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WASHINGTON — Whoa, fellow citizens. Before we start demanding the United States send thousands of young women and men to die in the Middle East again, let’s think this through.

As former Secretary of State Colin Powell famously said: Don’t go to war unless you know how it will end.

 

Yes, after the terrorist attacks in Paris and elsewhere, we are all angry, frustrated and frightened by the brutality and inhumanity of the Islamic State, which sprang up after we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan (although 9/11 was carried out by Saudis), fueling a fierce hatred of America and, now, anyone who stands in their way. The Islamic State kills without compunction or distinction — Muslims, Christians, Jews, men, women, children. They torture and rape. They rank with the most evil people who have ever inhabited the Earth. They are destroyers of civilization, both remnants of the past and present icons of it.

But we just went through the longest war in our history and what did we gain? Nothing. We lost thousands of lives, thousands more sustained life-altering injuries, and we spent enormous sums of money. Some think we pulled out too soon. Too soon? After more than a decade? People who make this case basically are saying we should have become an occupying army for years and continued ignoring our problems at home.

Middle of a fight

Putting our soldiers on the ground in Syria would put them in the middle of the fight between Syrian government forces led by a brutal dictator and the Islamic State, which is a malevolent virus spreading across the Middle East. And we would be there for years. Putting American soldiers in Syria and back in Iraq is exactly what the Islamic State wants: It will capture and behead as many as possible and use the American presence to recruit more unemployed, angry, disaffected young people to expand its ranks from the tens of thousands the Islamic State has now.

Do the more-boots-on-the-ground advocates not know Congress cut our armed forces by 40,000, and after more than a decade of war, our armed forces must rebuild? Do they not understand you must have infrastructure for thousands of troops — shelter, food, ammunition, fuel, transportation, medics. It is very expensive; it is not done overnight.

Those who say we have done nothing to fight the Islamic State are wrong. Certainly, the pilots who have flown 8,000 hazardous missions over Syria and Iraq don’t think this is a do-nothing stage in the effort to “degrade and destroy” the Islamic State. President Barack Obama is pleading for our patience: “The (multi-pronged) strategy that we are putting forward is the strategy that ultimately is going to work.” Diplomatic talks in Vienna are progressing on ousting Bashar Assad from Syria and stabilizing the country, key to destroying the Islamic State. The U.S. can’t defeat the Islamic State alone.

But we are in an election season, and the administration is bombarded by unending assaults by Republicans running for the White House on the president’s intelligence, commitment, patriotism — everything he does or says. And the language they use is strident, bombastic and often ill-considered. Half the country thinks this president can’t do anything right and will criticize him no matter what he does.

We don’t know how to have polite discourse any longer, so we can’t even seem to discuss the awesome and awful prospect of going full-out to war rationally.

Let us not destroy our values out of fear.

 

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lots of sense in this article 
 
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Originally Posted by Stanky:
Originally Posted by budsfarm:
Originally Posted by Stanky:
Originally Posted by direstraits:

ISIS delenda est. 

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Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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9mm parabellum

 

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To make folks mo' peaceful, .45 buttstompum mo' better.

 

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Fo  s*h*i*z*zle!

 

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Originally Posted by direstraits:

FYI, both the 9mm parabellum and .45 caliber auto calibers were invented in the US.  The Colt 1911 was invented to stop drugged up Muslims in a religious frenzy -- the Moros.  They would take all six rounds from a .38 and still cut your head off.

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I believe there was a .45 Luger present in the 1909 pistol trials. The Colt New Service won but the US wanted to have an auto so they offered Savage, Luger, and Colt an opportunity to tinker with their designs and another chance to pass the dust, rust, and endurance tests later. The German Empire thought it a bad idea for the US to use a German weapon, so Luger didn't submit any later weapons. I might note that all three failed autos surpassed and went further in the tests than the always popular S&W revolver.

Last edited by Stanky
Originally Posted by Stanky:
Originally Posted by direstraits:

FYI, both the 9mm parabellum and .45 caliber auto calibers were invented in the US.  The Colt 1911 was invented to stop drugged up Muslims in a religious frenzy -- the Moros.  They would take all six rounds from a .38 and still cut your head off.

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I believe there was a .45 Luger present in the 1909 pistol trials. The Colt New Service won but the US wanted to have an auto so they offered Savage, Luger, and Colt an opportunity to tinker with their designs and another chance to pass the dust, rust, and endurance tests later. The German Empire thought it a bad idea for the US to use a German weapon, so Luger didn't submit any later weapons. I might note that all three failed autos surpassed and went further in the tests than the always popular S&W revolver.

 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9%C3%9719mm_Parabellum

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Luger

 

Originally Posted by budsfarm:
Originally Posted by Stanky:
Originally Posted by direstraits:

FYI, both the 9mm parabellum and .45 caliber auto calibers were invented in the US.  The Colt 1911 was invented to stop drugged up Muslims in a religious frenzy -- the Moros.  They would take all six rounds from a .38 and still cut your head off.

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I believe there was a .45 Luger present in the 1909 pistol trials. The Colt New Service won but the US wanted to have an auto so they offered Savage, Luger, and Colt an opportunity to tinker with their designs and another chance to pass the dust, rust, and endurance tests later. The German Empire thought it a bad idea for the US to use a German weapon, so Luger didn't submit any later weapons. I might note that all three failed autos surpassed and went further in the tests than the always popular S&W revolver.

 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9%C3%9719mm_Parabellum

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Luger

 

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Mo' better Luger:

http://www.lugerforum.com/45luger.html

Originally Posted by Jack Flash:
Originally Posted by budsfarm:

 

 

That's an odd looking trigger.

 

I would think the length and shape would more likely prevent pinching

the finger between the trigger guard. Especially for smaller fingers of

women if the trigger were to be shorter and more straighter.

The design looks perfect to me.

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Toggle tops have an elegant design and are fun to shoot.  However, if I must carry a 9mm German issue, I'd take the Walther P-38 -- inelegant design, but dangerous looking.  It can handle even the higher powered rounds designed for submachine guns, rather than pistols.

 

 

Originally Posted by Jack Flash:
Originally Posted by budsfarm:

 

 

That's an odd looking trigger.

 

I would think the length and shape would more likely prevent pinching

the finger between the trigger guard. Especially for smaller fingers of

women if the trigger were to be shorter and more straighter.

The design looks perfect to me.

 

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Obviously the trigger was so far ahead of its time, no modern handgun has yet to duplicate its design.

 

Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Jack Flash:
Originally Posted by budsfarm:

 

 

That's an odd looking trigger.

 

I would think the length and shape would more likely prevent pinching

the finger between the trigger guard. Especially for smaller fingers of

women if the trigger were to be shorter and more straighter.

The design looks perfect to me.

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Toggle tops have an elegant design and are fun to shoot.  However, if I must carry a 9mm German issue, I'd take the Walther P-38 -- inelegant design, but dangerous looking.  It can handle even the higher powered rounds designed for submachine guns, rather than pistols.

 

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The 9mm Browning HP was also German issue, but not German design. Allies used them as well.  The double stack 13 round magazine capacity of the single action P-35 versus the double-action single stack 8 rounds of the P-38.

 

'Course now-a-days we have it both ways in an American issued, Italian designed 15 round double stack, double action Beretta M-9.

 

Last edited by budsfarm
Originally Posted by budsfarm:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Jack Flash:
Originally Posted by budsfarm:

 

 

That's an odd looking trigger.

 

I would think the length and shape would more likely prevent pinching

the finger between the trigger guard. Especially for smaller fingers of

women if the trigger were to be shorter and more straighter.

The design looks perfect to me.

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Toggle tops have an elegant design and are fun to shoot.  However, if I must carry a 9mm German issue, I'd take the Walther P-38 -- inelegant design, but dangerous looking.  It can handle even the higher powered rounds designed for submachine guns, rather than pistols.

 

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The 9mm Browning HP was also German issue, but not German design. Allies used them as well.  The double stack 13 round magazine capacity of the single action P-35 versus the double-action single stack 8 rounds of the P-38.

 

'Course now-a-days we have it both ways in an American issued, Italian designed 15 round double stack, double action Beretta M-9.

 

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And the Beretta has the same bassackwards safety and locking block of the P-38. Overall not too bad of a design; just don't over lube cast bullets, use flammable dirt (Unique), shoot on a very cold day, and then engage in a long discussion while the thin gloved fingers thaw. The locking block glued up solid.

 

As to the P-38 and hot loaded ammo, the Wehrmacht issued Lugers to troops with MP-38's and MP-40's. The submachine gun loadings used sintered iron core bullets at higher pressures which is why many trophy Lugers are hard to get to shoot well. The bores were shot out and commercial ammo doesn't have the oomph to operate the action.

 

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And the Beretta has the same bassackwards safety and locking block of the P-38.

 

True.  They can't be both safety and hammer lowering device.  Some opposites do not attract.

 

Which is why I followed Col. Cooper's advice.  He said if he had to carry a 9mm, it would be a CZ-75, a composite of all the desired features of the top of the line 9mms - from Browning, to Walther, to Sig.  Rather than have a hammer lowering device, it has as a safety that allows it to be carried Condition 1 or DA.  Mine was imported through Canada, the US not having trade relations with the Czechs at the time.

 

Unconfirmed rumors say at the time it was designed for the Spetnaz.  Makes sense you'd find more ammo of your enemy's behind the lines of your enemy than you would find of yours.

 

I carried either the 1911, or M-9 or the CZ throughout my careers, depending on the jurisdiction.  Now I carry either/or depending on my mood.

 

All my bullet casting [wheelweights] was limited to sub-sonic revolver rounds for plinking/target, my experience being anything faster leaded the bore badly.  Gas checks helped, but not much.  Gawd forbid should you ever shoot them in a micro-groove Marlin rifle.

 

Read somewhere that the 9mm ammo with iron core had black tips.  The Notsee's substituted iron for lead to conserve the supply of lead.  Not saying that didn't cause barrel erosion, but if the Germans used fulminate of mercury, that may have had more to do with it.  I've got some .30-06 WWII fm primed ammo that will absolutely corrode a untended barrel overnight.  I suppose the use of it led to chrome lined bores in Soviet bloc guns before the M-16.  

Originally Posted by budsfarm:

 

 

And the Beretta has the same bassackwards safety and locking block of the P-38.

 

True.  They can't be both safety and hammer lowering device.  Some opposites do not attract.

 

Which is why I followed Col. Cooper's advice.  He said if he had to carry a 9mm, it would be a CZ-75, a composite of all the desired features of the top of the line 9mms - from Browning, to Walther, to Sig.  Rather than have a hammer lowering device, it has as a safety that allows it to be carried Condition 1 or DA.  Mine was imported through Canada, the US not having trade relations with the Czechs at the time.

 

Unconfirmed rumors say at the time it was designed for the Spetnaz.  Makes sense you'd find more ammo of your enemy's behind the lines of your enemy than you would find of yours.

 

I carried either the 1911, or M-9 or the CZ throughout my careers, depending on the jurisdiction.  Now I carry either/or depending on my mood.

 

All my bullet casting [wheelweights] was limited to sub-sonic revolver rounds for plinking/target, my experience being anything faster leaded the bore badly.  Gas checks helped, but not much.  Gawd forbid should you ever shoot them in a micro-groove Marlin rifle.

 

Read somewhere that the 9mm ammo with iron core had black tips.  The Notsee's substituted iron for lead to conserve the supply of lead.  Not saying that didn't cause barrel erosion, but if the Germans used fulminate of mercury, that may have had more to do with it.  I've got some .30-06 WWII fm primed ammo that will absolutely corrode a untended barrel overnight.  I suppose the use of it led to chrome lined bores in Soviet bloc guns before the M-16.  

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I've had better luck than you with cast bullets. It's kind of a  Goldilocks dilemma. The bullet diameter should fit or be slightly larger than the bore, fill the the leade or throat of the chamber completely, be not too hard or too soft, and the lube must do its job of sealing the hot gases from blowing by the bullet causing gas cutting from beginning to end of the barrel. Most 9mm pistols don't have the nominal 0.355 in. bore. More often than not they aren't 9mm Lugers; usually they are .357 Parabellum's or .358 NATO's. I believe Sigs and your CZ are said to be more likely to have that O.355" bore though.

 

I have a more recent CZ pistol, a .40 S&W with a "B" after the 75. It's a target quality service weapon; especially if I refrain from using out of round previously Glocked brass.

 

 

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Thanks.  That sounds like the solution and from what I've read/heard, lots of others could follow your advice.  Like I said, I had that speed/lead problem in .357 and 44 Mag as well.  I was using a Lyman sizer/lubricator but I can't remember the sizer # for the 9mm.  I gave up on reloading them when 9mm became plentiful through my workplace.

 

What lead are you casting - rolling your own mixture, wheelweights, or . . .?

 

Last edited by budsfarm
Originally Posted by budsfarm:

 

 

Thanks.  That sounds like the solution and from what I've read/heard, lots of others could follow your advice.  I was using a Lyman sizer/lubricator but I can't remember the sizer # for the 9mm.  I gave up on reloading them when 9mm became plentiful through my workplace.

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Lots of times it's best to let the weapon do the sizing, squeezing two to three thousandth's out of a lead cylinder actually doesn't raise pressures that much, just make a dummy cartridge and check if it will chamber. For sidearm usage, simply tumbling unsized bullets with Johnson's paste wax will often suffice.

 

The lead composition is variable, often using a Antimony lite mixture for low pressure .38's is best while wheel weights or equivalent are a good base to start with. The very low Arsenic content makes wheel weights capable of heat treatment. Heating to around 450 degrees F and a quick bath can yield rifle quality hardness.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miKeCJ2X6zs

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEFuccoGmuo

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Thanks again.

 

Here's a article that addresses low pressure leading albeit a unique circumstance with .38 HBWC.  The kind of leading I experienced as mentioned in the article had to do more with leading the angle where lands meet grooves.  A bit of exaggeration, but I felt like I was soon going to have a smoothbore.  But I wasn't kidding about lead bullets in Marlin microgroove.

 

But what I got as the main point was what you're saying about bore/bullet diameter.  And I can see that is more critical in a semi-auto.

 

The absolute worse case of leading I've ever experienced was .22lr lead gumming up the floating chamber in a Colt .22 Ace.

 

http://www.shootingtimes.com/a...downleadfoul_201002/

 

I monitored my melting temp carefully including pre-heating the molds.  Even taken to weighing 240 gr. to lessen the possibility of voids.

 

Anyhow, you've inspired me to "some day" dragging my stuff that's been packed away for a decade or more, update the reloading/handloading manuals, and have another go at it.  Do they still make Bullseye and Unique? 

Originally Posted by budsfarm:

 

 

Thanks again.

 

Here's a article that addresses low pressure leading albeit a unique circumstance with .38 HBWC.  The kind of leading I experienced as mentioned in the article had to do more with leading the angle where lands meet grooves.  A bit of exaggeration, but I felt like I was soon going to have a smoothbore.  But I wasn't kidding about lead bullets in Marlin microgroove.

 

But what I got as the main point was what you're saying about bore/bullet diameter.  And I can see that is more critical in a semi-auto.

 

The absolute worse case of leading I've ever experienced was .22lr lead gumming up the floating chamber in a Colt .22 Ace.

 

http://www.shootingtimes.com/a...downleadfoul_201002/

 

I monitored my melting temp carefully including pre-heating the molds.  Even taken to weighing 240 gr. to lessen the possibility of voids.

 

Anyhow, you've inspired me to "some day" dragging my stuff that's been packed away for a decade or more, update the reloading/handloading manuals, and have another go at it.  Do they still make Bullseye and Unique? 

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Yep, Bullseye and Unique still exist and still mostly good choices. Only thing about Unique I have had trouble with is sometimes an unburned flake or two will find a tight spot on a DA revolver and bind up things, necessitating a timeout. Great in SA revolvers and service autos though. Great stuff in large cases of low pressure rounds (.45 Colt, etc.) where a low density bulky powder helps. Only downside is some powder measures can have problems dropping consistent charges, my Lyman 55's knocker gets thumb-flicked a lot using Unique. Hodgdon HS-6 is a good substitute for cast bullets and meters much easier.

 

 

Originally Posted by budsfarm:

 

All I've ever used [when I used] in revolvers was mostly Bullseye [.38], Unique [.357], and 2400 [.44 mag].  Never had the flaking problem except with metering.  But then . . . guess my time to be lucky after 10'sK rounds.

 

When you cast, are you using a gang mold?

 

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My molds just drop two at a time, it seems I only cast when I have plenty of time to kill.

 

I've used Unique in a M-28, a M-19, and a Security Six. Time outs with all three. The autos and SA revolvers can be gritty and grimy from flammable dirt and not miss a beat. I did find that using a hotter primer than CCI standard primers lessens the occurrence though. I actually have had better results with the slightly slower Herco. For a less pounding load with a .44mag, 10.5-11.5 gr. with a 240gr. bullet seems to shoot small groups in my weapon and would probably handle anything in Alabama with the exception of some critters at the Birmingham zoo.

 

 

Like a buddy of mine is fond of saying "D the luck."  I'm not exaggerating nor have I heard of that problem before.  You are beset by devils.  My 1960s something S&W M19 hums right along with a steady diet of SWC and Unique and nary a hiccup.  Or did till I put it into semiretirement.

 

The one problem I know of I have a picture of that may have been attributed to Unique was when this fella substituted and compressed something other than 2400 in a .44 Mag case.  It blew up a chamber in a S&W M-29 6 whatever ".  It blew off the topstrap.  And sympathetic detonation blew out chambers to the immediate left and right.  Half the cylinder was gone.  Or is gone as depicted in the photo.  The frame has ripple lines in it.

 

That;s when you call time out quickly before someone beats you to it.

 

I haven't cast handgun bullets in a good 3 decades.  Haven't shot up what I have.  But I did have one gang role.  Pretty sure it was for a .38/.357 SWC. a Keith design.  Anyhow, once I got the tep up, whether using the rail below the spigot at the bottom of the pot or hand dipping from the top, it ran true.  Once it would settle on what temp it liked, it was rock and roll.

 

But the cutting the sprues became another matter.  Talk about it's gonna take a bigger stick. It mattered enough I preferred 2 holes than 4.

 

Most difficult single bullet I ever case was the hollow base ,58 Minie.  Talking about voids showing up.  I would like to have tried a Whitworth, but than mold alone cost more than some decent guns

 

Lubing bullets by tumbling in auto wax.  Thought I'd seen and heard it all

 

 

Originally Posted by budsfarm:

 

 

Like a buddy of mine is fond of saying "D the luck."  I'm not exaggerating nor have I heard of that problem before.  You are beset by devils.  My 1960s something S&W M19 hums right along with a steady diet of SWC and Unique and nary a hiccup.  Or did till I put it into semiretirement.

 

The one problem I know of I have a picture of that may have been attributed to Unique was when this fella substituted and compressed something other than 2400 in a .44 Mag case.  It blew up a chamber in a S&W M-29 6 whatever ".  It blew off the topstrap.  And sympathetic detonation blew out chambers to the immediate left and right.  Half the cylinder was gone.  Or is gone as depicted in the photo.  The frame has ripple lines in it.

 

That;s when you call time out quickly before someone beats you to it.

 

I haven't cast handgun bullets in a good 3 decades.  Haven't shot up what I have.  But I did have one gang role.  Pretty sure it was for a .38/.357 SWC. a Keith design.  Anyhow, once I got the tep up, whether using the rail below the spigot at the bottom of the pot or hand dipping from the top, it ran true.  Once it would settle on what temp it liked, it was rock and roll.

 

But the cutting the sprues became another matter.  Talk about it's gonna take a bigger stick. It mattered enough I preferred 2 holes than 4.

 

Most difficult single bullet I ever case was the hollow base ,58 Minie.  Talking about voids showing up.  I would like to have tried a Whitworth, but than mold alone cost more than some decent guns

 

Lubing bullets by tumbling in auto wax.  Thought I'd seen and heard it all

 

 

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Well sometimes bad luck rhymes I guess. It is a strange thing to pull the trigger with no bang or click and then seeing the hammer about midway down because a few partially burned flakes wedged the hammer.That and other problems were quickly cured by a little wiping or picking.To be fair, I had the same thing happen with both Remington and Federal factory .357 mag loads on the first cylinder full. No real problem, there are other powders that get you back to six shots sure.

 

The .44 load I quoted was for Herco, although the weights listed are about the same for Unique. As you noted about the big bang, some shotgun powders can get a little pressure spikey when they are compressed, but I bet it wasn't Unique that launched the M-29 into orbit. 2400 is fine grained and Unique is big flakes, so I bet a case full of Bullseye was more likely the problem. I can't think of any sidearm that can handle 200,000 plus psi.

 

I have used someone else's gang mold 40 years ago and I didn't have the benefit of a mold guide. It got a little tiring. I guess I used a big enough stick or I just don't remember the sprue plate being a problem.

 

Also the Johnson's paste wax is usually used for hardwood floors. I think some of the fast use car waxes actually have some abrasives. Anyway, it seems to work as bullet lube as well. It can be mixed with liquid alox to make it more better or you can buy the mixture of both here: http://lsstuff.com/store/index...6d7cd38d3eb1a4ac1f54

 

If you buy commercial cast bullets or swaged lead bullets, sometimes the lubes they use really don't work that well, so sometimes a little tumble lube can save a bad investment.

 

 

May well have been Bullseye.  Wouldn't surprise me a all.

 

Some of that bullet lube on commercial cast/swaged looked like talcum powder.  The others lubed like the .22s of the 1950s.

 

I use[d] a 1970s Lyman 450.  It puts lube, under pressure, only in the groves as it sized the bullet.

 

I did try lubing .58 minies by standing them up on a cookie sheet, melting lube around them, and removing them with a "cookie cutter" kind of tool.  It was messy.  I think I answered the question nobody asked.  "Why would anyone want to?"

 

I do have a mold guide on the furnace.  But all things considered, I'd just as soon use a double-cavity and forego the guide.  I remember consistently getting better bullets out of the double than the gang, but that's just me.  I've got a couple of aluminum molds [Lee?], I think maybe for blackpowder but I can't remember other than being lighter and cooling down quicker how the quality of the bullets compared to steel.

 

I've never loaded shot shells.

 

40 years.  That puts us in the same decade. 

 

Originally Posted by budsfarm:

 

 

May well have been Bullseye.  Wouldn't surprise me a all.

 

Some of that bullet lube on commercial cast/swaged looked like talcum powder.  The others lubed like the .22s of the 1950s.

 

I use[d] a 1970s Lyman 450.  It puts lube, under pressure, only in the groves as it sized the bullet.

 

I did try lubing .58 minies by standing them up on a cookie sheet, melting lube around them, and removing them with a "cookie cutter" kind of tool.  It was messy.  I think I answered the question nobody asked.  "Why would anyone want to?"

 

I do have a mold guide on the furnace.  But all things considered, I'd just as soon use a double-cavity and forego the guide.  I remember consistently getting better bullets out of the double than the gang, but that's just me.  I've got a couple of aluminum molds [Lee?], I think maybe for blackpowder but I can't remember other than being lighter and cooling down quicker how the quality of the bullets compared to steel.

 

I've never loaded shot shells.

 

40 years.  That puts us in the same decade. 

 

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It seems that most folks consider anyone 10-15 years or more older than them as old folks. I guess we'll remain childlike (or childish as my wife says) and keep on learning new stuff until we run out of folks older than us.

 

Never reloaded shot shells either, and Lee molds seem to work and are lighter. I wouldn't hammer on them too much though because they're aluminum. They do heat up faster than Lyman cast iron but they also cool off faster as well.

 

 

I guess we'll remain childlike (or childish as my wife says) and keep on learning new stuff until we run out of folks older than us

 

Your wife is on to something.  My mother is about 6 month's shy of 100.  Last gun I bought was made when she was 9,  Ithaca youth model 20ga. SxS bored improved modified-full and in very good condition.  Going to give the swampers a fit.

 

You can tell you're getting old when all of your toys are antiques.  And wish you would've saved them.

 

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