brain!!
I know because I have several very frustrated friends and family who have been in that situation, and 3 different ones, working for 3 different companies heard the SAME speeches, verbatem, ... SAME SPEECH mind you... that leads me to believe employers in this area, who don't want to PAY UP, gets a copy of that NON UNION speech to brainwash their employees with....
Kinda reminds me of that hypnotism they advertise to quit smoking... same theory involved.
I will tell you one thing that is God's honest truth, there is absolutely NO way you would be posting this post right here in today's time, if our forefathers who fought, bled, and died to abolish sweat shops and get people the paychecks they needed to support a family... birth of the Middle Class America..
Now that Dubbya is doing what he is doing, and 28% of the people are just following him with blank stares and nods, it is causing what will probably be called the "FALL OF THE MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA 2007-2008"
I am by NO means putting you down for any word you spoke in this comment... I have heard it so many times before it is unreal. But you are giving your company credit for treating you right, and paying you pretty good wages, when in fact, it is the FEAR of Unionization that keeps them on the straight and narrow.
Unionizing is by VOTE, not by company's choice in the VAST majority of times.
There is a great amount of how unions were formed, what the poor guys who fought for them, and the concession of the USA to recognize the UNION of the People...
UNION, wow, would that not be a wonderful thing if everyone came together in UNION, and now I am not meaning a Local Union Office, now I am meaning just LIFE... but, alas, it all goes hand-in-hand ... but the bottom line is:
THE RICH GET RICHER, THE MIDDLE CLASS IS CRUMBLING BEFORE YOUR VERY EYES, AND THE POOR GET POORER... Sad state our country has been put in these last six years, very sad indeed.
quote:Originally posted by Bama Sunshine:
Speaking about teachers unions, most teachers only join for the lawsuit protection that comes with it. As far as benefits, there are none. They are highly underpaid and the union has done nothing about it.
The largest "special interest group in the state of Alabama is the AEA. Teachers have it made. The pay some of the lowest cost for good health insurance there is. They are off from work 3 months out of the year. They get raises when the state is broke. I dang sure don't get a raise if my company is not making money. Don't feel to sorry for teachers. Besides, they are supposed to be teaching for ethical reasons not money.[/QUOTE]
After reading all your replies here on this post, I have come to the conclusion that you DESERVE NO reply, but I do have a few things to say before I IGNORE your sorry chauvinist, racist mind: you are a jerk, a racist, a male chauvanist and probably have your illegals working for you for penance and a piece of your redneck cornbread, ...
You are pathetic to have to talk to people the way you do... you are an assaulter of this Forum, which is Against TimesDaily Rules, and you should be banned from NORMAL peoples
conversations...
FEEL THE POWER YET, BUBBA???
Oh, and please DO NOT reply back to me because it will not do you any good, I WILL NOT see it, YOU ARE ON IGNORE!!!
quote:Originally posted by stupid people suck:
I just want peoples opinion on Unions. Are they really worth the money you pay in dues each week? Any comment or opinion about Unions is valuable..
As a retired teacher, I rarely agreed with ANYTHING that the NEA stood/stands for. However, the $1,000,000 liability insurance afforded as well as PAID attorneys sure helped me sleep through some trying times. A teacher in today's 'sue happy' climate would have to be insane NOT to be a member.
quote:The largest "special interest group in the state of Alabama is the AEA. Teachers have it made. The pay some of the lowest cost for good health insurance there is. They are off from work 3 months out of the year. They get raises when the state is broke. I dang sure don't get a raise if my company is not making money.
Don't feel to sorry for teachers. Besides, they are supposed to be teaching for ethical reasons not money.
TRY teaching some time before you open your mouth and prove how little you know of the subject. As for the '3 months off', it's UNPAID.
FWIW, the last time I bought groceries, WalMart wanted $$$, not a lesson in ethics.
quote:Originally posted by Bama Sunshine:
Sir, as a response to your comments of late, indeed I do have an education, a college education, one of the degrees being a bachelor in organizational management. Again sir, my "daddy" did not prop me up in business. Finally Sir, it certainly causes question in my mind. Why another human being would choose as a method of attack to take “ pot shots” at my deceased father. The only answer that comes to mind sir is THE UNEDUCATED ONE IS YOU, further more I would not be ashamed to have a “ pot-a-potty” business. I do not.
Sir, if I did, I would love to stuff a “kitty cat like you” down one and flush it to hell. Please realize that “ kitty cat” is and anomaly.
OMG!!! I am still reading/replying to this post, and you just keep getting worse... this is about power isn't it??? You gotta have your power???? You gotta rule everyone's lives on here???
I, ANDYOU, IF YOU ARE COLLEGE EDUCATED, know that this person didn't have any idea that your father was no longer here, what delldude said, (Educated people anyway) was just a phrase to get you to understand what a jerk you are being.
I am sorry about your father, I do have a heart, but the way you are acting, one has to wonder just WHY you have such a poisonious typing system??? WHY are you so mean?
Mean, abusive, racist, chauvinistic, AND ADD that you have WEIRD ideas about your "ANOMALIES"...
Again, please dont bother replying to me, YOU are on ignore, but the comments you left here can still be seen, for now... IGNORE will kick in soon... Thank God!!!!
quote:Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:quote:Originally posted by stupid people suck:
I just want peoples opinion on Unions. Are they really worth the money you pay in dues each week? Any comment or opinion about Unions is valuable..
As a retired teacher, I rarely agreed with ANYTHING that the NEA stood/stands for. However, the $1,000,000 liability insurance afforded as well as PAID attorneys sure helped me sleep through some trying times. A teacher in today's 'sue happy' climate would have to be insane NOT to be a member.
dogsoldier.... yes, that liability insurance is a good thing for the teachers Unions, which my daughter-in-law is part of... but so is salaries... but with Riley in office, my friend, your raises will NOT be swift,
... My Union is not perfect, but it sure is nice just to KNOW they are there to help wade through the Employer/Big Business Crap... It is nice to have avenue's to go through, and it is nice to have someone negotiate the yearly raises. But like I said, they aren't perfect, and they have, over the years gotten 'greedy' themselves. But its the best thing going in this area... hands down.
quote:Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:quote:The largest "special interest group in the state of Alabama is the AEA. Teachers have it made. The pay some of the lowest cost for good health insurance there is. They are off from work 3 months out of the year. They get raises when the state is broke. I dang sure don't get a raise if my company is not making money.
Don't feel to sorry for teachers. Besides, they are supposed to be teaching for ethical reasons not money.
TRY teaching some time before you open your mouth and prove how little you know of the subject. As for the '3 months off', it's UNPAID.
FWIW, the last time I bought groceries, WalMart wanted $$$, not a lesson in ethics.
dogsoldier, my friend, very good answers to this 'person claiming education'...
I only have one thing to say about it though... I stopped Walmart several months ago, and do NOT miss it a bit, in fact, I can literally SAVE money on groceries with coupons and FOODLAND...
... Walmart has so much on their shelves made in Tiawan and China, that I cannot with a good conscience even give one penny to their HUGE HUGE BUSINESS hypocracy anymore. I was dedicated to them when Sam Walton was alive, but the changes are evident, and I cannot abide by them....One thing I agree with Mott on, is her signature and that is "BUY AMERICAN FROM AMERICANS"... that is one great quote!!!
For Bama Sunshine (its dark) First and foremost you are educated far beyond your intelligence.
Secondly Fleaze was and still is a decent and respected person. You cannot even comprehend what bridges she has crossed.
don't even think for one that minute you could ever have the backbone and constitution she has. You probably know how easy it is to beat up women. You do need to get a grip.
Secondly Fleaze was and still is a decent and respected person. You cannot even comprehend what bridges she has crossed.
don't even think for one that minute you could ever have the backbone and constitution she has. You probably know how easy it is to beat up women. You do need to get a grip.
To bama sunshine- I totally agree with kindred spirit- But I'd like to add something- Opinions are like ********-everybody has one and you obviously have yours...too bad you don't have the brains to say something intelligent- you should educate yourself a little bit before you speak on ANY subject. It's people like you that give red-necks a bad name. I am proud of my Alabama upbringing and yes- I love cornbread-who from Alabama doesn't?? As far as the illegals I live with here in Texas? I'd much rather have one of them for a neighbor than to have a jerk like you next door!!! There is a huge misconception about the Hispanic culture that most people in Alabama don't undertand..you think they're all dirty nasty illegals..most of the Hispanic people here in Texas are "clean". It's unfortunate that the ones that have come to Alabama to work in the poultry plants are the poorest of the poor from Mexico thus giving the impression that all "Mexicans" are that way. It's not true. I have several Hispanic friends who are considered upper middle class and are educated and hold good jobs and they pay taxes just like you & me. They are also alot more intelligent than you!!! I'm not going to visit the Auburn fan forum- not a fan at all- should have guessed you were--Roll Tide!!!
quote:Originally posted by jcharr:
For Bama Sunshine (its dark) First and foremost you are educated far beyond your intelligence.
Secondly Fleaze was and still is a decent and respected person. You cannot even comprehend what bridges she has crossed.
don't even think for one that minute you could ever have the backbone and constitution she has. You probably know how easy it is to beat up women. You do need to get a grip.
jcharr, I personally dont think that man is intelligent at all to be so abusive to a woman who has made some HUGE accomplishments in her life, REGARDLESS of her trials and tribulations!!!!
Your daughter is the one that has the intelligence here, not the person you are referring to... I relate to her circumstances, especially since she has told me more about it...
Your daughter is to be RESPECTED instead of flamed, and BamaSunshine was totally out of line, abusive, chauvinistic, among other things, but fleaze is strong, very smart, and she knows how to handle "animals"... jealous ones at that!!
You are a very nice man to say the words you do, but you CAN speak your mind without the Admins saying anything...
I think anyone on this forum can and would understand a father upholding his daughter against the attacks that bamasunshine gave her... I am vocal, and I will take up for her in a New York second!!! I relate to her, I understand her plights of life, and I admire her for pushing past the 'programs' and MAKING a life for her and her children!!!!
You can be proud of that one!!!
quote:Originally posted by fleaze:
To bama sunshine- I totally agree with kindred spirit- But I'd like to add something- Opinions are like A#%holes-everybody has one and you obviously have yours...too bad you don't have the brains to say something intelligent- you should educate yourself a little bit before you speak on ANY subject. It's people like you that give red-necks a bad name. I am proud of my Alabama upbringing and yes- I love cornbread-who from Alabama doesn't?? As far as the illegals I live with here in Texas? I'd much rather have one of them for a neighbor than to have a jerk like you next door!!! There is a huge misconception about the Hispanic culture that most people in Alabama don't undertand..you think they're all dirty nasty illegals..most of the Hispanic people here in Texas are "clean". It's unfortunate that the ones that have come to Alabama to work in the poultry plants are the poorest of the poor from Mexico thus giving the impression that all "Mexicans" are that way. It's not true. I have several Hispanic friends who are considered upper middle class and are educated and hold good jobs and they pay taxes just like you & me. They are also alot more intelligent than you!!! I'm not going to visit the Auburn fan forum- not a fan at all- should have guessed you were--Roll Tide!!!
Fleaze, you said that PERFECTLY!!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:quote:Originally posted by Bama Sunshine:
Speaking about teachers unions, most teachers only join for the lawsuit protection that comes with it. As far as benefits, there are none. They are highly underpaid and the union has done nothing about it.
The largest "special interest group in the state of Alabama is the AEA. Teachers have it made. The pay some of the lowest cost for good health insurance there is. They are off from work 3 months out of the year. They get raises when the state is broke. I dang sure don't get a raise if my company is not making money. Don't feel to sorry for teachers. Besides, they are supposed to be teaching for ethical reasons not money.
After reading all your replies here on this post, I have come to the conclusion that you DESERVE NO reply, but I do have a few things to say before I IGNORE your sorry chauvinist, racist mind: you are a jerk, a racist, a male chauvanist and probably have your illegals working for you for penance and a piece of your redneck cornbread, ...
You are pathetic to have to talk to people the way you do... you are an assaulter of this Forum, which is Against TimesDaily Rules, and you should be banned from NORMAL peoples
conversations...
FEEL THE POWER YET, BUBBA???
Oh, and please DO NOT reply back to me because it will not do you any good, I WILL NOT see it, YOU ARE ON IGNORE!!! [/QUOTE]
Without the AEA the preachers, and politicians would control what is taught in our schools.
quote:Originally posted by Teggere:quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:quote:Originally posted by Bama Sunshine:
Speaking about teachers unions, most teachers only join for the lawsuit protection that comes with it. As far as benefits, there are none. They are highly underpaid and the union has done nothing about it.
The largest "special interest group in the state of Alabama is the AEA. Teachers have it made. The pay some of the lowest cost for good health insurance there is. They are off from work 3 months out of the year. They get raises when the state is broke. I dang sure don't get a raise if my company is not making money. Don't feel to sorry for teachers. Besides, they are supposed to be teaching for ethical reasons not money.
After reading all your replies here on this post, I have come to the conclusion that you DESERVE NO reply, but I do have a few things to say before I IGNORE your sorry chauvinist, racist mind: you are a jerk, a racist, a male chauvanist and probably have your illegals working for you for penance and a piece of your redneck cornbread, ...
You are pathetic to have to talk to people the way you do... you are an assaulter of this Forum, which is Against TimesDaily Rules, and you should be banned from NORMAL peoples
conversations...
FEEL THE POWER YET, BUBBA???
Oh, and please DO NOT reply back to me because it will not do you any good, I WILL NOT see it, YOU ARE ON IGNORE!!!
quote:Without the AEA the preachers, and politicians would control what is taught in our schools.
Teggere, I am not trying to be rude, but what did MY reply have to do with what you commented???
And another thing... I may be getting old and all, but your comment makes absolutely NO sense to me at all...
I have lived in this area most of my life and I have always been a Redneck.
quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:quote:Originally posted by Teggere:quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:quote:Originally posted by Bama Sunshine:
Speaking about teachers unions, most teachers only join for the lawsuit protection that comes with it. As far as benefits, there are none. They are highly underpaid and the union has done nothing about it.
I'm kinda old myself, and sometimes I have to think things through. BTW you may be getting senile.
The largest "special interest group in the state of Alabama is the AEA. Teachers have it made. The pay some of the lowest cost for good health insurance there is. They are off from work 3 months out of the year. They get raises when the state is broke. I dang sure don't get a raise if my company is not making money. Don't feel to sorry for teachers. Besides, they are supposed to be teaching for ethical reasons not money.
After reading all your replies here on this post, I have come to the conclusion that you DESERVE NO reply, but I do have a few things to say before I IGNORE your sorry chauvinist, racist mind: you are a jerk, a racist, a male chauvanist and probably have your illegals working for you for penance and a piece of your redneck cornbread, ...
You are pathetic to have to talk to people the way you do... you are an assaulter of this Forum, which is Against TimesDaily Rules, and you should be banned from NORMAL peoples
conversations...
FEEL THE POWER YET, BUBBA???
Oh, and please DO NOT reply back to me because it will not do you any good, I WILL NOT see it, YOU ARE ON IGNORE!!!quote:Without the AEA the preachers, and politicians would control what is taught in our schools.
Teggere, I am not trying to be rude, but what did MY reply have to do with what you commented???
And another thing... I may be getting old and all, but your comment makes absolutely NO sense to me at all...
quote:Originally posted by Teggere:
I have lived in this area most of my life and I have always been a Redneck.
But WHAT is your point?
A LOT of us have lived here seemingly FOREVER too.