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Originally posted by dbt123:
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Originally posted by sal:
Ford left this area because of Unions??? Where did they go? To another union plant, or overseas where they can pay slave wages! You non-union people make me sick because you want to have all the benefits that were fought for, without any of the sacrifice. Ford asked for concessions from the union to keep the plant open. The entire time they were going to shut down the plant whether they got concessions or not. It was simply a matter of excess capacity. Poor management is what closed that plant, and was exactly what was going to close Chrysler & HD. Excuse me if I think my children deserve to eat just like yours do. I work hard to make the owner of my union facility a millionare. All I ask in return is a safe work place, a living wage, and a chance to retire.

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sal, I echo your comments about Ford. In your last statement, you mentioned your (very reasonable) request for a "safe workplace." I would point out that scores of former Ford workers later developed quite a spectrum of health problems as a result of the working conditions there (mesothilioma, emphysema, etc.). My understanding is that the Union did what it could to help better the situation. Eventually, there was a class-action lawsuit filed against Ford by those who had suffered these ill effects. The Union afforded support for these workers on many levels throughout this time because a safe workplace is something they fought long and hard to provide. Apparently, the Ford executives did not share the same concern for their employees.


Ford left because of poor quality control, and the fact that they put so much poison in the ground they knew it was time to get the hell out of Dodge, and let someone else clean up the mess.
Ford left because it was financially expediant for them to do so. Yes, they left their mess... but they left, but you think they cared? Heck no!!! They only cared about the financial aspect. We could have kept them, (EVEN with their mess) but our political figures at the time was too lazy to figure that one out.

Then they went other places to their UNION jobs...
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
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The largest "special interest group in the state of Alabama is the AEA. Teachers have it made. The pay some of the lowest cost for good health insurance there is. They are off from work 3 months out of the year. They get raises when the state is broke. I dang sure don't get a raise if my company is not making money.
Don't feel to sorry for teachers. Besides, they are supposed to be teaching for ethical reasons not money.


TRY teaching some time before you open your mouth and prove how little you know of the subject. As for the '3 months off', it's UNPAID.

FWIW, the last time I bought groceries, WalMart wanted $$$, not a lesson in ethics.


I did not say that it was paid time off. The AEA is a crooked organization that feeds off of land owners.
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Originally posted by Teggere:
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by Bama Sunshine:
Speaking about teachers unions, most teachers only join for the lawsuit protection that comes with it. As far as benefits, there are none. They are highly underpaid and the union has done nothing about it.


The largest "special interest group in the state of Alabama is the AEA. Teachers have it made. The pay some of the lowest cost for good health insurance there is. They are off from work 3 months out of the year. They get raises when the state is broke. I dang sure don't get a raise if my company is not making money. Don't feel to sorry for teachers. Besides, they are supposed to be teaching for ethical reasons not money.


After reading all your replies here on this post, I have come to the conclusion that you DESERVE NO reply, but I do have a few things to say before I IGNORE your sorry chauvinist, racist mind: you are a jerk, a racist, a male chauvanist and probably have your illegals working for you for penance and a piece of your redneck cornbread, ...

You are pathetic to have to talk to people the way you do... you are an assaulter of this Forum, which is Against TimesDaily Rules, and you should be banned from NORMAL peoples
conversations...

FEEL THE POWER YET, BUBBA???

Oh, and please DO NOT reply back to me because it will not do you any good, I WILL NOT see it, YOU ARE ON IGNORE!!!
  



Without the AEA the preachers, and politicians would control what is taught in our schools.[/QUOTE]

You are an IDIOT, I'm a female and a mom. You need to get off your butt and get a job that requires some physical activity and brain power.
IGNORE that! Red Face
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
Ford left because it was financially expediant for them to do so. Yes, they left their mess... but they left, but you think they cared? Heck no!!! They only cared about the financial aspect. We could have kept them, (EVEN with their mess) but our political figures at the time was too lazy to figure that one out.

Then they went other places to their UNION jobs...



Ford left because of all the toxic mess they left,plus for low wage else where. turn off the tv and read!
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Originally posted by Bama Sunshine:



After reading all your replies here on this post, I have come to the conclusion that you DESERVE NO reply, but I do have a few things to say before I IGNORE your sorry chauvinist, racist mind: you are a jerk, a racist, a male chauvanist and probably have your illegals working for you for penance and a piece of your redneck cornbread, ...

You are pathetic to have to talk to people the way you do... you are an assaulter of this Forum, which is Against TimesDaily Rules, and you should be banned from NORMAL peoples
conversations...

FEEL THE POWER YET, BUBBA???

Oh, and please DO NOT reply back to me because it will not do you any good, I WILL NOT see it, YOU ARE ON IGNORE!!!
  



Without the AEA the preachers, and politicians would control what is taught in our schools.[/QUOTE]

You are an IDIOT, I'm a female and a mom. You need to get off your butt and get a job that requires some physical activity and brain power.
IGNORE that! Red Face[/QUOTE]

Okay, someone tell me why the IGNORE isn't working today???

Oh, but in a way I am so glad it isn't.. because let me tell YOU ONE thing... An idiot I am not, I would hate to have to prove that in public... And as your being a female and a Mom, ACT LIKE ONE... instead of run around calling names and putting everyone down. You must have a man in your life who is chauvinistic because if you ARE female, you `are the first one I have met that is AGAINST females being in the Unions to make the money it takes to take care of their children ...HMMMMM.... I am not going to try to profile you here, but I absolutely KNOW for sure now why you have made the idiotic remarks you have made on this post...

Get off my butt and get a job? What drug are YOU on???? Or can you NOT read???

I have already told you that I am a member of a Union, and have had a JOB for 27 years... OHHHHHH but I guess you missed that part, eh??? LOL!!!!

And I shall only say one more thing, some might consider it bragging, but Union scale is VERY good... Good enough to raise 3 kids who never did without... Good enough to have a nice, in fact, VERY nice home... vehicle... and a great reputation in my community and on my job.

I am not the one who needs to get off my butt and get a job... I probably have more in my retirement fund than you have ever made in your entire life. My job is extremely physical.

But sadly, I think you are answering any womanon this post so negatively is because WE are who YOU wish you could be, and you chose another path.... one, it seems, makes you a miserable human being... I really feel sorry for you... Maybe when you are more AT youself, you can read each reply here, very carefully, ... then you might be able to understand why you are getting bad replies thrown your way.

I actually feel sorry for you, and I don't usually feel sorry for people... but I will make an acception in your case.... I have a couple of friends who talk like YOU do, but the way they have to LIVE is a different matter. You sound just like one of my best friends who is very gutsy when hubby isn't around... but when he is... well, I am just going to hush now, because I don't know you.

Oh, and just one question??? WHY are you so down on women who are forced into the working life, who has to take (in the past) male dominated jobs so they canmake the kind of money that their kids deserve? Why does that bother you? I just don't understand. The men on here are very kind and understanding, but not you... Why are you slinging stones our way? I have never been ugly to you, until this post... and I hope it never happens again, because getting upset over the computer is just silly.
Kindred_Spirit, With all due respect, I read your frustrations to the individual who started
the post Without the AEA the preachers, and politicians would control what is taught in our schools. If I may make a suggestion, go back and read what happened to the unions. The unions cut their own throat when they voted for Raegan. And let me say this, and I'm not trying to be smart or ugly, but most people are not educated as to what is taking place with government, and I don't mean this as a slur or to be ugly, but do a little investigation as to what happened. I think this person is really trying to get you to think and not be ugly about it. I've tried to do the same but you take it personal. The people on the right wing, the all conservative bunch, has gotten many people to believe things that they shouldn't believe. For an example, when you watch a movie, try to figure out how political that movie may be to scare you in so many ways. For an example, how cops play in movies to break the law in order to enforce the law. Do you see the point I'm leading up to? Would you want your sheriff to break a law in order to enforce a law and to avoid the courts? You have propaganda from advertisements, movies, and of course, the news media. Just try to open your eyes. When you see a post, ask yourself, I wonder why they think like this? Maybe I need to check into this. If we would take more time to learn what we read instead of criticizing it and finding something wrong with it, we could learn so much. But everybody thinks everything is ok. Take a look around. I don't think so.
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Originally posted by pba:
Kindred_Spirit, With all due respect, I read your frustrations to the individual who started
the post Without the AEA the preachers, and politicians would control what is taught in our schools. If I may make a suggestion, go back and read what happened to the unions. The unions cut their own throat when they voted for Raegan. And let me say this, and I'm not trying to be smart or ugly, but most people are not educated as to what is taking place with government, and I don't mean this as a slur or to be ugly, but do a little investigation as to what happened. I think this person is really trying to get you to think and not be ugly about it. I've tried to do the same but you take it personal. The people on the right wing, the all conservative bunch, has gotten many people to believe things that they shouldn't believe. For an example, when you watch a movie, try to figure out how political that movie may be to scare you in so many ways. For an example, how cops play in movies to break the law in order to enforce the law. Do you see the point I'm leading up to? Would you want your sheriff to break a law in order to enforce a law and to avoid the courts? You have propaganda from advertisements, movies, and of course, the news media. Just try to open your eyes. When you see a post, ask yourself, I wonder why they think like this? Maybe I need to check into this. If we would take more time to learn what we read instead of criticizing it and finding something wrong with it, we could learn so much. But everybody thinks everything is ok. Take a look around. I don't think so.



PBA, please just take a break from all this.

I AM A UNION MEMBER... I KNOW ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH SOME UNIONS..

I don't need this right now... I have worked my fingers to the bone for 27 years, in a formerly known MALE DOMINATED career path, just to have some woman sit there in her glory telling me to get a job.. HELLO!!! I am getting ready to RETIRE ...

The TOPIC of the post is UNION WORKERS ... and the ONLY mind I have on that is the EXPERIENCE of BEING a Union Worker... I stayed on topic, and was very nice, until Bamasunshine decided to put down any woman who worked, had a good job, made good money and belonged to a union...

Here again is a classic case of people TRYING to explain experiences, but others not listening or trying to find ways to attack.

And please don't tell me to open my mind, I did that 27 years ago when I started paying Union Dues.

And if you want to know, or even care about WHY I got upset, go back over all the rude, racist comments that Bamasunshine has made, femininist ones too... then read ALL the comments and tell me her last comment was called for????
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Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
Teggere, Which post are you responding to?


Don't know for sure. I have already admitted to being a stupid Redneck. I am pro union, just love teachers, don't see how they put up with the little shurts all day, and I don't understand why TVA wants to give the public land to private developers. un less they are getting something else out of it. money foe instance. Maybe this will help you understand how I feel about things even if I don't know which post I am answering.
[/quote]I don't understand why TVA wants to give the public land to private developers. un less they are getting something else out of it. money foe instance. [/QUOTE]

It's called economic development. It always has been part of TVA's charter. Some of the land sales are good and some not so good, case in of point of not so good would be Veterans Park for the Bass Pro Shop. A good case in point would be waterfront property for a marina or other commercial enterprise like a paper plant, auto plant, steel plant etc that would employ lots of local people thereby adding tax base and incomes to an area.
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Originally posted by Pitbo$$:
I don't understand why TVA wants to give the public land to private developers. un less they are getting something else out of it. money foe instance. [/QUOTE]

It's called economic development. It always has been part of TVA's charter. Some of the land sales are good and some not so good, case in of point of not so good would be Veterans Park for the Bass Pro Shop. A good case in point would be waterfront property for a marina or other commercial enterprise like a paper plant, auto plant, steel plant etc that would employ lots of local people thereby adding tax base and incomes to an area.[/QUOTE]

And with a paper mill you also get rid of the trees. Makes it easer to see the forest.
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
Talk about this topic going off course... lol

UNIONS BY THE NUMBERS
The Department of Labor has filings on record for over 300 unions in Alabama having a membership of 25 or more.
The largest labor union in Alabama, the U.S. Steelworkers of America, has over 24,000 active members. Rounding out the top five are the United Food & Commercial Workers (10,500), Paper, Allied-Industrial, Chemical & Energy Workers (9,300), Auto Workers (7,100) and the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (7,000).
Total union membership in the state now numbers 195,000, about 10.2% of the workforce (BLS Survey, 2005). Data quoted from the Alabama State Depertment of labor, on www.alalabor.state.al.us/unions.htm
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Originally posted by EdEKit:
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
Talk about this topic going off course... lol

UNIONS BY THE NUMBERS
The Department of Labor has filings on record for over 300 unions in Alabama having a membership of 25 or more.
The largest labor union in Alabama, the U.S. Steelworkers of America, has over 24,000 active members. Rounding out the top five are the United Food & Commercial Workers (10,500), Paper, Allied-Industrial, Chemical & Energy Workers (9,300), Auto Workers (7,100) and the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (7,000).
Total union membership in the state now numbers 195,000, about 10.2% of the workforce (BLS Survey, 2005). Data quoted from the Alabama State Depertment of labor, on www.alalabor.state.al.us/unions.htm


Great info, Ed... maybe now the post will be brought back on TOPIC... hehe
Bamma Shine Take Note again:
After analizing your ignorant responses, and being very outspoken myself I can't help but wonder ??I'll just bet you were one of those a-- H---'s who were out there PROTESTING the WAR in Viet-Nam while I was crawling around in the jungle trying to keep the freedom of expression you so much love alive, and well ?
Well Shine I'll just bet my WHITE COLLAR union Pay check against your's, your a phoney, and a coward, who hid behind your Daddy's shirt tail.
Oh yes, after I returned from Southeast Asia I to got an education in College too(Master's Degree) at Rose Poly in Terre Haute, Indiana in Engineering, and Business management so see I probably know a little about the way How to treat (with respect) the people who worked for me . I paid my way through College (not the G.I. BIll )which I could have easily done (I'll just bet Daddy paid for yours didn't he? (come on Now be Honest )
As far as being in the Marine Corp, it taught me street smart's,toughness and,rudeness too so may I express my apology, and sorrow over the Death of your father (by the way Shine MY FATHER DIED WHILE I WAS FIGHTING FOR YOUR SORRY A--. BITTER? **** right I'm bitter

Semper Fi 333
Renault has started production of the Logan, which will cost from 5,000 euros (6,200 dollars) on up, touted as a budget model for consumers in emerging economies such as China and Russia that conforms to European standards.

Watanabe said that Toyota could slash the price by targetting costs throughout production.

"Everything from design to production methods will be radically changed and we are thinking of a really ultra-low-cost way of designing, using ultra-low-cost materials, even developing new materials if necessary," he said.

The plan would create a new challenge to struggling US automakers.

Toyota is set this year to overtake General Motors as the world's largest automaker.

What will the UAW do now?



http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/22/070122074327.pbtqfqv6.html
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Originally posted by Delldude:
Bamma Shine Take Note again:
After analizing your ignorant responses, and being very outspoken myself I can't help but wonder ??I'll just bet you were one of those a-- H---'s who were out there PROTESTING the WAR in Viet-Nam while I was crawling around in the jungle trying to keep the freedom of expression you so much love alive, and well ?
Well Shine I'll just bet my WHITE COLLAR union Pay check against your's, your a phoney, and a coward, who hid behind your Daddy's shirt tail.
Oh yes, after I returned from Southeast Asia I to got an education in College too(Master's Degree) at Rose Poly in Terre Haute, Indiana in Engineering, and Business management so see I probably know a little about the way How to treat (with respect) the people who worked for me . I paid my way through College (not the G.I. BIll )which I could have easily done (I'll just bet Daddy paid for yours didn't he? (come on Now be Honest )
As far as being in the Marine Corp, it taught me street smart's,toughness and,rudeness too so may I express my apology, and sorrow over the Death of your father (by the way Shine MY FATHER DIED WHILE I WAS FIGHTING FOR YOUR SORRY A--. BITTER? **** right I'm bitter

Semper Fi 333

I STAND INCENSED, AND AND HOPE YOU WILL STAND CORRECTED ON ONE MINOR DETAIL.
"I'll just bet you were one of those a-- H---'s who were out there PROTESTING the WAR in Viet-Nam while I was crawling around in the jungle trying to keep the freedom of expression you so much love alive, and well ?"
BamaShine might have been protesting the war, BUT PAL YOU WERE NEVER TRYING TO KEEP THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION WE SO MUCH LOVE BY DOING THAT CRAWLING AROUND IN THE JUNGLE. That Might be what YOU thought you were doing, BUT IT WAS NOT WHAT YOU WERE DOING. The Vietnam war, and the Iraq war have BOTH THREATENED our freedom of expression MORE THAN THE VIETNAMESE OR THE IRAQIS EVER COULD.
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Originally posted by Delldude:
Bamma Shine Take Note again:
After analizing your ignorant responses, and being very outspoken myself I can't help but wonder ??I'll just bet you were one of those a-- H---'s who were out there PROTESTING the WAR in Viet-Nam while I was crawling around in the jungle trying to keep the freedom of expression you so much love alive, and well ?
Well Shine I'll just bet my WHITE COLLAR union Pay check against your's, your a phoney, and a coward, who hid behind your Daddy's shirt tail.
Oh yes, after I returned from Southeast Asia I to got an education in College too(Master's Degree) at Rose Poly in Terre Haute, Indiana in Engineering, and Business management so see I probably know a little about the way How to treat (with respect) the people who worked for me . I paid my way through College (not the G.I. BIll )which I could have easily done (I'll just bet Daddy paid for yours didn't he? (come on Now be Honest )
As far as being in the Marine Corp, it taught me street smart's,toughness and,rudeness too so may I express my apology, and sorrow over the Death of your father (by the way Shine MY FATHER DIED WHILE I WAS FIGHTING FOR YOUR SORRY A--. BITTER? **** right I'm bitter

Semper Fi 333


Delldude!!! I am in awe about what you just said, .... THANK YOU SO MUCH for that comment, ...

I, a Union Sister, am on YOUR side!!!!!
Dear Dell Dude, If you in fact did serve in the armed forces and did serve in Viet Nam ,I want to thank you for your service. I was not old enough to be in the military during the Viet Nam war. I have the highest respect for military soldiers. I despise war protesters. I remember watching the long hair hippy’s protesting in the 60’s and 70’s. I thought it was awful at the time. My father was a military man. He was stationed in Alaska before he went to Korea.

I was fortunate enough to receive an academic scholarship at the University of Tennessee where my father played football 23 years before. He did not pay one dime toward my education. Unless you count the child support he sent to my mother. I was also a proud participant in Tennessee’s ROTC “ Rocky Top Battalion”. I was commissioned in 1984,

Now as for you ignorant remarks, “your a phoney, and a coward, who hid behind your Daddy's shirt tail.” It seems as though you may be suffering from exposure to Agent Orange or maybe Alzheimer’s disease. If you were indeed do tours in Asia then you must be close to if not the age that people begin to suffer from demincia .

I stand by my statement that Unions, while helping some good workers, keep lazy deadbeats and drug user on the job. All of those thing leads to hire cost and jobs going out of this country.
BamaSundark- what is your problem? You think it makes you look smarter to cut people down? Shame on you for saying what you did to Delldude-just-- shame---on---you!!!
Have you ever even worked in a Union shop? Were do you get your fictional information from? Hollywood? I work in a Union Shop and BY LAW- (Texas is a right to work state too) I have to defend ALL the bargained for unit-whether they are members or not. I don't get to pick & choose who I represent. I represent them ALL.I am an ELECTED UNION OFFICER and I took an oath to do so. But- I can tell you from experience- I have seen deadbeats & drugheads being protected more by management than anyone in the Union.
I have had a few employees with drug problems over the years and I suggested (as their Union rep) that they take a leave of absence-call our employee helpline-and check into a drug treatment center for help if they want to keep their jobs-the rest was up to them- Not only am I their Union rep..half the time I am the resident physicatrist...the employees put their trust in me to help them-in more than just work-related issues- and I do that because they need me...and I take pride in the fact that I help people that need it. I had a case last year that a single mom (3 kids)was having problems with depression and missed too much work and as hard as I fought for her..the Company terminated her. 2 months later her 14 yr old son found her dead. She killed herself. She is one of the reasons I still do what I do. I am not going to let that happen again if I can help it.
I have told the employees that there are some things I can defend & there are some things I can not. I don't defend STUPIDITY and they know that.
There are lazy people at EVERY company- Union or not- so don't say the Union keeps deadbeats on the job- they are just like deadbeat DADS- flying under the radar on a wing & a prayer & sooner or later they will pay for their actions. (every dog has his day)NO OFFENSE MADDOG
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Originally posted by Bama Sunshine:
Dear Dell Dude, If you in fact did serve in the armed forces and did serve in Viet Nam ,I want to thank you for your service. I was not old enough to be in the military during the Viet Nam war. I have the highest respect for military soldiers. I despise war protesters. I remember watching the long hair hippy’s protesting in the 60’s and 70’s. I thought it was awful at the time. My father was a military man. He was stationed in Alaska before he went to Korea.

I was fortunate enough to receive an academic scholarship at the University of Tennessee where my father played football 23 years before. He did not pay one dime toward my education. Unless you count the child support he sent to my mother. I was also a proud participant in Tennessee’s ROTC “ Rocky Top Battalion”. I was commissioned in 1984,

Now as for you ignorant remarks, “your a phoney, and a coward, who hid behind your Daddy's shirt tail.” It seems as though you may be suffering from exposure to Agent Orange or maybe Alzheimer’s disease. If you were indeed do tours in Asia then you must be close to if not the age that people begin to suffer from demincia .

I stand by my statement that Unions, while helping some good workers, keep lazy deadbeats and drug user on the job. All of those thing leads to hire cost and jobs going out of this country.


****For someone so "educated", you just showed how IGNORANT you are!!! What happened, a Union turn you down? Roll Eyes ****
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bama Sunshine:
It seems as though you may be suffering from exposure to Agent Orange or maybe Alzheimer’s disease.
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That's a repulsive thing, to use Agent Orange to sarcastically try and get your opinion across. Last summer while recieving radiation to treat my cancer, I met a very kind veteran who had three different types of cancer from his exposure to Agent Orange. Very admirable and brave man, he was.
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Originally posted by Delldude:
NOTE: you are not my PAL number one.
Number two tell that to the 51,000 that died in VIET-NAM for you, and that other sorry---, and the over 3,000 that have so far died for that fiasco in Iraq.
Now did that HIT YOU BELOW THE BELT TOO?

SEMPER FI, MAC 333


Dont worry about that idiot, Delldude... I suffered through the Vietnam Era with my brother + alot of my friends being drafted left and right. Tears ran daily. Being female, at that time, we wasn't even considered, but believe me, you and my brother, and my friends, and all my co-workers who went to Nam has my heartfelt support and admiration!!!

Only UNEDUCATED IDIOTS hit that far below the belt, and I am sorry he did that! It just was NOT right!!!
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Originally posted by just saying:
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Originally posted by Bama Sunshine:
It seems as though you may be suffering from exposure to Agent Orange or maybe Alzheimer’s disease.


That's a repulsive thing, to use Agent Orange to sarcastically try and get your opinion across. Last summer while recieving radiation to treat my cancer, I met a very kind veteran who had three different types of cancer from his exposure to Agent Orange. Very admirable and brave man, he was.


VERY well said, just-saying!!!
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Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
Renault has started production of the Logan, which will cost from 5,000 euros (6,200 dollars) on up, touted as a budget model for consumers in emerging economies such as China and Russia that conforms to European standards.

Watanabe said that Toyota could slash the price by targetting costs throughout production.

"Everything from design to production methods will be radically changed and we are thinking of a really ultra-low-cost way of designing, using ultra-low-cost materials, even developing new materials if necessary," he said.

The plan would create a new challenge to struggling US automakers.

Toyota is set this year to overtake General Motors as the world's largest automaker.

What will the UAW do now?

All the money ends up in the same pockets. The objective is to destroy all the unions, and people will be snecking into Mexico to find work.



http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/22/070122074327.pbtqfqv6.html
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Originally posted by Teggere:
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Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
Renault has started production of the Logan, which will cost from 5,000 euros (6,200 dollars) on up, touted as a budget model for consumers in emerging economies such as China and Russia that conforms to European standards.

Watanabe said that Toyota could slash the price by targetting costs throughout production.

"Everything from design to production methods will be radically changed and we are thinking of a really ultra-low-cost way of designing, using ultra-low-cost materials, even developing new materials if necessary," he said.

The plan would create a new challenge to struggling US automakers.

Toyota is set this year to overtake General Motors as the world's largest automaker.

What will the UAW do now?

All the money ends up in the same pockets. The objective is to destroy all the unions, and people will be snecking into Mexico to find work.



http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/22/070122074327.pbtqfqv6.html


Okay, we already read all that, now what is YOUR point? Or do you have one? Just wondering... Big Grin

I don't think YOU have even given YOUR opinion on UNION's yet, have you?
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every dog has his day)NO OFFENSE MADDOG

None taken Fleaze, as a matter of fact, proud to get a shout out in a post as intelligently written as yours. There is no need in trying to change anyone's mind that will not listen to reason. I am an active member of a Union, although not employed at the company my union is affiliated with, kind of complicated and won't get into it on this, BUT I think I made the statement earlier either in this thread or another one (oldzheimers ya know) about indoctrination by Republicans against Unions and Big Business trying to brainwash the younger generation of workers. I think this is rampant in the responses all over this board by those who are anti-Union. The ONLY beef I have is the Unions themselves are ALLOWING this to happen. I contacted my union when SEDA paid taxpayer money as an incentive to get the Walgreens Call Center here for half the pay the company was paying at centers in other areas, only to be told by the rep they weren't interested in trying to unionize. Since I wasn't an employee of Walgreen's there wasn't anything I could do, EXCEPT be the thorn in the side I love to be and find some employees who were and let them know of their options. Unfortunately, they were mainly scared kids or second jobbers and just proud to have incomes (can't blame them but still hated to see them abused) And as I have said also, I now work for a company that is vehemently anti-Union, as I have also heard is the New York Times Newspaper Group, a subsidiary of the NYT and owners of the TD, and it makes me sick to sit in on meetings about HOW to prevent organizing. In a way, since I know this job is sort of temporary (another long story) I don't; but I should try to organize, but once again, I fear this area has been brainwashed by the City officials and SEDA for THEIR failures into believing that NO company will consider the Shoals because of it's pro-Union reputation. Big Fat Lies and the lying liars who tell them! THE DOG
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Originally posted by Bama Sunshine:
Unions used to be a good. However now they do more harm than good. Do you like paying $30,000 to 60,000 for a vehicle that is only worth $10,000. You can the union for that. Union workers say by American and then the turn around and shop at Wal-Mart.

Unions also insure that you keep drug user's on the job site. Companies are reluctant to fire drug users because of the union. The union will sue them if they fire a drug user. Unions protect lazy employees also.

Unions are no longer a good thing. They drive up the price of products as well as protect lazy drug heads.

You must have worked w/someone I was once married to? Confused
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
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Originally posted by Delldude:
Bamma shine: Take note: I have never used illegal drugs in my life, and worked in a unionized plant for 31 yrs, and NEVER ONCE saw anyone use drugs (other then prescribed medicines).(we had our fair share of DRUNK's as at any job site)
This Generalizing (on your part) about AMERICAN Union workers being Drugatic's and LAZY is nothing but anti-UNION absolute BULL-S--- rehtoric on your part and is not going to change anyones mind. GO AHEAD Mc.DONALDS, and WALLY WORLD LOVE PEOPLE LIKE YOU.


Sure you and some others maybe the exception. Bama Sunshine is correct in what she said though. I know personally some alcoholics and drug users that brag about getting messed up on the job site. They are union workers, electricians, pipe fitters, and boiler makers.

That is a fact not a generalization. I also know that they have been to arbitration hearings about there drug use. The union help them to keep there jobs after they got caught stealing and getting intoxicated on the job.


Sorry YO, I just don't believe that at all, unless you are talking about a small company who hires a few Union members who KNOW how to do the job.. Otherwise, there ARE ABSOLUTELY NO DRUGS at all on my site, and NO UNION Affiliated with us would EVER uphold a druggie or a pusher... NEVER would, or could that happen... never... and I have been a member of a Union, like I said for 27 years... and counting... Been MANY places, seen MANY FIRED for trying to get away with drugs, and the Union did NOT back them, not one single time.

Drugs have NO place on the jobsite, and there is ZERO tolerance about that where I work... and the ZERO tolerance is definitely been tested and won .... every time!!!!

well,maybe not on your jobsite,but,I am living proof that on numerous jobs,even TVA hydro plants,brothers protect brothers even in drugs.

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