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"If Walgreen Co. moves its HQ to Europe, blame Washington's tax failure

The Swiss cuckoo clock is ticking for Congress and White House to give tax reform more than lip service

 

The Walgreen Co. drugstore chain got its start nearly a century ago in downstate Dixon, Ill., before moving its corporate headquarters to Chicago and eventually to north suburban Deerfield.

Next stop? Could be Bern, Switzerland.

A group of shareholders reportedly is pressuring the giant retail chain for a move to the land of cuckoo clocks. The reason: lower taxes. Much lower taxes:"

 

http://articles.chicagotribune...re-tax-rate-tax-code

 

In another thread, I posted the reasons for this. Progressives, feel free to rant and rave. The world won't care.  We are in a global struggle for jobs and business,

TRUTH -- THE NEW HATE SPEECH!

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I blame them, they want all the rights, benefits and privileges of being American and living in America but don't want to pay for ant of it.  If they want to move, let them move out and stay out.  Don't bring your self of your products back.

 

If people will check, these chain stores are not cheaper on drugs.  I have found small stores match or beat them on a lot of medicines.  

 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

I blame them, they want all the rights, benefits and privileges of being American and living in America but don't want to pay for ant of it.  If they want to move, let them move out and stay out.  Don't bring your self of your products back.

 

If people will check, these chain stores are not cheaper on drugs.  I have found small stores match or beat them on a lot of medicines.  

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By reduction ad absurdum, one must assume you are equally against Mercedes and all those foreigners moving plants and jobs to the US. Shut'em down?

 

Progressives live in an oughtabe world, where consequences of actions are never considered, just feelings and desires.  Check out Venezuela for the results of such ideals. 

 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

This post started about wanting to move TO a foreign land to escape american taxes. I didn't like that.  You twisted that to imply that I am against a foreign company having a plant in america.  I don't believe the foreign company did that to dodge tax in their home land.  

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The foreign companies moved for several reasons, Germany because their worker and energy costs are so high. Japan because of an increasing worker shortage as their population ages without replacement and energy costs. South Korea for a number of the same reasons. However, the principal in all, plus the US companies moving headquarters overseas is that money is fungible. It goes where it feels safe and can grow.

 
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

I blame them, they want all the rights, benefits and privileges of being American and living in America but don't want to pay for ant of it.  If they want to move, let them move out and stay out.  Don't bring your self of your products back.

 

If people will check, these chain stores are not cheaper on drugs.  I have found small stores match or beat them on a lot of medicines.  

 

 

Actually when the shareholders receive dividends or profit from selling the stocks, they pay taxes; so they are paying their way. If I were a stockholder of Walgreen's, I would move the headquarters to limit the double taxation on my investment to fund those who are robbing me to buy power for themselves.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

I blame them, they want all the rights, benefits and privileges of being American and living in America but don't want to pay for ant of it.  If they want to move, let them move out and stay out.  Don't bring your self of your products back.

 

If people will check, these chain stores are not cheaper on drugs.  I have found small stores match or beat them on a lot of medicines.  

 

So you blame the company instead of blaming a system that would incentivize companies to move out of the country? LOL

 

you just can't make this stuff up.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

I blame them, they want all the rights, benefits and privileges of being American and living in America but don't want to pay for ant of it.  If they want to move, let them move out and stay out.  Don't bring your self of your products back.

 

If people will check, these chain stores are not cheaper on drugs.  I have found small stores match or beat them on a lot of medicines.

 

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You are correct, sir.  And those small pharmacies give faster service as a rule.  If you are on Medicare and have the prescription part, the costs are the same whether at Walmart or the home town corner drug store.  At Walmart, you have to line up to submit your prescription.  Then they tell you to come back in 15 minutes to pick it up. You then wait in line to pick it up. 

 They figure you will do 15 minutes of shopping while you wait.  I use Northgate Pharmacy Cloverdale Road.  I call in my prescriptions or my wife's by phone.  Ten minutes later they will be ready and the clerk will see you coming through the door and will almost always have your prescriptions on the counter by the time you get there.  Others tell me of similar experience at other local "mom and pop" pharmacies.  Fie on the big impersonal chains!

 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

What I can't figure is why so many people want to screw the US out of money and business.

 

I wonder why foolish envious people vote for politicians who create a tax code that deincentivizes  growth and prosperity. Cuba, Zimbabwe, and Venezuela may have a larger percentage of people living as equals than in the U.S.; but I don't want to live there.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

What I can't figure is why so many people want to screw the US out of money and business.

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jt, The question you should be asking is why a nation that once prospered and attracted talented people and businesses from all over the world now see those fleeing.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

They want to go where the tax rate is how much??  Answer please (honest answer)

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Switzerland corporate tax rate for income produced in the confederation is progressive up to 8.5 percent.  Like all nations, except the US, they don't tax income outside their nation. Consider the other side of the question -- why didn't companies before -- what has changed to cause this,

Switzerland corporate tax rate for income produced in the confederation is progressive up to 8.5 percent.  Like all nations, except the US, they don't tax income outside their nation. Consider the other side of the question -- why didn't companies before -- what has changed to cause this,

 

Let them move company and CEO's to Switzerland.  Let the company pay the nations tax, and let the CEO's and board of directors pay the nations tax rates

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Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Switzerland corporate tax rate for income produced in the confederation is progressive up to 8.5 percent.  Like all nations, except the US, they don't tax income outside their nation. Consider the other side of the question -- why didn't companies before -- what has changed to cause this,

 

Let them move company and CEO's to Switzerland.  Let the company pay the nations tax, and let the CEO's and board of directors pay the nations tax rates

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The CEO will probably move., board probably not. Unless they give up US citizenship, will still be subject to US income tax less the credit.  Your point is?  Better to do this than fix the mess, I suppose, just keep killing those golden egg laying geese.

 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

What percent of the corporations pay the maximum tax rate?

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Even after I've carefully explained the problem JT appears either completely incapable of understanding it, or is demagoguing it.  

 

Unless the first is true, he knows that many, corporations don't pay the higher tax rates as they are international and can protect their revenue thru US and foreign tax law.  Therefore, the conclusion is probably the latter -- a nasty piece of demagoguery. 

 

What this thread is about is that the other companies, large and small, that do not have overseas operations, are either moving their HQs overseas to take advantage of the lower tax rates, or are arranging to be bought by foreign firms for the same reason.  The result is less revenue to the US for taxes and less employment in the US. 

 

JT, which is it -- invulnerable ignorance or demagogue!

It's not just corporations that can move their base of operations. Over 35 years ago I worked with an engineer who was the product of a marriage between an American diplomat and a British colonial subject. He claimed his mother's citizenship and paid little in taxes. This was during a time when most people with good salaries tried to limit their tax liability with side businesses like hobby farms, rental property, etc. The Bahamian ( I think?) engineer alternated driving to work in a Porsche and a Corvette and lived large while his bosses drove midsize cars and beater farm trucks to work and lived more frugally.

Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

well, in june of 2013, obama tried to lower the corporate tax rate.. the 'grand bargain' was rejected by the regressives. now, here's dire telling you how it's all obama's fault... anybody else see the pattern here?

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Actually, Reid killed the bill in the Senate.

Don't tell crash that. He thinks Harry Reid is perfect and has never done anything wrong.

Alliance Boots moved from the UK to Switzerland in order to lower its tax bill.  Walgreens will relocate from Illinois to Switzerland, undergo a process called "inversion", retain 80% of it's stock and legally become a Swiss corporation.   

Walgreens earns about 72 billion dollars per year and gets about 24 billion dollars of this from medicare and medicaid, which is direct payments from the US government.  They want to send this to Switzerland to dodge about 11 percentage points on tax. 

While doing this, they will remain in the US and enjoy living here while they cheat the US out of taxes earned in the USA.

When they do this, medicare and medicaid should be off limits to them, and any tax breaks they have on those high dollar lots and stores should be cancelled.  After all, they got them as Walgreens and now they are a foreign corporation.  

Progressives travel in such lock step mode, its rather easy to discern their motivations. Check New Republic, if there are doubts.  Conservatives are all over the place, like herding cats.  That's a result of thinking for one self.

 

Straight from Rupert Murdocks talking points.  Let an Austrailian do your thinking and write your speeches.

Why is the right wing so eager to screw the US any time they can?  They remind me of the kid who takes his bat and ball home when it don't go his way.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Alliance Boots moved from the UK to Switzerland in order to lower its tax bill.  Walgreens will relocate from Illinois to Switzerland, undergo a process called "inversion", retain 80% of it's stock and legally become a Swiss corporation.   

Walgreens earns about 72 billion dollars per year and gets about 24 billion dollars of this from medicare and medicaid, which is direct payments from the US government.  They want to send this to Switzerland to dodge about 11 percentage points on tax. 

While doing this, they will remain in the US and enjoy living here while they cheat the US out of taxes earned in the USA.

When they do this, medicare and medicaid should be off limits to them, and any tax breaks they have on those high dollar lots and stores should be cancelled.  After all, they got them as Walgreens and now they are a foreign corporation.  

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If, medicare/medicaid is such a major portion of their business, thatprobably means they offer a better price. JT has no problem jacking up the costs, I suppose. Love the term cheating the US out of taxes.  Why did the government cause the situation in the first place. 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Progressives travel in such lock step mode, its rather easy to discern their motivations. Check New Republic, if there are doubts.  Conservatives are all over the place, like herding cats.  That's a result of thinking for one self.

 

Straight from Rupert Murdocks talking points.  Let an Austrailian do your thinking and write your speeches.

Why is the right wing so eager to screw the US any time they can?  They remind me of the kid who takes his bat and ball home when it don't go his way.

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JT proves my point about lock step lefties. Murdoch is their bete noir.  He brings out the hata in them at full bristle. However, if the lefties were truly acquainted with conservatives, they'd know that Murdoch is on the outs with many conservatives,  Murdoch is for very lenient immigration (national chamber of commerce), whereas most conservatives aren't. Like I stated, herding cats.  Far from screwing the US, we see the left's work overseas --Spain Portugal, Greece, France and Venezuela and don't wish a similar fate.  We see the UK going from sick man of Europe to good times, then back to the left and a slow decline.  .

 

The left is akin to the kid who doesn't get his way and steals the bat, ball and glove.

 

While doing this, they will remain in the US and enjoy living here while they cheat the US out of taxes earned in the USA.

 

Jt, when dividends are paid to U.S. citizens or they sell their stocks and profit, our goobermint profits as do foreign governments when their citizens profit from Walgreen's. The big difference is with the increase in dividends to the shareholder, they wll pay more than they did before. 

 

Jt, considering what day it is, did you by chance forget the biggest reason for the Declaration of Independence? Mebbe you and King Barry need to get a History refresher.

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Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Alliance Boots moved from the UK to Switzerland in order to lower its tax bill.  Walgreens will relocate from Illinois to Switzerland, undergo a process called "inversion", retain 80% of it's stock and legally become a Swiss corporation.   

Walgreens earns about 72 billion dollars per year and gets about 24 billion dollars of this from medicare and medicaid, which is direct payments from the US government.  They want to send this to Switzerland to dodge about 11 percentage points on tax. 

While doing this, they will remain in the US and enjoy living here while they cheat the US out of taxes earned in the USA.

When they do this, medicare and medicaid should be off limits to them, and any tax breaks they have on those high dollar lots and stores should be cancelled.  After all, they got them as Walgreens and now they are a foreign corporation.  

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By what authority could the government ban persons obtaining goods for medicare?  Only Part A is direct payments from the government.  Walgreens provides Part B and D goods and services.  Parts B and D are paid solely by the user.  I suppose the Government could ban medicaid at Walgreens as its a welfare program. 

 

In 2013, Walgreens earned $72.228 billion with an after expenses (including taxes) net income of $2.456 billion (2.5 percent).  They paid taxes of $1.45 billion on that profit or over 37 percent of their before tax profits to government. As a reminder, their taxes and expenses will rise because of Obamacare.  Guess government won't be satisfied until its 100 percent of profits.  

 

As even congress may not change contracts per the constitution, what authority will Obama end  "any tax breaks they have on those high dollar lots and stores should be cancelled."  Are you advocating an abrogation and end of the constitution?  Those tax breaks were mainly to the benefit of local and state governments.  Why should the federal government even be involved. 

 

So, will you next be advocating suspension of elections and civil rights protected by the constitution.  Its just a small step from your present position. 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Alliance Boots moved from the UK to Switzerland in order to lower its tax bill.  Walgreens will relocate from Illinois to Switzerland, undergo a process called "inversion", retain 80% of it's stock and legally become a Swiss corporation.   

Walgreens earns about 72 billion dollars per year and gets about 24 billion dollars of this from medicare and medicaid, which is direct payments from the US government.  They want to send this to Switzerland to dodge about 11 percentage points on tax. 

While doing this, they will remain in the US and enjoy living here while they cheat the US out of taxes earned in the USA.

When they do this, medicare and medicaid should be off limits to them, and any tax breaks they have on those high dollar lots and stores should be cancelled.  After all, they got them as Walgreens and now they are a foreign corporation.  

LOLOLOLOL.

 

WOW!

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