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Originally posted by vplee123:
By the way, I believe in PEOPLE, Bill. And their ability to educate and make informed decisions. I respect everyone's decision to choose their own path. And if Dwight is led by the Holy Spirit, and believes in the deity of Jesus Christ, who the heck am I to say he is wrong?
Hi VP,
Just a suggestion -- try believing in JESUS CHRIST. You say Dwight is led by the Holy Spirit and believes in the deity of Jesus Christ. You could not be further from the truth. The Mormon church -- both the Salt Lake City group and the Missouri group DO NOT believe in the deity of Jesus Christ.
The Jesus Christ of the Mormon church is a created being, fathered by their god. Their Jesus Christ is the spirit brother of Lucifer/Satan. This comes directly from the highest sources in the Mormon church -- their presidents -- starting with Joseph Smith. They do not believe in the deity of Jesus Christ; they
do not believe John 1:1-5.
And, they do not believe in the same God that we worship. From the Mormon book,
"History of the Church" - vol 6, pages 308, 474 and written by none other than their founder, Joseph Smith:
"In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people in it. . . In all congregations when I have preached on the subject of the Deity, it has been the plurality of Gods." From the same book, vol 6, page 305:
"God himself was one as we are now, and is an exalted man. . . I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form. . . like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man. . . He was once a man like us, yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on earth." From the Mormon book,
"Mormon Doctrine" -- pages 547, 742, by Bruce R. McConkle:
"Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers. . .Christ was born into the world as the literal Son of this Holy Being; He was born in the same personal, real, and literal sense that any mortal son is born to a mortal father." In other words, Mr. McConkle is teaching in the
"Mormon Doctrine" that God actually had physical sex with Mary and that is how Jesus was conceived. Keep in mind that
the Mormons teach that god was and is a man, an exalted man. So,
they teach that this man had sex with Mary and conceived Jesus. The Mormons teach that Mary was in no way a virgin when Jesus was conceived and born.
And, in their
"Journal of Discourses" one of their major books, vol 2, page 82, written by Orson Hyde, Apostle, they teach:
"Jesus was the bridegroom at the wedding of Cana of Galilee. We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into relation whereby he could see his seed." Gee, I wonder where Dan Brown got his ideas of Jesus Christ being married and having children for his book
"The DaVinci Code"?
VP, do you still believe the Mormons see Jesus Christ as deity? NO, they do not. They worship another god and another Jesus -- not the God and the Jesus Christ, preexisting deities, of the Bible.
And, let me just point out one fact. In the last few days, I have written these same statements in numerous discussions on the Religion Forum -- and Dwight has
not once refuted what I have written. Why? Because he knows it is the truth.
I will give credit to Dwight for one thing. He has given us a good opportunity to educate all our Forum Friends about the false teachings of the cult church of Mormonism. I would not have written about Mormonism -- if Dwight had not come on the Religion Forum pushing his false religion. But, now that he has opened the floodgates -- we can all learn the truth about the Mormon church. Thank you, Dwight, for this opportunity.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill